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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
1. Yes 2. It's more than just the push - I posted the info with the Oats post and many others as well. 3. I have a lot of respect for Marv - especially as town. I mean i'm unsure what to say - I don't agree with it, but if Marv is town (and feeling him a slight town lean) It is what it is. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
Even if he is mafia it still doesn’t work | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:58 AlphaZero wrote: Unless you think me and Marv are mafia or the mafia is afk while their buddy gets lynched. Mafia are voting for Kelsier here almost certainly. there's also the world where they're just both town and scum doesn't have to do anything or the world where they'd rather be on a scum lynch cause kelsier's doing jack all and they want to look good when he flips but i take your point | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:35 AlphaZero wrote: This is still relevant. His scum reads have no foundation and he can’t really explain how they formed. That is objectively a mafia trait. What fucking foundation are you looking for? I've put it down multiple times. I swear people have the memory of... Who is your top scumread besides myself? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
then i guess we're at an impasse | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote: salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
That’s why it doesn’t work. Why aren’t they posting to save their scum buddy who has been the leading lynch candidate all game. You think mafia are content to afk while they lose their partner? I think not. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 I could be wrong about Kelsi3r being mafia. I just think the reasons to suspect him are the strongest of anything in the thread, regardless of activity. If I wasn't so darn awful at day 1 I'd be more confident about this, but at this point it is what it is. I've said all there is to say. I reread my filter from last game, the Paint game, looking for posts about scott31337. There was an opening tonal thing which didn't make sense to me but I don't think it's too similar to anything this game. But during day 1 he did make a reads post with no read on Oatsmaster, and then later voted for Oatsmaster. This in itself isn't bad, but when I asked him what changed, he said that Oatsmaster hadn't posted much before, and now that he'd posted, he looked scummy. But over half of Oatsmaster's posts were made before scott31337's reads post, where he had no thoughts on Oatsmaster. If scott31337 had said that the new posts were scummier, that's more understandable. Or that he simply hadn't paid any attention to Oatsmaster before, that's understandable. But the explanation he gave simply didn't make sense given what had happened in the thread. But he was town. So that's kind of my hesitation, scott31337 just thinks and communicates in a very different way than I do. This makes me want to find illogical things all over the place, but I'm just not sure if that's very helpful at all here. Frankly, the reasons for suspecting scott31337 in this game don't give me reason to think it's any different, either. Sure, on the surface the things look bad, but I don't think they're any more likely to come from a mafia mindset than town? Bad and mafia are very different things. I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote: Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k Well I would love to lynch AZ but that's not going to happen today. You have to present reasonable reasoning. I mean he may go after you next, but post your thoughts as of why. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
##vote Kelsi3r | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
Explain where the mafia are voting right now if kelsier is mafia? You think they are bussing day one? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:44 Vivax wrote: Townie post :-) Az and Oats just dropped a lot in my book. But that‘s for another day My brother in Christ I followed you onto rayn | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
but also if i mislynched rayn d1 while he's gone i'd feel like shit :/ | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:58 AlphaZero wrote: Unless you think me and Marv are mafia or the mafia is afk while their buddy gets lynched. Mafia are voting for Kelsier here almost certainly. Sure but how does that make him not mafia | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:08 Oatsmaster wrote: My brother in Christ I followed you onto rayn Explain why Kelsier is mafia and Scott is not? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2024 08:45 AlphaZero wrote: Like what is this that keeps happening?? Why are people just removing Scott as a confidante like this. There's only two other mafia if you are one of them. If Keis1er is one of them, there's only one other you can control and chat with. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
I’m not saying it does explicitly. I think the wagonomics make the percentages worse. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:05 AlphaZero wrote: That’s why it doesn’t work. Why aren’t they posting to save their scum buddy who has been the leading lynch candidate all game. You think mafia are content to afk while they lose their partner? I think not. If their mafia buddy (kel) is afk I don’t know how they can save him | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:07 AlphaZero wrote: Explain where the mafia are voting right now if kelsier is mafia? You think they are bussing day one? you say this like mafia never buss an afk partner on d1. i'm pretty sure i have and i can't be the only one ever in existence | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 09 2024 09:10 scott31337 wrote: There's only two other mafia if you are one of them. If Keis1er is one of them, there's only one other you can control and chat with. Yes but I’m town. And anyone with half a brain who is also town can see that. | ||
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