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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 18 2008 22:44 GMT
#717
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=So no fek

Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

I looked at every profile picture, and his hair is the only hair that stands out. Not to mention he looks he looks 'enigmatic.' Nothing concrete, of course.


Also, where can one learn what Dr.Dragoon did?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 18 2008 23:47 GMT
#774
Anyone at this point could be mafia, the only way I can think of assessing who should be chosen for major is the amount of damage that they do to the mafia in their campaigning. That is, to say, whoever is providing the best non-trust related plan to elimate the mafia. Empyrean's problem is that he's calling on trust as the vital part of his election platform, not giving forth a plan that can be run regardless of who the major is.

Now, a mafia member could be giving us this destructive plan to get rid of the major position (for if a mafia member is elected its basicly going to be his speedy death.) But this doesn't matter. We cannot tell if anyone is mafia, so we may as well reward the best thinker. If a mafia member creates a better non-trust related plan than any legit townie could, what does it matter? He's done his share in helping us as he has enabled us to elimate his allies quicker than we could of envisioned. Also, this encourages legitimate majors to try harder.

So come on Empyrean, start dishing us some good shit if you want votes.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 02:21 GMT
#884
I don't know why we are even considering that Empyrean is a detective. Its all trust, which we can have none of at this point.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 03:30 GMT
#921
On March 19 2008 12:28 unsoundlogic wrote:
If you think about it from the mafia POV, they tie up the saboteur on empyrean every time. With 3 other detectives, you can still find out who voted for the major lynch candidates (2-3), and maybe even have room to target specific people. That, and vigilantes and other powerful townies are free to rape.
Empyrean can be verified once as mafia or not, and he can give public information gathered by other dts and PMed to him, without revealing the identities of the other dts. If he is mayor or pardoner, he is protected and can still post what other dts send him. He'd become kind of a public announcer person that can give data that townies normally wouldnt get w/o a dt.
As long as empyrean gets a protected role and is dt, then we get a huge advantage.


you're trusting someone before there is any accountability, ignore anyone's promises or word.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 16:49 GMT
#1041
On March 20 2008 01:42 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
guys vote for Empyrean! we need him with bodyguard protection so it'd be safer for him to point out the findings!


vote for him because he gave has the unfounded statement 'I'm a detective.' Its fairly easy to understand this is not a reason to vote for him.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 17:23 GMT
#1050
On March 20 2008 02:10 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 01:49 Wysp wrote:
On March 20 2008 01:42 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
guys vote for Empyrean! we need him with bodyguard protection so it'd be safer for him to point out the findings!


vote for him because he gave has the unfounded statement 'I'm a detective.' Its fairly easy to understand this is not a reason to vote for him.


Concise argument against voting for Empyrean.

Since I don't trust his word at all, we're left with a 20/130 chance that Empyrean is mafia and a 4/130 chance that he's a detective.

Try it on.



I also do not see it as an argument against him, for anyone could be posing as anything: motive is impossible to determine. I would say vote for Empyrean if he is doing the most harm to the mafia now.

But, if a pattern is seen in those who support his logic and him later in the game, this would be very indicative.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 19:34 GMT
#1072
Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 22:01 GMT
#1115
I just want to comment, we can't go crazy with detective role checking. Only get a couple shots with it and there are plenty of people.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 20 2008 05:13 GMT
#1363
On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote:
ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game?

I think someone needs a lollipop.

Too bad I don't have any special powers.

Oh, wait: to annoy!


