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On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote: If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered. . Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies. | ||
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On March 19 2008 00:10 Lenwe wrote: If the mayor that is elected is mafia, I think the mafia win with that plan. They get to remove the mayor and one detective from the game for the price of only one of their members. If however the mayor is a townie, the plan sounds good to me. With the detective roles I assume we will find out if the mayor is a mafia member anyway since there is bound to be at least one detective checking that. Right now it is hard to trust anyone, but near impossible to point out the mafia members (unless they do something really stupid). We, as the town, have to be careful to accuse anyone since the mafia can easily benefit from that. If we start accusing other townies and fighting amongst ourselves the mafia have nothing worry about in the beginning. Also something Bill307 said in the write-up post made a lot of sense to me. While Ghar's plan indeed is good and it does give direction, it also really bad if we elect a mayor that turns out to be mafia. So, considering Randomburn put in the effort to send out pm's before the roles were handed out, there being a 20/130 chance he then got a mafia role and with the excellent voting record he had last game, I am inclined to go with him for mayor. All that said and done, I wouldn't vote for someone who sent out PM's before the game began if he wanted to be mayor. His attitude can also change within that short period. I wouldn't vote for him because he bought interest before the game even began, so it takes away from the potential fact that he could be mafia. | ||
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On March 19 2008 00:15 Ace wrote: Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role? Anyone faking DT has to be Mafia, because any Townie doing that after reading all these posts explaining the plan would realize they are hurting the Town by doing so. also, this is not in any way Townies vs Townies. At all. More so it's the uninformed majority vs the informed minority, and one of the ways to get around that trend is to share info with those that we 100% know is innocent. lol did you play last game? | ||
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On March 19 2008 00:50 Ace wrote: I read it, and thats the exact situation I'm trying to avoid this time around. 1/130 remember that. | ||
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On March 20 2008 01:16 Falcynn wrote: We've gone over this a bunch of times already. A detective will check out the mayor, if he's mafia then the detective will post his findings. After that we lynch the detective, if he turns blue then we lynch the mayor (we lynch the detective to deter mafiosos from spreading false rumors and declaring themselves detective). Edit: and dinmsab, you have to post your votes in Chuiu's blog, not here. Do you guys know how fucked we will be if we elect a mafia member to the mayoral position? Not saying this is a bad plan, but I'd rather not know that information, or if this is found out early keep him on until later because the bodyguards will be of no use to him unless mafia fake kills him. We need double lynches and the mayor will be more inclined to cooperate early on. So I hope we don't find out our mayor is mafia early and just cut his head. | ||
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On March 22 2008 07:50 Alventenie wrote: There is no reason to be impatient or nervous on night 1. You have a 9/110 chance of dieing, and think of the odds that 7/110 could be watching one of those 9, to save them! The odds of protection is slim with such high numbers. We won't see better results until closer to the end. This is the mafia's chance to get more key role players. | ||
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On March 30 2008 05:14 Falcynn wrote: I'm starting to realize that this plan of Ace's is probably more suited to smaller games. With a large game like this we have way too many people stirring shit up and confusing everybody. edit: and we didn't have 7000 clues...more like 2. See?! GJ killing Ghar :/ | ||
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On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote: *Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation. Looks like you're done interpreting clues. | ||
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On March 30 2008 19:35 Alethios wrote: You probably know this, but "Snake Charmer" was the Codename for Bill (the leader) of the Deadly Vipers Assassination Squad. Anytime. The people, such as myself, who voted but "shouldn't have" are actually doing the town a favour. If the mafia count on those two lists combined don't increase, the extra people are all townies. Waiting on Ace to post the counts. I hope we are still getting them. --------- Ace seems to think he can win without our help. The vigilantes will be busy won't they? I asked why I should 'abstain.' I never got an answer so I never took back my vote. Having people (like myself) abstain makes us look bad in the long run because you can then turn around and say: "well Amber[LighT] never actually voted, and to protect himself he just abtained." All I wanted was to know why I was to abstain. I didn't see an answer. You guys will shoot yourselves in the foot if we just vote because of 'other circumstances.' And I want to get this straight: We wanted to kill our medic?! (or did we actually think he was mafia?) | ||
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On March 31 2008 13:12 Falcynn wrote: lol, we're not allowed to elect a new mayor  . yah so lets be careful before saying we will kill our mayor yes?  | ||
