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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 12 2008 03:12 GMT
#3121
are you going to implement your $ idea chuiu? i know you said it takes a lot of work to maintain, i/someone else could whip up some easy gui for you (maybe just a dropdown menu of possible actions and players, u select whatever, and click Do, and all the balances and whatever is taken care of in the background.. if it will make it easier)

or.. anything else to combat inactive townies? since a player cap seems a no-no at this point ;o
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
March 12 2008 03:14 GMT
#3122
On March 12 2008 10:44 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2008 10:33 Alventenie wrote:
i think the piano clue was vague, because most people dont really know much about them or performances (i dont). I suspected you with the multiple god comments, but they didnt seem strong enough until after i was dead (because the other person i thought they could relate to died).

And yes, i had 1 paramedic watching me when i died =/, too bad someone ELSE (cough L2W cough) didnt protect me or i woulda lived.


Yeah, I suggested two hits put on you. You should have put all the paramedics on yourself ;D

Anyway, you're still interested in giving me your thoughts, right? If you could just comb through your thoughts after each day/night cycle transpired. I'm very interested as to who you thought the God clues could have related to. They were pretty much directed at me, but I guess my combination of staying calmish while showing slight indignity and lots of feigned naivety sort of played out in my favor :D


wtf you liar!! i sugested two hits on alventinenene1!!112
:)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 12 2008 03:16 GMT
#3123
hey unforgiven you were scum in both mafia games; hows that make you feel

Come to the light, my Son.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 12 2008 03:17 GMT
#3124
Empyrean, if you have questions for me pm them to me, ill give you some of my thoughts tomorrow, but i wont really be specific on stuff unless you want clarification as to certain things i did.
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
March 12 2008 03:20 GMT
#3125
This post game discussion has been an awesome read, so much going which we who didn't play couldn't know about.

Chuiu and Dapperdan made a great job on those clues btw, I'd be out of ideas pretty quickly.
Looking forward to the next game!
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
Dapperdan
Profile Joined February 2008
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-12 03:21:21
March 12 2008 03:20 GMT
#3126
I will clarify all the clues I made in the next two days, in-depth. But, I don't have the time now, so you guys will have to wait for that.
Never has a greedy man become rich.
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
March 12 2008 03:21 GMT
#3127
-A player cap could be a good idea. We can easily run multiple mafia games at once, and split the total number of participants between several games. I think 30 should be the maximum (and I think 30 is on the side of very large.)

-Since the games are smaller, it would be easier for the mods to pick out players who aren't participating.

-We could also compare how setups play out in general, and thus everything I say will be VINDICATED AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAhahem. In time, Watson. In time, they will come to heed my wisdom.
Shooting
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
March 12 2008 03:22 GMT
#3128
On March 12 2008 12:12 JeeJee wrote:
are you going to implement your $ idea chuiu? i know you said it takes a lot of work to maintain, i/someone else could whip up some easy gui for you (maybe just a dropdown menu of possible actions and players, u select whatever, and click Do, and all the balances and whatever is taken care of in the background.. if it will make it easier)

or.. anything else to combat inactive townies? since a player cap seems a no-no at this point ;o

My monetary system would work great if there was ever a php assisted version of this game but keeping it exclusive only to current forums (not making a whole new website) makes it difficult to pull off without tons of work (I'm not going to manage close to a hundred or so peoples bank accounts, this game takes up a lot of time aside from that) or having players go to a site away from TL.net to preform actions and adding that element of complexity in my mind takes away from the game more than it would add to it.
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butidigress
Profile Joined March 2008
United States36 Posts
March 12 2008 03:23 GMT
#3129
i'd like to play in the next game, please.
between the click of the light and the start of the dream ...
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 12 2008 03:26 GMT
#3130
Well guys, we made an epic game of it. At the time of this posting, there have been over three thousand replies to this thread. That's a lot. Even more, there have been over one hundred thousand views. And that was only 6 days. One hundred and fifty-seven pages of drama, accusations, counter-accusations and murder.

