• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:57
CET 12:57
KST 20:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Vitality disbanding their sc2-team Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
Flash's ASL S21 & Future Plans Announcement Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
ONE GREAT AMERICAN MARINE…
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1901 users

Team Liquid Mafia [gg] - Page 61

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 162 Next
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
February 16 2008 09:28 GMT
#1201
If you have "100% sure" info on three mafia members, you deserve to die for not revealing them. It would both be good for the town, and a way to get off the hook yourself.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 16 2008 09:28 GMT
#1202
...you'd rather live and lose than die and win.

That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy.

I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness.
Shooting
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 16 2008 09:29 GMT
#1203
On February 16 2008 18:19 wurm wrote:

Show nested quote +
A little more than a few hours later kAra was tossing in his sleep, artofmagic heard him from the next room and came in to see what was wrong.


Looks like a nightmare to me.




Don't forget the part with betaben:

betaben was in the kitchen mixing an alcoholic beverage for his enjoyment and the aid in his hopefully soon coming sleep allowing him to not dread his mind with the thoughts of Mafioso.

Also refers to a nightmare.

I think 2 clues pointing somewhat to RtS)Night[Mare should allow a double lynching today.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 16 2008 09:30 GMT
#1204
On February 16 2008 18:28 Hittegods wrote:
If you have "100% sure" info on three mafia members, you deserve to die for not revealing them. It would both be good for the town, and a way to get off the hook yourself.

It would not get me off the hook. I'd get lynched anyways, just for kicks. I'm going to go to bed, and I'll be busy later. Maybe I'll still be alive by then.
~o~ I have returned
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
February 16 2008 09:31 GMT
#1205
On February 16 2008 18:29 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 18:19 wurm wrote:

A little more than a few hours later kAra was tossing in his sleep, artofmagic heard him from the next room and came in to see what was wrong.


Looks like a nightmare to me.




Don't forget the part with betaben:

betaben was in the kitchen mixing an alcoholic beverage for his enjoyment and the aid in his hopefully soon coming sleep allowing him to not dread his mind with the thoughts of Mafioso.

Also refers to a nightmare.

I think 2 clues pointing somewhat to RtS)Night[Mare should allow a double lynching today.


Nice find. Didn't get that on the first (and second) read-through.
I know where my towel is.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 16 2008 09:32 GMT
#1206
On February 16 2008 18:28 Tracil wrote:
...you'd rather live and lose than die and win.

That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy.

I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness.

I think that's justified when your teammates are the ones who take your ankle and proceed to put you out of commission.
~o~ I have returned
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
February 16 2008 09:36 GMT
#1207
"He closed the zipper and was complete in the capture of his prey"

Yet another clue referring to "prey"...

Aka falcynn... Aka mafioso :O
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 16 2008 09:39 GMT
#1208
On February 16 2008 18:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2008 18:28 Tracil wrote:
...you'd rather live and lose than die and win.

That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy.

I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness.

I think that's justified when your teammates are the ones who take your ankle and proceed to put you out of commission.


Sounds petty to me. Essentially you are saying even though your teammates are knocking you out of the race/game/whatever, you would rather watch them go down in flames, just because you can't be alive and win? That is extremely selfish imho, and to me it sounds like you never wanted the town to win, even when Shallow posted that PM, in all your defense, you continually tried to defend yourself, and then you voted for fakesteve, who by the graces didn't lynch you in the first place, and you still lived to day 2 because the mafia didn't target you (which could mean you are mafia, or they knew we would lynch you, so didn't bother killing you).

And now, you still continue your defense, this time saying you have information of mafioso for 100% guarantee and won't help your team out? Honestly I pretty sure people will be happy that you are lynched because of your bad attitude, rather than suspecting you being mafia. It's a game, and you are getting more worked up that people are lynching you in a game because of decent to good evidence against you, and rather than try and point to people who have more evidence than yourself, you just proceed to sit there and boast how you have information and won't post it unless you live.
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 16 2008 09:52 GMT
#1209
Well, Dr. Dragoon isn't playing in a pro-town fashion at all. I got nothing new. I've tried to convince him and now it's up to him to change his mind.

