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Captain Peabody
United States3140 Posts
I'm really rooting for Nony to take it, but either way, it's gonna be awesome.  Go Nony!Other than that, Gosi[terran] has showed a lot of promise, so I hope he moves on as well. And I'll definitely be rooting for ret to take down his opponent. Ditto for Mondragon. No predictions, though. It'll all be decided soon... MAY THE BEST NERD WIN! | ||
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SUSUGAM
United States177 Posts
I don't know who is recording as spectator (I guess Carnac?), but it is not something you can half ass in a tournament this big. It really makes me appreciate how great the Korean spectators are. They so rarely miss anything major. They remember to watch the minimap, as it seems our TSL spectator isn't doing. Sorry if this is insulting, but come on. Is it too much to ask to have the screen move to where the giant blue minimap blob is going? To see the shuttle drop zealot bombs? If nothing else, let us see what the commentators are seeing, so we don't have to listen to them talk about crap we can't even see. Game 3 of White-Ra vs TT1 is a brilliant example of this. The entire game is really poorly done. The spectator sees a shuttle with reavers die, the commentators miss it. The commentators are screaming at other moments, as the spectator sits the screen on nothing, and then whips around as though trying to find what's going on. Half the time, the commentators are so busy going on in a monologue about some irrelevant nonsense. They seem too focused on talking to COMMENTATE THE GAME. This reflects badly on the entire tournament. It would be nice to have the second half of this TSL be presented to the fans how it is meant to be presented. This tournament is great, but it's being tarnished with poor delivery. I'm sorry if this is ignorant bullshit. I am merely a fan. This is what I've observed. I love watching starcraft. I've been deeply into the scene (as a fan) for years. If the commentators and spectator are doing all of this for free, then I can't blame anyone, and it's just too bad. But if they are being compensated somehow, I feel sorry for PokerStrategy.com for the return. Artosis is great at post-game analysis and his knowledge of the game is very good, but I think he rambles on too much during the games rather than delivering the game play to the viewer. (which Tasteless has always been great at) Tasteless will immediately stop what he's saying when the action starts. Artosis seems to have trouble doing this. It really seems like Nick is trying to just be polite and wait for Artosis to finish his monologues half the time. Hopefully I won't get banned for speaking up. Wouldn't surprise me though. I'm just an ungrateful netizen douchebag anyway, I suppose. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
And man, ret, bro keep getting the zvz's. But the road to greatness is never easy. | ||
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b0ng
Czech Republic82 Posts
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
Has no other progamer ever used that strategy of taking the bottom left expansion on destination? Seems pretty crazy if mondi has come up with something like that, but no other progamer has done? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 08 2010 20:46 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. Has no other progamer ever used that strategy of taking the bottom left expansion on destination? Seems pretty crazy if mondi has come up with something like that, but no other progamer has done? jaedong vs firebathero BTW, Chill and Day[9] are a LOT better duo than Tasteless + Artosis, at least here. Artosis is great but tasteless is quite bleh imo. Artosis + Chill might be nice, letting the brothers commentate together, but I think tasteless would somehow ruin Day[9]'s commentary, too. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On February 08 2010 21:08 PredY wrote: has the schedule been decided yet? This. I hope the shedule will be PvP + TvZ one day and PvT + ZvZ the other day so we can see all three races each day. | ||
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win8282
Korea (South)454 Posts
As for Nony v Idra, Nony will pown idra! Do it for Auir! White-Ra vs JF is also another amazing match. A pvp between the two of the three best foreign protosses! | ||
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Chillz
Canada100 Posts
