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Mildly amused by your classifying Fantasy as a top tier player. He was basically 'good' for one season when mech was really strong on the mappool, and then slipped back into complete mediocrity.
I see two good players (Jaedong, Effort), a couple players who are fun to watch (Movie, Kwanro, Kal, Iris) and A LOT of players who aren't very good right now, but I watch anyway because they have a big name (or are hyped a lot). And also Savior, who I can't categorize because I would like it even if he won doing 4pool every game.
I mean, thankfully there isn't anyone who's a total pansy, and is gonna lose because of a sunken break or something, but most of these players are mediocre. Flash is on a winning streak and has a chance to get back into form, but he hasn't beat anyone in particular (save Savior, but even I can tell you that's not a big deal).
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On November 27 2009 03:24 Chef wrote:
Mildly amused by your classifying Fantasy as a top tier player. He was basically 'good' for one season when mech was really strong on the mappool, and then slipped back into complete mediocrity.
I see two good players (Jaedong, Effort), a couple players who are fun to watch (Movie, Kwanro, Kal, Iris) and A LOT of players who aren't very good right now, but I watch anyway because they have a big name (or are hyped a lot). And also Savior, who I can't categorize because I would like it even if he won doing 4pool every game.
I mean, thankfully there isn't anyone who's a total pansy, and is gonna lose because of a sunken break or something, but most of these players are mediocre. Flash is on a winning streak and has a chance to get back into form, but he hasn't beat anyone in particular (save Savior, but even I can tell you that's not a big deal).
So his bio win against Jaedong on Outsider and other similar games are all a joke right, and he's actually not that good.
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awesome graphics! psyched as hell!
here's to a memorable msl
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iris is terrible, i put him in my fpl and he hasn't gotten me shit, hyvaa will be able to take him right now.
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The main banner is exceptionally great, nice writeup overall, props to you Atrioc.
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On November 27 2009 03:39 MuffinDude wrote:
iris is terrible, i put him in my fpl and he hasn't gotten me shit, hyvaa will be able to take him right now.
Yeah Iris doesn't deserve to be classified as a "top tier" player with Flash, Jaedong, et al. Hes done absolutely nothing this season.
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On November 27 2009 03:36 hyst.eric.al wrote:
awesome graphics! psyched as hell!
here's to a memorable msl
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On November 27 2009 03:26 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2009 03:24 Chef wrote:
Mildly amused by your classifying Fantasy as a top tier player. He was basically 'good' for one season when mech was really strong on the mappool, and then slipped back into complete mediocrity.
I see two good players (Jaedong, Effort), a couple players who are fun to watch (Movie, Kwanro, Kal, Iris) and A LOT of players who aren't very good right now, but I watch anyway because they have a big name (or are hyped a lot). And also Savior, who I can't categorize because I would like it even if he won doing 4pool every game.
I mean, thankfully there isn't anyone who's a total pansy, and is gonna lose because of a sunken break or something, but most of these players are mediocre. Flash is on a winning streak and has a chance to get back into form, but he hasn't beat anyone in particular (save Savior, but even I can tell you that's not a big deal). So his bio win against Jaedong on Outsider and other similar games are all a joke right, and he's actually not that good.
I place Fantasy in the group of big names. Not bad, but NOT ON JAEDONG OR EFFORT'S LEVEL. Just another guy who can beat up the bad players, lose all important games to the best players, and go about even with every other glorified okay player. Maybe I'm being harsh when I say okay, because okay to me means they never make any stupid mistakes (which would make games boring to watch, but it really hard to do none the less). It's been a year since Fantasy has gotten a medal (both silvers), and in StarCraft time that's enough to say he's not a force in the scene.
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On November 27 2009 04:55 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2009 03:26 fanatacist wrote:On November 27 2009 03:24 Chef wrote:
Mildly amused by your classifying Fantasy as a top tier player. He was basically 'good' for one season when mech was really strong on the mappool, and then slipped back into complete mediocrity.
I see two good players (Jaedong, Effort), a couple players who are fun to watch (Movie, Kwanro, Kal, Iris) and A LOT of players who aren't very good right now, but I watch anyway because they have a big name (or are hyped a lot). And also Savior, who I can't categorize because I would like it even if he won doing 4pool every game.
I mean, thankfully there isn't anyone who's a total pansy, and is gonna lose because of a sunken break or something, but most of these players are mediocre. Flash is on a winning streak and has a chance to get back into form, but he hasn't beat anyone in particular (save Savior, but even I can tell you that's not a big deal). So his bio win against Jaedong on Outsider and other similar games are all a joke right, and he's actually not that good. I place Fantasy in the group of big names. Not bad, but NOT ON JAEDONG OR EFFORT'S LEVEL. Just another guy who can beat up the bad players, lose all important games to the best players, and go about even with every other glorified okay player. Maybe I'm being harsh when I say okay, because okay to me means they never make any stupid mistakes (which would make games boring to watch, but it really hard to do none the less). It's been a year since Fantasy has gotten a medal (both silvers), and in StarCraft time that's enough to say he's not a force in the scene.
Are you dumb? Effort has never gotten a medal, and yet you say he's up there with Jaedong.
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I have a feeling that this MSL's ro8 to finals will be the most epic ever
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Braavos36390 Posts
nice job!
every MSL starts with so much promise, hopefully this one ends well
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I like how you ignore the obvious.
+ Show Spoiler +
Nice writeup. Some of the groups are hard to decide, while others eg. jaedong, effort, seem quite straightforward.
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why does everyone shit on the kwan kwan man? Hes fucking good, just admit it for once. Jeez.
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Probably his horrible start in SPL after coming over to Woongjin and how he got wiped off the floor by Calm last MSL.
+ Show Spoiler +But Calm is out and kwanro advances!
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USA29055 Posts
looks amazing  Nice writeup guys, great graphics etc..
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On November 27 2009 00:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Oh wow, did they change Group C's MSL with E's because Flash has to play vs Hite that day? That'd be a shockingly good bit of news by tournament organizers/kespa to stop from overscheduling already overworked players like Jaedong and Flash who have duties in all three leagues.
If that’s true, then I think they’ve made flash’s schedule even worse.
Next week, he’ll have proleague against STX on Tuesday, stork on Wednesday, and msl on Thursday.. I’m a bit worried about that.
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Calm is not S-Class. Please dont say that again.
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United States17042 Posts
very nice writeup. Hopefully the maps will end up working out to be fairly balanced. q
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On November 27 2009 07:09 Mastermind wrote:
Calm is not S-Class. Please dont say that again.
calm was A bordering on S for a while. Fantasy made him look really really bad recently though.
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Counting Kespa sanctioned games, Fantasy is 6-7 vs, Jaedong, 2-2 vs. Flash, 3-2 vs. Bisu. Stork is 7-7 JD, 8-4 Flash, 9-9 Bisu,. while Effort is 1-5, 1-6, and 0-3. If this teaches us anything, Fantasy and Stork is more closer to S class than Effort and Effort's like Leta. All the wins come from lesser players. Can't be the best if you can't beat the best.
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