<->

I changed my mind on clues after a bit; it's kind of dumb of me to just ignore them. By the same token, I won't be putting much faith in them. Still.

I went through both posts with one thing in mind; we're looking for members of the mafia. Therefore, rather than look at random stuff like 'it's valentines day soon' and connect it to scum, I decided to pay attention to the traits and actions demonstrated by the mafioso as they go about their business. Here we go. I'm not actually going out of my way to link these to particular people- but I did want to sort out what I thought *could* be actual clues on identity from the text. Any of these could be a red herring etc.

A lot of these have been mentioned before, I know. I'll post updates periodically if people uncover new things, and certainly I'll try to get one out after each clue post.

day 1

-One Missed a kick due to muddy boots, lost balance. (clumsy, misses)
-One has no patience for immaturity
-One stabs people, Chuiu was a thorn in his side.
-"You're never going to be trusted iaaaagh"- iaaaagh possible reference to name?

-DapperDan was a spy amongst them (friends with a member of the mafia?)
-One used Dan's own gun against him, was filled with blanks
-Pushed Dan from shadows (stealthy bastard)
-'That was low, even for you' , 'all is fair' (one mafioso has no qualms about his methods)
-One mafioso took a bow. (paying respects; theatrical bent)

day 2

-mahini was held down with great strength (strong dude, obviously)
-A serum was used on him (doctor/scientist/experimental guy)
-Mafia seem to be looking for a test subject of some kind

-Phone lines were cut
-killer of evan had the most precise control; his throat was slit
-one man trapped krohm in a sleeping bag and dropped him out a window (one guy has a weird way of killing people o-o)

-betaben was woken up before his death; he was killed by his head being shoved into a pot of boiling water (one mafioso is a sadist)

-artofmagic was sliced in two; some kind of powerful weapon was involved (this implies a large blade of some kind)
-another mafioso used a townies own gun against him (kara's) (a thief, perhaps?)
Shooting
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
February 16 2008 09:52 GMT
#1210
we clearly need a double lynch! dr.dragoon and nightmare are due. also that kAra kill was so random :> or was it?
hmmm, gonna read the text once more and look for clues (please hit Enter more often while typing, it's sort of hard to read imho)
jeremy clarkson = god
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 16 2008 11:10 GMT
#1211
Just making a wild guess here, and keeping a little in the StarCraft theme we obviously have here at TL.Net..... Maybe the strange serum was the mafia trying out their new stim packs. :o
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 11:15:46
February 16 2008 11:15 GMT
#1212
On February 16 2008 20:10 So no fek wrote:
Just making a wild guess here, and keeping a little in the StarCraft theme we obviously have here at TL.Net..... Maybe the strange serum was the mafia trying out their new stim packs. :o

SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!
Sounds familiar..
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
February 16 2008 11:27 GMT
#1213
I vote for RtS)Night[Mare to be lynched.
jeremy clarkson = god
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 16 2008 11:56 GMT
#1214
Nightmare. Hmm.

Let's see. Nightmare claimed to trust me at one point, and yet he had a vote on SMB for mayor- one he didn't change even after this statement.

Nightmare also seems to advocate passive play in general; he encouraged Dragoon to 'lay low' when the heat was on him (this is suboptimal; when the heat is on you, that is the moment to really get talkative) and generally adopted a 'wait and see' approach with regard to how we determine lynch; basically, he said we should 'wait for more clues' rather than try to lynch mafia right now. Granted, this was day 1, when we *couldn't* lynch... but the phrasing of his posts didn't seem to indicate that.

Finally, he encouraged paramedics to go hit Live2Win. I said way earlier that we SHOULDN'T do this, and there are good reasons!

1) If a paramedic is protecting one of the mafia, their ability is actually useless; ergo, even though it may not actually be, it can *seem* scummy to encourage doc protection on specific targets.