I agree with you on most of the things you said. However, it seems to me that Tasteless, who is usually quite good, has been much worse than normal throughout this TSL and particularly bad in this past weekend's matches. It sounded to like Tasteless was uninterested, tired, and half hungover or drunk to me. He was screwing up a lot of the things he was saying and it felt like Artosis had to cover for him and wait for him to stop babbling before he could step in and try to save the commentary. I could count so many times that something big was going on and Tasteless was just rambling about something for several minutes and by the time it was Artosis' turn to speak the action was so far past that half of those times he didn't bother to point it out to save face for Tasteless. The other times he would quickly mention it and move on. Of course I do understand that it was 4am-7am over there while they were commentating and that is partly valid excuse for sure. But I think if Tasteless is going to take this seriously he needs to plan his Saturday around this commentary and make sure he gets enough sleep during the day to make sure he can function properly and feign enthusiasm during the games even if he isn't interested and be more alert so he can catch more stuff on the mini map as it is happening. In any case, I still don't think the commentary and observing was terrible or anything because I still totally enjoyed most of the matches. Hopefully this will be taken as constructive criticism if anyone reads it because I totally appreciate all the work you guys put into this for so little return!! | ||
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Shiro)Tenshi
China214 Posts
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MannerMan
371 Posts
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towel
Sweden156 Posts
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SUSUGAM
United States177 Posts
On February 08 2010 22:33 Chillz wrote: @SUSUGAM I agree with you on most of the things you said. However, it seems to me that Tasteless, who is usually quite good, has been much worse than normal throughout this TSL and particularly bad in this past weekend's matches. Yes, agreed. I didn't mean to single out Artosis as much as I did, but the overall commentary was just bad on that specific day, more than anything else. All the other days, even of these two guys were very good, considering their return. Maybe it's purely the time of day, who knows. I definitely have found Chill and Day's commentary better so far, when I expected the opposite to be true. Both Artosis and Tasteless were both doing poorly, rambling on repeatedly and missing the action. For me personally, too much to enjoy the game. However, I can mute the commentary, but I can't take control of the spectator to see what is happening... which is a much bigger problem for the viewers. | ||
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Regna
Turkey4 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:11 SUSUGAM wrote: I'm sorry if this is ignorant bullshit. I am merely a fan. This is what I've observed. I love watching starcraft. I've been deeply into the scene (as a fan) for years. If the commentators and spectator are doing all of this for free, then I can't blame anyone, and it's just too bad. But if they are being compensated somehow, I feel sorry for PokerStrategy.com for the return. Artosis is great at post-game analysis and his knowledge of the game is very good, but I think he rambles on too much during the games rather than delivering the game play to the viewer. (which Tasteless has always been great at) Tasteless will immediately stop what he's saying when the action starts. Artosis seems to have trouble doing this. It really seems like Nick is trying to just be polite and wait for Artosis to finish his monologues half the time. Hopefully I won't get banned for speaking up. Wouldn't surprise me though. I'm just an ungrateful netizen douchebag anyway, I suppose. No need to feel sorry for PokerStrategy.com what TSL delivers goes far beyond expectation of what they thought we would deliver or be capable of. They have a far more realistic understanding of what we should be delivering compared to the one you seem to be portraying. Which is one that compares us to organizations with studios, 10 years of experience and budgets that go far into the millions. That said your complaints are totally legit. Not the weight you put on them but they are accurate. It feels to me you are largely focused on last Saturdays cast which had the unfortunate event of intrigue our scheduled observer losing power in his building which cause us to at the last minute rely on Carnac who was the stand-in for Saturday, scheduled to cast Sunday himself. Our observer is an extension of the directors due to the 15s delay in the stream that we have to work with due to not having a studio. Needless to say an observer jumping in unprepared for the games will hurt the quality. He will not have seen the games before and has to stress around talking to the directors about what needs to be done next. It is something we very much would like to avoid as well. Would you mind watching Sundays cast and tell us if you feel it was better than the one you're describing. At all times we are trying to improve. We see the same things as all of you and trust me we work our asses off to fix anything we're unsatisfied with. From here on I think you will be pleasantly surprised, as you might already be once you watch yesterdays cast. Here's a screenshot from how our observer works. It includes his SC screen, ventrilo, IRC, the art and the streaming. As you can see we need to be very prepared for a cast to make it work. ![[image loading]](http://i45.tinypic.com/30jgyee.png) | ||
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