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Qatol: In the turn of events I think vigilantes have cero interest in killing Ace at this point. As you said he is actually suspect of being mafia (as you are too). However viging Ace is not the best choice and you know it: the best choice is by a far margin to
HIT Quickstriker. Why?
- His dead gives us much more information regarding another player (note that vigis on ace tell us 0 info about any other player whatever the color he turns). Im talking about... lets guess... QATOL. As you are the one that "literally" didnt kill him at the beggining and lynched inertinept with a rather mediocre analisis (at least compared to mine about Quickstriker) and the one that literally lynched versatile over him last day (and note that you never EVER thougth about voting him, you switched from JeeJee to versatile after JeeJees saving campaign) the town needs to flip him. Period. What im saying is: If I was the Inocent Mayor in this case with all the evidence and some doubts on me i would be literally asking in my knees that a vigi or mafia flip him, literally.
- About Ace: why a vigi in his sense would want to hit a player that already has as much exposure as Ace? He claimed taking a hit, even if that is false and he is mafia hes going to eventually get another hit from the same side. Not just that: he claimed green and now he claimed medic, can you follow me? Do you think mafia looking the other family or a blue dont want to hit him? With all the things Ace told about versatile if hes not dead by night 5/6 from mafia you can lynch him almost without doubt. But now vigis should have 0 interest in fliping Ace 0.
Im again quite surprised that you, a good player, are not telling this to the town, and that a puny little player like me has to take these small notes.
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you 2 are kidding right?
Mayor gets elected with an overwhelming number of quick votes.
Puts blame on me for getting Versatile lynched when he placed all votes for her - and didn't I say this would happen?
Tried to get JeeJee lynched on shit evidence and then switched to appear favorable to the town.
Now he's making a medic list and leaving me off of it even though I've already taken a hit.
He's playing really fucked up. Seriously how can you keep saying "oh there goes another small suspicion, ok I'm 80% sure he's mafia" - No. The guy is clearly dirty. Lynch him tomorrow.
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On May 01 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:
you 2 are kidding right?
Mayor gets elected with an overwhelming number of quick votes.
Puts blame on me for getting Versatile lynched when he placed all votes for her - and didn't I say this would happen?
Tried to get JeeJee lynched on shit evidence and then switched to appear favorable to the town.
Now he's making a medic list and leaving me off of it even though I've already taken a hit.
He's playing really fucked up. Seriously how can you keep saying "oh there goes another small suspicion, ok I'm 80% sure he's mafia" - No. The guy is clearly dirty. Lynch him tomorrow.
Are you trying to say something about me Ace? Come on get your points straight. I said almost the same as you did.
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as soon as the versatile situation ended badly, ace INSTA started accusing a bunch of other people.
he's such a powerful poster too that killing him would make out lynches much better if he is mafia
ace, do you have any clue evidence that qatol is mafia?
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I just posted it. what the hell? What do you want a DT role reveal?
Who did I accuse except Qatol?
go ahead, I'll wait. You really need to read my posts carefully. The only person I've accused in the entire game of being mafia is Qatol.
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On May 01 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:
you 2 are kidding right?
Mayor gets elected with an overwhelming number of quick votes.
Puts blame on me for getting Versatile lynched when he placed all votes for her - and didn't I say this would happen?
Tried to get JeeJee lynched on shit evidence and then switched to appear favorable to the town.
Now he's making a medic list and leaving me off of it even though I've already taken a hit.
He's playing really fucked up. Seriously how can you keep saying "oh there goes another small suspicion, ok I'm 80% sure he's mafia" - No. The guy is clearly dirty. Lynch him tomorrow.
Ace no one was there to really oppose him for running for mayor.
The evidence for almost everyone could be considered near shit and I didn't see you trying to protect anyone else when there was shit evidence on them.
The fact you didn't vote for Versatile could mean this
-You could be mafia but you're not stupid to vote for someone you know isn't going to turn red
Even though you say you took a hit. There is no way to prove you are mafia just lying and just taking advantage of the lack of proof we can have since we can't do med team up cause there are 2 mafia families out there.
