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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2008 21:29 GMT
#2581
On March 25 2008 06:28 Kau wrote:
Do you have enough suspects to just split the big group into 4 groups of 14 or 15 people? Because the 1 out of 7 in the other "pen" is already a pretty good ratio to work with.



possibly
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 24 2008 21:36 GMT
#2582
On March 25 2008 06:13 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 06:07 qrs wrote:
On March 25 2008 04:03 Ace wrote:
Update

This is the plan for the next Day (the person who came up with this idea will remain anonymous, i just improved on it a bit).

In addition to that plan, we'll also be splitting the Mandalor Vote. The top 29(excluding me) will vote on Suspect#1 and the bottom 29 will vote on Suspect#2. These suspects will be revealed after tonight. Just like above, anyone who doesn't follow the plan we have no choice but to cast suspicion on them.

Double count the #s because my counting may be off. Here's the list:


Suspect#1 -29
Showtime!
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
clazziquai
ahrara_
Falcynn
ZBiR
unsoundlogic
BWdero
GeneralStan
Scorch
nemY
MidnightGladius
decafchicken
L
Empyrean
Eti307
suresh0t
randombum
Lysithea
French_Toast
New104
Kau
Artanis[Xp]
Ninja4ever.
Naib
JeeJee
Hittegods
SoleSteeler


Suspect#2 -29
Romance_us
Plexa
LucasWoJ
Caller
Fishball
RtS)Night[Mare
Jimtudor
GranDim
Lenwe
Alethios
NatsuTerran
0cz3c
Last Romantic
zeks
Pangolin
SpiritoftheTuna
Unforgiven_ve
Energies
BloodyC0bbler
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
Camlito
bumatlarge
fanatacist
ieatkids5
~OpZ~
SonuvBob
Siefu
butidigress

Any questions, comments or concerns let them be known.

Once again, if you go against this plan we have no choice but to cast suspicions on you.
Comment/concern: Sounds like a plan, but it should not come at the expense of lynching a mafioso tomorrow. Right now, as far as I'm concerned, Ghar is the prime suspect, at least until a detective tells us that the severed head did not point to him. If Ghar is suspect #1 or suspect #2, or if there is a stronger case pointing to them than to Ghar, I'll go along with the vote.

The reason why is because investigating Ghar whether he is innocent or not right now only gets us 1 possible Mafia, whereas this method gets us 11.
Sure, but we can do both: simply make Ghar either Suspect #1 or Suspect #2 and proceed with the plan. Unless you have better suspects by the time tomorrow comes, I can't see a reason not to do that.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
March 24 2008 21:44 GMT
#2583
On March 25 2008 01:51 qrs wrote:
We can argue about how suspicious araav is (I don't suspect him at all; Ace does), but we don't have anything like the severed-head clue pointing to him at the moment. If araav is the best we have, I will be voting for Ghar in the next lynch. Might be worth setting a detective on the severed-head clue.


that is if a vigi doesnt frag him in the night
Teamliquidian townie
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 24 2008 21:55 GMT
#2584
On March 25 2008 06:44 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
that is if a vigi doesnt frag him in the night
Yeah. I don't think one should.
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 03:36 qrs wrote:
On a different subject: TO ALL VIGILANTES AND/OR ACE: re vigilante strategy, I'd like to suggest that we not use up vigilante kills until we have more suspects than we can deal with through lynches. For instance, at the moment, Ghar seems like a very strong suspect, but after him, the evidence on everyone else who has been brought up is a lot weaker. It might seem attractive for a vigilante to get a sure kill by killing Ghar tonight, but if the day comes, and we haven't yet figured out a sure lynch (or two) and waste the lynch on a townie, the vig kill will essentially have been wasted. As the game goes on and we/Ace figure more things out, we will probably have more suspects (as in the first game) than we can handle at one time, and then the vig kills will come in handy. When there's a line for the first cash register, that's when it's time to open the second.

'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 24 2008 22:40 GMT
#2585
I don't think we should drag this game out an extra day if we don't have to.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 24 2008 22:43 GMT
#2586
On March 25 2008 07:40 Showtime! wrote:
I don't think we should drag this game out an extra day if we don't have to.


I agree, the faster we lynch the scum, the faster I can get a role that can do something cool.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
March 24 2008 22:50 GMT
#2587
Imagine if we still had our two mad hatters.
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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
March 24 2008 23:10 GMT
#2588
I've said it before, i'll say it again... the mad hatter role seems like such a liability.

It's the whole "If I die, lynch x" thing, roled up into one action. Problem is, by killing the person when they are saying that (assuming x isn't mafia), they effectively kill two people instead of one.

