VE filter dive:
On May 25 2023 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Vivax seemed fine with meat Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.
As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.
I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.
Got to filter MZ still. Until this post here....then the tone shifts dramatically. It's less about trying to figure out meat's alignement and seems way more like trying to justify the eventual vote.Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 08:21 Vivax wrote:On May 24 2023 08:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:59 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 07:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote:
@Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game? First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own.. Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative). Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence? And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time? yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me You don't know how I usually play. And that's not about the discord timing thing either. There were a bunch of people posting at similar timings, not just me and rayn. That's what Koshi was pointing out among other things. Maybe you think that's a way of reading people, but nobody else does  . Where was any indication that me and rayn posted in tandem? Why should we ? On the other hand it could 'dumbtell' you as the lack of knowing that mafia chat isn't that super active could mean you're town. This bears out in following posts, I won't post them all because they all say the same thing. I'll summarize: "Hum haw, I think meat is meat and gawrsh I feel bad but out of my hands, talk to rayn/koshi! *shrugz0rz*" ##Vote Vivax
I really like this post because I was picking up the same vibes with Vivax at the time.
On May 25 2023 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still think the meat train sucks. Like, I'm filtering Vivax now and I'd much rather lynch that than the meaty one. Here I'll show you. Where did the one of marv/DP is scum end and why? Did you not hear my song? Marv and DP both look better on reread, idk if work/sleep changed my perspective, but they both seem town now. I couldn't even remember when I woke up and filtered MYSELF why I actually thought marv was mafia. DP has been like ubertryhard town the whole time.I'm more interested in why you give a shit unless you want to lynch one of DP or marv and why you aren't CURRENTLY voting Vivax.
Don't really like this because I think you should be able to recall your reasons from the night before, and if he was pushing lynches from nothing and saying things like 'one of DP and marv is scum' for no reason then that is more likely to be something that happens to mafia as they are not stating things based on analysis but rather to blend in or seem contributory.
On May 25 2023 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
So I think it had something to do with how I kinda scumread both of them, but marv was effectively distancing. Honestly I don't remember why I said that specific thing. lol
Could you maybe vote Vivax now? I did the thing :D
Yeah this is weak.
On May 25 2023 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay marv maybe you can point out where you think Vivax actually cares about figuring out meat's alignment.
Or maybe you think he like, as town, thinks trying to read someone that close is cheating? Meta?
Whatever man, I think it's scummy and further the scummiest thing in the thread aside from MAYBE Chez avoiding modkill.
I like this focus he has on getting vivax lynched and Im not sure why he would do this as mafia. It seemed to me at the time of that wagon that he really cared about the outcome of the lynch which I read as townie at the time.
I think marv mentioned that he may have done that as scum just because he can, but I don't think that actually diminishes the facts of the matter in terms of he clearly cared about his vote and the outcome on a town vs town wagon.
On May 25 2023 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I did consider it obviously. But I hard read meat town based on my personal experience playing with someone in the same house. I played Video Mafia with Matriarch a couple times and ALL I WANTED TO DO was figure out Becca's alignment, like knowing I wouldn't be able to talk to her about it and KNOWING it would make NO difference at all IN the game, it felt IMPORTANT to me to figure out her alignment.
It feels like meat is poking Vivax trying to get that read and it feels like Vivax has no interest.
I recall strongly agreeing with the ideas behind this post at the time in the thread as something I could genuinely relate to. I still like it.
On May 25 2023 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I just don't see how DMB is actively harming town. Me posting Herby seemed more detrimental to town than anything meat is posting. What it feels like is meat is salty that Vivax doesn't INSTA read her town so she's like, making us pay. LOL
IDK it looks to me like meat trying to figure out Vivax alignment with the knowledge that everything they're hearing or not hearing isn't supposed to be taken into account, so they're overcompensating by bringing it all to the thread. And while I hate reads like this, it feels to me like Vivax is salty about the attention AS mafia. They certainly aren't trying to figure out meat's alignment in this thread. But they ARE willing to meme with meat. Like...honestly it is probably my previous exp playing with someone in the house, and it's hard to divorce that from my read.
There could be an argument that the defense of DMB is a result of additional information, but I don't like this because:
A: I had the same or similar views.
B. Its an association based on an assumed alignment of an unflipped player.
On May 25 2023 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think it's way more likely she's town, poking and prodding the one person she knows in the thread, trying to figure out his alignment, in a way she thinks town won't lynch her for, very actively, and she FUCKING NAILED HIS COCK TO THE FLOOR!
