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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 09 2024 01:18 GMT
#1221
On June 09 2024 10:16 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:07 rsoultin wrote:
gdit all the votes on kels are making me squirrely now too lolol

and then i wifom the shit out of that and ask what scum does seeing a massive wagon on a scummate

maybe they're just both town but then i'd kinda expect a more even spread

i still wanna lynch sandy -_-

idk what i'd do in scott's position as town with his reads on you mocsta, probably want to talk to you about it at least


Let's think here - rsoul.

Let's play you are town (which I'm thinking)

Let's think I'm town (Which I am)

Let's think AZ is mafia (Which I suspect)

The Keisl3r lynch makes sense in a way if he's mafia? Right? I feel he's given up.

AZ wants to lynch me (town) because his buddy (Mafia) will be lynched otherwise. Get Mafia D1 it's probably GG
!

You have the same mindset (or close) as me D1. It seems so weird!

Now, I've had a few drinks already tonight (Yes) - So I'm not trying to use any outs. I just might not be fully mindset.



okay but mocsta's issue is you haven't discussed az's alignment with him after seeing his townread and mostly i just don't like all these late votes on kelsier's wagon blaaah
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 01:18 GMT
#1222
On June 09 2024 10:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:23 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:05 Trfel wrote:
Don't have much to say but I am bored so here goes anyway

I could be wrong about Kelsi3r being mafia. I just think the reasons to suspect him are the strongest of anything in the thread, regardless of activity. If I wasn't so darn awful at day 1 I'd be more confident about this, but at this point it is what it is. I've said all there is to say.

I reread my filter from last game, the Paint game, looking for posts about scott31337. There was an opening tonal thing which didn't make sense to me but I don't think it's too similar to anything this game. But during day 1 he did make a reads post with no read on Oatsmaster, and then later voted for Oatsmaster. This in itself isn't bad, but when I asked him what changed, he said that Oatsmaster hadn't posted much before, and now that he'd posted, he looked scummy. But over half of Oatsmaster's posts were made before scott31337's reads post, where he had no thoughts on Oatsmaster.

If scott31337 had said that the new posts were scummier, that's more understandable. Or that he simply hadn't paid any attention to Oatsmaster before, that's understandable. But the explanation he gave simply didn't make sense given what had happened in the thread.

But he was town. So that's kind of my hesitation, scott31337 just thinks and communicates in a very different way than I do. This makes me want to find illogical things all over the place, but I'm just not sure if that's very helpful at all here.

Frankly, the reasons for suspecting scott31337 in this game don't give me reason to think it's any different, either. Sure, on the surface the things look bad, but I don't think they're any more likely to come from a mafia mindset than town? Bad and mafia are very different things.

I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD



This is a reasonable post until you get to the last paragraph.

Are you seriously going this way?

…



What the fuck is this?

I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD[/QUOTE]

Calling Trfel on an RNG randomization on picking a lynch from the OP?

What are you trying to do?

I thought you were out drinking with your buddies
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 01:19 GMT
#1223
On June 09 2024 10:15 AlphaZero wrote:
I’m not going to be around at deadline. I Think Scott’s the best lynch. Maybe I’ll get a vote off of something changes no guarentees


Remembered.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 09 2024 01:19 GMT
#1224
okay baby's up gdit okay i still want a sandy lynch guys i don't like not having time to reevaluate scott before the lynch but i'll go back to kels

and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 09 2024 01:21 GMT
#1225
Day One Vote Count

Kelsi3r (7): Mocsta, scott31337, Trfel, rsoultin, Oatsmaster, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, rsoultin
scott31337 (5): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, Vivax, Vivax, Mocsta
sandroba (0): rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (0): Oatsmaster
Vivax (0): Oatsmaster, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): Vivax
Trfel (0): scott31337

Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r

With 7 votes, Kelsi3r is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Sunday, Jun 09 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 01:22 GMT
#1226
On June 09 2024 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
okay baby's up gdit okay i still want a sandy lynch guys i don't like not having time to reevaluate scott before the lynch but i'll go back to kels

and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now
i still psoitively read you (todays chats were shifting a bit more towards that collaboration i recall you with), just disappointed. with a bit more time i reckon we would have settled on scott
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:22 GMT
#1227
I’m not in the best shape but:

We need a flip

I’m really frustrated with: slam, rayn, sand, kelsier (DMB)

That’s a lot of players in a 13p game to not be playing in second half of d1. Very disappointing. Don’t join games if you can’t give some effort.

