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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 24 2008 16:48 GMT
#2501
On March 25 2008 01:45 Ace wrote:
Honestly, what was araav offering that made any kind of sense?

being able to write a script doesn't help you win Mafia games.

In these games, clues can help find mafiosi and having a master list of profiles and relevant info seems like it should be very helpful in matching the clues with people. Put it this way: maybe I'm overrating it, but if I was Mafia, I would prefer not to have a master list like that out there. If araav hadn't done it? Maybe someone else would have. Maybe not.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 24 2008 16:51 GMT
#2502
We can argue about how suspicious araav is (I don't suspect him at all; Ace does), but we don't have anything like the severed-head clue pointing to him at the moment. If araav is the best we have, I will be voting for Ghar in the next lynch. Might be worth setting a detective on the severed-head clue.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
March 24 2008 16:58 GMT
#2503
On March 25 2008 01:48 ahrara_ wrote:
I can see why the mafia would want to field a fake medic, then they would be in on who's being saved. But a veteran??? What the hell?

To discredit other veterans for example? And cause confusion?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 24 2008 17:05 GMT
#2504
plus veterans have no active abilities to prove their role. thus, a mafia infiltrator isn't in danger of blowing his cover by failing to complete a certain task.
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 24 2008 17:10 GMT
#2505
Of the roles, it seems vet is the hardest to disprove, followed by medic.
I don't know of any way a vet can prove he's a vet unless the town does something stupid like send a vigilante on him. It almost guarantees safety from lynching if they isn't any role clashing.
When there is a clash, you have a list of suspects but it is unfeasible to check.

Medic role claimers, from a mafia perspective, so long as they avoid the names they've been sent to protect, they strengthen the notion that they are legit medics.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 17:10 GMT
#2506
On March 25 2008 01:48 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 01:45 Ace wrote:
Honestly, what was araav offering that made any kind of sense?

being able to write a script doesn't help you win Mafia games.

In these games, clues can help find mafiosi and having a master list of profiles and relevant info seems like it should be very helpful in matching the clues with people. Put it this way: maybe I'm overrating it, but if I was Mafia, I would prefer not to have a master list like that out there. If araav hadn't done it? Maybe someone else would have. Maybe not.


Thats the thing, several people have already done it. It would have been done so how does that skill help to catch Mafia?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 17:13 GMT
#2507
On March 25 2008 02:10 Ghar wrote:


Medic role claimers, from a mafia perspective, so long as they avoid the names they've been sent to protect, they strengthen the notion that they are legit medics.


almost.

If they have to kill a certain target I ask them to protect things get tricky.

They don't know how many other medics are protecting that target, or if they are the only one.

They also cant chance a suicide bomber since they can't find the prime target.

^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 17:13 GMT
#2508
Vets can be flushed out also, just takes a bit more time.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 17:14 GMT
#2509
On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.

I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:

araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses


Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me?

btw, sick job on the lynching
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 24 2008 17:18 GMT
#2510
Fielding a vet is just bad strategy. They have no useful abilities, so they can't gain any information. When you have 2 real vets but 3 people report as a vet, then you have three strong suspects. Mafia need to protect their numbers as much as possible. Given that, fielding a vet wasn't a smart idea for them.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 24 2008 17:20 GMT
#2511
On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.

I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:

araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses


Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me?


Now I wanna know too.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 17:24:49
March 24 2008 17:20 GMT
#2512
It is still pretty helpful when they lie about being a vet/medic because it really narrows the search down.

It would have been a lot harder if they were posing as a regular townie, or someone who pretends to be inactive because those ratios are ten times higher.

Ace doesn't have to disclose any information to the vets or medics, so it's fine.

They are only damaging themselves because they have become primary targets for investigation.

We have far more info from the clues and other subtleties on other mafia members to lynch/execute them already.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
March 24 2008 17:23 GMT
#2513
On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.

I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:

araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses


Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me?

btw, sick job on the lynching


I'd say it would be cool if Ace pasted this whole file... but only AFTER the game ended.
Now saying anything unnecessary could be helpful to mafia.

On March 25 2008 02:18 ahrara_ wrote:
Fielding a vet is just bad strategy. They have no useful abilities, so they can't gain any information. When you have 2 real vets but 3 people report as a vet, then you have three strong suspects. Mafia need to protect their numbers as much as possible. Given that, fielding a vet wasn't a smart idea for them.


Wrong.
Risk of getting caught as a vet is very slim, still it harasses the town. It's a good trade for the mafia.

Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 17:28 GMT
#2514
On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.

I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:

araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses


Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me?

btw, sick job on the lynching



Shallow[Bay] - very off the wall, but is posting clues which helps. He may be a hidden weapon against Mafia if he would stop being so crazy.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 17:35 GMT
#2515
On March 25 2008 02:28 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.

I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:

araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses


Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me?

btw, sick job on the lynching



Shallow[Bay] - very off the wall, but is posting clues which helps. He may be a hidden weapon against Mafia if he would stop being so crazy.


haha sick, "hidden weapon against Mafia". Thanks :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 24 2008 17:42 GMT
#2516
No...Mr. Blonde didn't attack like a dragon...He attacked like a scourge, just didn't blow himself up like one...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 17:45:09
March 24 2008 17:44 GMT
#2517
Wrong.
Risk of getting caught as a vet is very slim, still it harasses the town. It's a good trade for the mafia.

Wrong. When there's nothing else to go off of, and there are clues pointing vaguely at one of the three, then you're going to get picked off next.

And it doesn't cause any confusion that's useful. Who cares who the vets are?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
March 24 2008 17:57 GMT
#2518
The reason mafia would pose as vets is because the vets extra lives ability hurts the mafia a lot. The easiest way to get rid of veterans is to get them lynched, which makes the lives ability useless. What better way to do so than pose as a veteran and cause confusion?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 17:58 GMT
#2519
On March 25 2008 02:57 unsoundlogic wrote:
The reason mafia would pose as vets is because the vets extra lives ability hurts the mafia a lot. The easiest way to get rid of veterans is to get them lynched, which makes the lives ability useless. What better way to do so than pose as a veteran and cause confusion?


Just to make this clear for me, you're saying that they'd pose as a Veteran in order to cast doubt on the real Veterans, in the hopes that a real one will get lynched and save them the hits?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 17:59:39
March 24 2008 17:58 GMT
#2520
Ha. Bloody unlikely for us to lynch a vet until we have ample proof that they are lying and that is a lot easier than you may think!!

His name leaves nothing to the imagination shallow.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
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