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On February 12 2008 10:17 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Tsk tsk, you guys obviously haven't done your research. Have any of you thought of the possibility that NEITHER of us are mafia?
You only come to your own defense when you're sure to be lynched?
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On February 12 2008 10:18 Tracil wrote: @ L2W: Hmm. Accepted that it's true townies shouldn't just blindly act in one direction. Still a bit miffed but I like your tone so far.
However, I disagree that we should be focusing elsewhere; the Dr. Dragoon vs. Swallow thing wasn't just a 'mishap'; it was either a blatant mistake on Dragoon's part, or a stupid action on Swallows. I don't think we can really let this slide. The attitudes people take on this will be noted for future days- people should weigh in on it, and I know that if I'm elected mayor, I will likely use the instant-lynch to kill either Dragoon or Caller at this point (the latter because he said 'I am mafia', which is.. well.. dumb.)
SHallow. SHallow. SHallow.
Jesus lol.
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On February 12 2008 10:26 wurm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 10:23 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 10:01 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 09:23 dancefayedance!~ wrote: i think dr.dragoon or shallow[bay] is mafia. lynch them both OR! Maybe dr dragoon was trying to bait shallow and see if it was HE that was the dumb mafia and being the mafia that he is dancefayedance!~ jumped on his chance to accuse two townies. AND he voted for Tracil! you've found many opportunities to accuse people, but how do we know you are not a mafia member yourself. deliberately accusing everyone as mafia members to give the impression you aren't one yourself? i sincerely believe dr.dragoon is mafia because of his reaction to shallow[bay]'s print screen. It does state in the very beginning that mafia members know other mafia members. why would dr.dragoon say shallow[bay] was a mafia member if he knew he was a mafia member himself?a rule we are all well aware of ( if we read the rules which im assuming you did) it's because dr.dragoon wanted to throw everyone into confusion! i think what dr.dragoon did is very cunning. he knew that it would be screen shotted. with this in mind he used a poor bait to throw us off. it wasn't that he was trying to bait shallow[bay] into admitting he was another mafia member ( because if shallow[bay] were he would know if dr.dragoon was a mafia member or not) it's because he wanted to use that poor attempt of a trap to really steer us away from believing he was a mafia member. now this is why i think shallow[bay] could be a mafia member. either dr.dragoon and shallow]bay] planned this, because for shallow[bay] to accuse dr.dragoon and post 'incriminating' evidence would mean that shallow[bay] has a shallow intelligence or because they both planned this out. im almost certain that dr.dragoon is a mafia member. it's about 60% for shallow[bay]. I think i've found clues pointing to both of them and other players which i will post when we elect a mayor. This summed up the whole situation the best. GJ dance.
I eagerly await the "clues" that point to me as mafia.
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"Fine, but we must leave quick now, grab his body, bring it with you".
If I wanted to leave quick, maybe I'd hop on my: Scooter
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This thread should go in the Hall of Fame after it's wrapped up :p
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On February 12 2008 12:47 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true. Speaking of shallow lying low, isn't that exactly what he's doing now? I haven't seen him post much in the past couple of hours.
Sorry I was playing Starcraft, it's what I do in my spare time
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The whole point is that it's an epic postfest.
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On February 12 2008 12:59 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: The whole point is that it's an epic postfest. you PM'd dragoon. confirm/deny
confirm
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On February 12 2008 08:49 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 08:38 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 08:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On February 12 2008 07:58 Live2Win wrote:"That was low, even for you" said another mafia. "Who cares where I stab him, all is fair" he protested, My suspicion goes to NotSorry, or ShaLLoW[baY] I've been sitting here for 5 minutes trying to figure out how you've linked that clue with me, it doesn't make any sense :p low blow = you gotta be shallow to make a low-blow. :p A bit stretched, just a guess. DON'T RISK IT, LYNCH SHALLOW TOO! If the word "doctor" ever makes it to the story, I am soooo screwed.
Called him mafia for this via PM.
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wtf is all of that writing? some mafioso code?
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![[image loading]](http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3044/truthxv8.jpg) You be the judge.
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On February 12 2008 13:19 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Nice edit, which program did you use?
er, paint. isn't that obvious?
