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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 18 2008 14:33 GMT
#4850
Plexa is on fire!
I think the ZBiR connection is a bit unnatural (he's from Poland, not Croatia). I can certainly agree with SoMuchBetter and clazziquai though. I already had them suspected earlier, even if it was in a different context either time.
Too many criminals to kill for our small militia. Should we call the army for help?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 18 2008 16:05 GMT
#4854
Wait, I am the prime suspect for Mr. Pink? Why is that? Since your word has a lot of weight (rightly so!), I'd very much like to hear the reasoning for this accusation. Let me state this clearly: I am a townie.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 18 2008 16:35 GMT
#4856
Indeed, I didn't even know that there's a Scorch supervillainesse. Just looked her up in Wikipedia, and have two things to say in my defense:
- I'm not a girl, and certainly not an evil one
- The Scorch comic character would probably kill with fire, which Mr. Pink hasn't done yet. In fact, any clue involving fire would point to my name directly, but there hasn't been a single one in all of the day posts.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 18 2008 17:55 GMT
#4863
Not a supervillain, but my own take on Mr. Pink
+ Show Spoiler +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" (wisdom, cool-headed planning) commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia (unemotional remark). As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot (gruesome, macabre), the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head (same again). OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter (gained a "level-up" from Mynock's pain?). Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live (energy leeched out of him?).

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (Mr. Pink wants to beat him to death slowly for additional pain, instead of shooting him dead quickly. Mr.Brown obeys because Mr.Pink is considered wise and cold-minded.) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

From this, I extract two major themes: bloodlust/violence/sadism and thoughtfulness/wisdom/considerateness. Bind this to RtS)Night[Mare's profile text:
"Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable."
Nightmare gains wisdom/strength by pain (of his victims?). This fits perfectly with Mr.Pink's brutality and sadism, and it also explains Mr.Pink's smartness and good thinking. If you want to take the "supervillain or being with superhuman powers" route, a "Nightmare" or "Incubus" is also a demon, which drains energy from its victim and would probably be a strong fighter.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 19 2008 09:54 GMT
#4903
On April 19 2008 18:16 MTF wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

8-CDRdude
19-ulszz
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)


One of those eight is mafia, and Ulszz/nemY are the only ones we have connected clues with.


I do have another suspect among these, RtS)Night[Mare.
On April 19 2008 02:55 Scorch wrote:
Not a supervillain, but my own take on Mr. Pink
+ Show Spoiler +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" (wisdom, cool-headed planning) commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia (unemotional remark). As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot (gruesome, macabre), the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head (same again). OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter (gained a "level-up" from Mynock's pain?). Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live (energy leeched out of him?).

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (Mr. Pink wants to beat him to death slowly for additional pain, instead of shooting him dead quickly. Mr.Brown obeys because Mr.Pink is considered wise and cold-minded.) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

From this, I extract two major themes: bloodlust/violence/sadism and thoughtfulness/wisdom/considerateness. Bind this to RtS)Night[Mare's profile text:
"Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable."
Nightmare gains wisdom/strength by pain (of his victims?). This fits perfectly with Mr.Pink's brutality and sadism, and it also explains Mr.Pink's smartness and good thinking. If you want to take the "supervillain or being with superhuman powers" route, a "Nightmare" or "Incubus" is also a demon, which drains energy from its victim and would probably be a strong fighter.


I'd say ulszz > NightMare > nemY.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-19 10:17:09
April 19 2008 10:15 GMT
#4908
Wrong. Night[Mare voted for Mandalor too.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 24 2008 13:44 Chuiu wrote:
Final Vote Count:
[...]
Mandalor - 58
Ace
Showtime!
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
clazziquai
ahrara_
Falcynn
ZBiR
unsoundlogic
BWdero
GeneralStan
Scorch
nemY
MidnightGladius
decafchicken
L
Empyrean
Eti307
suresh0t
randombum
Lysithea
French_Toast
New104
Kau
Artanis[Xp]
Ninja4ever.
Naib
JeeJee
Hittegods
SoleSteeler
Romance_us
Plexa
LucasWoJ
Caller
Fishball
RtS)Night[Mare
Jimtudor
GranDim
Lenwe
Alethios
NatsuTerran
0cz3c
Last Romantic
zeks
Pangolin
SpiritoftheTuna
Unforgiven_ve
Energies
BloodyC0bbler
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
Camlito
bumatlarge
fanatacist
ieatkids5
~OpZ~
SonuvBob
Siefu
butidigress

[...]



Edit: I'm too slow, you already found that out yourself
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-19 12:38:50
April 19 2008 12:33 GMT
#4918
On April 19 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:I agree with a lot of the analysis put forward here, except for one thing - the level up part that just sounds.. stupid haha But, i'd like to point you towards the most recent outing of Mr Pink

Show nested quote +
Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ.
The highlighted sections don't seem to mesh that well with nightmare's quote. Most notably the theme of speed (also note how Mr Pink didn't actually beat him?)