I don’t wanna lynch sand for reasons people know but the absence is deeply, deeply annoying.

Tempting to just lynch kelsier to get rid of the trash but it’s deeply unsatisfying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 01:22 GMT
#1228
we need trfel, oats + rsoultin on the wagon of truth!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
June 09 2024 01:22 GMT
#1229
On June 09 2024 09:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:
On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.

Kelsier might have given up as either alignment.
town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing?


at the risk of answering for viva

if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either

1) try to get the lynch off them
2) shit up the thread

or they just roll over

i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch?

i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around
salient notion

alphazero - where does that sit with you?


Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously.


We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened.

Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo.




I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read.
Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well.
Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid.
What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted.
Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word.
Kelsi3r - nuff said
Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself.
Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either.



Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:38 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that

when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.

my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.

now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.


AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such.

But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours.


Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded.


Town.


Yes. I'm town. But that doesn't answer the question.

If you're so convinced we should lynch AZ which I suppose you are by saying that the mind of town is closed, why isn't he in the list ?


Still not answered unless I missed something.
Are you scotty ?

And Kelsier is…What was his name…
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:23 GMT
#1230
On June 09 2024 10:18 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:23 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:05 Trfel wrote:
Don't have much to say but I am bored so here goes anyway

I could be wrong about Kelsi3r being mafia. I just think the reasons to suspect him are the strongest of anything in the thread, regardless of activity. If I wasn't so darn awful at day 1 I'd be more confident about this, but at this point it is what it is. I've said all there is to say.

I reread my filter from last game, the Paint game, looking for posts about scott31337. There was an opening tonal thing which didn't make sense to me but I don't think it's too similar to anything this game. But during day 1 he did make a reads post with no read on Oatsmaster, and then later voted for Oatsmaster. This in itself isn't bad, but when I asked him what changed, he said that Oatsmaster hadn't posted much before, and now that he'd posted, he looked scummy. But over half of Oatsmaster's posts were made before scott31337's reads post, where he had no thoughts on Oatsmaster.

If scott31337 had said that the new posts were scummier, that's more understandable. Or that he simply hadn't paid any attention to Oatsmaster before, that's understandable. But the explanation he gave simply didn't make sense given what had happened in the thread.

But he was town. So that's kind of my hesitation, scott31337 just thinks and communicates in a very different way than I do. This makes me want to find illogical things all over the place, but I'm just not sure if that's very helpful at all here.

Frankly, the reasons for suspecting scott31337 in this game don't give me reason to think it's any different, either. Sure, on the surface the things look bad, but I don't think they're any more likely to come from a mafia mindset than town? Bad and mafia are very different things.

I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD



This is a reasonable post until you get to the last paragraph.

Are you seriously going this way?

…



What the fuck is this?

I mean, scott31337 is player number 4, Kelsi3r is player number 10, we could compromise and lynch player number 7, so raynpelikoneet? XD


Calling Trfel on an RNG randomization on picking a lynch from the OP?

What are you trying to do?

I thought you were out drinking with your buddies
[/QUOTE]
I just got home. It was clearly a joke, Scott. Which I can tell after many many units of alcohol. Why can’t you?!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 01:23 GMT
#1231
On June 09 2024 10:22 marvellosity wrote:
I’m not in the best shape but:

We need a flip

I’m really frustrated with: slam, rayn, sand, kelsier (DMB)

That’s a lot of players in a 13p game to not be playing in second half of d1. Very disappointing. Don’t join games if you can’t give some effort.

