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Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
July 26 2009 14:17 GMT
#25
Sign me up comrade.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
July 29 2009 07:49 GMT
#146
Reporting for duty so I don't get picked off as an inactive. When does Night 1 start?
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
July 31 2009 10:09 GMT
#491
On July 31 2009 09:13 coltrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 07:14 Shikyo wrote:
I've thought about this a little. Posing as Veteran has the benefit of possible living longer. Also, if a NKVD checks another NKVD, he'd know it was a blue(I mean red) and could start talking to him and form a circle.

Posing as Ukrainians needs to have enough gains to overweight the innate losses. The obvious problem of course is that when a NKVD checks another NKVD, instead of being able to form any kind of a circle, it'll most likely lead to the death of both NKVD's. Although some people say that the risk is too small to consider, I'm... not sure. The chance is still there, and it'd be an extremely heavy blow to the town, and a waste of 2 days of lynches(Potentially like 18 kills max for the Ukrainians).

Now, besides this huge problem, the gains are: If an Ukrainian checks a NKVD posing as an Ukrainian, he contacts him and both get killed after the Ukrainian claims to be NKVD as well. But what if the Ukrainian doesn't contact him in that manner? What if he starts PMing him ordinarily to find out what role he might be? Or analyse posts? And if he's not convinced that he's not rebel, he might just hit someone else and avoid him? Furthermore, trading 1-to-1 townies to Ukrainians isn't a good idea. Ukrainians most likely have a huge KP in this game. Trading 1-1 is most likely not going to be enough unless they kill enough of their own.

But then again the Ukrainians couldn't properly form circles..... Sigh, which of these is better depends on who the Ukrainians are and their playing style and personality, pretty much. I don't think I can pick the plan that is better at this moment.



Dont any one get it? We cant form any ring or whatever in any case.

If a NKVD gets dt by anyone is MUCH MORE PROBABLE that he was DTed from an ukranian. Then NKVD posing as any they want cant trust any who pmed them about their cover. THats why we dont gain any posibility for NKVD to make a ring if they look like vets or any blue role. The advantage you describe is not such.

Then, if the NKVD possing as Ukranian is not contacted, then he will live more and get all of his DTs into a good use.

So the only advantege of get them as vets (to be able to form rings) isnt real. I say it again. They MUST go as ukranians. If you are a NKVD and dont believe me, then go as vet, is better than other things... but you are wasting a nice oportunity (and fun like shit).



And, about the maths, i made an automaton program, is not based upon random things, is based in individual decisions of each virtual player. But, that i made it just for myself. Dont despite good math analisys, like in poker it could give us an edge.


I would lynch ace cuz he is dividing the town... but i am voting for L, and really dont give a shit about first lynch.-

Are you admitting you're a dirty rebel or was that just a slip? lol
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Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 01 2009 05:14 GMT
#558
Regarding the special condition happening on Night 2.
If I'm reading this correctly, the red army has the NKVD, commissar, medic and demoman who are able to act at night. If everyone who is towny does nothing Night 2, then we can deduce a minimum number of rebels among us. However, by doing so we do miss NKVD role checks (I'm guessing that commissars, medics and demomen shouldn't be acting on Night 2 anyway). The rebels now have to choose. Make known how many walk our streets, or do nothing. Is this worth losing a Night though?
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Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 02 2009 01:46 GMT
#671
Shouldn't we be thinking about the special condition for Night 2? There's no point in questioning Ace's role right now because none of us can confirm it. We'll just have to wait and see and question it based on his actions. Anyway, I think it's pretty clear we follow Scara's list and lynch Kuja or Rebirith the next day.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 02 2009 02:55 GMT
#679
On August 02 2009 10:59 Zato-1 wrote:
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On August 02 2009 10:46 Siefu wrote:
Shouldn't we be thinking about the special condition for Night 2?

What is there to think about? I doubt this condition will change anyone's choice of action for night 2. There will no doubt be some analysis to do after we know how many players acted on night 2.

Well we only know the total number of players. We don't know how many of each role we have, although I guess we can just make assumptions and estimates.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 10 2009 06:56 GMT
#1168
The game died -_-
Where do we go from here? Clue analysis or ?
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 11 2009 07:24 GMT
#1175
Looks like we have at least another five Ukranian bastards among us.

He looked up and saw a man with dual armblades and a pair of what looked to be demon wings slowly cutting him up.

Could this be a reference to the demon hunter from Warcraft III?
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 11 2009 08:28 GMT
#1178
I say we lynch MyHeroNoob. Why you ask? Well, I am now pretty sure that the dual armblade wielding ninja is a reference to Warcraft III's Demon Hunter or DotA's Anti-Mage.

Teks was visiting the local village head for a shakedown peaceful negotiation when he suddenly felt like somebody was draining away his energy. He looked up and saw a man with dual armblades and a pair of what looked to be demon wings slowly cutting him up.

