EPTOn March 04 2022 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Btw how does this have 1.4k views
Btw how does this have 1.4k views
It's because i am very curious of what happens to a Chezinu on an island.
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It's because i am very curious of what happens to a Chezinu on an island. | ||
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Is this still a thing? I might believe too :O | ||
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Grack you should have just started the game with like 0 ppl 6 months ago to fill it instantly :D | ||
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On August 25 2022 01:51 Grackaroni wrote: Game start is Monday, Aug 29 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in I am still accepting/reconfirming more players until then. <3 | ||
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On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? | ||
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On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb This shoud actually read "this game" at the start, phoneposting is phoneposting | ||
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Yeah, well i was prodding Vivax but since i mistyped the post already went to waste. | ||
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Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? | ||
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Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^ | ||
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On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote: He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote: It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look 1) since when, and why? 2) when ever have you cared about this? | ||
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There is none but if someone asks you if you're town you either say "yes" or "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?". I mean in my opinion those are the only reasonable answers to the question as town, no? | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:17 deconduo wrote: I mean maybe the sentiment didn't come across clearly enough - but yes my response was b) "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?" just phrased differently okay. | ||
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you don't buy what? Who, me? If you are referring to me, yes i did, there is none. It doesn't make sense to me. If all you want people to know is that you want to look town, that is literally counter productive, because if I think about what mafia want on day 1 its to look town. Its a contradiction in of itself. you are correct here. | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote: Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia This player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:29 Jockmcplop wrote: EBWOP this was your question that he didn't answer rayn: He said he answered it kind of sarcastically (i think?). I don't know if he's telling the truth or not, could be, could be that not. | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote: Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:38 Vivax wrote: I like how you're already weighing my alignment when I didn't post yet I still roll scum extraordinarily rarely, thankfully But I'm reformed in some aspects xD I'm not sure where this is coming from when i am definitely not, in fact i said the opposite since i fucked up my own post. | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:45 Dandel Ion wrote: if his phone was so smart it wouldn't have made that typo so i'm on HF's side on this prescient matter dont blame my phone it was all me who was not smart and stupid instead. | ||
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you can tell me where if you fell that way | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote: Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list: 100% confirmed town: Holyflare deconduo Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel) Undecided: Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi Chezinu: Chezinu can you explain these a bit further aside from vivax? | ||
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i really dont get what youre saying i am fairly sure i should even get it. | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:56 Vivax wrote: How do you know this? Don't make me get Blazinghand I kinda want to lynch you, Koshi and deconbuo because if you all end up being mafia it would be hilarious :D :D :D | ||
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Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same. Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15. | ||
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This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. Sounds exactly like mafia!rayn anyone? | ||
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Now deconduo claims you should not "trust" this "meta" because the games are so old. I don't care if they are old or yesterday. Noone i know from mafia has EVER played "more townie" game as town before than after. You tend to learn, you don't tend to degrade, yet apparently it seems to be the fact here in case deconduo was town. I don't think he is defending himself against the accusation in the right manner, but instead using "but it's so long ago" as an excuse for his non-scumhunting behaviour. Come page 2 he has three reads. HF and Rels on scummy side, because "they posted then didn't post". First of all i don't think this is a good metric considering that aside from me HF is the most active player ever on this forum as mafia. Basically this just feels like he's trying to draw attention to people who are "lurking". Yet later on he says that people don't even need to be doing shit at the moment because there is still so much left in the dayphase. So are people mafia for not doing stuff or is it okay to not do stuff? You can't have it both ways. On August 30 2022 21:58 deconduo wrote: Jock is probably town. Active, asking good questions, not pocketing This is the only close thing to a real read. There is "not pocketing" though??? Pocketing who? Like i don't even know what this means and it seems made up. It is completely irrational imo. Then he does claim this: On August 31 2022 04:43 deconduo wrote: Overall almost everyone seems pretty townie so far. I've got Rayn and MZ in my 'interesting' group - but that could just be cos they've both had a go at me. Not convinced they've done anything actually scummy but it can be hard to distance myself from a bit of tunneling and look at the situation critically. I'll do review of them tomorrow i think. Looking forward to what Matt has to say I have everyone as town (except for Rels for not posting), and rayn + MZ in "interesting" whatever that means. Everyone else is townie. Also rayn + MZ could be town because i might be a bit tunneled. So, what gives? If you compare this narrative of deconduo's "what is townie" (and also what he has done in the past as townie -- like how he acts as town), into how he acts this game, it doesn't even make any sense from town perspective. | ||
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On August 31 2022 05:19 Koshi wrote: I don't disagree with what you wrote. BUT What if rayn is actually just really busy and therefore only gave lazy reads? Your case depends a lot on, rayn pretends to be busy and is skating by to survive day 1? Come on dude what are you doing? This guy genuinely claims that i have been discussing setup which only means he doesn't have a cle what he's talking about and you don't disagree?? | ||
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every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads Show me a single post where i ever do this in this game please. | ||