You even voted for quickstriker in claims to make the votes a draw to protect jeejee but instead you made quickstriker have the lead to be lynched. You didn't even say if you believed in the evidence or not, all you wanted to do it seems was to protect Jeejee.
I will say this. I am not pleased that extra votes were used on versatile he could of gone with less votes. I guess he wanted to guarantee versatile was lynched to get information.
But in the end, that information means it's between you and him now.
So if we lynch you and you turn out red, well you played well as mafia.
If you flip green, well I don't think things will look good for Qatol.
Now if Qatol flips green, well you even did a better job as mafia or your just a shit ass townie.
If Qatol flips red. Well I guess I would owe you an apology but would ask you to give more information for the future. I can't just go flat out trusting your word every time.
The question is, who would be more beneficial to lynch for the town when that time comes?
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my bad, I thought you accused molongo
seriously though, your behavior is so much more likely mafia than qatol
you swing the votes towards versatile then go off blaming qatol. After the versatile incident, you're in NO position to accuse anyone.
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I didn't swing the votes stop trying to pin it on me. This is not "between me and Qatol". This isn't a "if this guy flips then this guy is guilty" scenario. No wonder no one tells you two anything important you are WAY OFF on your thinking. Read my posts again. Read Qatol's posts right after. If you think I voted swung votes for Versatile then why wouldn't I vote for her if I really wanted her dead? Duh? The one guy I said I didn't want to see lynched above all was JeeJee so obviously I would vote to make sure he doesn't get lynched. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE NOW?
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ace is mafia DOES THIS MAKE SENSE NOW?
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I don't think anyone believes versatile would accuse you for no reason ace.
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I think they could both be mafia, but the case for Qatol is certianly stronger. Plus we could potentially rolecheck Ace (if our remaining DT's are active) but Qatol is immune. Maybe the next day's clues will reveal something that will change the game, but at this point I would lynch Qatol.
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I'm still curious about Tricode's post last page, regarding one of Ver's post.
On April 28 2009 12:00 Versatile wrote:
Let me explain about Ace.
He thinks he's a great mafia player. He kinda is. But I know his playing style, and I've already caught one of his tells; he's done in a few of the conversations we've had already. I'm not going to tell you all what it is because if I did.....well, would I still be special? (just a lil' sarcasm, folks).
The only reason I didn't raise the red flag before is because I didn't want to alarm him and cause my death even faster.
Secondly, I've been talking to Ace on and off for days. He is one person who can confirm I didn't even know the game started until more than 48hrs into it. He chose not to do that though. Instead, he chose to add to the suspicion of me, and didn't bother to tell you all that we've had other conversations, so it is definitely not unusually for me to be on another board and not this one. Hell, I only come here for mafia.
Either way, I'm perfectly content with dying. Hopefully though, someone pays attention to my posts afterward.
I left out the "Dell" part from Tricode's post, so no more dodging 
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On May 01 2009 13:27 Ace wrote:
I didn't swing the votes stop trying to pin it on me. This is not "between me and Qatol". This isn't a "if this guy flips then this guy is guilty" scenario. No wonder no one tells you two anything important you are WAY OFF on your thinking. Read my posts again. Read Qatol's posts right after. If you think I voted swung votes for Versatile then why wouldn't I vote for her if I really wanted her dead? Duh? The one guy I said I didn't want to see lynched above all was JeeJee so obviously I would vote to make sure he doesn't get lynched. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE NOW?
Look dude. Yeah you're right it's not if one guy is green the other guy is red. but if Qatol turns green, I rather kill you off just cause you helped move the vote away from Versatile.
I don't know if you are just trying to pick parts of what we say that you think would benefit you or what, but I said I don't think your stupid enough to vote for Versatile. If you are mafia, you know she most likely isn't or your taking a chance that she might be other mafia team.
Either case, it would be best for you not to vote her, cause everyone else is doing it for you after whether you intentionally or not helped versatile become prime lynch. Either case if you noticed that, why not vote someone else! That would be the smart thing. Unless you are saying if you were mafia you would be stupid and vote for her to get caught in such a trap!
