EPTsomeone thats pretty smart at analyzing things. He came to the same conclusions I did:
either you are mafia or you were like shit.
Once again, pick your poison.
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
someone thats pretty smart at analyzing things. He came to the same conclusions I did: either you are mafia or you were like shit. Once again, pick your poison. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
I realize inactives still would hurt pretty badly and that bad players would still hurt too. My initial thoughts are with more even KP they wouldn't be as dramatic, but I can't say for sure. I dunno, I was throwing that out there. I don't see a priori how double lynch every day means the town is OP (obviously there would be more than 7 mafia in a 30 player game; basically I was suggesting taking a 15 player standard mafia game and scaling it up by doubling everything. I realize this doesn't work with every kind of game but I don't see how it automatically fails here) but maybe it is true. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 31 2009 09:42 Ace wrote: someone thats pretty smart at analyzing things. He came to the same conclusions I did: either you are mafia or you were like shit. Once again, pick your poison. I think that you're speaking too highly of him? And who are you to trashtalk me like that? You're just mad that you couldn't read me. So the point of this beginner game is to have beginners play bad, and then have the vets come and call them shit? Get a life. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Then remember that the way the game goes, information exchanges, circles of trust, and people (in good games anyway) get confirmed mafia or townie depending on past actions. If you double the Mafia and add double lynches now you have more circles of trust that will be broken because now too many mafia can infiltrate. So you need to add more Townies now too  With town double lynching every day to compensate for their KP it's kind of a cop out for the town. Imagine any scenario where the Town has to resolve an argument between 2 conflicting roleclaims: fuck it, lynch em both. Now the Mafia has no incentive to ever really start these arguments which decreases their ability to confuse the town. You'd also have to just get rid of Vigilante type roles too v_v. To be honest though, TL Mafia games are not high level enough where you'd have so much of this stuff going on so MAYBE you could do it. I'm just trying to caution you that it's going to be very hard on the Mafia side if the town isn't collectively stupid. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 31 2009 09:48 Shikyo wrote: I think that you're speaking too highly of him? And who are you to trashtalk me like that? You're just mad that you couldn't read me. So the point of this beginner game is to have beginners play bad, and then have the vets come and call them shit? Get a life. Uh...no. I think you once again assume that I really was trying to pay you much attention. Stop bitching and pay ATTENTION. I really wasn't trying to figure out all the Mafia because I noticed what was going on in the town and just gave up trying to make any sense of it myself. JeeJee and Elemenope are talking to me in Garena (DOTA chat) and explaining to me what's going on. I ask some questions, skim a few posts. I come to a conclusion. Thats it. Unlike most people that play the game I'll keep it 100% honest and point out any flaws people make, including myself. If you can't handle being called bad for playing like shit then maybe you shouldn't play any more Mafia games. Get lost if you're a quitter. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
I would have felt absolutely terrible had we actually won that game with what the town had done to that point. | ||
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Shikyo
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Believe what you want to believe though. On May 31 2009 09:59 Shikyo wrote: I just don't get why you go around doing that, you're not even in the game o.o Do you realize that you made JeeJee act completely retarded and removed the rest of our chances to actually win the game? It's almost like sabotaging a game, it's not appreciated. I respected you a lot but now I'm starting to understand RoL. Ask me if I care. Seriously. | ||
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On May 31 2009 10:05 Shikyo wrote: We could have lynched Paw and l10f if people had actually listened and certain people hadn't demanded me being lynched. Also, JeeJee played far worse than me in an elected position(note, he told everyone to lynch pretty much only townies), so... I don't get Ace. BF4Life always plays well, I guess. Considering over half of the townies were inactive....I don't see how this is different than everybody's idea of lynching inactives. And let's not forget BWdero (edit: day 3 lynch as a whole actually).... You would've lynched the same townspeople as Shinbi except on Day 4, which was past what mattered. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On May 31 2009 10:05 Shikyo wrote: We could have lynched Paw and l10f if people had actually listened and certain people hadn't demanded me being lynched. Also, JeeJee played far worse than me in an elected position(note, he told everyone to lynch pretty much only townies), so... I don't get Ace. BF4Life always plays well, I guess. lol. i told you guys why jayme isn't mafia, but basically the only way to stop the bandwagon was to have YOU vote for someone else it was on YOUR shoulders. and hey, at least i played my role in a pro-town way. you know, unlike some people (you and foolishness come to mind) | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
The town as a whole had zero chance after day 4, seriously. The mafia should have just shut up and never said another word and we still would probably have lost because we were in a pretty much unwinnable situation unless both motbob and I could read minds. The only possible chance we had was having the best medic play ever after day 4. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
It's just really amazing that me talking to him = him making crazy plays = I sabotaged this game. Wow. Some people will really go so far to mask their own terrible decision making instead of standing back, looking at the game as a whole and deciding why they fucked up and why some things happened. Whatever, I have to go update my list on my computer of "people never to listen to in a Mafia game unless in dire need". RoL, nemy, Shityo, Foolishness, Incognito, like 8 more people too. This shit grows fast. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
But yeah, after the town failed to lynch l10f in the double lynch, it was over. | ||
iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
I want another go at this "newbie game" please. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Oh well, I'm sure the next game will be just as fun ^_^ I can play even more strangely than I did in this one. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Or is it he was just the "least shitty player" that gets him the MVP? v_v | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
"From all the intel I have gathered, mostly working with teks here, it is reasonable to assume that these 5 people are mafia: ydg, wurm, pawsom, l10f, phelix." So yeah, MVP in my eyes. EDIT: Not to mention his fake accusing me and acting stupid at the beginning to drive attention away from him, letting him do his DT work in peace. I really don't get what more you can ask for a DT, finding 5 out of 7 mafia is pretty good. | ||
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