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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 21 2008 20:16 GMT
#1767
I'm going to have to agree with Eti, we really should always try and tie who we lynch to a clue.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 22 2008 21:45 GMT
#2020
I took a hit last night.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 22 2008 22:11 GMT
#2026
Are we sure Ace isn't Mafia? If someone could link me to a page that explains why he isn't that would be great.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 25 2008 22:56 GMT
#2796
Ace, make sure all these people are PM'd in the vote spliting, the group of 7 should be easy enough to organize but its going to take a miracle for a well organized split of the 29. Its definately worth a try, though.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 25 2008 22:57 GMT
#2798
Also, if this splitting causes the wrong person to be lynched, he can just be pardoned (not sure if this has been mentioned, I haven't time right now but to skim.)
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
April 25 2008 07:42 GMT
#5100
exams and papers are done. is anyone maintaining a clue list?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
May 25 2008 20:14 GMT
#5816
I voted for ace's suggestions, but nemy's gotta be hanged asap.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
May 25 2008 20:22 GMT
#5817
Also, you've got to start thinking that all the useful roles except 1 bodyguard dying is a little less than coinidence.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
May 29 2008 20:28 GMT
#5909
Why aren't we double lynching every night? Seems like their are plenty of people we could go for along with randombum?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-29 20:54:25
May 29 2008 20:49 GMT
#5913
On May 30 2008 05:34 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2008 05:28 Wysp wrote:
Why aren't we double lynching every night? Seems like their are plenty of people we could go for along with randombum?


Did you even read the game roles description?



I did, and it said 'x' lynches, was not sure of the total used.

edit: I looked over it again and see the information now. this is what I get for pulling lungs all afternoon.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 08 2008 04:05 GMT
#6073
Is there a compiled list of relevant clues?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 08 2008 19:35 GMT
#6084
I've been asked by a person, who claims to be a member of a group of townies avoiding being pinched, to publish anything they wish to shoot out at the public. If you think the analysis is valid, that's fantastic, if you think its bad, that's also fantastic.

They are proposing that suresh0t may be cottonmouth.

"Dressed shabbily Cottonmouth walked in and presented himself as a challenge. Wizard took it and reached for a nearby lamp as a weapon"

http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/22041.jpg?1188493959

The connection of course, being the not so high end attire. Subjective, but something.

"He ran towards Cottonmouth and swung the lamp but missed as Cottonmouth dodged underneath him and flung him over his back"

In the picture suresh0t is kneeling, any other very loose connection.

"Cottonmouth grabbed the lamp and used the bottom end of it as a blunt weapon smashing Wizard's arm as he turned around to get up"

Proposing the lamp is similar to the hammer.

"To finish him off Cottonmouth took up the lamp again and shoved the bulb end of it as hard as he could into Wizard's chest impaling him with it."

Like a nail...


Personally, I think these are some pretty sleezy clues, if enough people agree I may reveal who is sending me these so we can think it through.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 06:44 GMT
#6089
On June 09 2008 06:04 Alethios wrote:
Why you wysp? Why could they not post it themselves?



I'm a veteran and not very committed to analysis myself, so I'll last longer and when I die no big loss.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 06:58 GMT
#6091
I took a hit, but still have 2.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 08:02 GMT
#6093
Do we think Mr.Brown is dead?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 08:22 GMT
#6094
Some more speculation about suresh0t:

Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.



the hammer in his picture is a fairly direct connection to the nails.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 17:19:04
June 09 2008 17:15 GMT
#6103
I agree completely, but we gotta keep at the clues before the town is cut down to only inactives. The nails connection is my own work, the previous stuff is from the aforementioned 'group.'

And about the mafia feeding me that information, I agree completely. The connections sent in the PM aren't that great, I'd say who it was if I thought it would be anything but confuse us.

Last night I spent a ton of time going through the last 50 pages again, and I'll be sure to release my work before I die. But for now I still need to know if we suspect that Mr. Brown is alive.

edit: this was directed in response to jtan
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 17:25 GMT
#6105
who do you think was Mr. Brown?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 17:56 GMT
#6106
Of the last ten mafia members we've seen none of them were mr.brown, and 3 mafia have died over that span, Mr. Brown is probably dead.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 09 2008 18:41 GMT
#6111
On June 10 2008 03:24 jtan wrote:
oh it just struck me...

is that group you are talking about perhaps a bunch of dead people who still follow the game? that would actually make sense lol


No, that would be against the rules.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 02:43:44
June 10 2008 02:28 GMT
#6115
Another townie asked me to post his work for him, thanks anonymous friend.


