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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 24 2008 19:34 GMT
#2541
Oh yeah, I forgot about that Shallow. Good point, nevermind then.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
str
Profile Joined July 2007
Bulgaria192 Posts
March 24 2008 19:36 GMT
#2542
so my exams are over, lets see how long it takes for me to catch up on 127 pages of wild accusations
no units = no power
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 24 2008 19:55 GMT
#2543
Oi....I hate being told what to do like that. Granted, it is a good way to catch the mafia...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 24 2008 19:57 GMT
#2544

Ghar List - 7

useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
ShadowDrgn
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
Evilmonkey

If the Mafia knew what they were doing, they wouldn't hit any of these 7 tonight. If they did, say 1 died, then that narrows it down to 1 out of 6, better than 1 in 7. If more from that list die, that narrows down the list and increases odds of cornering scum.
I think that Mafia are going to hit those who are on neither list, just so they can keep the odds of being found out as low as possible.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17031 Posts
March 24 2008 20:01 GMT
#2545
Actually, it would probably make more sense to do the following:

Before I start, keep in mind that even if someone is mafia, a clue that seems to point at them may point at someone else (like last game, the bowing clue - people thought it pointed to me but it didn't. Any detective investigating that would have found that the clue didn't relate to me. People would probably have some sort of cognitive bias and think that I wasn't mafia).

Have each of the top suspects target someone else random completely. It's similar to Ace's plan, but each of the four detectives can ask "how many mafia voted for ____"? and after they find that out, we'll surely know if they're townie or not. Easy way for detectives to use role-check after they've exhausted the initial two.
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 20:04:33
March 24 2008 20:04 GMT
#2546
I wouldn't expect the mafia to hit any of those in the first place.

We're guaranteeing the 'actives' safety to a certain extent.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17031 Posts
March 24 2008 20:05 GMT
#2547
What I mean is for each suspect and only that one suspect target someone random so they'll only have that suspect's vote. They can either comply and be found innocent or "lol im outa town!" and be thought guilty. Then we can cross-check some earlier clues/lists/etc. to make more decisions from there.
Moderator
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 20:14:24
March 24 2008 20:11 GMT
#2548
Based on my calculations:

103 townies left. 19 scum left. Since 7 are on Ghar and 58 are on Mandalor, that leaves 122-65=57 targets left to hit. Because 1 scum is on Ghar and 10 are on Mandalor, that leaves 19-11=8 scum to exclude from those 57. That leaves the mafia with 57-8=49 viable targets tonight.

edit: my bad. it's 122, not 103 at start.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 20:12:30
March 24 2008 20:12 GMT
#2549
Thing about that is some of our main suspects aren't on those lists.

We're trying to narrow it down more and hell, it's a way to protect actives. Its possible that we have 14 mafia members already figured out if our suspicions are correct.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 20:12 GMT
#2550
it's not 30. One of them is lying about being a medic, so they have their idea as to who is being protected tonight so if they mess up oh shit!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 24 2008 20:17 GMT
#2551
I'm just trying to present a percentage for those whose name wasn't on either of those lists. Since mafia can hit for a maximum of 9 targets right now, for those whose name wasn't shown, that means:

9/49, which equates to a maximum 18.4% of dying tonight.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 24 2008 20:18 GMT
#2552
yeah, the odds aren't in their favor. I'm still kind of weirded out by this mafia list thing and how it works exactly. So they are allowed to provide a list of 9 people to target? Lets say they pick 5 or even 3. So if they pick five how does the split work? Does the person at the list pretty much automatically die if they push all their members on them if they have protection?

If it's three well shit son I guess all three would die because you would have at least 6 on one person.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 24 2008 20:21 GMT
#2553
On March 25 2008 05:18 Showtime! wrote:
yeah, the odds aren't in their favor. I'm still kind of weirded out by this mafia list thing and how it works exactly. So they are allowed to provide a list of 9 people to target? Lets say they pick 5 or even 3. So if they pick five how does the split work? Does the person at the list pretty much automatically die if they push all their members on them if they have protection?

If it's three well shit son I guess all three would die because you would have at least 6 on one person.


it goes like this:

To: Chuiu
From: Mafia leader, Eddie

Here is our kill list for tonight:

1. suspect 1
2. suspect 2
3. suspect 3
4. showtime!
5. shallowbay
6.
7.
8.
9.


If they send that list, they only use 5 hits, therefore, if they want to hit shallow twice, it should look like this

1. suspect 1
2. suspect 2
3. suspect 3
4. showtime!
5. shallowbay
6. shallowbay
7.
8.
9.

and if they really wanted to kill shallow:

1. shallowbay
2. shallowbay
3. shallowbay
4. shallowbay
5. shallowbay
6. shallowbay
7. shallowbay
8. shallowbay
9. shallowbay

If they leave any slot blank, they dont kill anyone on the list twice, its just a no kill period.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 20:24 GMT
#2554
Waiiiiiiit a second.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 24 2008 20:24 GMT
#2555
On March 25 2008 05:18 Showtime! wrote:
yeah, the odds aren't in their favor. I'm still kind of weirded out by this mafia list thing and how it works exactly. So they are allowed to provide a list of 9 people to target? Lets say they pick 5 or even 3. So if they pick five how does the split work? Does the person at the list pretty much automatically die if they push all their members on them if they have protection?

If it's three well shit son I guess all three would die because you would have at least 6 on one person.


Well, that's the pro and con side to targeting less people for the mafia. Targeting less means less dying and more people left alive to discuss ideas. That's the con. The pro is that the mafia are near guaranteeing someone's death if they assign more hits to a single target. They would usually do this if they knew someone was a certain role and needed to die.

The same goes for the converse. The con to targeting more is the increased likelihood of someone being saved by a paramedic. The pro is the options for the mafia are more open and they can see who was saved and paint the target the next night for a nuclear strike.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-24 20:25:22
March 24 2008 20:24 GMT
#2556
ah I see now I get it. Cool. That makes life a lot easier shit. Mafia is pretty much screwed then.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
March 24 2008 20:25 GMT
#2557
Haha, I suspect the day post writeup for that last scenario would be quite epic :D
Trust in Bayes.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 24 2008 20:26 GMT
#2558
That was too funny. Haha Shallowbay. ;p
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 20:27 GMT
#2559
On March 25 2008 05:25 MidnightGladius wrote:
Haha, I suspect the day post writeup for that last scenario would be quite epic :D


It would probably involve the KGB and thermonuclear weaponry.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 24 2008 20:31 GMT
#2560
I'd suspect that day post would be something like:

Shallowbay gets shanked. Comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets gunned down and buried. Comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets incinerated. Comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets his crotch kicked numerous times. Comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets decapitated and has his body parts and organs chopped up and shipped to different parts of the world. Somehow comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets thrown off the Chrysler building. Does a matrix bounce off the concrete floor, dies, comes back to life.
Shallowbay gets a massive heart attack. Comes back to life.
Shallowbay has too much fun with female associates of the mafia and dies from drunken sex and fellatio. Comes back to life.

The mafia get tired of this resurrection shit, buy some liquid concrete and bury Shallow alive in a hole.

The End
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
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