The dual armblades and demon wings fits the description. Also, Teks felt like he was being drained of energy, or what Warcraft calls mana. This again fits my conclusion. We also know that Anti-Mage is ezmode and for noobs, hence, MyHeroNoob. This alone probably isn't enough, but I have more.

If you take a look at his voting history, Day 1 he voted for motbob for Field Marshal. I don't think motbob was even running for FM. Day 2 he voted to lynch motbob, when we all agreed to lynch clazziquai. Day 3 he again voted to lynch motbob, when that day we all agreed to lynch Kuja900. Day 4 he votes for Elemenope and chaoser, which was the first vote for chaoser which led to his death via bandwagoning. He also isn't very active in the thread but gets his votes in fairly early. So, shall we lynch this motherfucker?

Also, these people are considered suspicious for voting on Day 1 for people with no platforms who ended up with next to no votes (candidate on top, voters on bottom). Maybe we can determine who our second candidate for lynching can be.

+ Show Spoiler +
Motbob 1
MyHeroNoob

Malongo 1
c.ngek

Shikyo 1
L10f

LucasWoj 2
LucasWoj
T_co

Person935 1
Person935

BTW Scara, don't give up yet. We don't even know the victory conditions.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 11 2009 14:12 GMT
#1184
From past kills here are a couple of running themes.

1. Impotency
"L the Impotent" on Day 3
RPG round not going off correctly on Day 4

2. Anti-tank Weapons
Anti-tank rifle on Day 3
RPG-7 on Day 4

3. Poisoning
L poisoned with a herb on Day 3
Elemenope's spiked BearSemen on Day 5

4. 'pewpewpew'
Mentioned on both Day 4 and Day 5

Also a rather weak lead, a quick google of Sinensis leads to pages on wikipedia about plants, the first one of which (Camellia Sinensis) has applications in traditional Chinese medicine. This could be linked to the herbal poisoning of L, although the plant in the article is not poisonous and is actually used in tea. Sinensis also means Chinese in Latin.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 11 2009 14:23 GMT
#1185
On August 11 2009 23:08 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 17:28 Siefu wrote:
I say we lynch MyHeroNoob. Why you ask? Well, I am now pretty sure that the dual armblade wielding ninja is a reference to Warcraft III's Demon Hunter or DotA's Anti-Mage.

Teks was visiting the local village head for a shakedown peaceful negotiation when he suddenly felt like somebody was draining away his energy. He looked up and saw a man with dual armblades and a pair of what looked to be demon wings slowly cutting him up.

The dual armblades and demon wings fits the description. Also, Teks felt like he was being drained of energy, or what Warcraft calls mana. This again fits my conclusion. We also know that Anti-Mage is ezmode and for noobs, hence, MyHeroNoob. This alone probably isn't enough, but I have more.

If you take a look at his voting history, Day 1 he voted for motbob for Field Marshal. I don't think motbob was even running for FM. Day 2 he voted to lynch motbob, when we all agreed to lynch clazziquai. Day 3 he again voted to lynch motbob, when that day we all agreed to lynch Kuja900. Day 4 he votes for Elemenope and chaoser, which was the first vote for chaoser which led to his death via bandwagoning. He also isn't very active in the thread but gets his votes in fairly early. So, shall we lynch this motherfucker?

Also, these people are considered suspicious for voting on Day 1 for people with no platforms who ended up with next to no votes (candidate on top, voters on bottom). Maybe we can determine who our second candidate for lynching can be.

+ Show Spoiler +
Motbob 1
MyHeroNoob

Malongo 1
c.ngek

Shikyo 1
L10f

LucasWoj 2
LucasWoj
T_co

Person935 1
Person935

BTW Scara, don't give up yet. We don't even know the victory conditions.

I voted for motbob for fun because he was the first person on the list of players and my one vote wasn't going to have much effect. I wasn't the first to vote for chaoser, someone else did but then changed his vote. I vote because I check this the forum everyday? Don't call me a motherfucker based on your crappy assumptions acting like your sherlock holmes

Alright I admit I was out of line for calling you a motherfucker, but are you seriously saying you didn't vote for chaoser first?

On August 07 2009 12:23 Zato-1 wrote:
It's impolite. Imagine if you did that to L's corpse, after the humiliation he already suffered at death.

On August 07 2009 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
I would like to see him try to lynch my ashes.

PS: Caller you must use your birthday power to save us, you our only hope! Fix the forum!

These are the only posts before yours that contain edits. Both of these people died on Day 4, hence they couldn't vote. There are holes in your story. You sir, are a liar.
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 14 2009 00:58 GMT
#1201
Well it looks like I was totally off
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
August 16 2009 07:35 GMT
#1217
Argh backstabbed by a dirty spy D:
gg Ukranians
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