Since I do not know how to enable html in posts, I put his work into an .htm, just download and enjoy. Its a complete list of everything that has happened, a great bit of work.


http://www.2shared.com/file/3413101/d881bb53/mafia.html
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 02:30 GMT
#6116
fixing formating now..
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 02:51 GMT
#6119
and this is why I didn't defend myself.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 03:02 GMT
#6120
We've really won this, just a long, long grind to victory.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 03:03 GMT
#6122
you've already be hung, bub. Ha.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 03:07 GMT
#6124
welp, I did catch who you were trying to implicate, but I'm not going to share it for the sake of fairness.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 10 2008 05:40 GMT
#6129
On June 10 2008 12:20 Bockit wrote:
It's ok if you want to, I don't mind. But I guess technically I shouldn't have been speaking, so that's probably the best idea. Anyway that's all from me, gl all~


ah, the old serbian jew double bluff, cartman has taught me well.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 20:31:26
June 10 2008 20:27 GMT
#6134
Repost of the guy's work


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Extended list of day/night posts for quick reference:


Day 1
Mafia codenames featured in the clues: Eddie, Joe, Sidewinder, Mr.Red, Mr.Black, Mr.Blonde, King Brown Snake, The Wolf, Taipan Snake, Enigma, Mr.Pink, Mr.Blue
Townies killed: none
Votes
Night
Lynched (Ace's mayor lynch): InControl (Mad Hatter)


Day 2
Mafia featured: Mr.Blonde, Mr.Brown, Taipan Snake, Snake Charmer, Cottonmouth, Mr.Pink, Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Eddie
Townies killed: Mynock, goldenkrnboi, Neax, OneBlueAugust, Yogurt (Mad Hatter)
Killed by a Mad Hatter bomb: CTStalker (Jack)
Votes
Night
Lynched: Mandalor


Day 3
Mafia featured: Enigma, California Mountain Snake, Mr.Orange, Mr.Red, Copperhead, Mr.Black, Taipan Snake, Eddie, Mr.Pink, Mr.Brown, Sidewinder
Townies killed: JeeJee, French_Toast, Dinmsab (Detective), Fishball (Bodyguard), LucasWoJ (Paramedic)
Killed by a vigilante: ShadowDrgn
Votes*
Night
Lynched: wurm (Paramedic), Ghar


Day 4
Mafia featured: Enigma, Eddie, Taipan Snake, Cottonmouth, King Brown Snake, The Wolf
Townies killed: Showtime!, Empyrean (Detective), New104 (Detective)
Killed by a vigilante: Kau, Queasy
Votes
Night
Lynched: TranceStorm


Day 5
Mafia featured: Mr.Pink, Mr.White, Mr.Orange, Black Mamba, Mr.Red, Eddie, King Brown Snake, The Wolf
Townies killed: xDark.Carnivalx, Hittegods (Detective), Meta, Caller, Lenwe (all Bodyguards)
Killed by a vigilante: bumatlarge, Chezinu
Blew himself up: d.arkive
Votes*
Night
Lynched: EvilMonkey., Siefu


Day 6
Mafia featured: Eddie, Enigma, Mr.Black, Joe, Mr.Blue, California Mountain Snake, Mr.Brown, Mr.Pink
Townies killed: aZnvaLiaNce, decafchicken (Jack), BloodyC0bbler (Vigilante)
Killed by a vigilante: MidnightGladius, KH1031 (Paramedic), BlindAlbino
Votes
Night
Lynched: crazie-penguin


Day 7
Mafia featured: Eddie, Mr.Blue, Mr.Orange, Cottonmouth, Mr.Blonde, Copperhead, Mr.White
Townies killed: fusionsdf, useLess, Klive5ive, Falcynn, JoxxOr, NarutO (Vigilante)
Votes*
Night
Lynched: ulszz, L


Day 8
Mafia featured: Joe, The Wolf, Eddie, Mr.Brown, Mr.Pink, Mr.Black
Townies killed: Naib, Last Romantic, Zeks, AcrossFiveJulys, GrayArea
Votes*
Night
Lynched: LostYourSkills, ieatkids5


Day 9
Mafia featured: Eddie, Mr.Orange, Mr.Blue, Mr.Blonde, Cottonmouth
Townies killed: ~OpZ~, MTF, AmorVincitOmnia, Alventenie (Veteran)
Votes
Night
Lynched: GeneralStan


