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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 23:51 GMT
#781
On March 19 2008 08:48 HotZhot wrote:
He is the new Tracil IMO, are you Tracil Ace? would fit if he got mafia rol, lol


hahaha look at my profile - been here since 2002.

I'm NOT the new Tracil
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 23:52:31
March 18 2008 23:51 GMT
#782
On March 19 2008 08:47 Wysp wrote:
So come on Empyrean, start dishing us some good shit if you want votes.


Fine. One of my plans to reveal mafia was to ask for a "detective confirmation", in which I would ask, publically all detectives to investigate a bodyguard and PM me the results. I wouldn't reveal that it was a bodyguard.

To all those mafia who thought that they could gain my trust, I could immediately know the identity of any mafia who reported to me, but didn't report that the person was a bodyguard.

Now, of course, that plan's worthless. I was going to keep my plans secret until I was elected, but it's becoming apparent that I have to give some of them away.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 23:57:12
March 18 2008 23:55 GMT
#783
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him

Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 23:56 GMT
#784
On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him


Vharox you bastard.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
March 18 2008 23:57 GMT
#785
On March 19 2008 08:49 Empyrean wrote:
A selfish townie mayor is good for the town - he'll do everything he can to ensure town victory.

Furthermore, as I was going to sleep immediately after my initial post, to only way I could get myself elected was to reveal my role. It's the only way I know of that we would have been guaranteed a townie mayor. While Ace and araav are great choices, I can't know their allegiance. By forcing people to vote for me or face the consequences of losing a detective, I am ensuring a townie mayor.

In case anyone has doubts, please investigate me or ask me to perform some detective duties.

To me, the ends justify the means. That's the sole reason I revealed my role.


+ Show Spoiler [Empyreans post for mayor] +
On March 18 2008 19:33 Empyrean wrote:
I just woke up!

I'm running for mayor as well.

I have previous mafia experience, and have a good idea of how mafia like to conduct things.

Furthermore, I'll take everyone's opinion into consideration, as well as analyze everything myself.

The most important reason, and this is kind of risky saying it, but I am a detective. If I'm elected mayor, I'll be guaranteed to be safe from mafia attacks so I can publish my detective results daily, giving us a large boost. If you want, I can ask some easy questions confirming people's roles so they can back me up. The possibility of a Detective Mayor is something in the town's favor.

Also, if you don't vote for me now, mafia will target me first night and the town'll be down a detective without me even asking anything :[



note in his post for mayor he says he just woke up. now he's saying he had to reveal his role because he was going to sleep. perhaps just a minor mistake but it's a bit contradictory? worth noting perhaps?
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
March 18 2008 23:57 GMT
#786
Ace:

About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like:

mafia 1
mafia 2
mafia 3
bodyguard #

Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know.

Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent?
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:58 GMT
#787
Wow, you shouldn't have revealed that. That's an incredibly thoughtful idea. I guess it sorta confirms your allegiance to the town thinking up that idea.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
March 18 2008 23:58 GMT
#788
The plot thickens!

[quote=Uncovering Ambition]Normally in ARG's, the creator gives a helping hand by using an anonymous account and baiting clues when the players get stumped. I think the staff may be doing the same thing. Possibly using the accounts "Akzent" ie accent, "Leunal", and "Chezinu" [edit added conjonner] Conjonner. All three accounts were created this month ,within three days of each other, and have very few posts.[/quote]
Trust in Bayes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 23:59:47
March 18 2008 23:59 GMT
#789
On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him

Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games.

Are you sure these are not relatives/playing on diffrent comps but utilising the same network or anything? If not, I'm all for the banhammer.
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 19 2008 00:00 GMT
#790
Hot_Bid give it up you have uncovered yourself as mafia, ban=hit IMO, kggnore
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
March 19 2008 00:01 GMT
#791
On March 19 2008 08:57 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 08:49 Empyrean wrote:
A selfish townie mayor is good for the town - he'll do everything he can to ensure town victory.

Furthermore, as I was going to sleep immediately after my initial post, to only way I could get myself elected was to reveal my role. It's the only way I know of that we would have been guaranteed a townie mayor. While Ace and araav are great choices, I can't know their allegiance. By forcing people to vote for me or face the consequences of losing a detective, I am ensuring a townie mayor.

In case anyone has doubts, please investigate me or ask me to perform some detective duties.

To me, the ends justify the means. That's the sole reason I revealed my role.


+ Show Spoiler [Empyreans post for mayor] +
On March 18 2008 19:33 Empyrean wrote:
I just woke up!

I'm running for mayor as well.

I have previous mafia experience, and have a good idea of how mafia like to conduct things.

Furthermore, I'll take everyone's opinion into consideration, as well as analyze everything myself.

The most important reason, and this is kind of risky saying it, but I am a detective. If I'm elected mayor, I'll be guaranteed to be safe from mafia attacks so I can publish my detective results daily, giving us a large boost. If you want, I can ask some easy questions confirming people's roles so they can back me up. The possibility of a Detective Mayor is something in the town's favor.