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every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads I don't know what game theory means, maybe Mattchew can shed some light on it? I had to say i disagree with Koshi's conclusion's since i do, i don't have time to argue with stupid people about YOU TOWNREAD THIS GUY BUT THEN YOU ALSO TOWNREAD HIS SCUMREADS!!! Which was going to happen anyways in case i didn't do that and apparently the people who are supposed to cut that kinda shit of are not gonna do it. | ||
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On August 31 2022 07:16 Koshi wrote: Why are you working 2.5 jobs? That's hard. yes. i need money to buy us a house and other things. | ||
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So you think deconduo is town? If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets. Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market. | ||
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On August 31 2022 07:26 Koshi wrote: If deco was really engaged and good in his previous 3 towngames, I am ok with voting him off based on his performance this game. Because this game the reads are pretty shallow and quick drawn. Mafia that can't fake real reads and just quickly calls people town/mafia based on little or thread sentiment. I dont know if he was good or not. What i do know is that when he posts he scumhunts / gives reads as town, not so as mafia: town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=Deconduo town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=deconduo mafia - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/237920-world-at-war-2-mafia?user=deconduo I don't believe people's habits change in 5 or even 10 years as he claims. | ||
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On August 31 2022 07:31 Holyflare wrote: I think this game looks way more like Gaiden than the mafia one lol? huh i would say that's the least similar... | ||
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On August 31 2022 04:43 deconduo wrote: Overall almost everyone seems pretty townie so far. I've got Rayn and MZ in my 'interesting' group - but that could just be cos they've both had a go at me. Not convinced they've done anything actually scummy but it can be hard to distance myself from a bit of tunneling and look at the situation critically. I'll do review of them tomorrow i think. Looking forward to what Matt has to say Like, at this time i havent been posting much anything for almost a day. Yet deconduo doesn't have any questions or anything to say about either of us. He just said my case on him is townish (yet i am still in interesting category). MZ has been under pressure from many people, yet he has nothing to say about this. Instead he wants to hear from Mattchew??? | ||
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On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote: I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least. Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why. Did you already decide who nitpicked on that or not? Because i know who did and i also know who didn't care while saying they would. | ||
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deconduo's joke list post is better than Jock's quote-every-post posts, because both move the game forwards?? Then wait for who nitpicks on deconduo's post (like a... threat?), well i did, nothing happened in Tubesock's world. | ||
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That's exactly what i was saying though. | ||
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On August 31 2022 08:41 Rels wrote: No? you said it was a "Vivax probe" post: Then I just read your big post where you elaborated further, but that was after Jock's post If I was to explain your reasonning to HF, it would be "it was a trap", not "would be good if the mafia RB didn't RB" I don't really think you're getting where i am at for this, but i am right and you are wrong if you think Jock is mafia for this. So please read further. | ||
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On August 31 2022 08:52 Mattchew wrote: i'll bite because ive been trying very hard to not get a big head and think that my first read is guarenteed correct and then confirmation bias every post you made (although your cocky mafia!ryan response was just so so scummy to me) + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is none but if someone asks you if you're town you either say "yes" or "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?". I mean in my opinion those are the only reasonable answers to the question as town, no? + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: One general thing. I would like if everyone also placed their votes into the game thread as well when they do vote. I am going to have very hard time following the voting thread as well especially near the deadlines this week since i am at work, and it's not once or twice i dont have all the votes correctly because people dont post them here also (i find voting threads idiotic and confusing and just host's way to have less work). before you gave reads basically all your posts were branched off of this or questions that werent going to really lead anywhere You don't read properly or you are mafia or you are just an asshole if you claim that first three of those are what you described them to be. | ||
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On August 31 2022 09:02 Holyflare wrote: Why would you take a modkill because someone read your posts in a conf biased way? You keep dropping idiot OR mafia choices and then taking the path that leads you to think Mattchew is just an idiot. Why float "or mafia" if you don't even believe it yourself? because yeah, i dont believe he is mafia, sadly. | ||
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i also have to be at work in 7 hours and i just spent the last 2 hours doing nothing pretty much and it makes me annoyed. | ||
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Quick question though, has there been any claims since HF's "i will protect Koshi"? | ||
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- Holyflare makes a point. If he believes in that point why does his vote never move? Looking from the post HF is absolutely certain that makes Rels mafia, he continues posting to the thread for an hour, talking about Tubesock???? - Probably the only good point Rels made in the game so far. I don't get this thought process from HF at all: I think it's a townie way to shut down a potential future wagon on Koshi. Doesn't mean anything for MZ or Koshi's points on MZ though (although it kinda implies you think Koshi's points are weird or have no merit which I disagree with). Oh wait you mean it's supposed to imply MZ was townie last time and not that Koshi being weird makes Koshi townie??? Ah, yeah, seems I misread. I retract my townie points on you then :D [...]Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc). This is just simply super weird. The underlined is exactly what i said. So i get townie points for townreading Koshi for his case (i said his thought process seems legit). I don't understand what i said about MZ should change on his read on me. Then he says rayn "wasn't defending Koshi" which is already a very weird way to put it because there is nothing to "defend" there. Then i lose my townpoints because i wasn't saying Koshi is being weird??? Then this thing ends. Like... just that's it, apparently rayn in HF's mind townread Koshi for no reason and didn't get townpoints for his read after all, so HF just doesn't care. I dunno, Rels didn't seem to quite manage to explain this properly. But look at those quotes about the situation, how does the whole string of quotes make sense as thought process? Other than that though, Rels doesn't look very good. Some of his "rantish" posts about getting lynched as town D1 because he doesn't play well on D1 seem genuine but yeah, there is not much substance in his posts and HF's and Dandel's stuff makes sense. I know Rels brushes this off by "dude he just quoted my every post" and if you just glance at it that's how it looks, but there is this: On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote: [...] The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake. That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man. This