Day 10
Mafia featured: Mr.Pink, Mr.Orange, Eddie, The Wolf, Mr.Blue
Townies killed: omfghi2u2, Vharox, smurfingchobo, GranDim (Paramedic)
Votes*
Night
Lynched: DamageControL, Unforgiven_ve


Day 11
Mafia featured: California Mountain Snake, Eddie, Mr.Black, The Wolf, Mr.Blue, California Mountain Snake
Townies killed: Hollander (Paramedic), More_Minerals (Bodyguard), butidigress (Vigilante), Heros)Pink (Paramedic)
Votes
Night
Lynched: clazziquai


Day 12
Mafia featured: Mr.Black, Copperhead, Mr.Pink, Eddie
Townies killed: Plexa, Energies (Vigilante), imDerek (Paramedic)
Votes*
Night
Lynched: LTT, SpiritOfTheTuna


Day 13
Mafia featured: Mr.Orange, Eddie, Mr.Blonde, The Wolf
Townies killed: Camlito, Ace (Mayor), fanatacist (Bodyguard)
Votes
Night
Lynched: Randombum


Day 14
Mafia featured: Copperhead, Cottonmouth, The Wolf
Townies killed: SonuvBob, Wizard, NightMare
Votes
Lynch: Bockit
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 11 2008 06:10 GMT
#6144
0cz3z is next for sure.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 11 2008 06:46 GMT
#6146
We're gonna get a couple more mafia members in the next couple lynches, then we can basicly hang randomly and still win. With the focused barrage of clues that won't be needed, though.

Is the mafia allowed to concede when they lose all hope?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 19:43:24
June 11 2008 19:41 GMT
#6156
I'll confirm that romance_us is most likely mafia, mainly due to bockit's double bluff. All we need to do is peg a clue to him.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-13 03:41:58
June 13 2008 03:33 GMT
#6161
A townie has asked me to post this

"Ocz3c is Copperhead.

There is already analysis from MTF and Plexa about the link between these two here:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...pic_id=67925&currentpage=230#4582
but i'd like to draw your attention to copperhead in day 12.

"..imDerek screamed out from behind him "oh the times!" and stabbed at him with a needle..."

Now look at ocz3c's profile. "Num negas audes? Quid taces? Convincam, si negas; video enim esse hic quosdam qui tecum una fuerunt. O di immortales!" Any google search will till you that this is a quote from Cicero.

He explains what it's about here:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...pic_id=67925&currentpage=221#4420

Now look at these quotations from Cicero:
http://www.quoteopia.com/famous.php?quotesby=marcustulliuscicero
One should jump out at you in particular:

"Oh, the times! Oh, the manners!"

Coincidence? I doubt it... considering the randomness of imDerek yelling "Oh the times!".

Additionally, you'll notice the latest copperhead shindig to be on a boat. 0cz3z's quote earlier on in the game was "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat!"

Then Plexa's comment about him here should come in handy when trying to convince the town. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...pic_id=67925&currentpage=247#4930

Now look at 0cz3z's voting patterns:
look at the last 8 voters for randombum:
L
LTT
French_Toast
Unforgiven_ve
0cz3c
BlindAlbino
clazziquai
Queasy
really bad company there.
furthermore, he's on the mandalor list.
other votes:
day 3: ghar
day 4 to 14: no vote at all, not even abstain. this is suspect because he wasn't really inactive in the thread.

Thats a sure lynch if i ever saw one."
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 14 2008 03:14 GMT
#6178
0cz3c, you're dead man, we really didn't even need the clue to hang you.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 14 2008 03:23 GMT
#6181
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumbata

The Wolf doesn't miss again.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 14 2008 15:59 GMT
#6190
On June 14 2008 22:23 0cz3c wrote:
And that matters to me being away from the game almost all game, right?

Nice try, mafia.



