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On March 08 2024 02:36 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 02:28 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 02:24 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 02:23 Koshi wrote:
If you want my opinion:
rayn: because ve and or Palmar are mafia. I think mafia wouldn't kill rayn over marv if it wasnt the reads. Marv has way more pull in the thread. (Supertinfoil. Cuz marv is mafia and rayn claimed to him)
I forgot thz second kill lol. I am going insane. You need to consider Mafia either didnt believe Slam´s claim or were more afraid of Rayn / Sandro Yeah. Why not shoot slam. Would mafia have known rayn was blue? Because that would make it less likely slam also is blue? But then marv is mafia. That's the tricky part. Sandro and rayn are both solid shots on their own. I agree rayn either because of his reads or because Marv is mafia (doubtful). Sandro had a very strong position since he was backed by Marv almost unconditionally. But why would they ever let the claimed cop live? Not even role blocking him? This is the tricky thing. I think mafia is pretty narcissistic and do not consider Slam dangerous. It makes a bit of sense since I would assume Slam would visit Rayn, me or marv. @Slam: I am correct in that? Who would you have visited?
What do you mean would have visited? He DID visit somebody... and it would have to be a pretty stupid mafia team since it really doesn't matter who is getting the checks.
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On March 08 2024 05:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few things:
Slam, Vivax will work out by themselves. Caliin them mafia is completely useless.
Lynch Palmar, lynch VE. After D3 there is noone left to do that anymore and people AGAIN let them slide bewcause noone listen to dead people. Rayn protected Slam. A (first letter of post) = doctor and his target was the first person he mentioned.
So, mafia could have tried to shoot slam if they have a vigilante. That could be the missing piece then.
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On March 08 2024 05:40 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few things:
Slam, Vivax will work out by themselves. Caliin them mafia is completely useless.
Lynch Palmar, lynch VE. After D3 there is noone left to do that anymore and people AGAIN let them slide bewcause noone listen to dead people. Rayn protected Slam. A (first letter of post) = doctor and his target was the first person he mentioned. So, mafia could have tried to shoot slam if they have a vigilante. That could be the missing piece then. Really just thinking of every possibility except me being town, even things MORE unlikely than me being town
What does that have to do with you being anything? And how did I not think of the possibility of you being town? Are you drunk?
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On March 08 2024 05:44 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 05:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few things:
Slam, Vivax will work out by themselves. Caliin them mafia is completely useless.
Lynch Palmar, lynch VE. After D3 there is noone left to do that anymore and people AGAIN let them slide bewcause noone listen to dead people. Rayn protected Slam. A (first letter of post) = doctor and his target was the first person he mentioned. So, mafia could have tried to shoot slam if they have a vigilante. That could be the missing piece then. Really just thinking of every possibility except me being town, even things MORE unlikely than me being town What does that have to do with you being anything? And how did I not think of the possibility of you being town? Are you drunk? You think it’s more likely that mafia had 3 kp n1 instead of framing me?
I feel like losing brain cells entertaining you. Why wouldn't they have 3 kp? Mafia vigilante is a role in the OP.
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On March 08 2024 05:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are bending over backwards, behind and every which way to avoid calling me town jat even though you clearly think so, ridiculous
I literally called you towny. That was the last thing I said about your alignment.
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On March 08 2024 05:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv do you think palmar is mafia still or has that changed for you? I really don’t know. His first posts were so mafia to me. But then he made a bunch of tonal posts I liked. And sandro liked him more and more. Basically Im deferring everything until it’s necessary. I know that’s a sucky answer  Basically if I was obsing this game and palmar was about to flip, I’m not sure I’d have an expectation.
That does sound like you just don't want him to be mafia tbh.
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On March 08 2024 05:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are bending over backwards, behind and every which way to avoid calling me town jat even though you clearly think so, ridiculous I literally called you towny. That was the last thing I said about your alignment. So why are you trying to kill me??
I am letting you have a guess before answering.
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On March 08 2024 05:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 05:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few things:
Slam, Vivax will work out by themselves. Caliin them mafia is completely useless.
Lynch Palmar, lynch VE. After D3 there is noone left to do that anymore and people AGAIN let them slide bewcause noone listen to dead people. Rayn protected Slam. A (first letter of post) = doctor and his target was the first person he mentioned. So, mafia could have tried to shoot slam if they have a vigilante. That could be the missing piece then. Really just thinking of every possibility except me being town, even things MORE unlikely than me being town What does that have to do with you being anything? And how did I not think of the possibility of you being town? Are you drunk? You think it’s more likely that mafia had 3 kp n1 instead of framing me? I feel like losing brain cells entertaining you. Why wouldn't they have 3 kp? Mafia vigilante is a role in the OP. Why wouldn’t they have a framer? Mafia framer is a role in the OP
Sure, but if they have a vigilante the chance of them using it n1 is extremely high. The chance of the potential framer targeting you is extremely low.
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On March 08 2024 06:02 DarthPunk wrote:
I would trust Sandros read on palmar over Rayn if you are a sheeple.
And why would that be?
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On March 08 2024 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
And lastly because I also think palmar is town and I trust myself most of all 😛
Like last game - never change.
I am not convinced.
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On March 08 2024 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 05:59 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:54 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 05:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv do you think palmar is mafia still or has that changed for you? I really don’t know. His first posts were so mafia to me. But then he made a bunch of tonal posts I liked. And sandro liked him more and more. Basically Im deferring everything until it’s necessary. I know that’s a sucky answer Basically if I was obsing this game and palmar was about to flip, I’m not sure I’d have an expectation. That does sound like you just don't want him to be mafia tbh. Wtf? That sounds like he is not sure?? What about that sounds like he doesn’t want him to be mafia . This comes off as quite manipulative ngl. Care to respond to this?