A big thanks to Chuiu and Dapperdan, you have made a truly epic thread.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
March 12 2008 03:29 GMT
#3131
ahahahah I'm so glad I wasn't lynched. I guess I have my mafia friends to thank for that
but yeah, I don't have nearly enough time to be active in this game, so I'm not going to be playing in the next one.
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 12 2008 03:29 GMT
#3132
OMFG, all my suspicions (except nemY and Soutlight...sorry) were right! I guess I'm not as horrible at this game as I thought.

And I'd also like to thank Chuiu and Dapperdan as well for introducing us to such an epic game. Cheers guys
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-12 03:35:08
March 12 2008 03:31 GMT
#3133
On March 12 2008 12:21 Tracil wrote:
-A player cap could be a good idea. We can easily run multiple mafia games at once, and split the total number of participants between several games. I think 30 should be the maximum (and I think 30 is on the side of very large.)

-Since the games are smaller, it would be easier for the mods to pick out players who aren't participating.

-We could also compare how setups play out in general, and thus everything I say will be VINDICATED AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAhahem. In time, Watson. In time, they will come to heed my wisdom.

You have a couple good ideas in a forest of bad ones. Sorry but DapperDan and I both disagree with a lot of what you've said in terms of game balance and methods of running and operating the game.

EDIT: Things I may do that I got as an idea from you or one of your rules:

1. Forcing players to be active by always voting (or abstaining) and replacing them if they aren't with people on the wait list. (unfortunately getting a large enough wait list may be more difficult in my games)
2. Uh, I can't remember, there was a #2 and possibly a #3 though.
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Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
March 12 2008 03:37 GMT
#3134
On March 12 2008 12:16 JeeJee wrote:
hey unforgiven you were scum in both mafia games; hows that make you feel

Come to the light, my Son.


the dark side is stronger than me!
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
March 12 2008 03:41 GMT
#3135
On March 12 2008 12:26 CDRdude wrote:
Well guys, we made an epic game of it. At the time of this posting, there have been OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND replies to this thread. That's a lot. Even more, there have been over one hundred thousand views. And that was only 6 days. One hundred and fifty-seven pages of drama, accusations, counter-accusations and murder.

A big thanks to Chuiu and Dapperdan, you have made a truly epic thread.

:)
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-12 17:35:02
March 12 2008 03:41 GMT
#3136
Thanks for running this, Chuiu and DapperDan, it's been a fun read!
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Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
March 12 2008 03:47 GMT
#3137
Mmm. I admit that it will be difficult to replace people midgame- doing so will always screw things up.

If many games are going to be run (and mafia is awesome in general, so I hope they are), then it's best to keep tabs on who signs up and doesn't, well, *play* for future reference.
Shooting
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-12 03:51:28
March 12 2008 03:50 GMT
#3138
On March 09 2008 15:51 Live2Win wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Long ass reasoning] +

On February 28 2008 00:28 Alventenie wrote:
Tracil - 9
ZaplinG
Southlight
Fen
Falcynn
SiZ.FaNtAsY
zdd
imDerek
Unforgiven_ve
MyHeroNoob

Fact: Currently, 3 of these are mafia

I am giving Falcynn the benefit of the doubt. He has come to both Tracil (who I believe to be innocent) and my defense a few times. This leads me to believe Falcynn is safe, because if he was mafia, he would add to the flame and try to get either me or Tracil lynched. Instead he picked out clues that lead to lynching a mafia.

And he didn't bandwagon jump either. If you look at the post, he was the 3rd to vote for unforgiven to be lynched. If it was mafia jumping on board, then he would be on of the last.

So my list looks like this:
Tracil - 9
ZaplinG
Southlight
Fen
Falcynn
SiZ.FaNtAsY
zdd
imDerek
Unforgiven_ve
MyHeroNoob

3/6 of these are mafia to me. That's 50% chance of getting a mafia, on RANDOM CHANCE.
Here's the other list from Alventine's post:

FakeSteve[TPR] - 11
chicken` - dead
Romance_us - dead
Aepplet - dead
Live2Win
ZBiR - dead
Southlight
CDRdude - dead
demonic_phate
dancefayedance!~
dinmsab

1/5 is mafia. To me, it is 1/4 since I know I am medic... and hopefully you will too after my defense.