Malicious puppy; nippingly adorable.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-17 10:51:23
June 17 2008 10:46 GMT
#6221
So disregarding the undead, what's next town?

suresh0t is a good guess, he's on the mandalor list, right? romance_us, too, if we can pin a mafioso to him.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 21 2008 05:10 GMT
#6254
We should probably lynch suresh0t or romance_us now. I'm not sure how to look for clues on mr.orange but we all should.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-21 19:01:39
June 21 2008 19:01 GMT
#6258
On June 22 2008 02:48 suresh0t wrote:
Wysp go ahead and explain why you think I should be lynched...I want a write up on me before I die so I can mock you when I flip green.


Well, other than clues which could easily be pinned to you, your presense on the mandalor list, and your stereotypical mafia lynch fighting (this is what really is doing you in, if you're a townie really shitty job, btw.)
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 21 2008 19:03 GMT
#6259
Also, who was that guy who said "I'll laugh if I'm the last mafia lynched?" Really shitty thing to say as it basicly means he has to be lynched. If he's mafia it doesn't make sense to say that, and if he's town it makes even less sense to say it as we're gonna have to waste a lynch.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 16:17:56
June 22 2008 16:12 GMT
#6270
Reduced Mandalor List for Wysp to Publish
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
ahrara_
ZBiR
BWdero
Scorch
nemY
suresh0t
Lysithea
Ninja4ever.
SoleSteeler
Romance_us
NatsuTerran
0cz3c
Pangolin
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
4/17 mafia 3/16 mafia (about 1/5)

Reduced Non Mandalor List for Wysp to Publish
HotZhot
Dr.Dragoon
CDRdude
So no fek
Fen
Puosu
infinity21
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Amber[LighT]
fgsvsd
KF91
MasterOfChaos
str
Kuja900
araav
KorvspaD
Ziel
jtan
RowdierBob
BuGzlToOnl
DTDominion
~2/20 (2/21) or 1/10.5 mafia

Final note to Wysp: If people question whatever happened to the 3/7 Mandalor List, explain to them that there was a flaw that list (which there is). If they take the original Mandalor list (from when people were following Ace's lead), and remove all the dead's and blues, they'll plainly see that the 3/7 is not possible.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 22 2008 16:13 GMT
#6271
As for nemY, I don't know if he's mafia or not. There will be a very certain way to tell which I'll send to other vets (as I'm likely to die soon) but I'm going to ahead and say there is a very low chance that nemY is mafia
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 22 2008 16:19 GMT
#6272
I've lost my bookmarks, so I'm not sure, did rpf report as a veteran? If not we have another fake vet.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 23 2008 11:37 GMT
#6274
Just to remind everyone of why we're hanging suresh0t:

-He's on the mandalor list
-He's struggling in the exact same manner as all mafia have
-The Wolf killed people with nails, suresh0t has a hammer in his profile
-The Wolf never misses
-The people he's defended have been mafia


This is a lot of evidence and makes him the best lynch. Everyone else is, indeed, a further stretch.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-23 11:42:41
June 23 2008 11:42 GMT
#6275
btw, all this came to light AFTER PLEXA'S death. suresh0t's squirming is just typical mafia bullshit. If he is town he's done a god awful job of helping us out.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 23 2008 14:24 GMT
#6277
On June 23 2008 22:52 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 20:42 Wysp wrote:
btw, all this came to light AFTER PLEXA'S death.

Actually, that's not true.


Really? My memory serves the nails coming very recently, along with suresh0t's squirming. Mind bringing up the posts?
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 25 2008 16:54 GMT
#6326
ararah_ (is this the right spelling?) should probably be next. Let's try and put a clue on him.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 25 2008 22:54 GMT
#6329
townies, STOP SAYING THINGS THAT SUGGEST YOU MAY BE MAFIA, EVEN IF YOU THINK ITS CUTE OR OBVIOUSLY IN JEST. It makes our job a helluvalot harder and it may already cause one person to be lynched.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 26 2008 13:23 GMT
#6334
By the request of some chode:

"Hey guys, how about this? str=Mr.Orange

Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them.

Mr.Orange has wire clippers in hand because he's linked to disabling electric devices / telephones. str fits this due to his "no units=no power" quote.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

Noone may ever call for help while Mr.Orange is near. No (helping townie/police) units = no power (to resist the mafia).

useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death.