Also, if you don't vote for me now, mafia will target me first night and the town'll be down a detective without me even asking anything :[



note in his post for mayor he says he just woke up. now he's saying he had to reveal his role because he was going to sleep. perhaps just a minor mistake but it's a bit contradictory? worth noting perhaps?


Ah, good find; I probably just remembered that I would be unable to play for a long period of time - I had to leave for school, so I was away for about seven hours. In either case, my argument is the same. I just have a bad memory.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2008 00:02 GMT
#792
On March 19 2008 08:57 Kau wrote:
Ace:

About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like:

mafia 1
mafia 2
mafia 3
bodyguard #

Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know.

Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent?


They can't because all the other Bodyguards that didn't get a PM would know something is wrong. In the event that they do that, it just helps the town because we can just apply all clues and DT/Jack power to that list of suspects and catch the Mafia asap.

No fake detective is going to spring forward and state the Mayor is innocent because they run the risk at having a real detective also step forward and once again we are back to place where we have confirmed a situation with at least 1 suspect as Mafia (because someone is lying) and a sure fire Mafia lynching.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
March 19 2008 00:03 GMT
#793
On March 19 2008 08:56 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him


Vharox you bastard.


Although it pretty much means that he's a townie.
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 00:07:23
March 19 2008 00:04 GMT
#794
On March 19 2008 08:57 Kau wrote:
Ace:

About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like:

mafia 1
mafia 2
mafia 3
bodyguard #

Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know.

Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent?

Hmm, this seems to be a flaw in the plan.
Edit: @ Ace: He's saying that every bodyguard would get a PM. Their PM would list Mafia members as bodyguards. Each bodyguard's PM would list (the same) fake bodyguards as their colleagues. None of the bodyguards would know the difference.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
March 19 2008 00:04 GMT
#795
Especially since once the real bodyguards complain that they didn't get a PM, other mafia can as well.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 00:07:11
March 19 2008 00:04 GMT
#796
On March 19 2008 08:56 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him


Vharox you bastard.




also so this post isn't a total waste. Here's the latest voting tallies.
Mayor Elections Tally as of March 19 09:00 (TL/Korean time)

Ace - (20)
+ Show Spoiler +

Queasy,ahrara,Lenwe,MasterOfChaos,Fishball,Artanis[Xp],CDRdude,Joxxor,Ghar,
spoinka,Hittegods,Hollander,Naib,useless,GeneralStan,Shadowdrgn,Falcynn,zeks,
Mynock,Caller

Empyrean - (18)
+ Show Spoiler +
Heros)Pink,LucasWoJ,shallow[bay],LoStYouRSkiLLS,KH1031,LastRomantic,ImDerek, Meta,Eti307,Showtime,MTF,BloodyC0bbler,RST)Nightmare,NatsuTerran,Solosteer,
JimTudor,nemy,decafchicken

randombum - (10)
+ Show Spoiler +
Lysithea,Drdragoon,Alethios,G.S)Naruto,Sadir,fanatacist,Bockit,GranDim,Ninja4ever, so no fek

Ghar - (7)
+ Show Spoiler +
TranceStorm,Ace,Pangolin,Mandalor,Amber[Light],rpf,Ziel

araav - (8)
+ Show Spoiler +
AcrossFiveJulys,SonuvBob,RowdierBob,Klive5ive,xdark,Neax,Energies,qsr

Sonuvbob - (4)
+ Show Spoiler +
Chezinu,LTT.wurm,bumatlarge

fusionsdf - (3)
+ Show Spoiler +
~OpZ~ ,plexa,ZBIR

plexa - (2)
+ Show Spoiler +
ssj100,Seifu

LastRomantic - (1)
+ Show Spoiler +
aznvaliance
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
March 19 2008 00:06 GMT
#797
i just noticed i wasn't in this round...

ohwell, its probably for the best as i dont know how active i would be
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2008 00:07 GMT
#798
On March 19 2008 09:04 Empyrean wrote:
Especially since once the real bodyguards complain that they didn't get a PM, other mafia can as well.


And if the Mayor is innocent he'd (which would be confirmed by the DTs silence) then those stupid Mafia that tried to geek the Town would be caught when the Mayor never mentions them on his list.

If any Mafia member false claims they'd be caught red handed fast because this plan does not use 1 person as the word of trust - it uses several with a self checking scheme.

Continue to try and find more holes in it, this is interesting and fun.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
March 19 2008 00:07 GMT
#799
To expand upon Dark.Carnival's post, I made some post before I went to sleep, then after woke up, I revealed my detective and ran for mayor. Either way, it would be hours (seven/eight+) before I could make a response, so I had to ensure my candidacy got noticed.

Check timestamps to confirm my activity.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 00:10:01
March 19 2008 00:08 GMT
#800
On March 19 2008 09:07 Ace wrote:
If any Mafia member false claims they'd be caught red handed fast because this plan does not use 1 person as the word of trust - it uses several with a self checking scheme.


Good point, the only way for the mafia to get around it is to have some mafia roleplay bodyguards and others roleplay detectives.

EDIT: Going to be gone for about an hour.
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