I don’t wanna lynch sand for reasons people know but the absence is deeply, deeply annoying.

Tempting to just lynch kelsier to get rid of the trash but it’s deeply unsatisfying.
yeah but can lynch kelsi3r without you switching wagons??
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:24 GMT
#1232
On June 09 2024 10:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:22 marvellosity wrote:
I’m not in the best shape but:

We need a flip

I’m really frustrated with: slam, rayn, sand, kelsier (DMB)

That’s a lot of players in a 13p game to not be playing in second half of d1. Very disappointing. Don’t join games if you can’t give some effort.

I don’t wanna lynch sand for reasons people know but the absence is deeply, deeply annoying.

Tempting to just lynch kelsier to get rid of the trash but it’s deeply unsatisfying.
yeah but can lynch kelsi3r without you switching wagons??

I’m struggling to care. If kelsier gets lynched after not playing he deserves it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 01:25 GMT
#1233
On June 09 2024 10:17 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:06 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:50 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
like i get getting squirrely when one wagon has way more traction than another i'm just not koshi. or is it vivax? who by the length of a wagon alone that must mean something especially on d1 when scum's largely outnumbered

certainly not when i'm townreading the other wagon

i could be wrong on scott and i'm trying to keep an open mind on that, genuinely. the reads not changing much thing is legit

it's honestly the only argument i've seen on him that i think is decent (sorry)

idk tho which read of his do you think should have changed from a town perspective?
i think he should be concerned that his biggest advocate me, shifted my read on az

so even though he is suspicious of kelsier, az and ?vivax?, maybe ?sandroba?

the answer to this question is a re-evaluation of both me and az... both are lacking


I don't mean to nitpick but don't use "he" "she" - use the persons name because it's more difficult at this time and in filters you see who you are speaking about
noted, will do my best to oblige moving forward

btw, i have decided to settle on

##unvote:
##vote: scott31337


nothing to do with this post FYI, although it struck me as odd that for all the stuff i have said about you past couple pages this is what was raised.. maybe, just maybe you didnt realise it was you because of the "he"


This really sucks because I've been townreading you because you make sense. And I really feel you are town.

I just wanted you to be more specific.
Especially for filters. If/May I get mislynched or shot, Your filter is easier to understand.

But if this is what it takes -
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:25 GMT
#1234
Why is rayn not voting with me and sand? And me specifically?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
June 09 2024 01:27 GMT
#1235
Getting old sucks ffs. Used to have impeccable memory.
Getting old when there‘s less competition than ten years ago sucks doubly.

For usefulness, I think everyone should vote Scott cause he saw AZ mafia out of nowhere.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:27 GMT
#1236
On June 09 2024 10:25 marvellosity wrote:
Why is rayn not voting with me and sand? And me specifically?

To be clear I don’t think rayn is still suspicious of me at this point if he has read the thread and if he’s gonna roll with anyone In this game I’d expect it to be with me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:32 GMT
#1237
A bookie just told me we are 100-1 to lynch mafia today regardless who gets lynched. Charming.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 01:34 GMT
#1238
On June 09 2024 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
A bookie just told me we are 100-1 to lynch mafia today regardless who gets lynched. Charming.


Who are the other two mafia besides me in your/Marvellosity's world?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
June 09 2024 01:35 GMT
#1239
On June 09 2024 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
A bookie just told me we are 100-1 to lynch mafia today regardless who gets lynched. Charming.


Oh wow bookies in game.

Gonna call my insurance agent and go live in the woods bubai.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 01:36 GMT
#1240
On June 09 2024 10:34 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
A bookie just told me we are 100-1 to lynch mafia today regardless who gets lynched. Charming.


Who are the other two mafia besides me in your/Marvellosity's world?

In case I haven’t been abundantly clear - fuck knows.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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