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Vivax
22414 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote: AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such. But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours. Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:28 rsoultin wrote: ... okay i'm tryna follow your logic. you're saying you think scum would want to paint you in a bad light so they'd all pile onto your scott lynch if he's town and kelsier is scum and then push you as the main proponent of the scott lynch when he flips town, is that what you're getting at? i mean yeah perfect world you'd rather go with the mislynch especially if you can just blame a townie for it later but that might be a little hard if they were lynching him too also it just doesn't matter if the scumteam's largely not voting or there's already a scum on scott | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:13 AlphaZero wrote: Yet you never voted for Scott and said he was not mafia. Please explain. You’ve swayed me but I prefer kel | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Town. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
certainly not when i'm townreading the other wagon i could be wrong on scott and i'm trying to keep an open mind on that, genuinely. the reads not changing much thing is legit it's honestly the only argument i've seen on him that i think is decent (sorry) idk tho which read of his do you think should have changed from a town perspective? | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote: I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read. Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well. Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid. What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted. Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word. Kelsi3r - nuff said Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself. Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either. Yes. I'm town. But that doesn't answer the question. If you're so convinced we should lynch AZ which I suppose you are by saying that the mind of town is closed, why isn't he in the list ? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:30 rsoultin wrote: i am saying scott has a level of trust in me, which means that the mocsta/az interaction going from scum-scum to something else *should* be a meaningful point of discoveryi'm confused are you saying that your read on az should make scott read az town if he's town? yet its not even captured as a point of note, as scott continues go back-forth with az its not even mentioned until prompted by me (timestamps could make it coincidental i guess) tbc, i am not saying scott should townread az because i changed my read. im saying his relation to me should be significant to create a re-evaluation point, like wtf just happened. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote: i can accept not pushing az agenda.. this is similar dilemma i was in 24hrs ago.AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such. But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours. my concern is that you have provided up to date summary reads, which have included AZ, and in that process, ignored my interaction with AZ. you have paid enough attention to me in your filter, that i would have expected that you have caught your attention and meant something, whether to AZ or even me. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:28 rsoultin wrote: ... okay i'm tryna follow your logic. you're saying you think scum would want to paint you in a bad light so they'd all pile onto your scott lynch if he's town and kelsier is scum and then push you as the main proponent of the scott lynch when he flips town, is that what you're getting at? Exactly so. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:40 rsoultin wrote: i think he should be concerned that his biggest advocate me, shifted my read on azlike i get getting squirrely when one wagon has way more traction than another i'm just not koshi. or is it vivax? who by the length of a wagon alone that must mean something especially on d1 when scum's largely outnumbered certainly not when i'm townreading the other wagon i could be wrong on scott and i'm trying to keep an open mind on that, genuinely. the reads not changing much thing is legit it's honestly the only argument i've seen on him that i think is decent (sorry) idk tho which read of his do you think should have changed from a town perspective? so even though he is suspicious of kelsier, az and ?vivax?, maybe ?sandroba? the answer to this question is a re-evaluation of both me and az... both are lacking | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:45 Mocsta wrote: i am saying scott has a level of trust in me, which means that the mocsta/az interaction going from scum-scum to something else *should* be a meaningful point of discovery yet its not even captured as a point of note, as scott continues go back-forth with az its not even mentioned until prompted by me (timestamps could make it coincidental i guess) tbc, i am not saying scott should townread az because i changed my read. im saying his relation to me should be significant to create a re-evaluation point, like wtf just happened. idk i don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative to not reconsider the person pushing their lynch when others townread them, at least not in a vacuum, unless you have reason to believe that scott in particular would do this as town and not scum? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:50 Mocsta wrote: i think he should be concerned that his biggest advocate me, shifted my read on az so even though he is suspicious of kelsier, az and ?vivax?, maybe ?sandroba? the answer to this question is a re-evaluation of both me and az... both are lacking i see what you're getting at. i also am townreading az after waffling on him and also have been vocal about not lynching scott. i just dk maybe i'm hard scum-aligning here but i think static reads in general is more concerning than not re-evaluating you or az based on your townread of him specifically | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Kelsi3r This was a ninja btw. I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder. + Show Spoiler + And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I have no clue who to vote and the wind that would have been in my sails kinda died. I can't help with this lynch but I should have more time to actually participate next cycle. I won't need to be replaced and I promise to come actually play the game. Just kinda momentous news that had me spinning for the past couple days. Thawwee. Will add vote to biggus waggus | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:45 AlphaZero wrote: Like what is this that keeps happening?? Why are people just removing Scott as a confidante like this. I may didn't read the thread perfectly from the last 10 hours because of my time Problem i have right now. But i was reading some old games from scott... town and mafia. The mafia games were kinda usless but the town stuff def. not | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote: Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read. Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well. Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid. What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted. Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word. Kelsi3r - nuff said Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself. Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28190396 It's fair I missed overlooked this post. DMB voting for my read? I'm a bit torn. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:50 rsoultin wrote: pay attention to this summary post.. in his world view:idk i don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative to not reconsider the person pushing their lynch when others townread them, at least not in a vacuum, unless you have reason to believe that scott in particular would do this as town and not scum? 1. i am town 2. kelsier scum read has relation to me 3. sandroba scum read has extesion to kelsier which extends to me 4. az scum read has relation to me 5. other scum reads are policy: no activity in short. i matter so my interaction with az/mocsta i believe should be significant to his world view - yet its not. On June 08 2024 01:04 scott31337 wrote: My memory isn't the best - but it was more flagging the post then "Scott is mafia with red flags." Wouldn't lynch order [..] Mocsta - I see him as town searching around - he seems to have an accurate read on me. [..] Could lynch order: Kelsi3r - His back and forths with Mocsta was pretty bad when Mocsta seemed genuine to me. Alakaslam - nothing of value contributed die_meatbaby - not enough info sandroba - Stayed on the Mason bandwagon after reading the thread - read of Kelsi3r and others seem bad AlphaZero - I don't think this is HF. Maybe DP? But seems to be a experienced player shitting up the thread. Hinted at me then went after Mocsta So I'm unvoting Trfel and voting for Kelsi3r. to re-inforce: who else does he ask this to? answer no one.. i matter in his world view On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote: Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:55 rsoultin wrote: thats fine.. although im not aware of any one that has a static readi see what you're getting at. i also am townreading az after waffling on him and also have been vocal about not lynching scott. i just dk maybe i'm hard scum-aligning here but i think static reads in general is more concerning than not re-evaluating you or az based on your townread of him specifically inactives dont count?? | ||
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