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On April 04 2008 05:44 Empyrean wrote: That being said, I wonder if I'm allowed to post my number one suspect? I doubt it, though, so I won't. No you can't. Unless we get a fortune teller hero and they can speak to the dead. | ||
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On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote: almost like taunting us. At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy. How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post. | ||
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So why aren't we targeting him? Did we decide it was okay to kill off all the players with special roles? Even if he's a townie that's shitty to do. | ||
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On April 13 2008 01:46 BlindAlbino wrote: ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back. not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent. or maybe the list is false? | ||
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On April 13 2008 03:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Seriously Amber is either a stupid townie or a mafia trying to either get Ace lynched or Araav + trying to fuck us with false statement. and theres clues towards him too Dunno why he's still trying to provoke the town with such stupid comment If that was an error by Chuiu he probably would have already came up to admit his mistake; however seeing as he hasn't I'm going to assume someone in this little 'inner circle' is lying. I'll put it out there I don't trust Ace I think it's too much of a coincidence that all but one of our detectives were assassinated quickly (more frequently than the others) and our last one was guaranteed to die because they used the suicide bomber on him. I'm in doubt of the 'fact analyzing' that's going on here. I've shut up for most of the game because I believe having a mayor around is a good idea early, but we're coming close to that point where we should evaluate our 'higher ups' and question their motives. | ||
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On April 13 2008 12:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote: yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet) I'm sorry but this was just ironic for someone who plays Starcraft to post | ||
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On April 17 2008 04:55 L wrote: You realize that 5 hits didn't land last night, one of which was protected by me. Where did the rest go? Edit: 2 vig hits (one on your orders on KH, which decaf pmed me about) + 3 normal kills. Either mafia hit 5 veterans, or they probably put extra hits on decaf to assure that he couldn't vote check in the future. And to add to that, if the Jack's ID was already known by the channel incident, why does it tie to me. Mafia already knew, and with the missing hits, (being over FIFTY PERCENT of their total hits), its incredibly easy to assume that they just tossed an extra hit or two on him to assure his death. Perhaps we should look into this? You have the list of veterans Ace? Make sure they're numbers match up to last nights so we can get closer to uncovering another mafia member. | ||
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ah so nevermind that. That add's more definiteness to the game where we can pinpoint strikes better than, so it's good I made the mistake so it's corrected I suppose? Is it possible for you to confirm above about the veterans? | ||
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On April 17 2008 05:32 Ace wrote: When Lenwe died he got twice. The first time he got saved and got a PM about, the second time he died. So how is now different from then? If decaf was hit once, you would have saved him. If decaf was hit twice or more, he would have still got a PM saying he was saved and then died anyway. Neither of those happened. You shouldn't know that information.... EDIT: I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong to know this info, but still the mayor can't technically talk to the dead. | ||
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On April 17 2008 05:47 Ace wrote: I didn't know that until Chuiu just posted it. Even ignoring that info L is STILL confirmed Mafia. Yah I figured that, hence why it doesn't really matter if you cheated, lol. | ||
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On April 19 2008 12:50 crazie-penguin wrote: I'm coming for you Amber, even from the grave... :o w/e my death is pretty irrelevant since Ive witheld all my reasons for voting (besides that ironic exception of u) so I wouldn't be a big loss to the town and another person who is doing fantastic work to find u mafioso can live another day | ||
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On April 22 2008 09:37 L wrote: I had to go pull an all nighter to get my degree with first honours, but yeah, Amber[Light] is what I was pointing at. I'm surprised no one noticed it before, seeing as all the clues are directly linked to the actions of Light during the series. If it means you get to stay alive another day for randomly throwing names out there than fine nominate me, but no one has even pointed a clue towards me this entire game, except you of course. It's pretty obvious that I'm not mafia. Maybe refer back to one of my earlier posts? | ||