is pretty much how i felt at that point. Come night 1 there is also this post where he contributes. The reads pretty much start with this: Assuming MZ is town, one of Dandel / Tube is pretty likely to be scum if my remembering of the vote pattern is correct. They were at the right place to create a second town wagon and have an easy EOD1 just letting the rest happen. Will take the time tonight to reread how everthing went. "Assuming this person is this alignment then this is true because _______" is a very shitty way to start progressing reads and Rels should be good enough to not do that as town because he can't POSSIBLY know MZ's alignment FOR SURE if he is town. Yet he has already created a narrative on which players to question. I think Rels is fairly likely to be mafia. Speaking a bit more of HF his best post was that Tubesock should be lynch D2. Tubesock is also very likely mafia: On August 31 2022 13:15 Tubesock wrote: my vote preference is Rels, MZ, Vivax, Chezinu. Then he votes for Deconduo instead. Doesn't even fucking matter what alignment's Rels and MZ are this behaviour 99% sure comes from mafia. Meapak made probably the best post in the game here: On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating. Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels. Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. Vivax probably mafia too based on his play (or rather no real play). I don't have anything useful to say about other people. | ||
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I still don't really get your thought process. 1) yeah i did that, although i didn't "defend" him in any way. It was one of the first pages of the game -- it shouldn't make MZ anything. 2) The problem i have here is that if youre telling the truth i would expect town!HF to get into discussion with me about it, that's what this is pretty much about. Since what i know from you, that's what you usually do. 3) I don't know what this means or how it has anything to do with anything? I don't think MZ is mafia. But at least we agree that Tubesock is mafia, that's good for now. | ||
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Actually i tend to explain my town reads way more in detail when i am mafia because people like words and it's easy to get townread that way. | ||
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On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote: Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it. The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently. The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels. Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF? | ||
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On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote: Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah. Vivax, you need to start playing please. ##Vote Vivax You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481): On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote: Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it. Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off. Then you say this (#543): On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote: I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel. Then Koshi (#622): On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote: Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on. If he is still shitty on N2/D3. Kill him. Atm he is active enough to leave him alone. After this post you said this (#772): On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote: creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum So you definitely parroted Koshi's point on vivax for D1, now you say "he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah". I don't really believe you believe what you said during D1 if you have now done kind of complete 180 on, like right after D2 start. Calling vig on him is very easy as mafia because noone in their right mind should think there is town vig in a game with "not-normal" player number, 4 mafia is too much and with three mafia vig is too powerful. | ||
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On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote: I‘ll just assume 3 mafia 180ing on MZ It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now. Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax. Vivax posts: On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote: I think Chez and Slam are town HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE Nothing‘s changed from D1 I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope Did I forget anyone? Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around. Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax???? | ||
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On September 02 2022 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF? Actually this is a stupid question by me. Vivax and Cake, why are you / were you originally voting for Rels at the start of the day? | ||
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On September 02 2022 22:06 Chezinu wrote: Oh yeah, I never told you guys, but people in Real Life found Lucca Gallo videos funny, so I was making some of them for two audiences. Are you saying we are not real life people?? | ||
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On September 02 2022 22:42 Mattchew wrote: I have just been hit with a cold feeling that mafia are completely controlling this game. So many frail players to pick off if the mafia team is competent they could be coasting to a win How is this possible if i am mafia and i am not even doing anything in your opinion? | ||
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On August 31 2022 13:01 Mattchew wrote: man i do not like either of mz or rels. rels made a really good point about rayn that has me super questioning my read on him, his emotional manipulation would be HELLA bitch made if he was mafia doing that. the only person i like on the Rels train is koshi and the only person i like on the MZ train is HF (but he may be pocketing me TBD) Here he thinks both Rels and MZ are mafia. Okay. Then he says what Rels says about me makes him super questioning his scumread on me. That's his last post Day 1. On September 01 2022 07:09 Mattchew wrote: Reading up on the past 20ish pages, felt to me like we had 3 town wagons and that the people moving votes around towards the end were more likely town then mafia. This opinion is completely based in the fact that i think mz is town. If i am correct, it would have been incredibly easy for mafia to hide votes scattered amongst dec mz rels. The only person heavily posting at the end of day that i didnt like was slam. Slam why are you being so lazy Then this happens on N1. BOTH Rels and MZ are now town??? There is no explanation at at all. Nada, otehr than that "people changed votes". Seriously? :D And that is based on MZ being town whoduring D1 was still mafia. And then the same shit that Rels did. I assume MZ is town so that makes it easy to mafia to hide so as people changed votes it means MZ is town. Circular reasoning much? On September 01 2022 08:43 Mattchew wrote: Shooting mz is best Mz is mafia, a. A mafia is ded and the people voting him are probably town cause the guts to stay on that bus is just too great for me to fathom B. Mz is town and while we get significantly less vote logic we atleast dont head into day 2 distracted by how yesterdays lynch and votes and connections are made. But matt, you think mz is town, yes but i am not nearly good or smart enough to think i am absolutely right or that i feel strong enough about my day 1 read to warrant keeping someone that could be an easy mafia tunnel/mafia member alive Then he wants to shoot his townread. It doesn't even make any sense because he hasn't told who is mafia if MZ flips town. On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote: Lazy reads only eon post: Town: koshi rels hf Town but should be vig shot: mz Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam Here again he goes pretty much back to what was like 4 days ago. But MZ and Rels has now gone to town pile because people changed votes and that makes all the wagons town somehow. | ||