2) Paramedics are supposed to keep people alive, which isn't going to happen if *the mafia know who the paramedics are targeting and thus hit other people.*

So, yeah. NightMare doesn't look that great. He's posted depressingly little... like so many others, however. Got any response, NightMare? I'm pretty miffed that you claimed to trust me but kept voting for SMB; this is a case of actions not lining up with words. Why'd you not vote for me?
Shooting
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 12:57:32
February 16 2008 12:56 GMT
#1215
Shallows png is not the size my paint(XP,MCE,SP2) resaves his png. Could not reproduce the size with Irfanview either. Other windows-versions might create differently sized pngs. Sb should also try Photoshop.
Saving as png by itself is not strange. It is the best format for this purpose.
"I'd rather live and lose then die and win" is an attitute with which the town cannot win.

(I don't play)
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
February 16 2008 14:06 GMT
#1216
Definately Dr.Dragoon should be the first to get killed.
Altough I remember Nightmare's posts (can't recall particular ones) to be somewhat suspicious... Like he either didn't get how to play as Townie, or was a Mafia.
So

I vote for RtS)Night[Mare to be lynched.

Go Fakesteve, use your powers! You have 4 uses of double lynch, the game shouldn't last longer than ~8 I'd say. Furthermore, there is a lot of Mafia kills and town only gets 1, which makes us decide only in 14% of targets (not counting vigilantes' kills, up to 6 in entire game). It would be much better if we had 2/8 -> 25% of the killing decision power.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 16 2008 14:47 GMT
#1217
On February 16 2008 16:32 Dapperdan wrote:
Veterans are another way that less hits could happen. You guys need to pay more attention the the first post.

Show nested quote +
also, i'm voting for DD for reasons that i gave (some pages back) and reasons other people already gave.


Be more clear about your vote. Maybe chuiu understands who 'DD' is, but I certainly don't. There's no reason to be unnecessarily ambigious.


I already voted in page 58, so i felt lazy and didn't want to type out Dragoon. maybe you missed it.
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 15:01:39
February 16 2008 14:55 GMT
#1218
I, too, think it is time for a double lynch. 2 townies have voted for a nightmare lynch, and others are persuaded by my clever deducing of clues. Plus, the mafia has 6 kills on us already and there are still 14 of them, with FakeSteve taking out the wrong guy.

I also vote for RtS)Night[Mare to be lynched.

Funny how my accusation of RtS)Night[Mare was believed when I thought that my "mahnini was lynched by two people" theory was more concrete.
I know where my towel is.
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
February 16 2008 15:06 GMT
#1219
well the clues point towards nightmare and they don't seem tooooo obvious to be deliberately wrong
jeremy clarkson = god
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17050 Posts
February 16 2008 15:20 GMT
#1220
On February 16 2008 18:52 Tracil wrote:
I changed my mind on clues after a bit; it's kind of dumb of me to just ignore them. By the same token, I won't be putting much faith in them. Still.

[clues]


Just woke up. This was a good post which combined all the clues we "know" so far.

It's interesting that there are TWO instances in which a mafioso used the victim's gun against him. Coincidence? I think we should probably follow that clue and guess who it is, then corroborate it with previous posts.
Moderator
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 162 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 4: Group A
Reynor vs Zoun
herO vs sOs
Tasteless801
IndyStarCraft 180
Rex136
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #143
CranKy Ducklings67
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 801
Lowko203
IndyStarCraft 180
Rex 136
BRAT_OK 65
MindelVK 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 43485
Britney 31698
Jaedong 2260
PianO 643
Mong 427
Last 258
Pusan 77
Sea.KH 42
yabsab 20
[sc1f]eonzerg 13
[ Show more ]
Purpose 12
Terrorterran 11
Dota 2
Gorgc4125
XcaliburYe136
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K677
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor152
Other Games
singsing1294
B2W.Neo897
Fuzer 173
Mew2King80
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream6771
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1332
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 65
• Adnapsc2 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1628
• Stunt844
• Nemesis418
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3m
Classic vs Rogue
Solar vs Gerald
Bunny vs Nicoract
ByuN vs Zoun
herO vs Clem
MaxPax vs Cure
WardiTV111
AI Arena Tournament
8h 3m
Patches Events
11h 3m
Replay Cast
12h 3m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 3m
RSL Revival
22h 3m
Classic vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Cham
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d
OSC
1d
BSL
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-05
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.