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ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 09:51:32
September 14 2009 09:50 GMT
#41
On September 14 2009 18:33 Alethios wrote:
Fuck KeSPA. I haven't heard anything positive about this idiots in so long. Seems every time I look they're disqualifying another gamer for coughing too loudly.

I don't care whether or not they're fighting to keep themselves relevant or not. Companies have the right to increase their profit margins by dubious practices, and we have the right not to buy their products. Seriously, fuck them.

Blizzard should release a SC patch specifically aimed to fuck these wankers.


Let me spell it out for you.

Blizzard is trying to get into the Esports Market.

KeSPA wants to maintain dominance in the Esports Market in S. Korea.

All the things that have happened are because of this power struggle, basically. Blizzard made a move, KeSPA made a move. Yet, it's "fuck KeSPA?" It should be, let's see what happens because we have no say in the matter anyways.

Is this easier to understand?
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 09:57:03
September 14 2009 09:51 GMT
#42
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting korean e-sports in general, and doing stuff like helping out new leagues, defending players' rights etc - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
September 14 2009 09:53 GMT
#43
Why would Bliz continue to affiliate with gom when it has no pull in korea? It's baffling they made the move in the first place.

This is a kespa/blizzard issue, and as far as I'm concerned gom made a really stupid move by getting in the middle of that. It had been sanctioned by kespa already.
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done
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany70 Posts
September 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#44
What are Tasteless and SDM going to do, when there are no games of any interest to cast? thats really sad, Tasteless made some huge sacrifices to support the foreign community with english speaking casts... just sad
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
September 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#45
how is it sad? he got to cast for 3 seasons and some change. and what sacrifice? it was an opportunity for him
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ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 09:57:23
September 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#46
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#47
This makes me sad, since Tasteless/GOMTV is what made me interested in SC/Progaming in the first place. -_-"
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
September 14 2009 09:58 GMT
#48
This ZvP is quite nice !!! GG now
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 10:06:40
September 14 2009 10:01 GMT
#49
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

PS: I might add that South Korea is not known for having the cleanest business methods out there when it comes to heavy political or corporate interests.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 14 2009 10:01 GMT
#50
I'm going to really enjoy watching Kespa die when the day inevitably comes
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 14 2009 10:03 GMT
#51
Kespa making a power move. I wonder how they forced the teams to withdraw from the GOM league?
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
September 14 2009 10:07 GMT
#52
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

Doing something out of one's own interest isn't justification. You can say what they're doing is logical, smart, or whatever, but it doesn't necessarily mean that what they're doing is right.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
September 14 2009 10:10 GMT
#53
As far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever they want. But when they start interfering with good tournaments and furthermore potential epic games, fuck them sideways.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
knf
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden282 Posts
September 14 2009 10:10 GMT
#54
These are, most certainly, Blizzard vs KeSPA power games in anticipation for Starcraft 2 and broadcasting rights. We have not seen the end of this yet...
I was born to fast expand!
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
September 14 2009 10:11 GMT
#55
On September 14 2009 19:01 Matoo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

I'm not sure you understand the situation here

the companies are the life blood of esport, they sponsor the teams and the leagues. kespa has made dumb moves in the past, but it's still a korean institution, who is best at serving the needs of korean esport.

blizzard, or activisionblizzard profitted from the increased exposure and millions of additional sales, and yet they're now trying to muscle in on an industry they didn't create. It's like not being happy with a free pie that fell from the sky and demanding the sky for more pies.
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ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
September 14 2009 10:12 GMT
#56
On September 14 2009 19:01 Matoo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

PS: I might add that South Korea is not known for having the cleanest business methods out there when it comes to heavy political or corporate interests.


You're so naive and stupid.

I find easily find as much trash on French organizations but it would just be a waste of my time. Just like you are right now.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
September 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#57
On September 14 2009 19:11 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 19:01 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

I'm not sure you understand the situation here

the companies are the life blood of esport, they sponsor the teams and the leagues. kespa has made dumb moves in the past, but it's still a korean institution, who is best at serving the needs of korean esport.

blizzard, or activisionblizzard profitted from the increased exposure and millions of additional sales, and yet they're now trying to muscle in on an industry they didn't create. It's like not being happy with a free pie that fell from the sky and demanding the sky for more pies.


Bingo!


The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 14 2009 10:14 GMT
#58
On September 14 2009 19:11 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 19:01 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

I'm not sure you understand the situation here

the companies are the life blood of esport, they sponsor the teams and the leagues. kespa has made dumb moves in the past, but it's still a korean institution, who is best at serving the needs of korean esport.

blizzard, or activisionblizzard profitted from the increased exposure and millions of additional sales, and yet they're now trying to muscle in on an industry they didn't create. It's like not being happy with a free pie that fell from the sky and demanding the sky for more pies.

"I'm not sure you understand the situation here"

Funny how you post this and then post 2 paragraphs of arguments that don't relate to each other at all. Also, Blizzard doesn't want complete control of a leagues. It would delegate the responsibility to a Korean institution of its choice... probably GOM.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
September 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#59
-_- omg, i'm so sad. Gom TV is what seriously got me into esports with their english cast and now it just won't feel the same. I'm really gonna miss tasteless and SDM ;(
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#60
On September 14 2009 19:12 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 19:01 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:56 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:51 Matoo- wrote:
On September 14 2009 18:29 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Look, no one is in the "wrong" here. All parties are fighting for their interests. I wish people would stop being ignorant fools and stop blaming KeSPA. Every esthablishment will fight to keep themselves relevant. Nothing one is to blame here, maybe except the system because this is how the system works. This is just business/politics, and innocent people will suffer along the way. That's just the reality of it all. No one has all the information on the matter so picking sides is just jumping the gun and really useless. Just see how things play out and hope Esports survive in Korea, and grow everywhere else.

The reason why many people hate KeSPA is that, beyond being just another greedy corporation, it was supposed to be promoting e-sports in general, and that includes things like helping out new leagues, defending players rights and stuff - but in reality KeSPA is doing the exact opposite.


Then you hate every single governing establishment in the world. Everyone that "hates" KeSPA is a moron because you can easily equate KeSPA's practices to every single established organization in the world. Yes, even in France.

Bottom line, is they are doing what they feel is in their best interests. Blizzard is doing the same things. In fact, NO LAN was one of their first move in attempting to plunder the Esports industry in Korea.

They are doing what is in the best interest of the companies they work for (most people on the KeSPA board belong to companies with interests at stake and are not independent at all), not what is in the best interest of korean e-sports in general (or in the best interest of pro-gamers in particular - see recent FA incident). That's the issue. It's not at all "just like every other organization out there". You're oversimplifying.

PS: I might add that South Korea is not known for having the cleanest business methods out there when it comes to heavy political or corporate interests.


You're so naive and stupid.

I find easily find as much trash on French organizations but it would just be a waste of my time. Just like you are right now.

Wow, screw you.
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