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On September 02 2022 23:42 Mattchew wrote: Just saying that first quote you context’d wrong. When i said i didnt like them it was referring to that i didnt like the lynch on them Okay that makes more sense. But can i still interpret it as i want regardless of the explanation and also call you mafia for doing jack shit about the lynch late D1? I mean you're doing exactly that to me. | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least). | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time. You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up. | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:57 CopCake wrote: How are we going to solve the game if only the people I acuse need to answer? At least i am going to look at who is answering who. I think all questions asked from you should be answered. Unless they are pointless, in which case the person should make a case why it's pointless to ask that. Because mafia usually asks useless questions. So don't be so self-defeatist, at least i am watching this thing and looking closely on the people who let MZ go for any reason d1 -> d2. | ||
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How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else. - Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread) - There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels - Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from - Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time. | ||
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On September 03 2022 06:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Think about it, they have done exactly one thing this game which is tunnel me, same with dandel tunneling rels. People write it off as bad town play but it's such an easy excuse for scum. You mean Cake tunneling you or Dandel tunneling Rels? Or both? Because i think Dandel is tunneling for the right reasons and Cake is not. You seem to be believing that both of them are scum because they tunnel, am i correct? | ||
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On September 03 2022 06:57 Tubesock wrote: I don't time to pull the quotes now but basically I was waffling on how scummy I htought him throwing out an accusation and then a post or so later "oh here it checks out ok, oopsies nevermind". It looked like trying to manufacture progression. But then I was waffling and thinking I've seen town people do that type of thing before. And really Decon wasn't doing anything so I really didn't care who died between the 3. (MZ, Rels, or Decon) So you waffled on Rels as per your words, why not MZ? | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:04 Tubesock wrote: I wouldn't have gone to MZ. After D1 I started reading MZ as town. Now he's pretty solidly town. I am pretty sure that's not what you did, because you said you didn't. Like here: On August 31 2022 13:15 Tubesock wrote: my vote preference is Rels, MZ, Vivax, Chezinu. | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:26 Tubesock wrote: I can't post them now, but they start with the above. And just look at MZ's last like 5 probably are applicable as well. But they start from N1, which does not excuse you of what you did before that (D1)... | ||
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You have already decided to vote for deconduo like a half an hour ago, so how is this a reason "i didn't vote for MZ"? | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:38 Tubesock wrote: I don't think I understand what you're even really asking. 1) I vote Rels 1.5)MZ is a wagon 2)Slam starts Shenannies and goes to Decon 3)I go Decon At that point if the shenany wagon decided to go to MZ I don't think I would have. I would have gone back to Rels. For whatever reason I think MZ is mafia still at the beginning of night. I reread and think more and then I understand that mafia just wouldn't gain anything by defending my switch. I don't know or care about what you would do "in case". As it doesn't really matter. What i do know is that you had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 and deconduo was not a scumread of yours at that point. Then you vote for deconduo OVER your scumreads Rels and MZ. The only explanation for this you give is based on AFTER you placed your vote on deconduo. I dont buy it. | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:42 Tubesock wrote: Although I'm very suspicious of HF but I mean that's everygame until like D4. Why are you suspicious of HF? | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. What does this mean? | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube. I am curious how do you view Tube atm? | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels. But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something. I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez. Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another. I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it. My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with. I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen. I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD. Tube never voted for you? If you are town and Rels is mafia why is that a bad switch again? If you are town and Rels is town why is that a bad switch again? Except that Tube should vote for you or Rels in his mind.... | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched. and noone is giving any fucks about it aside from me and HF. | ||
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On September 03 2022 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: On a not-so-side-note, here is some food for thought: How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else. - Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread) - There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels - Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from - Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time. again how is this guy town ?????????????? | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: and noone is giving any fucks about it aside from me and HF. dude you need to help me out here, it's getting annoying all over again.. :/ | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:39 Vivax wrote: Rayn minmaxed for physique Probably carries a machete while driving, yes a hunting rifle | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This post is literally why I stopped to question my read. I'm just trying to figure out the logic for why tf scum tube does this unless it's to save scum rels. And even then that's just a terrible play objectively speaking. Are you saying mafia can get away with anything just because "too bad to be scum" or what? | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:44 Vivax wrote: I even have a friend who looks like Floki, but he's been trapped in a Lithuanian BDSM festival camp for almost a year can i go there? address? | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:47 Vivax wrote: Some (most) things are too confidential for the internet okay so dont pm me | ||
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I think tubesock is mafia and i think rels is mafia nad i think vivax is mafia but it's all good, were having a good time. Especially with Vivax | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:54 Holyflare wrote: I honestly don't even know who did what at EoD tbh so probably better that way. dont care, youre still murdering tube right? | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:03 Holyflare wrote: Me either. Copcake has cased MZ twice and keeps trying to make everyone look at her case but is still voting the counterwagon to Tube (rels). Mhhhhmmm, i guess i know why but it doesnt make he town. | ||
