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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 20 2008 06:10 GMT
#1420
oops, I thought detectives can't get their investigation info back until tomorrow, but then I read the role information again.

Tomorrow morning I think will have been long enough for at least one detective to post in case you are mafia. Then we can really get started =).
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 20 2008 22:36 GMT
#1636
On March 21 2008 07:26 French_Toast wrote:
Okay, first of all thanks for insulting me directly, now I have an excuse to put you down. Secondly, are you the type of n00b that when he gets a great game and plays it, he types in cheat codes automatically?

Funny how you get all sensitive when someone insults you, but it's ok for you to be a bitch to everyone else.

I don't really care about what French_Toast has to say. I just hope the townies realize that just a few people being persuaded to not send in their PMs by this possible mafia ploy are going to seriously weaken Ace's plan. It's possible the mafia realize this, and have sent a saboteur in to get enough people upset that the plan doesn't work. Send in your PMs, for everyone's sake.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 21 2008 03:04 GMT
#1692
On March 21 2008 11:18 SonuvBob wrote:
If Ace isn't roleblocked, it'll show up when he votes tomorrow (6 votes vs 1). It'd be a bad idea to lie about that.

It doesn't affect voting.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 21 2008 04:19 GMT
#1701
If you're a DT, you should do investigate ace, period. If you haven't you should do it now. It doesn't matter that we're wasting 4 role checks. It's worth it to make sure that the job is actually done.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 21 2008 23:11 GMT
#1787
On March 22 2008 07:54 GeneralStan wrote:
no way is mafia going to lynch Empyrean. The waste of detective checking on him is enough to keep him alive

Unless Emp actually is a detective and the whole townie thing was a last ditch effort to save himself. If I were mafia, I'd figure it's more valuable to kill Emp than to risk letting a detective go free.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 04:42 GMT
#1821
Chuiu, have my babies?

I don't know whether to be relieved or hurt the mafia doesn't think I'm worth killing.

Since I don't like dealing with clues, I'll let other people worry about that. Some things I noticed though --

6 people dead, meaning either the mafia chose not to use all its killing power, or they chose to use more than one kill on at least one of the dead people, or they attacked somebody with at least 3 paramedics defending. I think the last option is the most likely. I strongly feel that the protected person was Empyrean. There is nobody else they'd have a reason to send more than one guy after, and given Emp's claim as a townie, they probably didn't want to risk wasting a suicide bomber on him. Now that they found he's being protected, they might read that as either he is actually a detective or that he's worth sending a suicide bomber after. Either way, I think it vindicates Emp.

Or maybe I'm missing something. I get the feeling I'm missing something.

Another point is that the mafia don't appear that smart this game. They killed people who were under heavy suspicion, notably CTStalker and oneBlueAugust. I was ready to vote against him on the basis of the grudge clue alone. They did not kill people whose analysis was more helpful, like carnival and shallow. I'm sorry mynock's gone. His posts were usually worth reviewing.

I'm interested in seeing what our clue interpreters pick up.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 04:45 GMT
#1827
Oh. Right. That'll teach me to skim posts.

And that'll teach blues to lynch/kill people without better evidence.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 04:56 GMT
#1842
It sucks we've lost two blues, but I think today's worth celebrating. In all respects, the town got the better of the mafia. For some reason, they weren't able to use all their kills, most likely because they hit somebody who was very well protected. We're pulling ahead, if only slightly. Remember that detectives now get to ask more questions, since they used up the first on Ace. As a town, I think there are a few things we should focus on to make sure we get the bad guys:

1. Matching clues to people with suspicious behavior and detective information. I don't say clue interpretation because as CTStalker's case has shown, even the most apparently strong clues are "right" only half the time. If we do have a clue that seems very strong, I'm sure Ace will have a detective investigate it. We should never lynch on the basis of a clue alone.

2. PM Ace your roles. WTF seriously, you should've done this already, especially if you're a blue.

3. Hold your horses and don't lynch/kill/plant a bomb unless you're sure, based on more than just clues, that the person is mafia.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 05:00 GMT
#1845
On March 22 2008 13:54 L wrote:
Also: The medics on emp and emp himself will know if he was targetted, so the medics can pm ace to tell him if emp was targetted or not.

This is information Ace is probably not going to reveal publicly, unless a bandwagon gets started with Emp on top. So I'm just speculating.

