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On June 09 2024 09:10 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 08:44 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k Townie post :-) Az and Oats just dropped a lot in my book. But that‘s for another day My brother in Christ I followed you onto rayn Explain why Kelsier is mafia and Scott is not?
Could be both
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On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. i buy into this... there is an effort to convey he is up to date, and sufficiently active; yet this outcome in bold still holds.
rsoultin or anyone else.. would you agree that reads are mostly the same throughout entire d1 for scott?
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On June 09 2024 09:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:07 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:02 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 09:00 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:57 AlphaZero wrote:
Nothing about this wagon looks like we will lynch mafia. Just saying.
there's always sandy xDDDDD Even if he is mafia it still doesn’t work then i guess we're at an impasse Explain where the mafia are voting right now if kelsier is mafia? You think they are bussing day one? you say this like mafia never buss an afk partner on d1. i'm pretty sure i have and i can't be the only one ever in existence
Sure they could but it would be dumb, if we say Scott is town and there is a completely viable mislynch that az can take the flak for.
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On June 09 2024 09:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:10 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 08:44 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k Townie post :-) Az and Oats just dropped a lot in my book. But that‘s for another day My brother in Christ I followed you onto rayn Explain why Kelsier is mafia and Scott is not? Could be both
Yet you never voted for Scott and said he was not mafia.
Please explain.
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On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing?
The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort.
I got the opposite vibe from az as of late.
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On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late.
You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch.
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Whatever. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.
At least Mocsta is still thinking about things.
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one underlying issue i have with scott is that
when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.
my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.
now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.
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On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo.
I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read.
Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well.
Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid.
What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted.
Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word.
Kelsi3r - nuff said
Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself.
Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either.
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On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch.
In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam.
I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case.
What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence.
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On June 09 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read. Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well. Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid. What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted. Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word. Kelsi3r - nuff said Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself. Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either.
Dmb literally said she wants to vote your top scum read. That doesn’t change things for you.
Nothing actually changed lol. You just saying it kind of has.
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On June 09 2024 09:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch. In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam. I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case. What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence.
What do you want me to do about that. I’m not into lynching a lurker day one.
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On June 09 2024 09:05 Trfel wrote:Don't have much to say but I am bored so here goes anyway  I could be wrong about Kelsi3r being mafia. I just think the reasons to suspect him are the strongest of anything in the thread, regardless of activity. If I wasn't so darn awful at day 1 I'd be more confident about this, but at this point it is what it is. I've said all there is to say. I reread my filter from last game, the Paint game, looking for posts about scott31337. There was an opening tonal thing which didn't make sense to me but I don't think it's too similar to anything this game. But during day 1 he did make a reads post with no read on Oatsmaster, and then later voted for Oatsmaster. This in itself isn't bad, but when I asked him what changed, he said that Oatsmaster hadn't posted much before, and now that he'd posted, he looked scummy. But over half of Oatsmaster's posts were made before scott31337's reads post, where he had no thoughts on Oatsmaster. If scott31337 had said that the new posts were scummier, that's more understandable. Or that he simply hadn't paid any attention to Oatsmaster before, that's understandable. But the explanation he gave simply didn't make sense given what had happened in the thread. But he was town. So that's kind of my hesitation, scott31337 just thinks and communicates in a very different way than I do. This makes me want to find illogical things all over the place, but I'm just not sure if that's very helpful at all here. Frankly, the reasons for suspecting scott31337 in this game don't give me reason to think it's any different, either. Sure, on the surface the things look bad, but I don't think they're any more likely to come from a mafia mindset than town? Bad and mafia are very different things. I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD
This is a reasonable post until you get to the last paragraph.
Are you seriously going this way?
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On June 09 2024 09:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. i buy into this... there is an effort to convey he is up to date, and sufficiently active; yet this outcome in bold still holds. rsoultin or anyone else.. would you agree that reads are mostly the same throughout entire d1 for scott?
yeah took a look at the filter and looks like mostly just shifting of where he places his town and scum reads relative to each other though if i missed an actual read change lmk scott
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On June 09 2024 09:09 rsoultin wrote:
my shitty meta paranoid reason for not liking rayn this game is he always seems to find something i've said that's just too stupid to possibly come from town when he's town!rayn and my subjective perception is he doesn't do this as much as scum
but also if i mislynched rayn d1 while he's gone i'd feel like shit :/
I'm not lynching rayn today.
Sandroba - Keis - AZ
Maybe Slam
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On June 09 2024 09:11 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:10 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k Like what is this that keeps happening?? Why are people just removing Scott as a confidante like this. There's only two other mafia if you are one of them. If Keis1er is one of them, there's only one other you can control and chat with. Yes but I’m town. And anyone with half a brain who is also town can see that.
So when I flip town the will will lynch you tomorrow, right?
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On June 09 2024 09:22 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:21 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch. In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam. I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case. What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence. What do you want me to do about that. I’m not into lynching a lurker day one.
He‘s not a lurker ? He leaves enough room for interpretation, it comes down to whether you belive that mafia acts like mafia.
Leaving those alive makes it very hard to pursue their lynch at a later time so if we‘re going to lynch him, we have to do it now.
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On June 09 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:10 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 09:07 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:02 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 09:00 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:57 AlphaZero wrote:
Nothing about this wagon looks like we will lynch mafia. Just saying.
there's always sandy xDDDDD Even if he is mafia it still doesn’t work then i guess we're at an impasse Explain where the mafia are voting right now if kelsier is mafia? You think they are bussing day one? you say this like mafia never buss an afk partner on d1. i'm pretty sure i have and i can't be the only one ever in existence Sure they could but it would be dumb, if we say Scott is town and there is a completely viable mislynch that az can take the flak for.
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okay i'm tryna follow your logic. you're saying you think scum would want to paint you in a bad light so they'd all pile onto your scott lynch if he's town and kelsier is scum and then push you as the main proponent of the scott lynch when he flips town, is that what you're getting at?
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On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that
when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.
my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.
now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.
AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such.
But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours.
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On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that
when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.
my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.
now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.
i'm confused
are you saying that your read on az should make scott read az town if he's town?
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