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What we need to do now is ALL the people who were hit last night need to come forward DO NOT REVEAL IF YOU ARE A VET OR MEDIC PROTECTED We need to figure out how many hits each mafia has so we can try to figure out what the kill formula is. I think 2 hits per mafia is way too weak. I also think 3 hits each mafia is weak, but just means that the mafia need to focus and make sure they kill the town and not each other. Which would make it hard. I can see 2 successful protects being possible, but 4 seems very unlikely. Once we have that figured out, does anyone know who the two DTs were in contact with? The only way for no one to have any idea is if the two DTs role checked the godfather who claimed vet or something and just told him what they were figuring it was statistically in their favor for him to NOT be godfaher. That seems very unlikely, unless hes a known power player from previous mafia games and has been active in the thread. Off the top of my head SoG and Caller come to mind from my post skimming, but those thoughts are just me thinking out loud and clearing some suggestions for what could cause the death of what seems like two DTs. To summarize: Before our lynch we need to figure out 1. Who got hit last night. 2. figure out max mafia kills/formula 3. Figure out who those DTs(?) blues were talking to. If we can't figure out who they were talking to, we have to assume its a likely person to role check, and then be careful of any of the power players who have been active thus far. Happy LucaS? | ||
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But yeah, for the mafia thing, I meant ballpark how many kills the mafia gets on average. and I think 8 kills would be imba if they were one family, however if you remember in Ace's Mafia World game, there was 20 mafia and each night mafia got 20 hits. it was ridiculous. But they kept killing each other lol, its not that imba because they can kill each other accidentally as well. Also I am sure the mafia realized "Oh theres another family" when they reread the rules or were wondering why the hell their team was only comprised of 5-6 people. There is also a chance BC could of just told them that their was not just one mafia family. Now I am back to being curious to how the mafia killed two DTs and no one has anything to say about it. The only thing that makes some sense is maybe a skilled mafia convinced one of them if not both that he was innocent then killed them. The next possibility would be knowing one and luck hitting the other, barely anything is ever pure luck in this game. ugg :/ this game is not going so well, I feel like pyrr might of been a mouth for someone who was a mafia trying to avoid publicity. He was talking a lot and saying a lot. To me his posting seemed to show like he was speaking with and on behalf of other people like an attempt to form a town circle. However they were mafia :/ ohdaspeculationzzzz | ||
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On April 27 2009 11:02 3clipse wrote: Looked it up and you're right. Usually kills in under 2 hours. I still think this makes perfect sense. Could any other name be tied to accidental death? Maybe 3 lions, but that would be one hell of a stretch. My point was that if someone isn't familiar with the specifics of CO poisoning they might assume it's painful. It's just a general reference to gassing. But I suppose that would be selling BC short, he seems pretty bright. I agree with you here as well. Oh, really? I wasn't familiar with BC's method. In that case, the evidence against him isn't so heavy. Sorry I was so zealous, Monoxide. In light of this, I'll be changing my vote to Quickstriker. Regarding your general accusations against monxide. Yes, it is true that not all the clues can link to him, generally 1 kill = 1 mafia. But when a few seem to link to him as opposed to one, doesn't that seem like its a better chance we hit a mafia if we think 3 clues point to him as opposed to one? I still think QS is the best target, his posting is very mafiaish. And @monoxide. On April 27 2009 05:49 Monoxide wrote: Accidental death == CO poisoning?? now you're just making stuff up... Maybe I am reading out of context but, Carbon Monoxide poisoning is a common accidental death, one of my close friends actually died because of it last year. Apparently it has no scent, and if you leave a car on in a garage with a door closed, it will kill you even if you are in another room in your house. :O!!! So carbon monoxide poisoning happens pretty easily. Its why most houses have mononide detectors. However your post might be out of context. | ||
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Im voting lynch just based off that. .....you know and the other suspicious stuff! Can anyone tell me if what 0cz3c said is worth reading? In the other mafia games he posted the most retarded shit and I don't feel like wasting 5-10 minutes reading his essay if its another one of those random "I am going to accuse the enire town of being mafia and I also happen to be EVERY SINGLE ROLE IN THE GAME" posts. (that were ridiculous and colored) and just for the record, I don't consider the case of Monoxide to be weak at all, I think the accidental death clue links very well with him. However QS behavior and the clue links seem to be the best thing we have so far, so I will go with that. However I still think we need to consider Monoxide for possible next lynch candidate. | ||