Anyway, Emp was my top suspect until now.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 05:04 GMT
#1849
On March 22 2008 14:01 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Yogurt did the right thing. He could only plant one bomb a night but could remove them at any time so the best strategy was to plant a bomb on the most suspicious person, which was CTStalker. Yogurt being randomly killed and CTStalker being a Jack were both really bad luck, just like your lynching of incontrol. Good strategy, bad luck.

No, it's just as shitty of a strategy as lynching people on a whim. Planting a bomb is just as good as killing somebody. I admit I was sold on Stalker's clue, and would've voted for him if there were no other suspects, but I still think clues alone are the weakest thing to go on. Nobody should kill somebody if all we have against them is a clue.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 05:12 GMT
#1854
The 44-str clue seems pretty strong
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 06:36 GMT
#1891
Do you have any idea how many people hit you?

I was sure the saved person was Empyrean. If it wasn't, then that's a very good reason to suspect him.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 22 2008 17:46 GMT
#1980
Hahahaha.

Good game Ghar. And I almost voted for you.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 23 2008 06:50 GMT
#2078
On March 23 2008 14:37 Ace wrote:
ok time to go, my ride is here. later people!

Our mayor doesn't have a license .
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 23 2008 20:47 GMT
#2171
I trust Ace and I agree with his logic. At the same time, I understand why some people are frustrated about his request to withdraw votes for Ghar. In case it's not already clear, there are two reasons Ace's request is a good idea.

First, Ace is trying to maintain order and establish discipline. He's not defending Ghar on a whim. While I think it's clear that Ghar is mafia, I also realize that townie discipline will be crucial to making sure we don't lynch the wrong people on a bandwagon. I strongly urge everybody to listen to Ace. If it comes down to the last hour and there's no response, then we simply lynch Ghar anyway.

Second, Ace is trying to make sure that Ghar is mafia in fact. I personally buy the clue completely, but it never hurts to double check. If everybody votes for Ghar right now, and it turns out he's innocent at the last minute, then there's nothing we can do about it. If most people abstain, then we'll be able to save Ghar and lynch a real mafioso.

As for Ace's innocence, there's a remote possibility he's actually mafia. We have to keep this possibility open. Again, I urge any detective that has not investigated Ace already to do so now, just in the off chance that the three other detectives have not already done so. Still, since we have nothing better to go off of, we have very good reason to trust him. If Ace were mafia, I don't think he'd be stupid enough to risk his credibility defending an obvious mafia like Ghar. One Mafia alone isn't worth it. (Anyway, when he votes, we'll see if he's actually roleblocked. You are going to vote, right Ace?) He certainly would NOT be trying to establish order in the town.

Finally, there's some of you that need to manner up. We're all in this game for fun. Part of what takes away from that is a bunch of people acting like 15 year olds. If you disagree with somebody, bring it up in public, and do it respectfully. I don't want to read your whiny, unpunctuated bullshit on this thread or in my mailbox. If you can't understand that this is a game and people are playing it to have fun, then get the fuck out.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 23 2008 21:02 GMT
#2190
On March 24 2008 05:59 Ace wrote:
I'm not going to lynch Ghar solely on the fact that we've got a much more sure fire situation in catching Mafia on our hands right now.

Are you investigating Ghar at least? I read your post from before, but I think Ghar's clue is a much more "sure fire" case. I think for the sake of your credibility, you should encourage Ghar's lynching.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 23 2008 21:33 GMT
#2207
I'm voting for Mandalor, but if it doesn't work out I'm not going to follow you on blind faith anymore. I hope you get a vigilante on Ghar.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 23 2008 21:54 GMT
#2230
LYNCH THE BASTARD
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 24 2008 04:19 GMT
#2384
On March 24 2008 13:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Is it me, or did the vanilla get really boring fast. I'd like to be independent and look at clues and vote for people i think are mafia, but with ace as mayor, and all the blues knowing whos who and working together, I'm fairly bored. Now I honestly want to stir shit, because It's becoming a spectator sport townies, and then voting for who ace tells us too, cause he's basically a guaranteed townie. I wish Emp was mayor, that would have been fun. No offense ace...

Ya, I kinda agree. I think the town's ability to organize really hurts the fun of the game. Last game was awesome to follow because of all the drama. It was exciting to see mandalor get caught, and it was a clever move on ace's part but meh, I get the feeling the rest of the game is going to be straightforward, with mafia after mafia being caught because of clues.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 24 2008 16:41 GMT
#2490
IIRC chobo made a post on the last page asking chuiu if he would count votes that were edited. I'm also pretty sure I saw him abstain before he voted mandalor, but I can't remember when. Sorry to disappoint you =(.
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