Yeah, obviously you don't want Jeejee to get lynched for w/e reason! For all we know both of you are mafia and you don't want killing power to go down!
Stop acting stupid about why not voting for her if you wanted her to die! If you are mafia I don't think you care if she dies or not as long as you and your team survive and keep killing townies.
And for all we know your thought pattern was don't vote for her (if mafia once again) and when she turns green/blue people won't suspect you? If you're mafia you don't want to be caught, why make a stupid move like that?
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I didn't want to post this right now because talking about me is unimportant to night actions. However, you just won't let the issue go. Ace, for the last time
1. VERSATILE CALLED YOU OUT
2. SHE FLIPPED BLUE
3. SHE KNOWS YOU BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS GAME
4. THEREFORE YOU ARE A SUSPECT
How hard is that to understand?
The election
If you look at my early voters, you will notice that the early people to vote for me were:
1. People who have worked with me previously (Ver, LTT,Incognito) - They likely felt they could get a good read on me if mafia and that I would be a solid leader if town.
2. A first-come first-serve player (malongo) - Voted for reasons outside the game.
3. A random zombie vote (Heavonearth) - Fishy, but we get players who are like this every game.
4. Someone who voted for me based on my reputation (Truthbringer) - I have a solid reputation. He wanted a strong leader.
When did I EVER blame getting Versatile lynched on you? Please show me the post.
I presented JeeJee as someone who was far more inactive than usual. He showed up after that and basically hasn't stopped accusing me of being mafia ever since. How do mafia react to being accused? That's right, they generally are very aggressive about finding a different target. Why did I switch my votes? Because the town learns more from Versatile's words than from JeeJee's.
Why would the mafia ever even THINK about hitting you now? That makes 0 sense. YOU ARE A SUSPECT. One would hope the mafia have learned their lesson from last game. Because the mafia would have to be stupid to hit you at this point, why should we put a medic on you?
With that in mind, I think the vigilantes might want to take a look at the 2 suspects that versatile left behind: You and me. Let's see.... 1 lynch, we want to reduce mafia KP as fast as we can, and I can't be killed except by lynch. Yep, that looks to me like you should be vigi-killed and I should be lynched.
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Are we double lynching? if so then lets get both qatol and ace XDDDD
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On May 01 2009 13:53 Vivi57 wrote:
ffs just vigi kill ace
thats a waste, why would we do that
save ur vigi kills or use it on quickstriker
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On May 01 2009 13:50 Caller wrote:
Are we double lynching? if so then lets get both qatol and ace XDDDD
don't think double lynch got passed, did it?
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Err to my previous post i said something that i didn't fully finish of why i would rather lynch ace, its more then just helping move the votes to versatile. sorry about.
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On May 01 2009 13:49 Qatol wrote:
I didn't want to post this right now because talking about me is unimportant to night actions. However, you just won't let the issue go. Ace, for the last time
1. VERSATILE CALLED YOU OUT
2. SHE FLIPPED BLUE
3. SHE KNOWS YOU BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS GAME
4. THEREFORE YOU ARE A SUSPECT
How hard is that to understand?
Um...Versatile has never been able to catch my playing style. How can you go off of that bs info like that guarantees I'm mafia? So someone says "hey I know how this guy plays, I think he's mafia", then dies flips innocent and then we all go OH SHIT THEY WERE RIGHT!?
No. Mafia doesn't work like that. Versatile's death has no bearings on my status because ding - she can't possibly know my role because she wasn't a DT. This post right here just cements you as guilty.
The town doesn't learn anything from Versatile's death - why? Because she is connected with no one. We actually learned more about you because you vote switched to try and appear siding with the town. Hi, Mr. Mafia want some pie?
as for the rest - tl;dr.
I'm also no longer responding to posts that try to make something out that isn't there.
Ace's list of people who are invisible posters
Tri-Code (obviously)
Vivi69 (obviously, part 2)
Ozc (for good measure)
Caller (gotta be wary of jedi mind tricks)
RoL (I owe him $$, gotta be on the safe side)
Qatol (he's mafia, I don't talk to mafia people)
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