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On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part)
Nah we aren’t lynching for info that’s not a thing. (Info that is not related to blue roles)
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On June 09 2024 08:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions
- it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments
- it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia.
- his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical.
the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment.
- option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda
-option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things.
I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia.
It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely.
I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this.
This is a read and a consequential post relevance?
Is this for Scott or are you shitting up the thread?
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On June 09 2024 08:20 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions
- it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments
- it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia.
- his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical.
the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment.
- option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda
-option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things.
I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia.
It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely.
I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this.
This is a read and a consequential post relevance? Is this for Scott or are you shitting up the thread?
It’s for Scott
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On June 09 2024 08:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:01 AlphaZero wrote:
It's probably mocsta/scott/xxx someone like vivax or slam Reads
It's "probably" - means a got a cop out when none of it's true
And I only suspect maybe one mafia in that list
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On June 09 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) Nah we aren’t lynching for info that’s not a thing. (Info that is not related to blue roles)
lol that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying in a vacuum everything being equal
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On June 09 2024 08:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 07:54 scott31337 wrote:
But to answer your question, yes I am. cool cool So kelsi3r is your number #1 scumread because of filter + lack.of activity? Is az #2 because of this push on you? What do you make of Marv agreeing with said push? Have updated your oats read?
Hi Scott chasing your feedback pls
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On June 09 2024 08:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:16 rsoultin wrote:
i'd also be very, very surprised if there wasn't scum between sandy, kelsier and scott. i know that surprises literally no one but still It‘s tough when the nonvoters + sandro seem to be mia at the same time. Sandro‘s thought process that I quoted would be hard to fake though. It‘s always a bit complicated tho
mmm
i mean i'll acknowledge i could just be very tunneled on sandy, but i consider that y'all's fault for giving me so many people to townread xP
i'm assuming you mean the posts about scott and me?
i don't actually think there's much of any post that can't be made by scum as long as it's a normal thought for them to have as a player about what makes scum and town play when it comes to reasoning out a read? just think objectively what's scummy? you know? i guess that's why i look for people seeing things others haven't and bringing it to their attention
though you could argue that's what sandy did when saying my read on him was contrived lolol
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On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part)
This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing.
You would take that every time day one given the chance.
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On June 09 2024 08:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:18 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:16 rsoultin wrote:
i'd also be very, very surprised if there wasn't scum between sandy, kelsier and scott. i know that surprises literally no one but still It‘s tough when the nonvoters + sandro seem to be mia at the same time. Sandro‘s thought process that I quoted would be hard to fake though. It‘s always a bit complicated tho mmm i mean i'll acknowledge i could just be very tunneled on sandy, but i consider that y'all's fault for giving me so many people to townread xP
i'm assuming you mean the posts about scott and me? i don't actually think there's much of any post that can't be made by scum as long as it's a normal thought for them to have as a player about what makes scum and town play when it comes to reasoning out a read? just think objectively what's scummy? you know? i guess that's why i look for people seeing things others haven't and bringing it to their attention though you could argue that's what sandy did when saying my read on him was contrived lolol
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On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance.
-_-
all things being equal all things being equal all things being equal
two scumreads of equal weight two null reads of equal weight
one everyone's had to take stances on one barely mentioned
i'd favor the first
that's my point
yes, obviously, i prefer a damn scum lynch to a mislynch that's why i won't lynch into my townreads -_-
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On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance.
And do you think he‘s scum?
Hard to say for me with the low input.
Rayn seemed to think he was town.
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On June 08 2024 08:49 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott not considering the game state with my vivax read and what it means about my alignment is the second scummiest thing that happened this game.
The first being Scott’s opening posts.
Town circle activate!
This is still relevant.
His scum reads have no foundation and he can’t really explain how they formed.
That is objectively a mafia trait.
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On June 09 2024 08:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. And do you think he‘s scum? Hard to say for me with the low input. Rayn seemed to think he was town.
I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off.
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:33 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. And do you think he‘s scum? Hard to say for me with the low input. Rayn seemed to think he was town. I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off.
it wasn't
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On June 09 2024 08:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. -_- all things being equal all things being equal all things being equal two scumreads of equal weight two null reads of equal weight one everyone's had to take stances on one barely mentioned i'd favor the first that's my point yes, obviously, i prefer a damn scum lynch to a mislynch that's why i won't lynch into my townreads -_-
You have too many town reads though. It’s making me nervous honestly .
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But we aren’t lynching rso today. So let’s leave it at that.
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:33 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. And do you think he‘s scum? Hard to say for me with the low input. Rayn seemed to think he was town. I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off.
Yeah and blarantly so.
But it‘s meaningless if you don‘t post it with the intention of turning it into action.
You either want to call rsoultin or Slam mafia afterwards otherwise it was just a waste of energy.
And you don‘t want to look like that‘s your purpose for the tame.
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In my opinion it was just a superficially scummy thing to say. A scummer would be too afraid to phase it like that.
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. -_- all things being equal all things being equal all things being equal two scumreads of equal weight two null reads of equal weight one everyone's had to take stances on one barely mentioned i'd favor the first that's my point yes, obviously, i prefer a damn scum lynch to a mislynch that's why i won't lynch into my townreads -_- You have too many town reads though. It’s making me nervous honestly .
fine, be nervous. assume i have too many townreads cause i'm scum and know they're town and not because i'm trying to narrow down who i want to lynch when i have 5 out of 13 i'll join a wagon on
if i'm right and you're town you'll know it's genuine later idc if you think i'm bad for the way i play
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