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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2009 15:45 GMT
#61
Oh, actually the latter part of the spoiler is semi - incorrect, but I won't edit it I guess.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2009 15:47 GMT
#62
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
May 18 2009 15:50 GMT
#63
On May 19 2009 00:43 Shikyo wrote:
I'm not exactly sure if KTF is slumping, though... it might be a bit too far-fetched. But of course, we have to keep this stuff in mind some clues come up later that might relate to these. Still, day 1 clues are day 1 clues, so please don't draw any strange conclusions off them. + Show Spoiler [very minor Death Note spoilers] +
L actually isn't the main character of Death Note; Light is. And he's not a police officer, but rather a righteous/religious school boy.


Oh yes.. thanks.. been a couple years since I watched that... got the two confused.. L is the detective character, so bleh.. I guess that was all rather irrelevant of me xD
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
teks
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway263 Posts
May 18 2009 15:51 GMT
#64
On May 19 2009 00:47 chaoser wrote:
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[


Yeah, it's not very likely that they are all valid clues pointing to the same person, it would make things too easy for a day 1 clue imo. But for each possible clue the chance that one of them is real increases, and this is something we should keep in mind when voting, seeing how he IS running for office (although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2009 15:56 GMT
#65
On May 19 2009 00:51 teks wrote:(although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself).

To me, this little bit actually increases the chance of mafia slightly. I'm not accusing him of anything, but it still does.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
May 18 2009 15:56 GMT
#66
It's definitely worth keeping track of all these things even if they seem wild now, it may all come together at one point, and best to be prepared.

On May 19 2009 00:51 teks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 00:47 chaoser wrote:
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[


Yeah, it's not very likely that they are all valid clues pointing to the same person, it would make things too easy for a day 1 clue imo. But for each possible clue the chance that one of them is real increases, and this is something we should keep in mind when voting, seeing how he IS running for office (although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself).


This is Mafia. He could be lying. We never know.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
teks
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway263 Posts
May 18 2009 16:07 GMT
#67
I had a theory that the mafia would communicate and organize beforing deciding who they would nominate for office, and thus if he is mafia, I would think that he wouldn't be the first one to be nominated. This theory is however shattered to pieces if it is like he says, that he didn't check his role before he nominated himself. This also means that the mafia no longer needed to nominate a person for office, perhaps meaning that the two other candidates are green or blue. This is QUITE a longshot though.

God, this is quite the puzzle to put together.. I'm probably way off right now :p
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2009 16:10 GMT
#68
On May 19 2009 00:56 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
It's definitely worth keeping track of all these things even if they seem wild now, it may all come together at one point, and best to be prepared.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 00:51 teks wrote:
On May 19 2009 00:47 chaoser wrote:
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[


Yeah, it's not very likely that they are all valid clues pointing to the same person, it would make things too easy for a day 1 clue imo. But for each possible clue the chance that one of them is real increases, and this is something we should keep in mind when voting, seeing how he IS running for office (although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself).


This is Mafia. He could be lying. We never know.


what is mafia?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Knutti
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway8 Posts
May 18 2009 16:12 GMT
#69
On May 19 2009 00:43 Shikyo wrote:
I'm not exactly sure if KTF is slumping


You wouldn't be saying that if you had KTF in FPL

@teks: everyone can say they didn't check their roles before nominating for sheriff/mayor but that doesn't make it any more true and imo anyone who says that are only trying to draw suspicion away from themself
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2009 16:15 GMT
#70
On May 19 2009 01:10 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 00:56 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
It's definitely worth keeping track of all these things even if they seem wild now, it may all come together at one point, and best to be prepared.

On May 19 2009 00:51 teks wrote:
On May 19 2009 00:47 chaoser wrote:
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[


Yeah, it's not very likely that they are all valid clues pointing to the same person, it would make things too easy for a day 1 clue imo. But for each possible clue the chance that one of them is real increases, and this is something we should keep in mind when voting, seeing how he IS running for office (although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself).


This is Mafia. He could be lying. We never know.


what is mafia?

"Pyrry's --->Mafia<--- Game - Day 1"

I too do think that the mafia shouldn't have posted too actively yet, and I doubt they would have anyone running for office yet. I think we should wait for a while longer, until everyone in America is able to post as well, and then possibly compose a list of inactive users.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2009 16:17 GMT
#71
On May 19 2009 01:12 Knutti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 00:43 Shikyo wrote:
I'm not exactly sure if KTF is slumping


You wouldn't be saying that if you had KTF in FPL

@teks: everyone can say they didn't check their roles before nominating for sheriff/mayor but that doesn't make it any more true and imo anyone who says that are only trying to draw suspicion away from themself

I don't think KTF really was a favorite in the first place.

And that's correct, that's why I think the chance of being mafia is higher if someone says that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
May 18 2009 16:24 GMT
#72
On May 19 2009 00:31 BWdero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 15:34 motbob wrote:
Who is this comic book character? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bwdero

EDIT: This is the last time I'll edit one of my posts. Spelled a word wrong.


That would be Black Bolt, King of the Inhumans.


@chaoser

Even if we do lynch an inactive blue we don't really hurt the town because they were inactive anyways.

I support killing off an inactive. But only if no major suspects come up. Seeing how this is only the first day I seriously doubt any suspects will come up. Seeing as how day 1 clue analysis is rubbish and only an idiot mafia would betray himself so early.


In the parking lot, LTT, the love child of the late L and Samsung Khan's captain, read an Erlend Loe novel in his Audi sports car. Without warning, his + Show Spoiler +
windshield shattered and a wave of glass ripped through
LTT's face. Passing out from blood loss, LTT's head slumped, + Show Spoiler +
sounding a horn that would not be heard in time
.