If we assume Mr.Pink is indeed an incubus demon, it would work. I did a little research on nightmares and incubi and found out that in different tellings, incubi drain the life out of their victims to sustain themselves (That's what I meant with the level-up part, gaining strength from sucking out his energy. That's why Mynock has no chance against Mr.Pink for the rest of the fight, and dies with no strength left to live.), and that they have sexual intercourse with people in their sleep. While Mr.Pink didn't rape anyone, holding BloodyC0bbler down would fit: Wikipedia states that in fact The word incubo translates into "I lie on top". Furthermore, BloodyC0bbler feels himself dying already before he is caught, probably because the demon has already begun draining his energy from a distance.

I'm not claiming this to be a correct connection and that RtS)Night[Mare absolutely has to be mafia, but I know that I am innocent and try to defend myself by suggesting a plausible alternative.

PS
Fun fact: Incubi are known to have exceptionally cold penises. Nightmare, do you have anything to tell us about your dong?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-20 15:46:18
April 20 2008 15:42 GMT
#4932
L will definitely have to die unless a miracle happens and he somehow manages to save someone tonight.
As for the second lynch, I currently feel the strongest about SoMuchBetter and Dr.Dragoon. But ulszz would probably be the best strategic decision.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 20 2008 15:45 GMT
#4933
On April 21 2008 00:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Scorch's really on my ass haha. There's nothing to do until next day though. No voting on the night.

Nothing personal, I was only saving my own ass. SoleSteeler has taken your place now. I don't think we would have found him without the energy-draining incubus stuff, so... thank you
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 20 2008 18:08 GMT
#4937
Whenever there is a lot of numbers in one place, you can juggle them around to find anything you are looking for. I made the very same suspicion way back on day 4, but have since realized that those numbers aren't suitable evidence. You can fit them to almost anyone you like if a candidate has numbers in his name, date of birth, number in the player list or what have you.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 21 2008 07:45 GMT
#4965
On April 21 2008 16:14 SoleSteeler wrote:
We have other people that have are more likely mafia, so I would ask all of you to at least get rid of those people first, and hopefully more clues will come forth, and you will continue to see that there isn't a shred of evidence that links anything Mr. Pink has done to me.

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. There is evidence against you already now, you wouldn't be accused otherwise. Whether the connection is solid and will be repeated in the upcoming days remains to be seen.
We will lynch other people first, you're not so high up the priority list. If ulszz turns out mafia though, that means Nightmare is innocent, which isn't good for you.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 21 2008 11:10 GMT
#4967
Yeah let's see. When is day? Daytime will probably be fast because we already know almost for sure who to lynch.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 21 2008 12:51 GMT
#4982
Plexa discovered an aspect of soul stealing that means not only draining life energy, but also gaining the target's attributes. Kinda like shapeshifting. Creepy...
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 22 2008 12:17 GMT
#5021
Those mafias are not only reckless murderers, but lazy bums too. Won't you finally send your hit list so we can carry on? You've taken three days already. How much work can it possibly be for 14 people to write up seven names?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 23 2008 07:33 GMT
#5038
Has a double lynch already been declared? I think it's safe to lynch ulszz along with L.
Mr.Blue acted quite nooblike again by finding no entrance in the house, alerting fusionsdf by noisefully kicking in the door and then having lots of trouble actually killing him.
(Don't let yourselves be deceived by ulszz's signature. He only changed it recently and had a quote linking him to Mr.Blue before that.)
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 23 2008 07:45 GMT
#5040
On April 23 2008 15:18 Chuiu wrote:
Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work.

Eddie is clearly the mafia boss, I believe he has the saboteur role. Too bad we don't have a very strong candidate for Eddie.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 23 2008 08:47 GMT
#5044
On April 23 2008 17:10 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2008 15:18 Chuiu wrote:
Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.


Cottonmouth is still irrefutably connected to numbers. I thought the magic number was 44, but today came up 63, so apparently not. I will be reinspecting this post and other day posts shortly.

How do you get to 63? If I add the explicit numbers (bolded in the quote, I hope I didn't overlook anything), they add up to 57.
Is infinity21 confirmed innocent? His name would relate perfectly to a number theme.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 23 2008 12:08 GMT
#5053
On April 23 2008 20:52 Plexa wrote:
place holder

What the hell would you need a placeholder for? I think your quest to bring proper structure into a 253 page thread is doomed to fail.

Regarding Cottonmouth, thanks qrs for your observation. Now what can we deduce from 15 being the magic number? Player #15 was Hittegods, so this is a dead-end. Letter #15 in the alphabet is O, but I don't have anything to tie to that letter. The ASCII symbol for 15 is SI (shift in). Can we make something out of that? I'm quite clueless.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 24 2008 13:42 GMT
#5080
Go all, exercise you right to vote! Think about how frustrating it must be for Chuiu to organize this game and put lots of work into it, and then only 20 or 30 people vote.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 25 2008 09:13 GMT
#5103
Now with L gone, the remaining power roles are probably legit. So far, so good.

If ulszz was innocent, we need a new candidate for Mr.Blue. I found the "noob" route quite convincing, but apparently it wasn't. One of the reasons we killed ulszz so soon was because he was on this list of people (1 mafia among them):
ulszz
araav <--- proved innocent by a detective after the "hacking" incident. Could Ace confirm?
rts)night[mare
infundibilum
ahrara
qrs
nemy
Now who of these could be the bad guy? We have some evidence against NemY and NightMare, but nothing strong. Should we concentrate on other suspects for now?
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