This feels genuine and the way the DMB posts interelate with the Vivax read really make sense and seems hard to fake IMO.
On May 25 2023 06:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2023 06:05 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 06:00 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2023 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here I just don't know what to do, you aren't budging and you and Koshi are gonna bring this one home. No one agrees with me on Vivax and anyone else I'd lynch either isn't in the building or currently posting and not relevant. So I played a little Spore.
I can put a vote on Chezinu, the longer he's gone after avoiding modkill with post the longer I'm sus, but he's at least not in here shitting up the thread so it's meh. Why haven’t you engaged with me at all about MZ? Why didn’t you answer my question about Vivax’s motivations vis a vis MB? There has been plenty for you to get involved with. Because I wanted to play Spore, I swear I said that. re: Viv - I did, wasn't the question "Can you see this?" and I said "I considered it but think it's less possible"? I'll just go back and reread, but I need to go get lunch and junk. I did engage with you about MZ, I said I'd reread if you want me to and you never responded - then he posted so I figured there is content there to judge instead of meta, so I readed his post and it looked fine. He poppin on the meat train and that deflates me, but it's whatever. He COULD be mafia, but I'm feeling townishesque based on what's in the thread. No, you said you played Spore because there was nothing you wanted to say, the causal relationship is hehe other way round. Okay if we're being honest, I wanted to play Spore so I disappeared. My partner finally loaded it up and we've been playing it. But mine keeps shitting me off so here I'm back. But to be frank, that's neither here nor there. I've said my piece and given my reasoning and it's sound and yall can jerk each other off as much as you want, it doesn't change the fact that no one is even considering my input and is in fact saying I'm scummy for providing it. So there's no reason for me to be in here posting other than to clear myself and if you're suspicious of me you're doing a shit job of trying to get me lynched so I have no impetus to defend myself either. So go on marv. Talk about my causal relationship and how it makes me mafia or whatever. Unless you're going to try and get me lynched, which I welcome, then don't worry about when/if I play Spore. It's a shit game anyway.
I think this post shows a town mindset because of the fact that he is showing genuine frustration at people ignoring his contributions and instead making him defend himself. That seems hard to fake as scum.
On May 25 2023 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was already townie on MZ before he went AWOL and the only thing that I didn't like was THAT he went AWOL and then he came back and his content looked fine. His read progressions made sense in the context of when they were posted.
I think what happened is that MZ was working on his post for like an hour or something getting the formatting right, acquiring quotes, and that hour that he was taking was one of the most active hours in the game. And when he came back a lot of his reads were outdated and questions he had were already answered. So what you're taking for scummy is just aggravation about the activity burst after his post.
I had actually typed all this out when he said he would detunnel and decided not to dick with it, I wish I had then.
I think this is really strong and potentially accurate analysis and a good reason for VE to act the way that he does later.
At this point VE:
1.) Strong town reads DMB and Scum reads Vivax. Based on ideas and logic that I can follow
2.) town reads MZ a read which naturally evolves, and I think the post above shows that he actually thought about and had reasons as to why.
On May 25 2023 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote:If I had a gun I'd shoot the fuck out of Onegu. Like okay dude, I literally off-voted you before you even got back you aren't going to even look at anything else in the thread? But I don't, and because I can kinda see a lazyTownOnegu doing that same OMGUS shit I probably wouldn't push his lynch today. TODAY.
On May 25 2023 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, he even tried to get meat to vote me too, which is just one more point for town Onegu - maf Onegu probably just vote me and fuck off again right?
On May 25 2023 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meeehhhh....that's weak af I'd probably lynch Onegu. Def before lynching meat. Probably before lynching MZ.
This train of posts seem like he is considering Onegu genuinely, changing his mind a little and his conclusion is consistent with his other reads at the time.
On May 25 2023 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:24 Vivax wrote:
I‘ma call it a nighty-o
1gu I hope delivers something decent in the future. I don‘t think he read anything at all tbh.
LS gets a downgrade for last appearance while rayn is being annoying on me, redeemed by being observant on him tho.
I‘m sorry if MZ is town.
I‘d also add (to reasons why I think he’s mafia) that his complaint about the egregious posting was warranted, at the same time it felt a bit like he was exaggerating his reaction. Maybe to gain a bunch of cheap cred with those insulted.