Hi,
I guess the Black bolt can do that no. Make a sound that would rip the glass.

For Ilovektf, I am not convinced yet teks. Poor flash, well he wasn't really slumping that hard + Show Spoiler +
especially prior to yesterday night's games.
. But potentially nice find anyways.

Yes, I would want more members to throw their hat into their ring.

Shikyo your campaign platform showed that you are organized and thoughtful, and I like your logic that I get from your writing. Some obvious stuff, but your incarnation policy is solid, and I would implement that if elected.
EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
May 18 2009 16:25 GMT
#73
On May 19 2009 01:07 teks wrote:
I had a theory that the mafia would communicate and organize beforing deciding who they would nominate for office, and thus if he is mafia, I would think that he wouldn't be the first one to be nominated. This theory is however shattered to pieces if it is like he says, that he didn't check his role before he nominated himself. This also means that the mafia no longer needed to nominate a person for office, perhaps meaning that the two other candidates are green or blue. This is QUITE a longshot though.

God, this is quite the puzzle to put together.. I'm probably way off right now :p


I don't think him nominating himself before checking his role has that much significance (Spelling?). Because if you look at it it's almost a win-win situation no matter if he gets town or mafia. If he's town and gets into office he will have ensured mafia doesn't get an office position, and will be in a position of use. If he on the other hand gets mafia and is elected, well go figure.

All this information is usefull for is that we should probably be suspicious if no more serious candidates come forth. But for now i think we should leave it.

Hi
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
May 18 2009 16:37 GMT
#74
At this point, there isn't really much to go on in Day 1, since there are a lot of new people in this game, thus unable to gauge their personalities, which does not help with the clue analysis. Lynching on Day 1 is going to be a crapshoot unless the detectives can rolecheck, and they can't until night.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 18 2009 16:45 GMT
#75
First up, i'm glad there's already a fair amount of discussion going on, this is great. particularly since this is somewhat of a newbie game, it's much more likely that mafia can make a mistake when trying to fit in with an active town. so, keep it up!

I think I'll go ahead and announce my candidacy for sheriff/mayor as well. My experience? I've played in every single mafia game on teamliquid, including tracil's. I've been green, blue and red, so i've been around, and know what to expect. I never ran for office, mostly because i was (and still am, of course) learning, and plus there were some crazy-good people like ace that usually run. a lot of them are in the other mafia game though, so i feel like i have an edge here

issue of the first lynch -- promising to lynch an inactive is a decent start, since obviously we want everyone to be active. like mentioned earlier, this gives us a better shot at pinpointing mafia (especially given that there are many beginners here)

issue of my activity -- i'll go ahead and say it: i won't be the most active player here. i work fulltime, but i will be online every day, and i will have several hours of free time, so this shouldn't be an issue.

issues of votes/incarcs -- mayor votes are powerful because they can stop (or start) retarded bandwagons (see last game). as for incarcs, i haven't played with most of the people here, but i'm sure many will step up (because you'll be active, remember?) and prove themselves valuable to the town/desirable targets for mafia

so yeah, jeejee for office!
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 18 2009 17:02 GMT
#76
Oh yeah and the obligatory campaign poster,

[image loading]
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2009 18:00 GMT
#77
Okay, at least there's one more person running for office, now. The game has been quite quiet thus far, I wonder if it'll at any point become more active.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
softer
Profile Joined January 2005
Norway104 Posts
May 18 2009 18:50 GMT
#78
I just want to reiterate why lynching an inactive is good the first day.
A common mafia strategy is to lay low. By forcing people to post, the mafia will have to come out or risk being lynched. Making them post gives them the chance to make mistakes. An important part of finding mafia is seeing what they say, look for inconsistencies or outright lies.

That being said, I'm gonna vote for Shikyo for now. He seems to be smart and sincere.
Visualize success, but dont believe your eyes
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
May 18 2009 18:55 GMT
#79
On May 19 2009 01:24 Jimtudor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 00:31 BWdero wrote:
On May 18 2009 15:34 motbob wrote:
Who is this comic book character? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bwdero

EDIT: This is the last time I'll edit one of my posts. Spelled a word wrong.


That would be Black Bolt, King of the Inhumans.


@chaoser

Even if we do lynch an inactive blue we don't really hurt the town because they were inactive anyways.

I support killing off an inactive. But only if no major suspects come up. Seeing how this is only the first day I seriously doubt any suspects will come up. Seeing as how day 1 clue analysis is rubbish and only an idiot mafia would betray himself so early.


In the parking lot, LTT, the love child of the late L and Samsung Khan's captain, read an Erlend Loe novel in his Audi sports car. Without warning, his + Show Spoiler +
windshield shattered and a wave of glass ripped through
LTT's face. Passing out from blood loss, LTT's head slumped, + Show Spoiler +
sounding a horn that would not be heard in time
.

Hi,
I guess the Black bolt can do that no. Make a sound that would rip the glass.

For Ilovektf, I am not convinced yet teks. Poor flash, well he wasn't really slumping that hard + Show Spoiler +
especially prior to yesterday night's games.
. But potentially nice find anyways.

Yes, I would want more members to throw their hat into their ring.

Shikyo your campaign platform showed that you are organized and thoughtful, and I like your logic that I get from your writing. Some obvious stuff, but your incarnation policy is solid, and I would implement that if elected.

I shouldn't have clicked on that Flash spoiler
EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
May 18 2009 19:10 GMT
#80
On May 19 2009 03:00 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, at least there's one more person running for office, now. The game has been quite quiet thus far, I wonder if it'll at any point become more active.


I think we just need to get started. Many most likely (including me) don't really know what to do and just try to follow the discussions, and come with input when they think they can contribute.

With that said i think Shikyo seems like the best choice for mayor so far, so he has my vote.
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