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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
October 25 2008 07:43 GMT
#38
Signing up! Hopefully I'll live past day 3 this time...
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 01 2008 04:05 GMT
#224
On November 01 2008 13:03 Chezinu wrote:
Give me mine!
edit: ill wait if you are going in some order


The mafia are being saved for last. So you haven't gotten yours yet huh....
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 01 2008 04:11 GMT
#226
+ Show Spoiler +
It was a joke.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 02 2008 20:15 GMT
#430
You guys have already done a ton of work on this, I'm impressed.

I like the idea of lynching an inactive, although we'll probably just kill a green towny that saw his role and immediately stopped caring. At least the blues will probably be active, although that didn't hold true at the beginning of last game...
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 03 2008 20:58 GMT
#716
Folca is either really dumb or brilliant. I'm leaning towards the former.

## I vote to lynch Ace.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 04 2008 01:03 GMT
#751
On November 04 2008 09:34 Bockit wrote:
At the moment the fact that you are a detective or not is worthless. If you are a detective, you are going to die before you can use your ability again.


The mafia will have to use more of their killing power to take him down if he's a DT because of potential paramedics, and he may even live. I think it's extremely unlikely that the suicide bomber would take himself out of the game on the first night, even if it makes strategic sense to take the risk.

I still think outing himself as a DT on the first day was a bad decision, but at least it has given us a ton of posts to analyze for later on. This is much better than taking a shot in the dark on day 1 clues.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 04 2008 07:21 GMT
#894
You guys that voted for Folca suck.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 04 2008 07:59 GMT
#896
I realize it was thought of earlier, but Folca also knew that. Having the plan in place did its job without having to follow through with lynching him over Ace. Oh well, this should still end well for us.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 06 2008 06:08 GMT
#1066
4 deaths, all greens. Nice.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 06 2008 21:14 GMT
#1176
# I vote to lynch Ace
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 07 2008 07:32 GMT
#1281
On November 07 2008 15:44 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 15:38 XCetron wrote:
On November 07 2008 15:37 fanatacist wrote:
On November 07 2008 15:35 Jimtudor wrote:
On November 07 2008 15:03 Jimtudor wrote:
And certainly not roles, i never said that. If you do, I just said analysis or anything you want to say anonymously. Why would anyone pm their roles to me.


Lol, that's ironic of course now that i look at it. Just why the hell would anyone pm roles to strangers....sigh.

Is this some elaborate facade to make us believe you're a vet and not a mafia? Because it's kind of failing.


Ace said hes a vet.

Lol... You start a sentence with "Ace said..." and you expect me to believe anything that follows?


Exactly. If Ace "knows" I'm a detective, why'd I live through the first night? I've posted absolutely nothing besides a vote for him since then so it's not like I left any clues. Ace is good at this so trying to reason through his posts to glean any information is a crap shoot that isn't worth risking. Don't believe anything he says.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 09 2008 23:09 GMT
#1461
On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.

Another person should soon confirm the same message.

Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia.

That would be
    Mandalor
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Amber[LighT]
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely.
So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too.


What doesn't make sense is why the mafia would kill 2 people on that list. Mandalor was making some good posts, but Amber?

How about this scenario:
Mafia claims he's a DT and messages Mynock about the decaf list. Mynock posts the information he received and becomes an obvious target, hopefully drawing medic protection. Mafia takes a risk with the suicide bomber to get some medics.

Now, how much of a risk is claiming to be a detective when you're going to kill the person you told the next night? It's extremely unlikely that Mynock was going to out the informant, and now he's dead. Although they're obviously hoping that Mynock doesn't just PM someone now. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take that chance.

It would make sense that nemy suicided himself as part of a plan and not just as an opportunity, but perhaps the mafia thought the alliteration clues were going to nail him?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 10 2008 01:58 GMT
#1486
Joining the bandwagon. I think Scorch is clear.

## I vote for MidnightGladius
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 10 2008 04:06 GMT
#1532
On November 10 2008 12:40 fanatacist wrote:
Here is what I suspect is happening:

DT PMs fusionsdf, tells him he is DT. Tells him the roles of people he has checked. Whether he checked me or not is unimportant, fusionsdf knows that I am definitely green/blue because HE is Mafia. fusionsdf makes this post claiming that I am a Mafia. Everyone supports it because OH MA GAWD BANDWAGON BASED ON FUSIONS' WORD LAWL. I get lynched, turn up green. fusionsdf can't be blamed by the town, since he was just the mouthpiece, right? So, fusionsdf reveals the name of the DT, DT gets lynched. Turns up blue. The town realizes they have been fucked in the ass because they lost a DT and a townie in exchange for 1 Mafia, over a (probably, assuming no vigi intervention) 2 day period. Mafia has the same KP this whole time, whittling down the town. In the end, the town has wasted 2 lynches and killed only 1 Mafia. Mafia wins, gg no re.