Should be an interesting angle to revisit at some point. Dont worry i wont be advocating a lynch on you in ANY case (while i think you could be mafia) here. You will live to see D2. You read it here folx, rayn is actively trying to protect mafia Vivax from the lynch. I think this is where rayn fucked up ladies and gentlemen. Until now his play could be classified as stubborn town, this post right here proves that he's actively trying to harm town, removing the stubborn town possibility entirely because townRayn would never ever not lynch Vivax if he thinks he's mafia if the lynch is viable in this situation. FUCKING GOTTEEEEEEEEMMMMM
On May 25 2023 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
When Vivax flips red I hope town does the sane thing and bolts a steel plate to rayns face and just lynch him with no discussion whatsoever.
These posts make zero sense and have no purpose for MAF VE to make if he is about to lynch town vivax, like what is the point here?
On May 25 2023 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Im down with a vivax lynch, for a variety of reasons.
1,) I feel like several times he has been trying to establish that he will go on some kind of revenge arc if DMB flips town, particularly with Marv
2.) I think if DMB is town, then there is probably some merit in the out of thread stuff she has been alluding to with him.
3.) he has been trying to establish a metric for his alignment equating to active = town, even though I think he would be active in this circumstance as either alignment due to the DMB stuff and there is also the fact that DMB stated he was lurking the thread for hours, at which point activity increased.
4.) I think rayn and DMB are correct in that he is not suspicious or seem like he is curious about solving the game, which in his own words is the very driver of the aforementioned activity tell he apparently has as town,.
##Vote Vivax CHOOO CHOOOOOOOOOO LETS GOOOOOOOO
Like is this fake? seriously? he knows he is leading a wagon from a townie onto a townie and he is like super stoked?
Yeah I don't buy it.
On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. Why bad? Genuinely curious.
Instead of relief for being town read the mood is annoyed for being called bad.
On May 25 2023 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 09:19 Alakaslam wrote:On May 25 2023 06:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
i am just scared to leek private things about v. don´t want to hurt anybody here If it is political, agree be very careful. I am incapable. I can't read M_Z this game and will sheep Marv. NO SHEEP ME WTF
Why does scum VE care this much?
On May 25 2023 10:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yasss winnning
Where's your clock now Vivax? WHERE'S YOUR CLOCK NOW?!?!
Is this literally like next level mafia play, fucking stoked about this lynch and about to be shit on real hard in the night post?
Like it makes no sense, it would be so impressive to fake the emotion and care factor that VE has behind the whole Vivax wagon.
The only rational I can have for this being Maf VE is if he was (genuinely) super stoked that he cucked Marv, rayn and Koshi and got his lynch instead of theirs.
On May 25 2023 11:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Not ideal, timezone issues coming into play, if he was here he could have claimed at least. He said he was gonna set a clock. Ugh.
Immediately blame others when you lynch the doctor, yeah, I can relate.
On May 26 2023 10:20 VisceraEyes wrote:A Public Service Announcement From VisceraEyes I apologize one and all for leading the town to this tragedy, but we press on. Obviously everyone on the Vivax lynch is in the hot seat. I led the lynch but because I'll be doing my utmost to figure this shitshow I created out, I'll go ahead and hope to not be the lynch D2. So that leaves meat, DP, MZ, Slam and Chez up for lynch today fmp. I'm probably going to start by advocating for a Chez/Onegu lynch. I understand an 11th hour shenanigans, it's good wholesome fun. But then both did like literally nothing over the night-phase? Chez could even be seen as an attractive night-kill if you squint. Anyway I certainly like it more than a busy-body DP or a (admittedly waning) townread MZ lynch. Slam is.....slam. I feel like slam could always be called a coinflip. There could be something there though, I'm going to spend the rest of the night filtering. He's on the list. It seems likely or even probable that there are 2-3 mafia inside the Vivax lynch, but that math is skewed a bit if MZ is also town. Then they could be anywhere and have literally anything in mind. If MZ is town even the town leaders on HIS lynch could be mafia. I..........don't want to live in this world. But circumstances force me to consider it. I'll leave it for another day - or when someone asks I guess. The important thing to remember going forward is that this is NOT over. We will NOT give up. We will NOT surrender our town to the red menace. We will NOT simply roll over and let this scourge cow us into complacency. THIS
IS
LIQUIDIA
Fucking hate this post. Way too crafted for my tastes. I think the content is fine, and pretty much reflects alot of other players thoughts.
