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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:17 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I'd rather live and lose than die and win. I vote we lynch Dr.Dragoon because he's just acting like an ass now... I would vote Nightmare but I was hoping that Fakesteve use one of his uber lynching power thingies on him.. :/ | ||
Empyrean
17059 Posts
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Folca
2235 Posts
On February 16 2008 18:19 wurm wrote: alrighty, time to risk my neck and throw around accusations. Looking back to the last day post, I've tried to find out why TWO mafia chose to go after mahnini. Shifting through this 60 page topic I found this. Looks to me, mahnini was onto something. After this whole .png/.jpeg discussion, there were no more mahnini posts. Also, I've long suspected of Live2Win being mafia, lo and behold he is defending another one of my mafia suspects, Shallow[bay]. Looks like a nightmare to me. At first i couldn't link anybody to this until i saw the previous quote, what I got was: RtS)Night[Mare RTS=Real Time Strategy perhaps? Precise control needed to play? And going through the topic, his posts sounded like he was trying to be townie instead of being a real townie. Also, it was basically a given that a mafioso was running for mayor, and my last accusation is: 3 possible mafioso's voting SoMuchBetter for mayor. Going through the first DAY post, a lot of people were accusing SMB of being mafia. That's all I have. wtf me? why me, im innocent :D | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
If the Mafias were not trying to mislead us, then the following statement would be true. Two Mafias went after Mahnini, which means they believed Mahnini is either a Veteran or watched over by a Paramedic. In this case, I would say Veteran because Mahnini has no reason to be watched over by a Paramedic whatsoever. Of course they turned out to be wrong, but what does it mean?! What made them think that way?! I haven't think too much yet as I just woke up, but just wanted to point this part out  My suggestion for now is to go for double lynch and take out two people from the general consensus. Then our "Vigilante" should take out two more from the following list, or whoever you think that is more appropriate. It's not that hard  On February 16 2008 15:41 Yogurt wrote: my immidiate reads on the day: 1.Water was now boiling on the stove. betaben was clearly disillusioned as he woke up. NeoIllusions 2. This man had no intentions of absolving himself stealing sleeping bags was not the worst he had prepared. ?Drowsy 3.this Valentines day Valentine is playing. Romance_us is also playing. can't find any clues really in mahnini's death 4. The powers overseeing did not have first-rate plans for the residents of Krohms house on this night randombum? Other things to note: -second time someone has stepped out of the "darkness" may add more later If all goes well, we should be able to cut down half of the Mafia count... Oh, and I do think the clues on "Valentines day" is somewhat strong, although we do have two choices. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
Dr. Dragoon. Why? if you've read some of the posts mahnini made, there is some evidence pointing Dr.Dragoon as a suspcious character. Even though many people pointed him as mafioso, most did not bring up any evidence. Mahnini was one of the few. Since he didnt post too much i think he was trying to protect himself. Dr.Dragoon could take some heat off him by killing one of his accusers that actually had evidence. By the way, at the beggining of the game i thought Dr.Dragoon was indeed a townie, but he was just way too stupid. So maybe he'd be alive if he didnt argue as much as he did, all he did was bring so much attention to him. After a few pages, he become as much of a suspect of mafia. He hasnt brought any clues to any other guy that is mafia. Maybe because he's dead and wont give away a teammate? Tracil, i voted for SMB because at the beggining of the game, you seemed like really helpful, but after reading L2W posts, i become suspicious of you trying to fool everybody into trusting you, so i could not risk voting you for mayor if you were mafia. SMB seems more like a politician and i thought he was safe. I also am suspicious of fakesteve, because his first lynch was just aimed with revenge. Mafia behaviour is likely. Accuser with evidence -> Dead. However, i dont think that if fakesteve was mafia, he'd let them target one of his bodyguards. L2W was providing very insightful clues, so i figured out he might die to a mafia attack, so i tried to encourage a paramedic to watch him. Also, about the two mafias hitting on one person is not true. There were two mafias, but two targets as well. Some of the tkillings seems so random. I wonder why they were killed. At the moment, im unable to find more clues. Thats my defense i guess. I vote for Dr. Dragoon to be lynched. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: I think you're getting a wrong lead on me. I believe clues lie within the way of the killing was made. The killing of mahnini mentions a needle and a strange substance. So i think the killing was made by Dr. Dragoon. Why? if you've read some of the posts mahnini made, there is some evidence pointing Dr.Dragoon as a suspcious character. Even though many people pointed him as mafioso, most did not bring up any evidence. Mahnini was one of the few. Since he didnt post too much i think he was trying to protect himself. Dr.Dragoon could take some heat off him by killing one of his accusers that actually had evidence. By the way, at the beggining of the game i thought Dr.Dragoon was indeed a townie, but he was just way too stupid. So maybe he'd be alive if he didnt argue as much as he did, all he did was bring so much attention to him. After a few pages, he become as much of a suspect of mafia. He hasnt brought any clues to any other guy that is mafia. Maybe because he's dead and wont give away a teammate? Tracil, i voted for SMB because at the beggining of the game, you seemed like really helpful, but after reading L2W posts, i become suspicious of you trying to fool everybody into trusting you, so i could not risk voting you for mayor if you were mafia. SMB seems more like a politician and i thought he was safe. I also am suspicious of fakesteve, because his first lynch was just aimed with revenge. Mafia behaviour is likely. Accuser with evidence -> Dead. However, i dont think that if fakesteve was mafia, he'd let them target one of his bodyguards. L2W was providing very insightful clues, so i figured out he might die to a mafia attack, so i tried to encourage a paramedic to watch him. Also, about the two mafias hitting on one person is not true. There were two mafias, but two targets as well. Some of the tkillings seems so random. I wonder why they were killed. At the moment, im unable to find more clues. Thats my defense i guess. I vote for Dr. Dragoon to be lynched. Dragoon is pretty much dead, and for you, there is not enough evidence to justify me voting for you, therefore I'm not voting for anyone as of now. But if other people want to take you out, I'm OK with it | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:38 