Now, let's look at Day 6 clues:

+ Show Spoiler [clazziquai] +
Clazziquai was sound asleep as the cold night persisted. He then began to dream fantastical dreams. His thoughts were not random, but rather quite the contrary. He found himself to be in a vast field. Mountains protruded the landscape in the distance. It was snowing heavily, however there was no snow on the ground. Every time a flake touched the green grass that covered the earth, it dissolved instantly. Clazziquai looked to the sky only to see a glorious sun and not a cloud or mark of fog in sight. As he changed his view from the sky to ground level it appeared to snow only heavier. A wind arose and the precipitation moved through the air at a much more horizontal pace. Clazziquai began to walk forward, although he was not yet aware of his destination. As he continued, he began to hasten his pace in hopes of some direction. Yet, the faster he moved forward, the more blurred his surroundings appeared. He could hear thunder permeating the air. He saw no lightning. And suddenly, he realized only a short valley lay between him and the foot of a majestic mountain. He stopped for only a moment, but when he decided to move forward once more, his wishes were not granted. Five feet of snow now encompassed his being and lay upon what seemed like the entirety of the earth due to his limited view. He wriggled and writhed in attempts to free himself from the glacial tomb that now began to form. In admittance of his failure, he stopped moving. And now what had been flurrying snow over the last few moments transitioned to hazardous hail. Throughout the experience clazziquai felt his circumstances to be real, and he felt the most tragic emotions in his evident demise. But yet, in view was another man on the horizon; a man riding on a snowmobile speedily approached. Clazziquai yelled with joy, and called for help elatedly. He assumed the man coming was his savior. Gradually though, clazziquai was less and less inclined to have faith in the path that his supposed savior traveled. He was now neck deep in a thick snow and only held onto hope to keep his sense aligned. But inevitably, his senses dissipated as the snowmobile savior took too straight and too fast a line to safely procure clazziquai from the snow. Directly on line for clazziquai's head at top speed, he continued forward; the savior was but a slayer. Clazziquai woke up in a frantic state. His limbs moved especially freely; they felt as if they had just been weighed down for a long while. His teeth shattered; he felt abnormally cold for what he could see on a nearby thermometer was a moderate night. Clazziquai noticed his head felt unusually detached in a moment just there after. Someone with the power to make dreams all too real ended clazziquai's life on this night.

I'd like to emphasize on the last part. "Power to make dreams all too real"... Clazziquai seemed to have a crazy dream here, much like a.... FANTASY. This clue leads me believe it's pointing at SiZ.FaNtAsY.

+ Show Spoiler [Goldenkrnboi] +
Goldenkrnboi found his home in his basement on this night. He walked in circles feverishly. His almost-robotic, and precise killer, which the town had previously known, waited, crouched in the darkness. Another killer peered through a window looking down into the pitch. With their means prepared, the mafia sprung. Goldenkrnboi was not at all prepared as bullets began their firing at his feet. He hopped and jumped around hectically, even though the thoughts already entered his mind that he was already a dead man. He tapped and trotted in his attempts to dodge the ill-angled bullets. All the while the other predator moved in closer. He slashed the victim at the ankles. He then made the deadly incision in goldenkrnboi's upper back. This man undoubtedly had the makings of a successful prototype model for a cold-hearted killer.

The mafia seems to have a special liking of his feet. They shoot at it, and then take a swipe at his ankles. When you think feet, you think the bottom part, below, under.... SOUTH? A bit far-fetched, but this has me suspicious of Southlight.

+ Show Spoiler [randombum] +
Swimmers could now be heard crossing the river, and randombum knew he was trapped. He rose to his feet and ran in the opposite direction of the man in the white coat along side the river with all his speed and might. One mafia was able to stay on his tail. As randombum ran, he could hear the man from behind him yell, "I'll save you! I promise!" with a hideously evil laugh following. It was at this time that randombum realized his own fate. He was exhausted as the term allowed. He could not outrun his chaser, and he was tackled from behind viciously in a matter of time. He was unhesitatingly choked until he could breath no more.