Flawed role.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
March 24 2008 23:22 GMT
#2589
On March 25 2008 07:40 Showtime! wrote:
I don't think we should drag this game out an extra day if we don't have to.

Well I guess theres at least 3 reasons why chuiu might wait for tomorrow
1. Mafia might not have send their list yet
2.Paramedic might not have said who they want to protect
3.Giving the chance to vigilantes to kill someone if they werent active today
Addicted
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 24 2008 23:24 GMT
#2590
On March 25 2008 08:10 Alethios wrote:
I've said it before, i'll say it again... the mad hatter role seems like such a liability.

It's the whole "If I die, lynch x" thing, roled up into one action. Problem is, by killing the person when they are saying that (assuming x isn't mafia), they effectively kill two people instead of one.

Flawed role.

No more flawed than a vigilante's role. No more flawed than town's ability to lynch, for that matter. Of course, if you plant the bombs before you're sure someone is Mafia, you risk killing a townie, the same way that vigilantes risk killing townies and the town risks lynching townies. As long as the mad hatter role is used well, it's just another way of killing Mafia. That can't be bad for the town.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 24 2008 23:41 GMT
#2591
I decided to analyze the 7 people who voted for Ghar in the last lynch. Even though 1/7 is slightly worse odds then 19/103 it is still easier to examine a smaller sample I will put them in order of my suspicion.

1. ShadowDrgn: One of the best fits for Mr. Blonde, he comes from nowhere like a shadow
and swoops like a dragon. Seems to be somewhat active but I don’t remember anything
particularly helpful that he said. His public profile doesn’t really say anything that I could link to a clue.

2. useLess: Could possibly be sidewinder, although the connections are admittedly kinda weak. Sidewinder has been very useless so far for the mafia, he got tossed on the first night and kicked aside the second night. He is from the USA and so is the Sidewinder snake. Also Sidewinder may have been connected to the sticky goo that was on the ground. UseLess’ quote says that his favorite book is organic chemistry so that could possibly connect to the sticky goo. I don’t remember seeing him post but I haven’t gone back and checked everything yet.

3-5. Imderek, evilmonkey, and Trancestorm all haven’t posted at all since the game started as far as I can tell. I hit the all button and used the search function but it wasn’t really all posts so I’m not sure if they have posted more recently.

6. AznValiance: No clues. His posts have varied in usefulness but he seems to be genuinely trying to help the town.

7. Alventenie: No clues. Has posted some very useful clue analysis and various other mafia related information. He has helped the town from what I have seen.
It's easier not to.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 24 2008 23:48 GMT
#2592
This game is so difficult-_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 24 2008 23:57 GMT
#2593
For the mafia? We seem to be doing incredibly well. Everything Ace does is cutting the mafia's escape plans. I'm seriously doubting we're going to lose, and Ace is making it look easy.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 25 2008 00:11 GMT
#2594
On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:
This game is so difficult-_-


Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 25 2008 00:25 GMT
#2595
On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:If anything its too easy and has become boring.


Maybe you should get yourself suspected of being mafia then.

I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 00:29 GMT
#2596
On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:
This game is so difficult-_-


Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring.

Analysis made by townies can still be very useful. As a pardoner, your role could also be used effectively. The reason we follow Ace isn't just because he is mayor, it's because he has the best plan right now - that doesn't mean that it can't run into complications, or that there aren't things that you or anyone else could do to make it more efficient. If you lean back and kick your shoes off and don't try to be constructive, of course this game won't be fun and will be too easy, given the fine leadership shown by Ace.

By the way, I don't mean you in the sense that it's just YOU, randombum. I meant it as a universal "you," if you get what I'm saying. I'm foreign so it's hard for me to explain myself Dx Sorry.
Peace~
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 25 2008 00:33 GMT
#2597
On March 25 2008 09:25 ShadowDrgn wrote:

I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven.


Personally I don't really buy zeks as Mr. Blonde. He was the one with the spiderman quote right? Well that may work for day 2 but day 1 it said "as if coming from nowhere". It is still possible that it is zeks, but I find it much more likely to be Ninja4ever or you.
It's easier not to.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
March 25 2008 00:34 GMT
#2598
On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:
This game is so difficult-_-


Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring.

You can act as I do to spice things up a bit
Addicted
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
March 25 2008 00:53 GMT
#2599
we dont need morons to spice things up
Teamliquidian townie
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 25 2008 00:55 GMT
#2600
well i'm glad you guys didnt lynch ghar, but alas i will be dead come morning.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
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