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Vivax who should we lynch? I am 100% listening to you. | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:07 Holyflare wrote: No, definitely not. Just worth pointing out for posterity. i agree | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote: Tube is town for D2 cause they ran enough laps in the hamster wheel when placed into it Jock began the game with axle stains and posts and is now mia I can see point on Jock, but Tube???? No. Have you read his eod1? | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:16 Holyflare wrote: Think Vivax is probably just mafia lol i actually am starting to think the other way around.. | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:16 Vivax wrote: The unwritten rule of mafia is that you don't lynch mafia that tries unless you're a dick what if i am a dick as i am? | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:18 Vivax wrote: That's fine on TL but on other sites you will feel like you're slaughtering innocent children that's why i only slaughter TL newbies. | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:24 Vivax wrote: Vivax-rage ranking: 1. Marv 2. Yamato 3. Holyflare 4. rayn 5. Koshi i definitely rank above HF and so does koshi. i will do over yamato even possibly but that's up to you. | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:26 Vivax wrote: rsoultin quite high too, deserves the same spot as Artanis coincidentally On September 03 2022 09:25 Vivax wrote: Artanis gets spot 3 actually, add 1 rank and place HF at 4 You dont know much do you? Those two are the most lovely couple i have met pretty much. Rsoultin can be abrasive on internet, Artanis fuck no. | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:39 Vivax wrote: No, I just get my dopamine kicks here But if anyone existed that would be on my weirdness level? Could give it a shot if I got to know them a little Otherwise I've had one relationship in my teens and since then I haven't bothered And I could tell more but it would make me sound super conceited Let's just say I didn't accept people as quickly as they'd have liked me to Fine. Just dont lash it out on on people who dont deserve it. Lets talk mafia shall we? | ||
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On September 03 2022 09:53 Vivax wrote: That's kinda the dilemma of empathy though, when you are forced to disappoint and avoidance is the only escape for you if you value your own choices but don't like to disappoint I don't think you have met the right people/person if you need to do that. If your only escape is disappoint and avoidance, why do you like to be anything for that person? | ||
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On September 03 2022 10:02 Holyflare wrote: Is this a Vivax therapy session? :D Honoured to be on your list, though I don't think I'm as annoying as I used to be. definitely not. | ||
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On September 03 2022 10:27 Vivax wrote: It's not therapy cause it won't change what I'm like and it doesn't cause me any troubles, except being nonstandard maybe I'll change my mind when I don't feel like I'm watching the world go to hell Dude, why do you do that to yourself? Like is there no other chance? Why do you feel like youre watching the world go to hell? | ||
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On September 03 2022 10:41 Mattchew wrote: yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game. this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler + On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch. rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second What do you mean as mafia!rels hammering town over town? | ||
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On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote: i am here so we agree that tubesock is mafia. talk to me about your other scumreads? cake and slam. Why? | ||
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On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote: when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon??? how does that make sense? | ||
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On September 03 2022 11:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions. Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's. Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two? | ||
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On September 03 2022 11:06 Mattchew wrote: what does he gain is what im asking. he coulda just left his vote where it was and decon is still dead yes and he could do what he did an decon was dead. so what gives? like if MZ and decon (obviously) are town, then mafia Rels doesnt give a fuck where he puts his vote, no? | ||
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On September 03 2022 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I mean we're also talking about a dude who called for a vigi shot on his top townread. Did he? We can see. Matt? | ||
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On September 04 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Tubesock (6): Holyflare, Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Mattchew (1): Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake Vivax (0): Dandel Ion (0): Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop With 6 votes, Tubesock is lynched! This is actually quite interesting. In case i live i will talk more about this. | ||
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On September 04 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Tubesock (6): Holyflare, Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Mattchew (1): Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake Vivax (0): Dandel Ion (0): Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop With 6 votes, Tubesock is lynched! Regarding this. Rels' alignment is quite a key here. If Rels is mafia, i don't believe people who voted for Rels at any point after the case against Tubesock was presented are mafia because the case was definitely very good and that should ALWAYS make a player who did what Tube did mafia. Yeah in this scenario i would just say the mafia are found within people who voted for Tubesock, most likely. If Rels is town here, it gets more difficult. There are definitely townies that didn't believe Tubesock case over Rels'. I would say at this point mafia votes are split with the remaining mafia. One could be Cake or Jock, however there is the weird wagon on Mattchew for ????? I'd check that out, how it happened and how it ended. I don't really see Cake being mafia with Rels or Mattchew. She'd have so many options, and voting Tube would make her look better anyways in case even one of those two are scum. Cake can definitely be mafia if both Rels and Matt are town. However it's too late i think to just flip Rels and see what happens (to confirm something even if he flips town) because i believe we have only one mislynch left here barring medic save. asdjklasdhasjfh And fuck i am too late thankfully i am alive lol. | ||
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On September 04 2022 03:08 Holyflare wrote: Copcake is 99% mafia How did you come to this conclusion? If you are correct here i don't know who the other mafia even could be... | ||
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On September 05 2022 03:16 Vivax wrote: Oh nvm it was mattchew, not Rels. Had a memory poop there But I trust Chez to be the overlord of this place *mgggrhghl* I mean like Cake calls Tubesock "like 70% 80% town" which i agree is at least bad. If she's mafia she knowss Tubesock is going to flip town. Other option of lynch at this point would be her mafia buddy Rels (assuming Rels, Cake, HF). This in itself is stupid already. Then what happens after the flip. She gets into a huge fight with Holyflare. So your and Chez' conclusion is that Cake is now bussing BOTH of her teammates with basically absolutely no reason when mafia is apparently doing quite well in this game???? How does this even make any sense? | ||
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I have to see how this whole Rels -> Mattchew -> Rels went. It's almost 10 pm though and i have to get up at 4:30am so that'll have to wait until tomorrow. Thankfully i have morning shitf at my main job so i have more time during the evenings. Last week was shit. | ||
