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Hittegods
Stockholm4640 Posts
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy. I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
Don't forget the part with betaben: betaben was in the kitchen mixing an alcoholic beverage for his enjoyment and the aid in his hopefully soon coming sleep allowing him to not dread his mind with the thoughts of Mafioso. Also refers to a nightmare. I think 2 clues pointing somewhat to RtS)Night[Mare should allow a double lynching today. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:28 Hittegods wrote: If you have "100% sure" info on three mafia members, you deserve to die for not revealing them. It would both be good for the town, and a way to get off the hook yourself. It would not get me off the hook. I'd get lynched anyways, just for kicks. I'm going to go to bed, and I'll be busy later. Maybe I'll still be alive by then. | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:29 Alventenie wrote: Don't forget the part with betaben: betaben was in the kitchen mixing an alcoholic beverage for his enjoyment and the aid in his hopefully soon coming sleep allowing him to not dread his mind with the thoughts of Mafioso. Also refers to a nightmare. I think 2 clues pointing somewhat to RtS)Night[Mare should allow a double lynching today. Nice find. Didn't get that on the first (and second) read-through.  | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:28 Tracil wrote: ...you'd rather live and lose than die and win. That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy. I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness. I think that's justified when your teammates are the ones who take your ankle and proceed to put you out of commission. | ||
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Vharox
United States1037 Posts
Yet another clue referring to "prey"... Aka falcynn... Aka mafioso :O | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I think that's justified when your teammates are the ones who take your ankle and proceed to put you out of commission. Sounds petty to me. Essentially you are saying even though your teammates are knocking you out of the race/game/whatever, you would rather watch them go down in flames, just because you can't be alive and win? That is extremely selfish imho, and to me it sounds like you never wanted the town to win, even when Shallow posted that PM, in all your defense, you continually tried to defend yourself, and then you voted for fakesteve, who by the graces didn't lynch you in the first place, and you still lived to day 2 because the mafia didn't target you (which could mean you are mafia, or they knew we would lynch you, so didn't bother killing you). And now, you still continue your defense, this time saying you have information of mafioso for 100% guarantee and won't help your team out? Honestly I pretty sure people will be happy that you are lynched because of your bad attitude, rather than suspecting you being mafia. It's a game, and you are getting more worked up that people are lynching you in a game because of decent to good evidence against you, and rather than try and point to people who have more evidence than yourself, you just proceed to sit there and boast how you have information and won't post it unless you live. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
<-> I changed my mind on clues after a bit; it's kind of dumb of me to just ignore them. By the same token, I won't be putting much faith in them. Still. I went through both posts with one thing in mind; we're looking for members of the mafia. Therefore, rather than look at random stuff like 'it's valentines day soon' and connect it to scum, I decided to pay attention to the traits and actions demonstrated by the mafioso as they go about their business. Here we go. I'm not actually going out of my way to link these to particular people- but I did want to sort out what I thought *could* be actual clues on identity from the text. Any of these could be a red herring etc. A lot of these have been mentioned before, I know. I'll post updates periodically if people uncover new things, and certainly I'll try to get one out after each clue post. day 1 -One Missed a kick due to muddy boots, lost balance. (clumsy, misses) -One has no patience for immaturity -One stabs people, Chuiu was a thorn in his side. -"You're never going to be trusted iaaaagh"- iaaaagh possible reference to name? -DapperDan was a spy amongst them (friends with a member of the mafia?) -One used Dan's own gun against him, was filled with blanks -Pushed Dan from shadows (stealthy bastard) -'That was low, even for you' , 'all is fair' (one mafioso has no qualms about his methods) -One mafioso took a bow. (paying respects; theatrical bent) day 2 -mahini was held down with great strength (strong dude, obviously) -A serum was used on him (doctor/scientist/experimental guy) -Mafia seem to be looking for a test subject of some kind -Phone lines were cut -killer of evan had the most precise control; his throat was slit -one man trapped krohm in a sleeping bag and dropped him out a window (one guy has a weird way of killing people o-o) -betaben was woken up before his death; he was killed by his head being shoved into a pot of boiling water (one mafioso is a sadist) -artofmagic was sliced in two; some kind of powerful weapon was involved (this implies a large blade of some kind) -another mafioso used a townies own gun against him (kara's) (a thief, perhaps?) | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
hmmm, gonna read the text once more and look for clues (please hit Enter more often while typing, it's sort of hard to read imho) | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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Puosu
6984 Posts
On February 16 2008 20:10 So no fek wrote: Just making a wild guess here, and keeping a little in the StarCraft theme we obviously have here at TL.Net..... Maybe the strange serum was the mafia trying out their new stim packs. :o SAY YES TO STIM KIDS! Sounds familiar.. | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
Let's see. Nightmare claimed to trust me at one point, and yet he had a vote on SMB for mayor- one he didn't change even after this statement. Nightmare also seems to advocate passive play in general; he encouraged Dragoon to 'lay low' when the heat was on him (this is suboptimal; when the heat is on you, that is the moment to really get talkative) and generally adopted a 'wait and see' approach with regard to how we determine lynch; basically, he said we should 'wait for more clues' rather than try to lynch mafia right now. Granted, this was day 1, when we *couldn't* lynch... but the phrasing of his posts didn't seem to indicate that. Finally, he encouraged paramedics to go hit Live2Win. I said way earlier that we SHOULDN'T do this, and there are good reasons! 1) If a paramedic is protecting one of the mafia, their ability is actually useless; ergo, even though it may not actually be, it can *seem* scummy to encourage doc protection on specific targets. 2) Paramedics are supposed to keep people alive, which isn't going to happen if *the mafia know who the paramedics are targeting and thus hit other people.* So, yeah. NightMare doesn't look that great. He's posted depressingly little... like so many others, however. Got any response, NightMare? I'm pretty miffed that you claimed to trust me but kept voting for SMB; this is a case of actions not lining up with words. Why'd you not vote for me? | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
Saving as png by itself is not strange. It is the best format for this purpose. "I'd rather live and lose then die and win" is an attitute with which the town cannot win. (I don't play) | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
Altough I remember Nightmare's posts (can't recall particular ones) to be somewhat suspicious... Like he either didn't get how to play as Townie, or was a Mafia. So I vote for RtS)Night[Mare to be lynched. Go Fakesteve, use your powers! You have 4 uses of double lynch, the game shouldn't last longer than ~8 I'd say. Furthermore, there is a lot of Mafia kills and town only gets 1, which makes us decide only in 14% of targets (not counting vigilantes' kills, up to 6 in entire game). It would be much better if we had 2/8 -> 25% of the killing decision power. | ||
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
On February 16 2008 16:32 Dapperdan wrote: Veterans are another way that less hits could happen. You guys need to pay more attention the the first post.  Be more clear about your vote. Maybe chuiu understands who 'DD' is, but I certainly don't. There's no reason to be unnecessarily ambigious. I already voted in page 58, so i felt lazy and didn't want to type out Dragoon. maybe you missed it. | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
I also vote for RtS)Night[Mare to be lynched. Funny how my accusation of RtS)Night[Mare was believed when I thought that my "mahnini was lynched by two people" theory was more concrete. | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
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Empyrean
16950 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:52 Tracil wrote: I changed my mind on clues after a bit; it's kind of dumb of me to just ignore them. By the same token, I won't be putting much faith in them. Still. [clues] Just woke up. This was a good post which combined all the clues we "know" so far. It's interesting that there are TWO instances in which a mafioso used the victim's gun against him. Coincidence? I think we should probably follow that clue and guess who it is, then corroborate it with previous posts. | ||
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