But yet, in view was another man on the horizon; a man riding on a snowmobile speedily approached. Clazziquai yelled with joy, and called for help elatedly. He assumed the man coming was his savior. Gradually though, clazziquai was less and less inclined to have faith in the path that his supposed savior traveled. He was now neck deep in a thick snow and only held onto hope to keep his sense aligned. But inevitably, his senses dissipated as the snowmobile savior took too straight and too fast a line to safely procure clazziquai from the snow. Directly on line for clazziquai's head at top speed, he continued forward; the savior was but a slayer.


The second quote is from clazziquai's death. Many have thought this pointed to me. I've explained my defense in a previous, so I'll instead try to point at someone else from the list. MyHeroNoob. If you think about, it's pretty obvious. Both situations he is suppose to be the "savior", the "hero"... but he turns out to be mafia. Also, it matches with the trend of previous hints. Hints have usually referred to someone's ID or signature, not their actions or posts. This leads me to point my finger at MyHeroNoob.

Now my next and last one goes all the way back to Day 1.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 & 2] +
Chuiu had just finished writing his speech to be given out the following morning in the town square before the time for festivities of love when he heard the terrible roar of noise and footsteps.


Evening fell on Liquidia and this Valentines day was one not to be forgotten.


These two clues had us looking at Valentine and Romance_us. I put this aside for awhile, but I think it is time to look at it against since Romance_us is now dead, and flipped townie.

<hr>

So who do I vote for then? The mafia likes to bandwagon and lynch a fellow mafia who they know is going down to save their ass. So let's take a look at the mafias who we know got lynched.

Unforgiven_ve - 15
randombum - dead
EmeraldSparks - dead
Falcynn - I believe to be innocent
clazziquai - dead
Empyrean - not on list
Fen
Vharox
goldenkrnboi
HotZhot - Elder NOT DEAD
MyHeroNoob
Live2Win
Romance_us
dancefayedance!~
zdd
Eti307

Of this list, MyHeroNoob and zdd both were the last few to vote for Unforgiven_ve, and are on the list of suspects.

Meanwhile, southlight was on both FakeSteve's and Tracil's list. He also has a clue here that points to him, in my opinion.
So my top suspects:

MyHeroNoob
zdd
southlight
valentine

I vote to lynch MyHeroNoob


3 out of 4 of these guys were actually Mafia!!! ARGHGHH!!!
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 12 2008 03:56 GMT
#3139
On March 12 2008 12:31 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2008 12:21 Tracil wrote:
-A player cap could be a good idea. We can easily run multiple mafia games at once, and split the total number of participants between several games. I think 30 should be the maximum (and I think 30 is on the side of very large.)

-Since the games are smaller, it would be easier for the mods to pick out players who aren't participating.

-We could also compare how setups play out in general, and thus everything I say will be VINDICATED AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAhahem. In time, Watson. In time, they will come to heed my wisdom.

You have a couple good ideas in a forest of bad ones. Sorry but DapperDan and I both disagree with a lot of what you've said in terms of game balance and methods of running and operating the game.

A lot of what Tracil has said made sense to me. I should think it comes down to a matter of taste.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 12 2008 04:39 GMT
#3140
A large game is fun. However it leads to a disadvantage towards the townies.

The mafias voting patterns for the last couple of votes and the ones that were going to come were to wipe out voters. A huge number of non-voters does nothing for the town because mafia will target voters to gain control.

To counteract this, I would like mafia to have the same disadvantage. Every mafia choses a person they wish to go after. It still takes 2 mafia to make a kill, but if you dont give in your attack for the night, then you dont get to kill anyone. Still requires coordination from Maifa.

Also, could the cycles please be done at spefic times. I checked every now and then, but was never sure of when it was going to be night and day. It would be better if we had an exact time that the game would update (I know thats a crap deadline for you chuiu, but its much easier for the players)
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