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On April 29 2009 06:49 Vivi57 wrote: I vote to lynch BloodyC0bbler reason: inactivity lolol I don't think that there is no info to work with, so anyone using that excuse that we need to move to the next day and get more clues is probably a mafia who just wants to get to their night killing cycle  There is still a lot of debate over who is best to lynch. Off the clues and from whats going on, I don't believe Versatile is mafioso, however lynching her does now give us the MOST information. While I do think quickstriker and Monoxide have the best clues matching up to them, more information comes out of Versatile's death. So what would you guys prefer, more information or possible mafia kill? The only reason I would double lynch tonight is to get both QS and Monoxide to save the trouble of thinking about them any further. Then we would be able to focus on Versatile. and Ace, you know I can out debate you | ||
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Does that sound good? Also can anyone supply clues linking to versatile? Either way her lynch would either remove some suspicion from Ace/qatol or make them look guilty. If she was a mafioso, I don't think she would of made a spectacle like she did. It was not a smart move. However she would be a good self sacrificing townie. So Versatile, please post ANYTHING that could be useful later on if we choose to follow through with your lynch. I doubt your PMing with Ace will show much more anyway, and I am sure rest of the mafia now see you as being hot and would not want to associate themselves with you to stay away from accusations and suspicion. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.gif) True story. I meant regarding Ace and Qatol or conversations you had which would hopefully clarify your alliance and his. | ||
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I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment. | ||
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On April 30 2009 09:29 Versatile wrote: Maybe he's hoping that when I do flip green/blue, he can say "AHA! I told you not to lynch her! trust me now!". Or maybe he's hoping to win brownie points with me. Yeah. I like that one better =D haha oh man. Lets go with the latter!! post game cyber?!?!?! | ||
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On April 30 2009 12:09 L wrote: Its pretty simple. Until I noted that you were a better target than JeeJee, you weren't going to be lynched. Afterwards you were a grand total of ONE VOTE ahead of the other lynch target, and largely remain to be. If you had someone on your list switch to QS, everything i described would have happened. Now that doing so would reveal quite obviously that you're mafia and that your list-switcher are mafia, you won't do it to minimize the damage. You don't expect to survive NOW because I've pinned you to the wall. At this point you're a butterfly in a pin box, and when night rolls around and your red bleeds out this won't matter. But prior to said pinning, you were obviously dancing around trying to tell the other bees where the honey was at. I don't expect you to survive this lynch now either, and its pretty ridiculous that your longest and most content filled posts are only now that I've essentially assured that you die. Your prior defenses were obviously on the level of jokes which IS WHY NO ONE BOTHERED TEARING THEM DOWN. You knew this too. You admitted that you're a joke and just spamming around now, yet here you are replying seriously to me. All I can say is that when you turn out to be red, I'm going to have myself a good strut for the day. By morning we will know whether you are a retarded ass townie or a mafia who just really wants to die. Or super undercover mafia genius. | ||
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I SEE THROUGH YOUR LESS THAN CLEVER DISGUISE | ||
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lol also that is a lot of evidence you just put against me, sorry its not really for anything! I am but an innocent townie! Add some clue linkage to your post and we can talk lynching :O! But yeah, Lucas PM'd me and said I should be active and that I looked suspicious, I actually read his PM a little while before I was going to post anyway. As I said, I was busy at the time and was going to catch up to the thread on a certain day. Which I did do. Also you misinterpreted a few things which just happen to be my brand of sarcasm, there is plenty of stuff listed for why to lynch monoxide or QS. I was joking when I said lynch because his posting annoys me, which is why I used an exclamation point. But I will give you this, that is a nice post analysis and I can see how you would make all those interpretations. Just focus elsewhere, somewhere that you see clue evidence as well. | ||