What is the strange sound outside the window? Might it be Mr.Orange manipulating the telephone line?
STR may also stand for strength. This is why Mr.Orange jumps through a window, almost knocking him down just by flying past useLess, and then proceeds to take him in a headlock. He then stabs all the way through his victim's arms with glass shards, which should take some force as well.

Two men, Eddie and Mr. Orange were holding a man to the ground with their legs and pulling as hard as they could on his arms. MTF screeched to a stop and got out to help the man but it was too late and blood gushed all over the sidewalk as ~OpZ~ was literally disarmed.

It certainly requires a lot of STRength to rip off somebody's arms. You could also say they "disable" ~OpZ~.

Mr. Orange had the help of Eddie as he went after Vharox. They were following behind Vharox as he was leaving a bar late at night. Once Vharox got his door open Eddie came from behind and grabbed him in restraint. Mr. Orange smashed an empty beer bottle over Vharox's head and it shattered into pieces and made Vharox flinch back in pain. He broke free of Eddie and charged into Mr. Orange knocking him on his side. Eddie tried to restrain Vharox again but had no luck as he fought him back. Vharox started inching his way to his cell phone to call the cops when Mr. Orange was back on his feet this time with a more lethal weapon. He stabbed Vharox in the arm with the beer bottle and then again in the chest. Vharox fell to the ground and Mr. Orange finished him off with a few more well placed stabs.

Not much here, except Mr.Orange again foiling Vharox's plans of using his cell phone in order to call for help.

Mr. Orange, Eddie, and Mr. Blonde were about to prove that by taking out Fanatacist and Ace once and for all. Ace and Fanatacist were sitting at a desk going over detective files trying to find the remaining few mafia when the three barged into the room. Ace quickly grabbed the phone to call for backup but it was too late as Mr. Orange had landed a dagger right on the phone line cutting him off. Mr. Blonde shot across the room and grabbed all the notes dumping them into a trash bin nearby. He lit a match and set the whole thing on fire hoping this was the last copy the town had to go off. Mr. Orange, Mr. Blonde and Eddie all got out pistols and fired round after round at Ace and Fanatacist who were helpless to stop them. Eddie went up to Ace and he was terrified as Eddie finished him off but firing one last round into his head.

Mr.Orange cuts the phone line before Ace can call for help, as always.

Mr. Orange had just finished cutting off unsoundlogics house from the rest of the world when unsoundlogic came out the back door and spotted him. He ran back in and tried every phone in the house but they were all dead. Mr. Orange followed in and cornered unsoundlogic with a knife in hand. Maybe unsoundlogic didn't have anymore fight in him after surviving so many attempts, maybe he felt he was no match, but in the end he put up no fight and just let Mr. Orange stab him down.

Mr.Orange unpowering the house. unsoundlogic doesn't even resist, perhaps because Mr.Orange has too much STRength?

As the icing on the cake, str has never ever participated in a voting! Suspicious, huh?
On these grounds, I say str is mafia and has to be lynched next."
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 26 2008 13:35 GMT
#6336
I'll let the gallery have at ye.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 26 2008 17:54 GMT
#6340
I'm tell you guys, don't lynch nemY. In the coming days it will become apparent if he is mafia or not. Just hold your horses.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 18:02:12
June 26 2008 17:57 GMT
#6341
On another note: I'd just ignore most of what qrs is says. He's been a cunt and a shit disturber most of the game.

I don't think its his intention, just works out that way.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 04:45:03
June 27 2008 04:29 GMT
#6347
On June 27 2008 03:31 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 02:57 Wysp wrote:
On another note: I'd just ignore most of what qrs is says. He's been a cunt and a shit disturber most of the game.

Oh, have I? I've refused to take things on faith; that's true enough. I've been right some of the time and wrong some of the time. I've been active throughout the game, unlike you. I won't stoop to insulting you back, but keep your foul language to yourself, please, or at least out of the thread.


this is the cuntish shit disturbing I'm talking about. I'm a confirmed townie, and despite your best efforts mafia have been hung. If I tell you shit (because YOU aren't confirmed,) the operation could very well go foul. If I publicly announce it, it goes foul 100%. Use your brain.