Now that I think about it he made that wacky song too when entering the thread. That seems weird to me but I don't know what it means.
I think VE's posting drops off a cliff after D1:
He posts this
On May 26 2023 11:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
DP I'm going to be honest with you - I have no fucking idea. It's like I said before the flip - if MZ is town too then that means who is on what wagon when is utterly meaningless. Mafia could have flowed freely from one to another and it make no difference to them. MZ flipping green actually helps MAFIA more than it helps us.
I want to say that mafia are in the lurker class because I'm so fucked up right now, but that feels like a copout. That just tends to be the case when a game is so fucking hard like this. It's actually WHY I advocate lurker lynches early, but I digress. I'm looking at Onegus and LSes and Chezes like I was before the flip I think. While keeping an eye to active players not making any sense.
The feeling of defeat was super relatable, maybe mostly to me as I was the other person incredibly influential in the Vivax lynch
The game felt incredibly bad at this point, and honestly I was feeling defeated and confused so I could relate to VE here and it felt like this was a genuine headspace for him to be in.
On May 27 2023 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
My reasoning on why the Vivax lynch - from my perspective the only reason mafia would prefer one lynch vs another is if they had a blue read on one vs another. It's entirely possible that mafia joined the Vivax wagon because they had a blue read on him, and Chezinu is a NOTORIOUS blue sniper.
I don;t like the Chez vote over Onegu, but his reasoning is fine.
On May 27 2023 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:
Why would supporting you on Vivax lynch make DP more townie? Because he's seeing the same game as me, I honestly was sure Vivax was mafia and he didn't just sheep me, he came in and pushed it over. Mafia DP would've just sheeped me no? Let me take the fall alone for the mislynch? It doesn't to you. It does to me. If that makes sense.
I honestly agree that we are seeing the same game, I think one of us just needs contacts.
On May 27 2023 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Because he knows it'll never go. Dude's posted like twice and everyone has opinions that don't include Onegu. It's why I DIDN'T vote Onegu, actually.
Confirmation bias, I think this is hard to fake actually, as scum.
On May 27 2023 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:yo wtf how does rayn go from On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. to On May 27 2023 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i am almost done with VE and voting him no matter what..
it's just too bad at the moment, i need a break. like I don't even Are you really just salty that I cucked your townie MZ lynch? Fuck off guy. I told you IN THIS THREAD that I was doing it you don't get to be mad about it because you fucked off and let me. No, i am annoyed you call me "intentionally obtuse" a number of times when i am definitely not and making arguments you YOURSELF agree with, like: On May 25 2023 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Especially with your god reads backed up by Koshi and the rest of the sheeple? Why would any mafia fucking stay tunneled on marv in that situation?
Like this is what I'm talking about rayn, it feels like you're being intentionally obtuse, I understand biases but this feels...targeted. With intent. With an agenda. like comeon you agree with my point it's a possibility when i was arguing i didnät think town meapak would un-tunnel marv. And then i am intentionally obtuse? On May 26 2023 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on. Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it? Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!! This is full bullcrap because you're comparing scenarios some hours into the game vs some hours into the lynch and making it look like in both situations people should have the same amount of information on who gets lynched. Can you at least see hw there could be some holes in your thinking? But yeah no, rayn is intentionally obtuse playing like newbie. And this: On May 25 2023 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:24 Vivax wrote:
I‘ma call it a nighty-o
1gu I hope delivers something decent in the future. I don‘t think he read anything at all tbh.
LS gets a downgrade for last appearance while rayn is being annoying on me, redeemed by being observant on him tho.
I‘m sorry if MZ is town.
I‘d also add (to reasons why I think he’s mafia) that his complaint about the egregious posting was warranted, at the same time it felt a bit like he was exaggerating his reaction. Maybe to gain a bunch of cheap cred with those insulted.