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On February 12 2008 13:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 13:20 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On February 12 2008 13:19 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 13:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:![[image loading]](http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3044/truthxv8.jpg) You be the judge. Nice edit, which program did you use? er, paint. isn't that obvious? I meant to make the fake PM 
I'm just waiting for the proof Mr. Capone.
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The "always saved in .png" is such a stupid piece of "evidence", woops I saved in .jpeg just to confuse you!.
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On February 12 2008 13:27 Alethios wrote: Wow... what a huge slip up from shallow.
Though i can suggest an alternative: Shallow, after being berated for not saving in jpeg last time, subconsciously doesn't make the decision to manually save the file in .png
I'm undecided.
This thread delivers.
I seriously don't know how the file being saved in .png proves it was edited. When I went to save the file, I thought for a second before habitually selecting .png, and I just left it as .jpeg.
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On February 12 2008 13:42 Vharox wrote: Hmmm. Weird lol. I think I may have done the same thing =\
Considering everyone made a big issue about him saving in .png
Ugh... TOO MANY PERSPECTIVES TO THING OF. HOW THE HELL DID L DO IT?!
Could you rephrase this? I honestly don't get it.
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On February 12 2008 13:44 Alethios wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 13:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On February 12 2008 13:27 Alethios wrote: Wow... what a huge slip up from shallow.
Though i can suggest an alternative: Shallow, after being berated for not saving in jpeg last time, subconsciously doesn't make the decision to manually save the file in .png
I'm undecided.
This thread delivers. I seriously don't know how the file being saved in .png proves it was edited. When I went to save the file, I thought for a second before habitually selecting .png, and I just left it as .jpeg. If you saved it in .png, but don't usually (like the .jpeg photo), it would show that you had gone out of your way to increase the quality of the PM photo, thus it was almost certainly photoshopped.
We've already deduced I don't have photoshop on my computer, and I even showed you a SS of my applications TWO MINUTES after I was accused of photoshop. I also honestly didn't know that .png was higher quality (I swear on the soul of Mae Jae Yoon and Shi Ni Seung, if you know me that's pretty damn solid). My friends just assure me that it's better for whatever reason, so I, out of habit, tend to save in that format.
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I never said I was on a Mac?
EDIT : Oh, you aren't saying I said that. Nvm then ;p
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When I was done superimposing the Godfather over SMB (uncanny likeness, I stand by it), I clicked save and ".jpeg" was in the drop down menu. That's all I can tell you, besides that I decided to leave it there.
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On February 12 2008 14:19 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 14:05 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 13:53 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 13:50 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 13:48 CDRdude wrote: I haven't been paying attention to this thread, but I have one thing to offer the file extension debate. On a Mac, screenshots are saved as a .png file, with a name of Picture 1 (if the name Picture 1 is taken, it'll use Picture 2, and so on). He screenshotted his windows add/remove program window though, so he's not on a mac. Let's not discount the fact that maybe the mafia are working together and having someone with reputable photoshop skills post an image of a PM would draw attention to him. To further elaborate on this, maybe someone photoshopped it, presented it to the mafia and they decided shallow should post it for whatever reason. His "habitual" .png saving doesn't make sense since his own paint picture is saved in .jpeg which he "left it on .jpeg", when in fact default the default save format for paint is .bmp (I said .gif earlier, my mistake). First of all, .jpeg is the default save format for Paint. Second, in my opinion you guys are thinking way ahead into this. The explanation "I saved in JPEG because last time I saved in .png people made a big fuss about it" is a perfectly good explanation, and I personally see no reason to be particularily suspicious about that. The Dr.Dragoon case, however, still has me convinced he should be lynched. I just checked and recheck. Default image format is 24-bit .bmp. It makes zero sense to change a picture to .jpeg after posting a previous picture in .png since he already established that he did it habitually, which he now disproved by posting a .jpeg. This still doesn't change the fact that this could be an elaborate mafia plot to test the waters so to speak of how to get rid of someone.
The entire forum shit on me for posting a .png the first time, so why would I do it again? Habits can be broken you know.
If, every day, you come home from school and smoke a joint before your parents get home, and one day they stay home sick, obviously you're not going to do it then. It's a silly comparaison but it's the same in essence.
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