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[MSL] Forget the Past - Page 2

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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 26 2009 13:03 GMT
#21
On November 26 2009 21:45 Mischy wrote:
i haven't been paying attention to PL in 2 years...can someone plz fill me in...are zerg dominanting atm? Is it to do with map pool or advances in play style?


In PL it's hard to say if any one race is dominating; the end of last season saw lots of Zergs due to very friendly maps *coughGod'sGardencough*.

At the moment Flash is the only rock solid player (and even his TvP is shaky): the other top players are fairly evenly distributed: Bisu and Stork, Jaedong and EffOrt, Leta and fantasy - if anything, Terran is probably on top again, as good Terrans (Ruby, Light, Really) seem to be mostly cruising, but current PvT is also brutally efficient. Maps or style, not sure which.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 13:10:49
November 26 2009 13:09 GMT
#22
On November 26 2009 21:45 Mischy wrote:
i haven't been paying attention to PL in 2 years...can someone plz fill me in...are zerg dominanting atm? Is it to do with map pool or advances in play style?

+ Show Spoiler [Small Proleague, OSL and MSL spoilers] +
Zerg has been doing well, and Terrans are doing okay. Protoss has been struggling, there are far fewer Protoss appearances in Proleague (37 TvTs, 21 PvPs and 42 ZvZs to date for example; 98 total Protoss appearances in games played, 134 Terran appearances, and 156 Zerg appearances).

In the OSL Ro16, there are 4 Protoss, 4 Terran and 8 Zerg; In the MSL Ro32, there are 8 Protoss, 8 Terran and 16 Zerg. Zergs are currently at 58% winrate vs. Protoss in Proleague, which is favorable to Zerg, but not as much as the preseason map testing led to believe.

My personal explanation? There is some Z>P bias in the ZvP matchup; Zerg players are doing better, overall, than Protoss players because of it, and since Zerg players are having a better overall performance, more of them get into Starleagues and they are fielded more often by their coaches in Proleague.
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 26 2009 13:58 GMT
#23
Sick writeup and banner!
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
November 26 2009 14:13 GMT
#24
Thanks Atrioc
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OppositeSavior
Profile Joined November 2009
9 Posts
November 26 2009 14:28 GMT
#25
ZERG INVASION
All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
November 26 2009 14:45 GMT
#26
On November 26 2009 23:28 OppositeSavior wrote:
ZERG INVASION

Owned by Flash

Great Reading
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Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
November 26 2009 14:46 GMT
#27
flash will fail :D
Stork FAN!!!
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
November 26 2009 14:49 GMT
#28
Hooray! This might be the first MSL I've watched beginning at Ro32 in a long time.
C'est la vie...
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 26 2009 15:10 GMT
#29
great writeup, the predictions went a bit wrong due to + Show Spoiler +
Calm dropping the ball
!
the TL calendar says MSL group E on the 28th, and liquibet says group C, are they both gonna be played then or what?
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 26 2009 15:39 GMT
#30
Oh wow, did they change Group C's MSL with E's because Flash has to play vs Hite that day? That'd be a shockingly good bit of news by tournament organizers/kespa to stop from overscheduling already overworked players like Jaedong and Flash who have duties in all three leagues.
Remember Violet.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
November 26 2009 15:41 GMT
#31
nice write-up.
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
November 26 2009 15:43 GMT
#32
YYEEAAAHHH!! looks promising already from the first two group's winners : ) But why oh why did Fantasy lose to stats....
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 26 2009 15:50 GMT
#33
On November 27 2009 00:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Oh wow, did they change Group C's MSL with E's because Flash has to play vs Hite that day? That'd be a shockingly good bit of news by tournament organizers/kespa to stop from overscheduling already overworked players like Jaedong and Flash who have duties in all three leagues.

didn't even think about that, oh if that could just be possible :o
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Illusion.
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States348 Posts
November 26 2009 15:55 GMT
#34
ill be streaming the nate msl games!!! Great write up and i hope this will be good!
STORK FOR LIFE.
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
November 26 2009 16:49 GMT
#35
This is so beautifully written!
Great work and the format is great.
Bisu + Flash!!
Making history not reliving it.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
November 26 2009 16:52 GMT
#36
flash is my god
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 26 2009 16:59 GMT
#37
Group C description was awesomely true.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 26 2009 17:06 GMT
#38
Thanks for the write-up <3
+ Show Spoiler +
With Calm out of the MSL, it seems there is even more reason to forget the past
Peace~
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 17:25:49
November 26 2009 17:25 GMT
#39
Nice write up, but please please please, Flash! Give it to me! Give it to me goooood.. Don't let me down (o_o)
AKA SuddenSalad
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
November 26 2009 18:19 GMT
#40
Awesome writeup and graphics man, great job!
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