You consistantly try to lead people to the worse choice. Do I think its because you're mafia? Not necessarily, you could just be 'dull' (sugar coated enough?)
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 05:07:22
June 27 2008 05:06 GMT
#6349
.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 27 2008 14:38 GMT
#6355
qrs, its been the entire game you've been bad and you know it. Its almost as easy to click a random page to see you causing shit.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 16:15:40
June 27 2008 16:05 GMT
#6358
I kept up with the thread for almost the entire game. There were two spans when I was moving, and then later when I was on vacation where I fell behind. Also, when the time came that my role became useful I stepped up immediately. This is completely irrelevant to the current situation, though.

I still do not understand your mistrust of me.

-8 veterans reported to ace, the fake one died.
-The last string of mafia have been hung, not a difficult task, but good analysis is out for some other potential mafia and the group I'm working with is doing great as of now.

So, I can say with little confidence that I am a townie, and the people I'm working with are not yet proven inept. Why is it so hard to listen to me and look for other mafia, does the order you hang them in matter? I never said nemY is an innocent, I said it would be goddamn retarded to hang him now as it will become more and more clear in the next few days if that is a high percentage hang. There is absolutely no reason to go for him when there are far better leads, AND info will come out about him in the future. So when you spit in the face of logic do you understand why I try to get people to ignore you?


I could kick shit at you all day, as I am quite the shit-kicker. The difference between my shit kicking and your shit kicking is that I've only kicked shit at you. You've been causing controversy (disruptive to the point you made a few short lists to be mafia throughout the game) and absolutely nothing good has come of it (well, maybe if you had been hung...)

I don't hate you, and I would love to appease you by explaining to you the depths (shallows) of my plans. But this would ruin them.


I'm not completely sure why I bothered with this post, but I will make it worthwhile in the end by saying again:

its probably in our best interest to ignore qrs.

edit: by ignore I don't mean to ignore any good work with clues he does, or incriminating posts he digs up, but rather to ignore anything that he posts based on his intuition or 'game sense.'
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 28 2008 05:05 GMT
#6362
On June 28 2008 03:33 qrs wrote:
No explanation given.


DOT DOT DOT


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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 12:43:54
June 28 2008 12:43 GMT
#6372
str is next, for sure.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
June 30 2008 02:13 GMT
#6380
Hey guys, I'm moving to Vancouver in 6 hours, Vancouver being on the exact opposite side of the contitent I live on. May be a couple before you hear shit from me.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 02 2008 01:17 GMT
#6396
would should hang Ahrara_
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 02 2008 01:19 GMT
#6397
but I guess str is fine too, we probably can't make a huge swing of ~3 votes.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-16 17:52:36
July 16 2008 17:48 GMT
#6596
since the last time I posted I've lived in 4 different cities, had very little time for internet relaxing.

All I got to say is...

nemy hanging idiots =P

ahrara_ still needs a lynch. (edit: I saw a list with his name crossed out, is he dead? I just checked day/night posts)

Who knows when I'll have internet next, but this looks fairly wrapped up.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 25 2008 07:25 GMT
#6755
HANG AHRARA
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 27 2008 04:28 GMT
#6761
I have one life let.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 27 2008 04:33 GMT
#6763
I've honestly forgotten all the clues, someone refresh me on current leads. For unclue related reasons we have to hang ahrara_, and if ahrara is red also hang romance.us. Unless there is compelling evidence from the clues, then they can be delayed. I really don't know if I'll have time to analyze the clues and catch-up on them, but, I'll try if no one has done any good work next time I check and if I have the leisure available.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
July 31 2008 15:50 GMT
#6789
I'm terribly interested in the post game wrap-up.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
August 02 2008 08:41 GMT
#6795
Astrology should be invoked. The cosmos surely hold the identity of the last mafioso.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
September 06 2008 17:21 GMT
#6934
I heard the next mafia game is getting its own forum. Mind you, I've never lied in my life.
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