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On April 22 2008 10:49 L wrote: Okay, so, your defence is that people have looked at me instead of you until now. Solid. You're doubting the detective work that has been going on in this game? Let me remind you of how great of a job these guys are doing. They are picking out names from 110 DIFFERENT USERS. Don't you think if there was a clue worthy enough to pin me as a target it would have been made known Day 2, 3, 4, 5, OR even 6? Why would it take so long to actually accuse me of anything. I think you're desperate because you know you're fucked if you don't somehow manage to get someone else. And I can't be mafia. a) I already let others know this. b) I stated on page 235: On April 17 2008 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote: Also, L, how do you know your medic save was necessarily guaranteed protection. We can't say for sure. We need to list who was actually hit. Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? This should have turned a light on or something in your head (not meant to be an ironic statement). It's pretty obvious I don't know what the killing system is for mafia. If I knew, would I ask that question? And maybe I'm using this to cover up, but it was already in a discussion including you, where I already felt you were mafia. Note also I never edited that post and I was corrected by others just posts after. As a side note this is my second mafia game (I was a townie last game), and the fact that I still didn't know how the mafia killed should have made me an automatic name to never even bother accusing or putting on a list. Ask yourself this, L. If I was mafia, would I even bother suggesting there are inactive people? If I die then thats a clue that you should target players who are more inactive with the game since they have 'killing power.' I wouldn't screw the mafia over if I was in that type of position, I would probably accuse someone who hasn't said much the entire game, voted EVERY time (whether I abstained or not I always voted), which makes me feel like you're either out to get me, or you're mafia. In either case I don't trust you. | ||
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On April 24 2008 10:52 Plexa wrote: i thought about this on the bus home but i cam to the conclusion that killing two mafia today is so pivotal to win this game (esp when the mafia kill count is reduced to 6) that we really need to be axing as many confirmed mafia as fast as we can. ulszz has a high chance of being mafia, and we've got clazz/0zc3c lined up for the next couple lynches If we can somehow manage to lynch the saboteur today that will put us at a great advantage since we will no longer be role-blocked, which prevented us from a 2x lynch yesterday, and we need to utilize those for the remainder of the game. Victory is in sight for the townies, and I think knocking out the saboteur would be key. Sad thing is, who can we connect to that role? | ||
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On April 24 2008 17:30 qrs wrote: Not really such a big deal: there are only 4 double-lynches left. But the difference is it will take 8 days with the saboteur alive, instead of 4 days to possibly eliminate 8 mafia members. 8 Days = more death on our end, 4 at least saves a couple of townies. | ||
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On April 24 2008 11:43 ~OpZ~ wrote: Suspect wise... How do you feel about amber[Light] haha are you serious? | ||
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On April 27 2008 08:32 clazziquai wrote: MTF I have nothing to post. It seems like you guys accuse me for being mafia and right now you and Plexa have most influence in town. Oh well. That's why I gave up. Won't matter for me, but have fun wasting a lynch on me. Thanks for the generic "I'm mafia so I can't really say much, so I'll post this hoping you guys feel stupid about your choice to lynch me and decide at the last minute to keep me alive, and actually debating clues is useless because that's actually me and you really did a good job finding out who it was." | ||
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ok i believe you i won't get you lynched. love always makes everything better. | ||
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On April 29 2008 09:20 SoleSteeler wrote: There are pretty strict rules about posting while dead, L! Not that I care, but others might. if it's game changing... | ||
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On April 29 2008 17:41 Scorch wrote: Maaan, mafia take their time again. How come town can interpret clues, build up evidence, agree on a candidate and vote on him within two days, while mafia fails to type up six fucking names in four days? Chuiu, I suggest you issue an ultimatum. Should mafia not make haste and send a goddamn list until, say, tomorrow, please select a kill list at random (maybe with only 5 kills as a punishment?) so we can finally carry on. Mafia's slowness starts to annoy me. Or just no kills because time wouldn't wait for them if this was really going on. You ended day within 2 days how come mafia gets all this time? | ||
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On April 29 2008 23:19 Chuiu wrote: Settle down I got the list, Day will be up tonight when I have time to write it. *rawr* im angry grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!! | ||
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On May 02 2008 11:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: ANYONE WHO DOESN'T VOTE IS AN STX_CHILD FAN Problem solved. This sounds like a threat mafia would say hrm all aboard the Shallow[bay] lynching train? :D | ||
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On May 17 2008 06:48 Scorch wrote: O RLY? Explain please. + Show Spoiler + List of people with a three-letter name: Fen LTT str qrs Ace rpf Could this list include names with only 3 different letters in it? Such as: + Show Spoiler + araav eti307 ahrara | ||
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On May 22 2008 14:45 qrs wrote: Wow, the night posts are getting shorter and shorter. Pretty soon we'll be down to stuff like ![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLnight.png) qrs oh i see what you did there... | ||
