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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 17 2008 06:22 GMT
#221
I guess we can't totally be sure but what can we do to minimize the risk of voting in a mafia mayor? Is it just sort of a crapshoot? I've never played mafia before (or I played like once in grade school I think and we had a hell of a lot fewer roles, i dunno if there was even a mayor) so I have no idea how to choose who to vote for! :-S
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 17 2008 06:24 GMT
#222
On November 17 2008 15:16 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 15:05 Ver wrote:
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).

Edit: I meant to quote Versatile oops. But it still works as a response to you too.

I seriously doubt there would ever be a godfather mayor since mafia will probably be trying to AoCs elected.


The Godfather will show up as a towny though, the AoC will be caught by a role check. At most he can suicide himself to kill 4 bodyguards, but that's more beneficial to the other family than his own. It's still better for the mafia to have a Godfather elected imo.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 17 2008 06:26 GMT
#223
Man, i've got to start paying more attention to these threads. this is the second signup that I just managed to miss (I think, it's way the heck after 9 pm eastern >.>)
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 17 2008 06:28 GMT
#224
Yep. Too bad water, ace has been handing out roles for awhile now.

And its 1:30 am eastern.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 17 2008 06:28 GMT
#225
On November 17 2008 15:24 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 15:16 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 17 2008 15:05 Ver wrote:
On November 17 2008 14:47 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, by the way, vote for me for mayor, mainly since I've been playing these games for a long time and I know what to do. Basically, we're going to try and set up the net of blues like when Ace was mayor.


This game is different though, with the addition of the godfather. Ace's old foolproof autowin plan no longer holds fully true in all cases.

Not saying that we shouldn't do it, but there clearly is a very real risk now (a godfather mayor).

Edit: I meant to quote Versatile oops. But it still works as a response to you too.

I seriously doubt there would ever be a godfather mayor since mafia will probably be trying to AoCs elected.


The Godfather will show up as a towny though, the AoC will be caught by a role check. At most he can suicide himself to kill 4 bodyguards, but that's more beneficial to the other family than his own. It's still better for the mafia to have a Godfather elected imo.

Actually, that makes sense. Kind of makes me wonder what the point of adding the AoC role to the game is... It'd be cool if it was like a one-persyn army role like the Joker who comes in and just fucks with everyone mafia and not and can only be killed by the Batman role... and the Batman could get killed normally and if anyone role checks him he gets demasked and loses his power. And that would be stupid and that's why I'm not running a mafia game.
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
November 17 2008 06:29 GMT
#226
Pyrrhuloxia, honestly, the best thing to do is vote in a SMART Mayor. A good player. Read some of the games on here, and make an assement of playing skill.

For example: Ace is a great player. Mafia or not, I'd want him in office. You know when he is looking out for the town and if he isn't, you know he's mafia and it's time to get him out.

With a smart Mayor you can actually make a clearer judgement on the decisions he/she makes. With a not-so-smart Mayor with bad logic and reasoning skills, they can fall back on their shortcomings. Also, if a smart Mayor is making decisions that are not to the benefit of the town, you know you have to boot them out.

Mafia or not, we need a good player in office. If they're mafia, their intentions become clear and we can get them out of there hopefully by Day 2.

Stupidity and bad decision-making hurt the town enormously.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 17 2008 06:32 GMT
#227
Godfather mayor would be much much more deadly than an Agent of Chaos mayor. AoC mayor merely gets a bunch of free kills and makes the office of mayor useless (and helps the other family more than his own), while a Godfather mayor can lead the town and even the other family astray for some time, depending on how skilled they are.