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On September 05 2022 21:29 Rels wrote: But yeah I can't shake that horrible gut feeling that this game is just going too smoothly ForU? | ||
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On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote: I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days??? What's a big enough derail if not that? | ||
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On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote: I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion? D3 is still young so there is plenty of time. | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:08 Mattchew wrote: Rayn why arent you playing with rels more, hes apparently the entire reason your here Because I haven't really had time to play AT ALL this game. And D2 the Tubesock case was something where the person should flip mafia almost 100% of the time, so there was no need for me to do anything else with my time than push that (if you would call it a push even). | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:15 CopCake wrote: I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town. Do you know who are your town reads and who are not though? Because i wouldn't be "pretty sure" of who i think is town. | ||
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On September 04 2022 04:23 Mattchew wrote: Everyone is sus, except chez and holyflare Since you seem to be here, why do you think this? Especially when there is a quite weird post from Chezinu late D2. | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:29 Vivax wrote: I'm assuming HF gives zero shits about the game, that's quite townie unfortunately i agree | ||
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On September 04 2022 01:46 Chezinu wrote: Vivax, Tubesock, Meapak_ziphh voting to save Tubesock. Lol you kidding me Lucca Gallo? | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:31 Vivax wrote: Well not giving a shit on D1 is the better town play and mostly for the memes, but when it gets hard you should start playing I am going to solve this game on D3 though | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am going to solve this game on D3 though assuming townies play!!!! | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:40 Vivax wrote: I mean, Chezinu has a shot at being mafia. I just know the Rels wagon was all town and if Chezinu is mafia he did the flippity-flop between Rels and Tube. Ah yes i see that from your perspective. Alright let's talk, i assume you are town for the next 24 hours. Let's figure this shit out. | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:04 Rels wrote: Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it? I don't think that's how it went at all? D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now Your filter is quite short so yeah, i have read it. Talk to me if you're town. I don't know why you did that shit HF was talking D1 about if you're town, i don't really even know who you think is mafia, i think your case on Cake is quite OMGUS. | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:56 Chezinu wrote: I would agree with Mattchew that people misinterpreted my post. which post? | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually it was not HF apparently lol. Who said Rels voted for some person he can't read but let the other people be because he can't read them???? Raise your hand and always town for that. I cant find it, have i been ridiculously dumb since D1 because this is about him voting for Slam on D1.... | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:22 Mattchew wrote: No fucking clue Also holyflare has been my top town and im in his fucking pocket and idk man his posting just feels so townie and im probably bad but i gotta go with it. Chez doesnt have to so shit this game yet still has participated in his chez way so hes probably town Maybe HF is just town if he... is town? :D I don't get this about Chez, he has gotten more participating since the beginning, but it is not too unlike he participates as mafia either, in his own way. Basically he always participates in his own way regardless of alignment. | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:39 Mattchew wrote: This is probably fair, and a portion of my read is certainly how i like when chez is in the game because he brings a unique style and substance. I could be getting lured into a chez mafia win but i def dont think hes the lynch today atleast I agree, today is most likely between Rels and Cake. I like HF, you and surprisingly Vivax. Slam's prolly mafia too, regardless of Rels / Cake flip. I don't think Rels and Cake are mafia together, because Cake has been forgetting she could also try to lynch MZ instead of Rels for like every day.... MZ... I dont know early on i though he was town but now i don't really know any more. Fading into surviving if he is mafia tbh. Jock is just afk, which is just annoying. Can't tell, i though he was town when he was posting. Chezinu is a wildcard, could see him being mafia, probably not with Cake because he voted for her D1. If i had to guess right now i would say Rels, Slam, MZ/Jock. | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:43 Mattchew wrote: Cause i still think mz is town day 1 votes make no sense to me for rels being mafia. So far weve had 3 realistic lynch candidates, decon, mz, rels, tube and me. If they are all town as i suspect, mafia has had it incredibly easy dispersing votes, getting on (or even leading) wagons quickly and not having to hop off. Do you see a team existing of rels and MZ? I guess i just answered you :D | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:43 Mattchew wrote: Cause i still think mz is town day 1 votes make no sense to me for rels being mafia. So far weve had 3 realistic lynch candidates, decon, mz, rels, tube and me. If they are all town as i suspect, mafia has had it incredibly easy dispersing votes, getting on (or even leading) wagons quickly and not having to hop off. Do you see a team existing of rels and MZ? You are assuming townies were very sporadic and moving from place to another like... panicking(?) i dont know what is the right word for that CFD'ish EoD1. Why does it make it impossible there were 2 mafia wagons if townies still did that? If you get what i mean. | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:56 Rels wrote: I can't talk much unfortunately until tonight. Best I can do is sometimes reading my my phone and answering quickly. But youre also, like, not responding to my posts so ... Yesterday your scumread was based on objectivally wrong things that I corrected, and I think you ignored it. You also didn't reply to my earlier question on copcake. So ... Why is cake case omgus? I think at least 2 points I've made are things you also have said (tube 80%town, voting me over mz now). Also you said earlier that you liked cake case on me, but her case is like 95% about mz, with an unflipped association thrown at the end?? Okay not really omgus, i just think you are taking the points some people said during D2 and using them because youre on the chopping block and Cake is the only other option for you now. Your case on her is about: - MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2) - She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start????????? - TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2) If this is your answer to my concerns about you: On September 03 2022 11:47 Rels wrote: That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post: So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that. Then you have definitely not answered them. The whole post is to show that Vivax made reads XYZ - you called him mafia after that, then he made the same reads again (again with no explanation) and you called him town for it. | ||
