EPT[MSL] Final Destination - Page 12
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SD-Spirit
Poland31 Posts
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rtschamp
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
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adamisuber
Canada35 Posts
I hate you mbc, suck every part of my nuts | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
Refs are idiots, they shud just restart the game ... | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
Let's compare what they had... Flash: -3 bases, of which main was mined out. I think he did a quick expansion too, so his natural wouldnt last very long either. -a small vessel count. This is ABSOLUTELY KEY. A game is never over if terran has like 8 vessels, but flash had like 2-4 with low energy since jaedong kept taking them out -not a huge m&m army either. Jaedong: -4 bases, 5 gasses of which corner expo wasnt mining very much. His main may have run out in a couple of minutes. Possibly around the time flashs natural would mine out. -several ultras -several defilers at his expansion ready to keep up the pressure -lings Now the misconception of an inexperienced player would be that Flash had the advantage because he was pressuring jaedongs corner expo so much. The fact, however, is that that was ALL flash had. In your average game you could maybe call it a pretty even situation or flash's advantage, but thats all there was left to this game. If jaedong could keep the expansion, his 5 gas would destroy flash and there's nothing flash would be able to do. Jaedong had enough ultras and lings, but most importantly, he had 2 defilers at the corner expo which flash wouldnt be able to irradiate due to low vessel count and low energy. Flash wasnt right next to hatchery either, he was quite a while away. The longer the game would drag on, the bigger jaedongs advantage would have been. I'll remind once again, he had several ultras and two defilers at his expo. Flash wouldnt have been able to take it down quickly unless jaedong REALLY screwed up. It's something jaedong would not do, or if he did, it's just as realistic to think that flash would screw up Against a B-class progamer Flash could have won and match should have been replayed, but we're talking about jaedong whose decision making and mechanics are about as good as Flash's. Jaedong would have won with 70-90% chance. Flash was pressuring his expo, yes, but thats all there was left to this game. Flash didnt have vessels to take out ultras/defilers, and jaedongs expo would have survived. Flash didn't have enough m&m either to have a real army advantage. None of us is happy about the fact that this happened, but replaying the game or giving the win to flash would have been simply wrong. Can you really replay a match when flash faces the best zerg in the world who would have probably won? I'm sad that this had to happen, it was a really good game and it will shake both players up. I'm also sad that jaedong isn't getting all the credit he should be getting because people will keep talking about the third game jaedong had a chance of losing EDIT: They showed the replay, and actually it was 95% sure that jaedong won. We saw earlier how flash brought all his marines over, then some time after they arrived we saw jaedongs ultraling rape all of his M&M. Flash would not have had a big M&M army after that, and jaedong would have run over him. End of story. Very anti-climatic, but really, it was Jaedongs win. | ||
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Randos
Germany48 Posts
ROOARRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRR ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR | ||
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ZeeTemplar
United States557 Posts
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m4nu
Germany3 Posts
thats not the way a final should be won.. | ||
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yevon1987
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yevon1987
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Sapraedon
United Kingdom142 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9047 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 23 2010 20:52 Garnet wrote: MBC should've invited Kanye West instead of that SS guy. "Yo Jaedong I know you just won an MSL and all...." haha seriously, perfect fit. Ahzz is right though, and I gotta say JD's mindgames were damn perfect this series. He predicted everything perfectly, 3 hatch before pool when flash FEs, overpool (or was it 9 pool?) when flash goes rax before depot. + Show Spoiler + Although stuff like this makes me wonder if there are sometimes practice partners of pro gamers leaking some info, I mean it's possible Had he had just a few more lings in game 2 vs the drop than he would have been in a ridiculously strong position too and probably have taken that game. And let's not forget that those maps arent very zerg-friendly Anyways, this will surely go down as the most disappointing finals in starcraft history. | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
On January 23 2010 20:56 cyclone25 wrote: Ahzz is so right. Jaedong got a "default win" for a game he already won. This affected him a lot more than Flash. If there's anyone to feel sorry about, it's Jaedong, because a lot of you think his win is undeserved. Moreover, people are forgetting something. When two players so close to perfecting their own races play, the one who can prepare the best will have an advantage. We all know that jaedong could prepare for these matches a lot. He even lost to flash twice earlier, which is a VERY important thing because he now knew his mistakes against both key strategies which flash used here in MSL finals too. This result we saw DOES NOT mean Jaedong > Flash skillwise! It means that jaedong played better in this set than flash did. The quality of the finals dropped from amazing to mediocre because of the game crashing, but the decision wasn't unfair in any way. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Regizer
United States5 Posts
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
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