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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 17 2008 05:42 GMT
#201
Fuck I'm not a hooker.

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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 17 2008 05:43 GMT
#202
On November 17 2008 14:42 Empyrean wrote:
Fuck I'm not a hooker.



But your a mafia!

LYNCH HIM

(Just a wild guess here.)
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
November 17 2008 05:45 GMT
#203
have roles gone out yet? cuz i aint got nothing.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 17 2008 05:46 GMT
#204
So are there nine mafia for each side? He's not very clear in that :/
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Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
November 17 2008 05:46 GMT
#205
Also, I think whoever is elected Mayor should go ahead and implement Ace's Bodyguard Plan. For those who don't know what the BG plan is, here:

The Bodyguard Plan (fully revised)

This is a strategy I've used in the past to win games, and it works very well if even a slight majority of the main players involved use it.

The base of this plan lends itself to the fact that no innocent Townie knows for sure who else is innocent or what roles they are. Also is the fact that the main disadvantage the Town has is lack of information, whereas our main advantage is numbers. Combining these two things is the Bodyguard Plan.

At the start of the game, the only non-Mafia/elected roles that any other player can possibly know for sure is a Bodyguard. The Mayor receives this info once elected into office. This plan is best with an innocent Mayor, but it also forces a Mafia Mayor to help the town in the event he/she is ever elected.

When the Mayor is elected, their first plan of action should be to PM all the Bodyguards each other's identities. This pus information into the hands of the Townies that is critical.

Assume there are 7 bodyguards. The Mayor PMs all of them the identity of the other 6. All of them then PM each other to

1: confirm they got a PM stating they are the bodyguard from the Mayor
2: make sure they ALL have the same list of Bodyguards

In the case of an Innocent Mayor doing this, we have 7 townies all on the same side off the jump and this will be a major help to the Town if they all know the roles of 6 other innocents asap.

In the case of a Mafia Mayor he could actually try and add a Mafia member to the list of Bodyguards or ignore a real Bodyguard - and this is where the true failsafe in the plan comes in.

Failsafe:

Remember, all Bodyguards SHOULD get that PM. If any of the Bodyguards don't get it then they should know something is clearly fishy and should investigate hastily.
The Mayor would be investigated from Day 1, so the Town will know for sure if he/she is innocent or not which will allow the Bodyguards to know they can or can't trust the Mayor. If the Mayor turns out dirty, the Bodyguards will clearly speak up asap. If the Mayor is legit, then that Bodyguard list is 100% legit and ensures we have a solid base to start from because the Detectives stay silent.

In summary the idea of this plan is self checking:

Bodyguards are checked by each other and Mayor with the PMs
Mayor is checked by Detectives

Detectives stay silent if the Mayor is legit, and speak up if he is Mafia

If ANY Detective speaks up against the Mayor and we can't decide whether or not who to believe, we go to the ultimatum approach - just lynch the DT first and if he is telling the truth the Mayor is Mafia. Boom - Mafia Mayor gone by the second day.

If the Mayor tends to be Mafia and releases a corrupted list, then the BGs will speak up and name the people on the list. The DTs paying attention to this, investigate the names. The Mafia will have added just thrown some of their members into a trap and will get figured out eventually.

In the case of an innocent Mayor this 100% guarantees us safety, in the case of a Mafia Mayor it takes us at worst 2 days to clean up the mess. This is my plan of action to start the game off.


In the event the list is released publicly, the best part of this plan is that the spotlight is taken off of the Detectives and put on the Bodyguards. This allows the Detectives to stay quiet, and for the Medics to have a list of people they need to watch. Remember what I stated earlier - the Town's main disadvantage is that we lack information and this plan serves to rectify that while maximizing our main advantage - numbers.

Once the base has been formed (Mayors + Bodyguards) we can start generating a list of suspects together, and figuring out roles down the road. To succeed the Town needs a strong start, and this plan is one of such. Once you are assured of my innocence through the Detective's silence, then you should PM me your roles so we can get started.


I'm not sure if the effectiveness of this is compromised with the addition of another Mafia family, but I thought it was at least worth mentioning so that it's up for discussion.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 17 2008 05:47 GMT
#206
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 17 2008 05:47 GMT
#207
roles are still going out. I had to edit some, and apparently I had a guy on the list who of players and I dont see his posts in this thread anymore. (Incognito)
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 17 2008 05:53 GMT
#208
Well you should clear up whether there are 5 mafia for each side or 9 mafia for each side. Your first post is worded kind of ambiguously.

Also, the traitor is such a fucking whore role. All he has to do is PM each of the mafia so they know it's him, then as a townie, he could just argue for the mafia's innocence and stuff. Why not just make it a mafia role that shows up town when investigated? Honestly, he's basically another Godfather.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
November 17 2008 05:54 GMT
#209
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.

This would be sick, this is what they did last game of mafia by chuiu aswell
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 17 2008 05:56 GMT
#210
Emp the first post makes it CLEARLY obvious how many mafia there are. Just count.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 17 2008 06:05 GMT
#211
Eagerly awaiting!
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
November 17 2008 06:05 GMT
#212
"Mafia Killing Power = each Mafia has 1 hit." meaning two a night total, or each member gets a hit?
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 06:06:28
November 17 2008 06:05 GMT
#213
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).

Edit: I meant to quote Versatile oops. But it still works as a response to you too.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 17 2008 06:06 GMT
#214
On November 17 2008 15:05 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).


not to mention AoC mayor, though that's way more obvious
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 06:09:13
November 17 2008 06:08 GMT
#215
So how do we actually manage to kill the Godfather?

EDIT: Like, what if he doesn't send in his hits so no clues go to him?
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Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
November 17 2008 06:09 GMT
#216
godfather is immuned to alignment reveals. HOWEVER, he is NOT immuned to being checked by DTs via clues.

ie- "does clue A point to *insert player name here* as mafia?"

depending on if it did, ace would answer yes, and boom! there's your GF/GM.

@ydg: if mafia had only 2 kills PERIOD we'd be playing until next year. Ace already said up to 20 townies can die per night. So yes, each family has 10 hits per night.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 06:11:19
November 17 2008 06:10 GMT
#217
On November 17 2008 15:08 Empyrean wrote:
So how do we actually manage to kill the Godfather?

EDIT: Like, what if he doesn't send in his hits so no clues go to him?


im guessing he still appears on vote checks. also clue analysis and post analysis. he will just be a tough nut to crack, that is all!

e: also what Versatile said.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
November 17 2008 06:13 GMT
#218
On November 17 2008 15:05 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).

Edit: I meant to quote Versatile oops. But it still works as a response to you too.



It can still be affective against the GF/GM though. I don't actually remember the last game I played without that role in affect, lol. There are definitely ways to trip them up. Especially if there are inexperienced GF/GMs in this game.

and yeah, if the GF/GMs don't kill, that presents a problem for the town. (thanks for giving them the idea!)

/sarcasm
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 17 2008 06:16 GMT
#219
On November 17 2008 15:05 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).

Edit: I meant to quote Versatile oops. But it still works as a response to you too.

I seriously doubt there would ever be a godfather mayor since mafia will probably be trying to AoCs elected.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 17 2008 06:18 GMT
#220
Ok, I'm going to sleep.

I'll check back on this thread in the morning, but vote for me if nothing else but for my experience in these types of games.
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