What do you want me to say to this? Do you really believe I would think I can influence marvs read on Palmar as mafia? That's ridiculous.
I think Palmar is one of the scummier people around and usually marv should be able to tell if he isn't at this point.
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On March 08 2024 06:20 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 05:59 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:54 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 05:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv do you think palmar is mafia still or has that changed for you? I really don’t know. His first posts were so mafia to me. But then he made a bunch of tonal posts I liked. And sandro liked him more and more. Basically Im deferring everything until it’s necessary. I know that’s a sucky answer Basically if I was obsing this game and palmar was about to flip, I’m not sure I’d have an expectation. That does sound like you just don't want him to be mafia tbh. Wtf? That sounds like he is not sure?? What about that sounds like he doesn’t want him to be mafia . This comes off as quite manipulative ngl. Care to respond to this? What do you want me to say to this? Do you really believe I would think I can influence marvs read on Palmar as mafia? That's ridiculous. I think Palmar is one of the scummier people around and usually marv should be able to tell if he isn't at this point. Who else is mafia then aside from ve and palmar in your world?
Well, oats apparently. Rels & MZ are further candidates. I think I would even rank VE below them since he is just being useless and a bit too emoish while they have been actively scummy.
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On March 08 2024 06:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote:
I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats.
Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches.
They didnt care during night. Dont care now.
MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.
I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.
Rels
MZ
VE
Jacob
Palmar Why ignore tts
True. Forgot him. He can be mafia as well.
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On March 08 2024 09:55 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 09:49 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:48 CopCake wrote:
I mean blocking vivax is wild, unless they assumed that vivax would protect slam 🤔 Why is it wild? sandro and I and maybe rayn too both discussed jk is stronger than cop. Mafia marv has two options - block rayn - block vivax Both of them (at least rayn) decides to protect slam. Therefore mafia knows not to waste kills there. So either rayn or vivax got blocked (duh) over slam. But why not block slam if rayn or vivax would protect slam anyways? (In mafia marvs perspective) I think this kinda clears marv? I mean that would be the best mafia play. Block slam because he would be protected anyways and you know rayn would waste his doc on him and vivax would JK block/ slam So the one who got blocked was vivax and no rayn! Marv is town by night actions. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I don't think that is true. Rayn posted his action right before deadline in the thread. Until when does the mason work? Only dayphase, right? So marv probably did not know what he was going to do in time to adjust the night actions. Unless marv is lying about the code and rayn already told him during the day but I find that hard to believe.
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I generally think marv wouldn't put on a show about revealing this code. Regardless of his alignment he probably found out when he told us.
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On March 08 2024 09:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 09:52 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 09:49 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:48 CopCake wrote:
I mean blocking vivax is wild, unless they assumed that vivax would protect slam 🤔 Why is it wild? sandro and I and maybe rayn too both discussed jk is stronger than cop. We should have pushed harder for Rayn. May have been game losing not to to be honest. We just didn’t think it was possible.
This was a very predictable result though. My conscience is clean.
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On March 08 2024 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:26 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity How serious are you about this vote? I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait My vote is on jat. What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes? I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process Could you elaborate with examples please? Helps me TR people when people say more than "this is what I believe now because of stuff." Listing quotes and links and stuff. I know you did this before, and this take can use some of that IMO. Ok easy, first I have to read it under the assumptions vivax has which is that oats is town. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 20:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller. This kinda stuff now reads like TMI if you assume oats is town. Thinks hes town but still wants to lynch him oh and by the way he might be the miller. Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are bending over backwards, behind and every which way to avoid calling me town jat even though you clearly think so, ridiculous I literally called you towny. That was the last thing I said about your alignment. Again, someone who's not going to be surprised if oats flips town when I first read through these didn't stand out very much, but looking again and trying to think what vivax might be thinkinng I can see where these would stand out. Of course I could be totally off base which is why I asked vivax to explain, I just wanna understand where hes coming from.
Maybe you can explain to me the benefit of what I said there as mafia if oats really flips Miller.
Will people go "yay, JAT knew it all along! what a good townie!"? Do you think I would believe that?
It's good that MZ has started playing. Not sure I like what I am seeing though. There is a lot of unwarranted anger at potentially derailing the Oats wagon when that is not happening at all - it seems that anger is expected of him as town (? - I do not really remember his meta) but it still is a bit over the top for me. And 99 % of what he posts is about exactly that. Really easy content tbh.
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On March 08 2024 11:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The egos people have in this game to sit here and try to talk around probability is absurd. Someone doing it is scum.
On March 08 2024 11:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
look vivax Im ngl, oats has made posts that if he made them 48 hours ago Id def townread him too, but I don't think Im better at reading the game than the probability of events that had to occur for him to somehow be checked wrong. Like I do get why you don't wanna lynch him but its still the right move.
lol
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On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.
So does that mean that all of the following have to be town? Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1) On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment: What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI. On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here? On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too. That does not mean that this people are Town for me. It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear. What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!!
As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head. And the Ve post is good He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early. Compassion would be the best description
DMB, can you explain the bolded part again for me? I am not sure I am following.
From what I saw last game the dumbtelling in the thread could really be something dmb would be excited to do as mafia.
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To explain - what I am seeing is that you say you wouldn't do the exact same thing you did last game as mafia this time. But I don't understand why.
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