I don't think there's a DT involved at all. Fusionsdf is mafia, makes up the DT story (real original since it's already been used for real this game), and we're supposed to lynch the person he chose. After fanatacist turns up green/blue, we lynch the supposed DT, which is going to be another name fusionsdf makes up. Three days later, we kill him. Doing this makes perfect sense if MidnightGladius is actually mafia and fusionsdf is covering for him to buy time (and kills).

I realize this is going to look really bad for me if fanatacist gets lynched and turns up red.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 11 2008 06:13 GMT
#1592
Score! I'm surprised, but happy to be wrong. Mafia is really screwing up this game.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 05:09 GMT
#1632
On November 12 2008 11:55 fusionsdf wrote:
not based off DTs or anything, but what do you guys think about wurm? for wurm = dragon

Show nested quote +
Far behind Mynocks house Yogurt and Mandalor went clue hunting. They spotted a set of foot prints, which perked their curiosity since only one mafia was at the scene of the crime. Following the set downhill they came across two individuals. Before either towns person could inquire about their presence behind Mynocks house both individuals charged towards them. With no weapons between them two fist fights broke out. Yogurt tripped his opponent and went to grab him on the ground except his hand was burned by his opponent. Clutching it in pain his defense was down and he paid greatly for it. His opponent tripped him also to the ground and quickly got up to his feet, with time to spare he picked the best place to strike and crushed Yogurt's chest.


a set of foot prints but only one mafia. 4 legs of a dragon? They do meet with a pair of mafia, but why would chuiu say only one mafia in the first sentence?


Didn't we decide that one of those hits was a vigilante? That would explain only one mafia but two footprints.

Trying to connect wurm to fire is fairly weak too.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 06:52:41
November 12 2008 06:42 GMT
#1636
Sorry I didn't trust you Naruto.

We thought the alliteration clues being the first letter of mafia names was too obvious, but now we've killed an A, N, and I. All we're missing is an M, and Mikeymoo and MTF are the only ones still alive. Of course, Ace and iNfuNdiBuLuM might not have actually been the A and I mafia members...

Also interesting is that the two people who were first to suggest this interpretation were decafchicken and fanaticist, both mafia members. Intentionally trying to throw the town off?

I'm assuming that MidnightGladius was a vigilante kill. Oops.

8 Green townies alive so don't be surprised when mafia hits blues. We actually got lucky again tonight.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 08:59:02
November 12 2008 08:58 GMT
#1649
I really like the Plexa - spirit toss link; the fireman part is just icing. I think it's good enough to go on.

If Plexa comes up red, that leaves 2 people from the above list, our M mafia, and 1 other (which could be the A or I member).

## I vote for Plexa.

Edit: bold tags
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 17:37 GMT
#1669
On November 13 2008 01:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Nevermore can indicate a raven, or something that flies....like a dragon....Narrowed nukes nearer? Fired fire blasts closer?


Those clues were for nemy. Nuke = suicide bomber.

My biggest reservation for Plexa being mafia was that I didn't think they could possibly be losing this game so badly with him, but now that we know he hasn't been playing, I think it's more likely he's mafia. Sorry for your family problems, but red=dead.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 21:25:16
November 12 2008 21:24 GMT
#1679
On November 12 2008 16:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 15:42 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Sorry I didn't trust you Naruto.

We thought the alliteration clues being the first letter of mafia names was too obvious, but now we've killed an A, N, and I. All we're missing is an M, and Mikeymoo and MTF are the only ones still alive. Of course, Ace and iNfuNdiBuLuM might not have actually been the A and I mafia members...

Also interesting is that the two people who were first to suggest this interpretation were decafchicken and fanaticist, both mafia members. Intentionally trying to throw the town off?

I'm assuming that MidnightGladius was a vigilante kill. Oops.