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On June 04 2008 07:00 unsoundlogic wrote: Oh shit actually i did get answers _____ 1. Town people not on the list were those who did not send their role into Ace at the start of the game. We can however deduce, as all blues are accounted for, that those not on the lists are either Mafia or Town. 2. Everyone on the list of mafia are confirmed mafia. In the case of Jtan/Nemy, there is a contradiction between the two players and therefore one is mafia and the other is innocent. Masterofchaos: __________ 3. All "confirmed" roles are roles confirmed by detective lists, numbers tallying, etc. If they have a # by their name, they are that role. Who's telling you this? Someone who is dead already? | ||
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On June 07 2008 04:42 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: I NEED THE LIGHT Why so you can see who you killed? ZOMG MAFIA!!!!!  | ||
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On June 09 2008 01:44 ZBiR wrote: More like 36h? It's close to 2 days, which is like a "standard switching time" (well, except when mafia doesn't want to send their kills T_T) ehh I went a day back. I forgot TL is a half a day ahead of me :/ | ||
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On June 09 2008 15:58 Wysp wrote: I took a hit, but still have 2. uhhhhh....something tells me no. | ||
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On June 14 2008 09:21 0cz3c wrote: The entire United States doesn't revolve around the public school system. These "assumptions" are the idiots way out. I go to a Jesuit private high school entitled Regis High School. Check on their website when our school year ends (or rather, ended this Wednesday) before making any more damaging and incorrect assumptions. Based on the effort you put into ensuring accuracy in your post, I'm almost convinced that you're mafia. AHAHAHAHA if you are really convinced I am mafia after my post and you think the town is going to 180 and vote me you have another thing coming. I've been clean this entire game, and all of the major investigators in this game have NEVER had my name on any of their lists. I am not a target, but I believe you are a more worthwhile hit. | ||
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On June 17 2008 14:36 crazie-penguin wrote: wow cant believe mafia are still in this. Doesn't matter who wins, the mafia was the better team even with all the gay imbalances against us. GOGO MAFIA YOU CAN DO IT. I'll do something special in my blog (what else can I do rofl?) the day you guys win!! You know, if you actually killed the right people first, you would have actually done a better job and mafia wouldn't be in this embarrassing position. | ||
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On June 24 2008 03:16 qrs wrote: What's with Amber[Light] and his abstaining for every single vote? Shouldn't you be 6 feet under? | ||
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On June 27 2008 03:25 qrs wrote: araav, I don't see what you mean. nemY may be town or he may be Mafia. If he is town, his vote helps the town insofar as it can cancel out one mafia vote. If he is mafia, his vote hurts the town to the same degree: it can cancel out one town vote. Moreover, since the mafia has perfect information whereas the town does not, a mafia vote is arguably more useful than a town vote (i.e. theoretically if it came down to the wire and the mafia was close to swaying the vote, an extra townie vote might help the town (if he voted for the right person), whereas an extra mafia vote would certainly help the mafia.) So I don't see why nemY's voting should make a difference. Wysp, I plan to vote for nemY next day (assuming continued health, naturally), unless you can give us a hint as to how this plan might work. Or if it's dangerous to post it in the thread, you can PM me. Or if you don't trust me, that's OK, but don't expect me to trust the plan either. Not necessarily. Here is the list of everyone who voted yesterday: suresh0t - 7 nemY Wysp ShaLLoW[baY] araav ZBiR Scorch Lysithea KF91 nemY - 4 jtan BuGzlToOnl (of course you do) qrs suresh0t And I abstained. Assuming that we keep nemY, he is only one vote of the possible 12 voters at the moment. He doesn't really influence votes anyway, which doesn't mean he's a townie or mafia 100%, but we, as a town, are not in a position to risk a vote on someone who at least votes. Killing off someone who doesn't even participate in the lynchings will still give us 10 votes tomorrow, and 8 the next day. Killing nemY means we move from 12, to 10, to 7. 7 is a really bad number with so few mafia members left, we need to keep the people who are alive and voting around, even if they are mafia. They will come about soon, don't worry. | ||
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On July 02 2008 10:19 Wysp wrote: but I guess str is fine too, we probably can't make a huge swing of ~3 votes. but we should vote for the person who is more likely to be connected to mafia. I mean either way we aren't really losing a townie vote, until after night. This needs to be an accurate kill. | ||
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On July 03 2008 15:44 CDRdude wrote: Hi guys! I'm lurking TL instead of doing anything productive, and I just remembered that I still have a character in this mafia game. Is it still possible for me to come back and be more active, even though I've missed votes? IIRC, Chuiu had a rule that people that missed 2/3 votes in a row would be booted from the game, is this enforced? Yah but we might accuse you of being mafia so get your story straight | ||
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On July 06 2008 13:34 Plexa wrote: oh if only i was living I was until recently! | ||
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On April 19 2008 02:39 Amber[LighT] wrote: Okay so I was coming home from work today and I am switching my vote to CraziePenguin. Why?! I saw this on the way home: Dont forget pengiun, I'm always gonna remember this :p | ||
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