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Your case on her is about: - MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2) - She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start????????? - TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2) I am not even saying it is the worst case but it looks quite preconceived when you didn't give a shit about that earlier on in the game. | ||
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On September 06 2022 00:19 Rels wrote: "afaik it didn't matter to you on D2" Demonstrably false. Please read my d2 filter I did. | ||
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On September 06 2022 00:20 Rels wrote: Also, I don't think anyone else made the first point in my case, so you saying I'm parroting people is also wrong No you have not parroted other people after Koshi on the "read" on Vivax. | ||
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On September 06 2022 00:59 Chezinu wrote: Oh wow, I though of the Slam + Jock too but didn't say it. If that was the case, I would throw in Vivax. Sorry It could be but i promised not to call Vivax mafia for 24 hours so... | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:05 Chezinu wrote: Mattchew, do you know that I am town cause you are mafia? Is this the opposite Chezinu rule? :O | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm not sure I understand your question. I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF. Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong. Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works. You entertained that Dandel was either very right or very wrong (he basically said rels is mafia and that's it lol). You also entertained he could be mislynched easily because he was on many people's lynch list. You didn't entertain a bluehunt scenario. So based on this: Dandel was on several people's scum lists. In my mind dandel either gets killed because he was very right or very wrong. Why does Dandel get killed if he is very wrong in your mind? | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: if he's very wrong, dandel gets killed to help drive a lynch on rels, since he was screaming from the top of the tower that rels was scum. If rels is town it just helps the mislynch go a bit smoother. I am trying to understand this properly... i mean from both pov. but i dont think youre representing both of them? :D | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you basically just said rels is town right? ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck. But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day? | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah now you see why I'm changing my mind lol. Also koshi's reads were a nice warm fuzzy to help make changing my mind easier. Of course if rels is scum it means I completely fucked the D1 lynch with the help of slam. I still don't understand why you think mafia would kill Dandel for being wrong in your mind, because if Rels is town Dandel is based on his posts every single day +1 vote on a townie!Rels? Why does mafia do that? There is a case on Rels already and he has been on chopping block every day so far, what tells mafia he is NOT the day after? | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:37 CopCake wrote: There is only one real world and that world says I am town. Why Slam and not someone else? o_O Why not Jock as you have questioned? why not both? | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:40 Vivax wrote: I mean, Chezinu has a shot at being mafia. I just know the Rels wagon was all town and if Chezinu is mafia he did the flippity-flop between Rels and Tube. Vote timings in #1646 votecount summary suggest hedging the vote from Rels and matt, so I think those are lock-S You should probably have a pretty good clue on who's mafia since you have extra information other townies don't have, can you use it please? | ||
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On September 06 2022 02:46 Vivax wrote: I don't care atm. I know we roast Rels and that's it. I agree to this for now. To be honest i am a bit scared of you because you still haven't tunneled either me or HF at all. | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:03 Vivax wrote: I mean, I just realized what happened, kinda. People using alts like that and outside info are disgusting cheaters I just read your filter, last pages to be exact. You can't call me a cheater for that. | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:23 Alakaslam wrote: Which is why our egos fight the possibility. Read Dandel's filter. I am leaning toward killed because he was right and rely on slam and MZ ego. MZ is town. ##Rels What makes MZ town even if Rels is mafia? | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:28 Alakaslam wrote: Not Rels? I will do it I am down for either Okay go for it, we're doing it already with vivax | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:30 Alakaslam wrote: If Rels is scum, then MZ and I were catastrophically wrong (embarrassingly wrong) so we are likely to unreasonably defend Rels despite overwhelming evidence that he should be lynched. Why do you say you and MZ and not only you? How can you speak for him? | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:38 Alakaslam wrote: So the obvious conclusion from that is CC is town most obvious but i am only going for the real 100%obvious. mafia can call me out for having those reads,. | ||
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On September 06 2022 03:41 Vivax wrote: The guy I'm voting. Ran around sniping with alts she actually died laughing in the other room with this. | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:09 Holyflare wrote: I would vote rels today tbh. I think he just jumps on whatever comes up and perpetuates rhetoric. Coincidentally just happens to be cop after I voted her. He's not playing constructively to build townies up. Can you this time remember there is a voting thread? | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree, today is most likely between Rels and Cake. I like HF, you and surprisingly Vivax. Slam's prolly mafia too, regardless of Rels / Cake flip. I don't think Rels and Cake are mafia together, because Cake has been forgetting she could also try to lynch MZ instead of Rels for like every day.... MZ... I dont know early on i though he was town but now i don't really know any more. Fading into surviving if he is mafia tbh. Jock is just afk, which is just annoying. Can't tell, i though he was town when he was posting. Chezinu is a wildcard, could see him being mafia, probably not with Cake because he voted for her D1. If i had to guess right now i would say Rels, | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:18 Holyflare wrote: Idfk I think most likely mattchew (him calling me super townie is really weird) or slam. Possibly still Cop. Do cop and rels make sense together? Not really but it is what it is. I wanna say MZ not thinking about blue sniping makes him largely more townie. you think rels matt slam? or cake? | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:23 Holyflare wrote: Jock is very likely just town, ignore him. i agree to this tbh | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:28 Holyflare wrote: For something specific? Not really. I liked that he called me town for not giving a shit. Largely accurate (I'm just stressed out of my mind IRL with a bunch of big life events happening at the same time) and I think his page 11 of filter is pretty good at solving into the rels wagon (regarding Chezinu etc). Just kinda skimmed the rest but fine calling him townie. yes he didn't know there is exactly 3 mafia, i didn't read that either until a while ago. you can consider me for whatever you want to but i think it makes vivax 100% town 100% of the time as BH would say. | ||