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and no matter what she will die soon anyway, as it was said before, shes worth more to us dead than she is alive. Plus keep this in mind, there are TWO mafia families. Each has about 4 members. I would say 4-6 each. They don't have a single mafia family with 10 people. They don't really have the man power to keep her alive, I think her vote lead is at 4 and she is most likely already voting against someone else. To put it simply, the town would literally have to be strait out of The Ringer to blindly trust her after some suspicious shit like that, along with the god fathers ability to cloak. Plus its godfather, not godmother. U gotz ta b a fewl naught 2 realize dat iz impossibal!! | ||
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and Ace, you know I just try to kill you off of principle every game. Its just gotta happen. count yourself likely I aint no vigi + Show Spoiler + OR AMI????? | ||
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Then We should medic protect BOTH Caller and the DT heavily for the first night, until the DT can perform another role check on someone who caller and himself believe to be innocent. If the rolecheck confirms it they share all the information with that individual and that person DOES NOT go public or become known to anyone. We want the mafia guessing on who it could be. Then when we can finally get the town coordinated and try to figure out ways to prove who is what and who is who and coordinate efforts to figure out who the fuck the mafia is. We need to do this very fast peepz | ||
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Too many votes for him now though :/ Also what the fuck is with the inactives coming out of the woodwork for this? | ||
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I say we double lynch JeeJee and Qatol today. You mother fuckers are dead. | ||
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This is a list of medic protection candidates.
From what I can remember, these are the only people who have been useful active and seemingly town aligned recently. If anyone else comes to mind I will quote and edit the list. | ||
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This is a list of medic protection candidates.
I was tired when I wrote the first one, sorry cam. | ||
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stupid town. | ||
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On May 05 2009 22:07 Camlito wrote: Also, that "essay" i writ was 4,074 words in word at first. Then editing came in lol. QUOTE YOUR ESSAY TO THIS PAGE. I don't feel like searching. Spoiler tag it~~ | ||
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PSSST..... VIGI HIT THIS MOTHER FUCKER! | ||
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NOW AM SAD. | ||
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On May 06 2009 03:10 Mynock wrote: Isn't it enough that I'll die tonight by a Mafia hit? Its just a security measure! Remember? Mafia hits override vigi hits! Its just in case they miss <3 | ||
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And love letters <3 | ||
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I figure kill Qatol and vote for double lynch and hope we nail two tomorrow. :/ I should of jumped on the lynch Qatol band wagon a day ago. Might of killed his bitch ass. I also find it odd that no mafia hits are overlapping yet. I also think any remaining Vigi's should hit Mynock and Monoxide tonight. Mynock you quoted random clues and pointed them to people without giving an explanation. If any contract killers are around, PM me or Malongo and maybe we can make a deal. I know it doesn't hold much weight, but if you work with us we won't kill you!!! Plus maybe you want to see if you can help overcome the predicament we are currently in. It would be an epic comeback. I can assure any CK that both me and Malongo are innocent. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/14.jpg?1162781569) Last time I checked, this image wasn't of Ver. It was of you. | ||
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On May 07 2009 07:46 Caller wrote: I'm 70% sure that the CK used a cluecheck here I'm also 70% sure that each group is kills-3 from each mafia. I'm almost 90% sure that Monoxide is scum here from that clue. I'm also pretty sure 3clipse is mafia, as we see the 3 theme again (three men burst into the room). Incognito's killer I'm 90% sure is Hyperbola. The mafia in question dives down, under Incognito, and back up. Sure it may be more of a parabola, but the weirdness is clearly a clue, and it could very well be a hyperbola. That's all I know. in the meantime i suggest we kill Monoxide, 3clipse, and Hyperbola. Yeah, I read it. And Incognito began to get into a brawl with his opponent, sending blows back and forth. The fight lasted only moments though, as the mafia dropped down, and darted under Incognito’s assault, and as rose behind the town member, he let his wire fly around [g]incognito’s[/g] throat, and with a bit of work, incognitos head was rolling along the floor. 