Should be an interesting angle to revisit at some point. Dont worry i wont be advocating a lynch on you in ANY case (while i think you could be mafia) here. You will live to see D2. You read it here folx, rayn is actively trying to protect mafia Vivax from the lynch. I think this is where rayn fucked up ladies and gentlemen. Until now his play could be classified as stubborn town, this post right here proves that he's actively trying to harm town, removing the stubborn town possibility entirely because townRayn would never ever not lynch Vivax if he thinks he's mafia if the lynch is viable in this situation. FUCKING GOTTEEEEEEEEMMMMM Actively harm town my ass, all you even had was your read based on Vivax interactions with mebaby, where your town read marv had already agreed with me your read is not necessarily true. And that immediately translates to rayn is mafia? And after that all, you have to come and call me all kind of things and try making it look i am somehow offending you? I came to this game to play a nice game of mafia, you're ruining it. Sadly i don't even know if you're doing it because you're mafia or just an ass right now... You're the one getting personal and calling people bad. I could be wrong about your intentions, because I'm fucking town and I don't know your alignment. But you're calling me bad which applies regardless of my alignment. Fuck you rayn. You're not going to gaslight me into thinking I'm doing anything wrong here, you're the one with a bad fucking attitude because I DARE question you. I'm playing the game. Maybe you don't like how I'm doing it, but I'm doing it. I'm not ruining shit. I never called you "all kinds of things" I said it was like I was playing with newbie rayn because it felt like you aren't considering simple shit that WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS GAMES/POSTGAMES. And I did that ONE time. I'm not being mean to you or being offensive or anything like that. Maybe my reads are offensive to you. Maybe you dislike my reasoning. You were right that the Vivax read was wrong. Was it bad? Maybe. Maybe not. With a sample size of 2 I guess we'll find out eventually. So you're either trying to gaslight me intentionally because you're fucking mafia, or you're actually so full of yourself as town that you literally think anyone who has a different opinion from you is bad at the game. I'm going to be honest, I think maybe you're just town and a fucking dick.
This emotion feels genuine to be honest. I can relate to some of the feelings in this game, where you can be called bad or mafia for just not agreeing with dominate town voices in the thread.
I am sad that his post happened because I like rayn and this just shit things up, but I am not convinced Maf VE could fake this, particularly because VE was already slightly ruffled that he was called bad on Day 1.
Do you actually fake annoyance at being called bad day one, only to lose it day 2 when the same person calls you bad again, because if he is mafia, he KNOWS he is not bad and he has killed 3 town at this point and the Doc and the Vig are dead.
Yeah not buying it.
On May 27 2023 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 09:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 27 2023 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 27 2023 08:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 27 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this: On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed? for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here: On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
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Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) Which he did reply to my post here: On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
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What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right? dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here: On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. and continued here: On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something? and tried to act confident on lynching him here: On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously? She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point. Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases. I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance. I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem: On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
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Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me  When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that. First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover. At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to. Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should. Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure. I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well For now i make a new list with my thoughts 1) TankTopTiger Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town. 2) Alakaslam No opinen right now, but more like town 3) Chezinu Town 4) Vivax lynched day 1. Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts 5) LightningStrike Town (for now) 6) DarthPunk Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat 7) Onegu not activ, what should I say about it 8) Koshi killed night 1 sorry but told he is town 9) die_meatbaby doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now 10) raynpelikoneet def Mafia At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post. "Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town." This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life. 11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1 Sorry for saying you where m 12) marvellosity Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang) 13) VisceraEyes 1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus @raynpelikoneet @VisceraEyes I would like to see a anwer from both of you I think you should be voting for Chezinu instead of me. That's my answer. You literally didn't have anything for me to respond to. Ahhhhh but why is Chez the best lynch out of everyone left  I don’t like it! Because he's a blue sniper and was super late to the Vivax wagon. He's done nothing, he hasn't read, he has given no reads, the only content he has is that he likes LS reads post, ONE of LS reads post, no analysis of LS previous posts or how the reads line up with previous reads. It's scummy as sin! I have no idea what he thinks about anyone! I don't even know why he's voting for Onegu, WHO LS DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IN HIS POST He's the best because we've got nothing better. I'm in here trying to play and trying to lynch mafia. Don't lynch me. I know I'm probably the most attractive candidate.
I am not convinced Chez is maf, but I think this post makes sense if you do.
Conclusion:
Honestly, I think I feel much better about a town! VE based on reading and analyising his play this game. I don't think he is a good lynch and apart from the sketchy Marv DP read day one and the crafted entry posts to the threads.
I could be though roughly bamboozled here and if VE is scum he deserve props because I just can't see it.
At all.
If you are on the VE wagon I would appreciate the time for you to read this post. I have put a lot of effort into reading his game so far so that you don't have to.
All you have to do is read this post.
If you agree with my thoughts on VE, I can happily suggest an LS or Onegu lynch for today.
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