Also I don't believe there are vote checks. It's gonna be pretty tricky for town but I got faith. I think there should be a considerable effort to

There is no way to really get good information before the election is over unless someone can think up a really elaborate scheme to bait information out (I got nothing, sorry). The intelligent way to go about this is to vote for whichever Mayor has the best plan. Since there's no real way to determine alliegances this early, we may as well go for the odds and elect the top mayor.
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Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
November 17 2008 06:36 GMT
#228
@ Ver: DTs have ONE vote check.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 17 2008 06:37 GMT
#229
Boo I forgot to finish my post in the middle. In the spirit of no editing, I meant to say that we should explore ways to get the Mafia families to fight each other to give the town some breathing space. As this is a new format to me (dual families) I don't have any ideas at the moment, but surely we can exploit this mechanism to net the town extra gain.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 17 2008 06:38 GMT
#230
On November 17 2008 15:36 Versatile wrote:
@ Ver: DTs have ONE vote check.


Ah thank you. I hadn't read the fully revised rules, my apologies.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 17 2008 06:38 GMT
#231
Everyone signed up should have gotten a PM by now!

If you did not get a PM let me know ASAP!
Read the OP to make sure you are up to date on how ALL the roles work.
PM me any questions you may have, or anything that needs clearing up.

Also, if Vigis and Mafia hit the same target, Mafia hits take precedence and the Vigi hit is saved for another time.

Mafia also don't lose kills due to any of them dying in the middle of the night. The kill will go through as normal.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 17 2008 06:39 GMT
#232
It is quite obvious that Godfather would be beneficial for mafia to get into office. The chances that the Godfather is someone who could reasonably get into office (if ace was playing again) is quite slim. The chances of getting an AOC in is marginally higher since there are two.

And I'm pretty sure that whoever gets elected would use some form of Ace's old plan. It has been proven too effective not to be used.

As to two families, that is a new aspect for me, it should make the game entertaining if nothing else.

Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 06:42:05
November 17 2008 06:40 GMT
#233
Voting for Mayor starts now!

Voting ends at around 3 AM Eastern Tuesday Morning/Late Monday Night.

That's about 25 hours and 20 minutes from now.

Let the games begin!

edit to add: No one can use any powers before the Mayor voting since it's not Day 1 yet. So no Capo or DT acts yet.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 17 2008 06:41 GMT
#234
random i think there are 4 aoc's, 2 per family. and i think the 2 family dynamic will be really interesting, albeit confusing...
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 17 2008 06:42 GMT
#235
On November 17 2008 15:40 Ace wrote:
Voting for Mayor starts now!

Voting ends at around 3 AM Eastern Tuesday Morning/Late Monday Night.

That's about 25 hours and 20 minutes from now.

Let the games begin!

edit to add: No one can use any powers before the Mayor voting since it's not Day 1 yet. So no Capo or DT acts yet.

i havent gotten a PM yet T_T
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 17 2008 06:44 GMT
#236
Well, time for bed, I'll catch up on this later.

Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 17 2008 06:46 GMT
#237
On November 17 2008 15:42 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2008 15:40 Ace wrote:
Voting for Mayor starts now!

Voting ends at around 3 AM Eastern Tuesday Morning/Late Monday Night.

That's about 25 hours and 20 minutes from now.

Let the games begin!

edit to add: No one can use any powers before the Mayor voting since it's not Day 1 yet. So no Capo or DT acts yet.

i havent gotten a PM yet T_T


That's part of aces plan!
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 07:20:57
November 17 2008 06:55 GMT
#238
Edit: Nothing
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-17 07:11:52
November 17 2008 07:01 GMT
#239
VOTE FOR ME FOR MAYOR

I've been playing mafia for 3 games in a row now. This is my fourth.
I have the experience.

Of all four games, counting this, I am innocent THREE Times now. I can promise you the best for the town and will always be willing to do whatever the town wishes.

For the past three games, I've really done nothing to help my side, just vote and watch, really. This time I want to make a change and ultimately, lead the town to victory.

So vote for me! I won't fail to deliver.
make the right choice.
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softer
Profile Joined January 2005
Norway104 Posts
November 17 2008 07:02 GMT
#240
And the games begin -_-
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