3 lions was hugging the back wall, trying to avoid each attack , but the man he was fighting was phased by the cowardice, he held a lance up then charged, sliding his weapon easily into [g]3 lions[/g] ribcage, leaving the man sprawled in a bloody heap. I think these better apply to Monoxide. If you look at his icon its this ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/25473.gif?1182201485) My logic here is that while both clues most likely do NOT point to him, I would guess that at least one could. If we look at this first one, it says that the suspect mafioso dropped down and darted under incognito's assault the DT in the pic seems to move in a fast motion. If we think a little more the fight lasted only moments, generally when you fight a DT the fight ends quick. It has low life and high attack. Kills drones fast and has a blade that could sever a head. However I also don't know how the wire fits in. That's the only part that wouldn't fit in, however the head rolling could correlate with a DT slash? Just a thought. The second one was also a vague reference to a DT, it could refer to the DTs sword as a lance I would think. Also when you kill a drone it leaves a bloody mess similar to girls maxy pad on her period. The hyperbola one is good I suppose, I don't think its as strong, but whatever you think. I admit to not have much attention to previous days clues because I was lazy and didn't feel like clue interpreting, but I read that one related to suicide or accidental death? Which can link to Monoxide as well. The only thing I noticed that contradicts this is some of the clues seem to repeat, like the Arrow one. I am trying to figure out how hes writing clues, hopefully not too little too late. | ||
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Also I got hit last night, I guess scamp was the one who protected me? Thanks if so. Guess I can't find out now. this towns in too much Chaos, but I encourage votes on Mynock and Monoxide. Feel free to interchange one of those with Ver. If we don't get at least one mafia just call the game. I might change my votes if I do some clue analysis. | ||
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On May 08 2009 07:01 Mynock wrote: Unless you actually have something on me (Behaviour? Don't think so. Visor? Not anymore. Row of teeth? How many times till u get that mynocks have none?) vote together with everybody else or go your own way and look damn suspicious in the process. Okay, I will vote change to 3clipse and Ver. | ||
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Edit: Nothing personal Ver | ||
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On May 08 2009 07:49 So no fek wrote: I retract my vote for the double lynch. On May 08 2009 07:49 HeavOnEarth wrote: I retract my vote for double lynch Yeah, probably going to kill both of you tomorrow. | ||
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Was there two mafias? | ||
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And I kind of knew Ver was mafia. I didn't entirely trust him especially after some of his massive post. I didn't think there was 8 mafia each family. | ||
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On May 09 2009 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: eh, remember, he only talked to you, he never tried to infiltrate the town circle(to my knowledge) which increases his chance of finding people. But yeah, having ck's hunt down eachother could be interesting. Well I finally got to reading most of the thread now. But yeah, I think there were a few issues that combined to fuck us over the most. Since we had a mafioso mayor we didn't have any way to really get communicating or establish a circle. To my knowledge there really was no town circle. I know me and Malongo talked a bit, and we were probably two of the most active townies. The other problem was Exam season. That lovely month period (Depending on when your school ends) that effects many players and gives mafia ways to hide when they are not actually inactive. Its sucks, but its either my second or third game that was during an exam season. It kills us. I had a lot of stuff to do and really didn't have the time to read everyone's post and read deeply and analyze game play. I basically skimmed posts tried to do what seemed right and when we basically knew Qatol was mafia I was kind of hoping against hope he wasn't, but knew  Also Ace, urmudda I knew there was 2 mafia's after the Bockit kill rofl? whatchuu talkin bout? I think we definitely n eed to start the next game in about a week or two, when the exam excuses are gone. I think we should Require voting, whether its abstaining or trying to kill someone. (I do however think abstaining votes should NOT count against the town if there is a double lynch vote) | ||
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Simple enough to allow the town to gain trust or find someone out. But not direct enough where you get the powerful alliances really fast or figure out mafias real fast. I think its a good balance between role finder and role checks. Also I demand a petition for the mafia forum! | ||
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