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Don't call me stupid. This game is basically the Salem Witch Trials. If someone says you're a witch, GG. Instead, I'll call you stupid for thinking I'm mafia. Also, for the people calling me petty, you guys are ridiculous. Basically you're either petty for voting me because of my attitude, horrible at this game for actually thinking I'm mafia, or you're a mafioso. Well too bad that IS how the game is played. People make their decisions based on what other people say and how they act. You don't have to sign up next round if you are so upset. This is a GAME after all. Edit: After you were accused Mafia, you never countered the accuse. You did not try to explain how the evidence is not pointed towards you, and other reasons why we should not believe you are Mafia. Instead you just went on a rant saying people are dumb, the game is dumb, people are just band wagoning you etc. That doesn't help your case much, does it? RtS)Night[Mare actually had a good long post up top saying why we should believe him, and I do think some people after reading his post would change their minds. Yes there is always a probability of you not being a Mafia, but that, we will find out after you are dead. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:38 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Don't call me stupid. This game is basically the Salem Witch Trials. If someone says you're a witch, GG. Instead, I'll call you stupid for thinking I'm mafia. Also, for the people calling me petty, you guys are ridiculous. Basically you're either petty for voting me because of my attitude, horrible at this game for actually thinking I'm mafia, or you're a mafioso. Actually if you're smart and innocent, you can search for clues that point to MAFIA. After all there is 14? mafia out of 72 townies, so pointing strong evidence might lead the crowd into lynching a sure target. You have too much suspicion on you right now, so you're dead. You're probably mafia, as all you did was yell IM NOT and didnt contribute to findings, or at least try. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:38 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Don't call me stupid. This game is basically the Salem Witch Trials. If someone says you're a witch, GG. Instead, I'll call you stupid for thinking I'm mafia. Also, for the people calling me petty, you guys are ridiculous. Basically you're either petty for voting me because of my attitude, horrible at this game for actually thinking I'm mafia, or you're a mafioso. Oh just stop posting, everybody is tired of you. You are still going to die and it's totally unlikely to change. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Some of the tkillings seems so random. I wonder why they were killed. At the moment, im unable to find more clues. I think it's better for mafia to hit random people, because those standing out are much more likely to be prodected by a paramedic, and they wouldn't like to waste a kill. Also, the quality of dying townies isn't that important, since it's the quantity of votes that decides about lynching someone. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:51 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Actually if you're smart and innocent, you can search for clues that point to MAFIA. After all there is 14? mafia out of 72 townies, so pointing strong evidence might lead the crowd into lynching a sure target. You have too much suspicion on you right now, so you're dead. You're probably mafia, as all you did was yell IM NOT and didnt contribute to findings, or at least try. I'll call you stupid after I'm lynched and it shows I'm a townie. Okay? Edit: I guess I was too vague in this post. You don't even know how the game works. I'm screwed unless I cheat. Even If I give up the mafia members I've already figured out, I'll be killed simply because retarded people think they're Sherlock Holmes. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
It does not matter if oneself dies in mafia as long as the right side wins. So you are only screwed(assuming you are towny) if the town loses. So not telling your suspects is irrational behavior (as a towny). Lynching sb whose behavior is irrational under the assumption he is good, is standard mafia behavior, and it's the lynchee own fault. So you are probably lynched because: a) Shallow is lying and thus is mafia himself b) you are mafia c) you behave stupid or you just want to spoil the game So at least one of you two is mafia, or one of you is stupid/spoiler. And in this variant of the game it's in the towns interest do kill much and kill early, as this reduces the number of mafiakills. So using some doublekills early even if you have no proof is probably advisable. (I'm not playing) | ||
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Empyrean
17059 Posts
On February 17 2008 03:11 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I'll call you stupid after I'm lynched and it shows I'm a townie. Okay? Edit: I guess I was too vague in this post. You don't even know how the game works. I'm screwed unless I cheat. Even If I give up the mafia members I've already figured out, I'll be killed simply because retarded people think they're Sherlock Holmes. Well who are the mafia members you've already "figured out"? | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Vote for Dr.Dragoon even if he's not mafia, his whole "I'd rather live and lose than die and win" attitude seems pretty detrimental to us townies. Even if it turns out he's a townie I'm sure everyone will still agree it was for the best. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On February 17 2008 02:38 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Don't call me stupid. This game is basically the Salem Witch Trials. If someone says you're a witch, GG. Instead, I'll call you stupid for thinking I'm mafia. Also, for the people calling me petty, you guys are ridiculous. Basically you're either petty for voting me because of my attitude, horrible at this game for actually thinking I'm mafia, or you're a mafioso. Just die already. lol | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
As if dying will do anything to me. I'll still be a fundamental part of the game. | ||
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KF91
Canada221 Posts
On February 17 2008 03:23 MasterOfChaos wrote: @DrDragoon: It does not matter if oneself dies in mafia as long as the right side wins. So you are only screwed(assuming you are towny) if the town loses. So not telling your suspects is irrational behavior (as a towny). Lynching sb whose behavior is irrational under the assumption he is good, is standard mafia behavior, and it's the lynchee own fault. So you are probably lynched because: a) Shallow is lying and thus is mafia himself b) you are mafia c) you behave stupid or you just want to spoil the game So at least one of you two is mafia, or one of you is stupid/spoiler. And in this variant of the game it's in the towns interest do kill much and kill early, as this reduces the number of mafiakills. So using some doublekills early even if you have no proof is probably advisable. (I'm not playing) Then why are you posting? O.o | ||
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