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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 12:18 GMT
#238
On August 25 2023 21:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:31 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤


Well there are always more townies, so from a compassionate friendly perspective, in future games it is also best to be as easily townread when town as well

Could we drop this and something useful instead?

Am I not allowed to enjoy myself?

Anyway it might be useful if I can logic Koshi into a corner…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 12:29 GMT
#240
I guess, it’s not enough of a thing for me to think it’s a thing though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 12:35 GMT
#245
On August 25 2023 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
I guess, it’s not enough of a thing for me to think it’s a thing though

I think it's thing for Jacob's alignment though, since aside from VE's alignment (which he definitely can't discern there) it was the most useful observation.

Yeah I like that more. But it’s still not that much.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:44 GMT
#283
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#286
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:46 GMT
#287
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.

I flatter myself to think I am extremely hard to pocket
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:47 GMT
#290
On August 25 2023 22:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me

how could anyone not be baby

💕💕
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:48 GMT
#292
On August 25 2023 22:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?

I know Koshi enough to say he would of tried hard and not get himself lynched as mafia Day 1 like that. In fact I remember him bitching about not having enough time to do stuff and wanted more time when he was mafia in Horns of Africa.

I don’t mind this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:50 GMT
#294
On August 25 2023 22:48 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin why cant me and marv not both be mafia making a "correct" read on town (or even mafia) VE?


You could I suppose , but It seems unlikely to me that two mafia teammates would make a simultaneous town read where they piggy back off each other. Don't mafia teammates try to create seperation between each other typically?

Well actually it wasn’t simultaneous exactly, it was cleverly crafted where Koshi said something about VE and the only reason I mentioned it at all was because of what Koshi said. Next level play in that case!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:08 GMT
#303
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

Do you really think this is why LS is ever mafia though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:12 GMT
#308
On August 25 2023 23:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.

Hedging this early is super natural regardless.

I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this.

And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:13 GMT
#310
On August 25 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me


Cause you always try and get me lynched at some point I guess.

*hastily scrubs out day 3 plans from calendar*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:15 GMT
#312
On August 25 2023 23:14 DarthPunk wrote:
So LS is scum here hey marv?

Eh?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:17 GMT
#314
Not really. Why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:19 GMT
#316
On August 25 2023 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.

Hedging this early is super natural regardless.

I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this.

And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason


Do you think that is a good reason to read him town?

It’s not a bad one. Two strong players early TR someone, probably a better reason to TR someone than anything else this early
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:59 GMT
#331
On August 25 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
Not really. Why?


You are the LS whisperer apparently.

I didn't like how he used IRL to exit the thread as soon as he was under pressure.

Reminds me of the last time he was mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?


Also, this: very disconnected from the thread, no one thinks this so why is he asking this? the position on Jacob generally is slight town read.

It's like a halfhearted effort to change the direction of the discourse from himself, to like the most out their topic before he nopes out of the thread.

I’m not gonna tell anyone how to read LS. But for me:
1. Is he invested?
2. Do his emotional reactions seem genuine?

Are what I’m looking for. Sure LS could be mafia (although I have no reason to think so currently), but I think if you’re gonna lynch him for inconsistencies or disconnected from what’s going on in the thread right now, or thinking weirdly, then you’re gonna lynch him every single damn game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 15:04 GMT
#336
Rayn, my answer to DP there is the same answer to your question to me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 15:26 GMT
#348
On August 26 2023 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.

I completely understand that, however LS didnt say that at all in the first post, whoch he should have done if he thought that genuinely.

And this circles back round to - if you’re gonna lynch him for that, you’ll lynch him every game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 17:24 GMT
#355
On August 26 2023 02:02 Chezinu wrote:
Hello Europe!

Hello, studmuffin
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 19:10 GMT
#369
On August 26 2023 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?

what a stupid question after the initial one lol :D

nothing I particularly want to talk about at this stage
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