8 Green townies alive so don't be surprised when mafia hits blues. We actually got lucky again tonight.



As it looks like that someone with an M in their name is indeed mafia, i would suggest MTF as he has kind of faded from the game and activeness

Also in the alley fight with bockit and azn, bockit fights someone who just defends, and doesnt seem phased by it. (see picture of turtle hiding in its shell in his profile, which is how it defends itself)

the mafia then trips him and finishes him off while hes on the ground. (see his quotation: The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out.)

this to mean makes it sound like bockit was ignorant to the threat he was fighting then paid the price for it.


Quoting this to re-emphasize the case against MTF. Mikeymoo seems very unlikely to be mafia, MTF is the only other M, and the clues match up against him well. Voting to lynch ZBIR is taking a chance (even if that's a good chance).

If you guys don't want to lynch Plexa, let's do MTF instead.

## I change my vote from Plexa to MTF

Edit: I should really preview first
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 21:46 GMT
#1686
On November 13 2008 06:30 fusionsdf wrote:
lynch MTF?

are you guys fucking crazy?


I went through his posts, and all his clue analysis implicates townies and deflects suspicion from known dead mafia members. He and Plexa also agree with each other, which isn't a good thing considering the clues pointing to Plexa.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 22:12 GMT
#1691
On November 13 2008 06:47 fusionsdf wrote:
lol

if they got ace, plexa and mtf this is officially the most imbalanced mafia game ever


And the best part is that if we lynch a mafia today, their killing power is down to 2 and we've all but won.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 22:21 GMT
#1694
On November 13 2008 07:12 ZBiR wrote:
Yeah, lynch me ... then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL


This makes you sound even more like a mafia. Are the 4/10 mafia handed to us the alliteration clues? Even more reason to lynch MTF.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 12 2008 22:28 GMT
#1696
There are 5 dead. You forgot fanatacist.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 13 2008 00:38 GMT
#1710
On November 13 2008 08:44 MTF wrote:
Now, just looking at the numbers alone, how likely do you think it is that Chuiu would hand us this information, presuming that the alliteration is based off of the first word of a persons name? There were only two people with the letter I, and just one (or three if you make the exception, but even still) in the letter N. If it feels at all logical to conclude that the alliteration has this meaning, then I'd like to hear why, without the post hoc reasoning involving the currently dead mafia representing letters so far present.

Personally, I don't think Chuiu thinks we are dumb enough to need that sort of help. If you feel like lynching me based off of clues, that's fine, if ironic for me. But please don't do it because my name starts with the letter M. :p


Last game, any clue that seemed too obvious was wrong so we didn't expect that the alliteration was that easy. However, since 3 mafia have been killed that match that idea, I have to wonder whether Chuiu intentionally picked those letters as clues or if it just happened that 3 of them were the same as 3 mafia members' first letters. The latter would also assume that he either didn't notice or didn't care that the clue could be interpreted that way. At this point I'm just going with Occam's razor, plus I like the clues against you too.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 14 2008 07:20 GMT
#1773
On November 14 2008 16:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 15:55 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Mad hatters please contact me, or fusion; it is important for you to know where not to put the bombs, because it could really backfire on us and lose the advantage we've gained.

( i just hope your hiding and not being inactive )

Nightmare speaking from the basement.
Out.

What if I someone already used my their bombs?


Bombs can be moved.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 14 2008 07:23 GMT
#1774
On November 14 2008 16:17 ulszz wrote:
vigi should hit heros)pink probably. if hits any have hits left...


His profile pic does look like it could fit the headbutt clue...

[image loading]

Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 15 2008 07:27 GMT
#1793
It's a little too convenient that XCetron and Steve died in the same night. It's quite possible that we've got a leak...

If there's another Jack out there, please please PM me.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 16 2008 03:29 GMT
#1826
##I Vote for KF91

Looks solid to me. I still like Plexa and MTF for the last two.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 16 2008 18:10 GMT
#1841
##I change from KF91 to MTF
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 17 2008 07:27 GMT
#1864
Owned. Give us the other one Plexa and we'll give you a nice last meal.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 18 2008 07:39 GMT
#1900
We never figured out the last mafioso.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 19 2008 01:29 GMT
#1946
On November 18 2008 23:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
props to XCetron for being instrumental to several mafia kills

similar props to fusionsdf and mikeymoo

and me for nailing fanatacist! take that, sucker!


So I'm guessing that you and XCetron dying in the same night was a coincidence? Mikeymoo asked if I knew any medics that day, I told him about you because I knew he was already in contact with XCetron as well, then you both died. It seemed really suspicious.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 19 2008 02:10 GMT
#1950
I was one of the few remaining greens.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
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