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On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote: I‘ll just assume 3 mafia 180ing on MZ It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:31 Holyflare wrote: Oh link that please. I had the exact opposite thought when he pointed out 3 mafia at the start of the game. i guess it's the same post lol | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:32 Alakaslam wrote: If I am town and Rels is mafia MZ is probably town are you thouhg? | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:49 Holyflare wrote: I didn't know how much the lack of functionality of the site really got in the way of playing though. I miss vote counts and pinging someone and the little red thing at the top telling me when there's a new post. puff poff now you're quite being a dick on TL ppl. | ||
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On September 06 2022 04:56 Holyflare wrote: If you enjoy using it more power to you. It's not being a dick to have a preference for automation and convenience. Just nice quality of life things that mean I can just focus on the game quicker. The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:01 Chezinu wrote: Looks like almost everyone is voting for Rels today. yes | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:02 Holyflare wrote: I've been active enough then why are you complaining? | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:02 Vivax wrote: And if I had a say, rayn + cop should be millionaires i agree, i put lottery this week | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:06 CopCake wrote: I just hope that HF finds a job. Are you looking for a job HF? | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:22 Chezinu wrote: I trollchecked Mattchew and he came back as Parity Cop unless he is mafia cause red/blue blindness. whois your other check? | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:23 Mattchew wrote: I did not check anyone i have not softclaimed cop and did not intend to do not do anything until this is solved. | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:24 Vivax wrote: Jock is the cop ok and he peacef put while sitting on a park bench. if this is true then you are 100% mafia. | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:22 Chezinu wrote: I trollchecked Mattchew and he came back as Parity Cop unless he is mafia cause red/blue blindness. follow up pls | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:27 Vivax wrote: It‘s just the only possible explanatiob for why nobody is claiming checks except Chezinu | ||
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On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote: The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town. What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off I'm quite sure you did out yourself though. I think you're not being quite reasonable here. | ||
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On September 07 2022 14:17 Vivax wrote: just. got home I‘m BAKED and ALIVE and we lynched a SCUM and FIRE and MAYHEM and wow Vovax I think this is the best post of all time, at least this game. I love you Vivax <3 | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:15 Vivax wrote: Dandel kill could have been from doc claim btw (which cop and me echoed), not just the Rels read I‘m reading there‘s a doc from this? There is definitely a doc or JK based on purely this no-kill. Claiming mafia no-killed is quite bs. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: 100 bucks says HF claims he was roleblockes He probably was also shot then tbh | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:37 Holyflare wrote: Chezinu/Slam/Cop needs to be looked into imo. Gross but probably contains 2. I don't think Cake is mafia as what i said regarding Rels. Please look and tell me if you feel otherwise, i am open to a lot of things right now, i'd like to have done more shit here but i can't. I am thinking Chezinu claimed green at some point and i considered it legit hahaha. Slam can defs be mafia. I haven't read any filters, just followed along when i can so.... If Slam is mafia why does Rels go vote Slam like that D1? The basis of your original case on Rels? | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:42 Holyflare wrote: I don't remember any EoD1 because I didn't read it so maybe I'll go look back at it. I think I remember MZ writing some words about why Rels was town for it or something so probably a good starting point. I guess you have the 180 view of Cake's view of Rels than i do. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:41 Mattchew wrote: i think i won the game let's hear this i am VT | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:48 Mattchew wrote: yeah i saved rayn last night and this does what? | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: hf should have a check though? if you saved me | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Parity cop Tubesock N1 Mattchew N2 - same Copcake N3 - different This should have been really obvious given how I 180'd my read on Matt after N2. And I'm getting a strong suspicion slam is the final scum. okay, now i have to think lol ^ | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:01 Vivax wrote: Like, EoD 1 this game slam‘s tone was off when he was so sure matt was town ^you think matt and slam are mafia or what? | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:57 CopCake wrote: TOWN IS GOING TO LOSE because you listen to a vocal person and do not follow the FACTS of the game. I think the facts dictate you're mafia. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:06 Vivax wrote: How did I imply matt? I think therr‘s good chance for either GF or framer and miller I want to frustrownread cop there is no framer, miller is possible ofc, as gf | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:10 CopCake wrote: This is so bullshit if I ended up to be the unaware miller so let it be it If you end up town who is mafia? | ||
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MZ claims parity cop, cake is mafia HF is allegedly cleared by matt If cake is lynched and mafia, one mafia left. There is Slam/Chezinu/Vivax left. I guess we can lose, we have to hit there right. If Cake is town and not miller then lynch MZ. Same situation, but i think at this point we need to believe MZ claim 100% of the time. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:24 Holyflare wrote: I have 0 idea how I'm cleared btw lol but I'll take it dont worry about it | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:27 Mattchew wrote: i am v dumb, thought rels was town. please do not clear HF off me.. clear mz instead .......... | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Just assume I'm town and it's pretty solved? Cop is just doing the same things I accused her for yesterday but to MZ instead lol. Your fakeclaim was pretty flawed and stupid so i am considering all options pardon me. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote: My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew. If you are VT how do you know you have been blocked by Mattchew? | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are VT how do you know you have been blocked by Mattchew? | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:47 Alakaslam wrote: Shit wait so Matt is doc or JK blaaagh if he is JK that really changes shit matt is uncc'd doc/jk and mz is unccd paritycop | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:50 Holyflare wrote: Because he said I was confirmed town and the only way I'd ever be confirmed is if my claim was true (parity cop that was RBd). but you can't be parity cop if MZ is parity cop 100% | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:51 Alakaslam wrote: He has been making mistakes left and right and has said so specifically regarding you. i dont make mistakes fuck you. this is my game i will win it now | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: but you can't be parity cop if MZ is parity cop 100% simply 0% chande youre a parity cop if MZ is one too. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote: My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew. | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:00 Holyflare wrote: Again, what's the concept you're struggling to understand? Why would Mattchew think I was confirmed town otherwise? I dont care what Mattchew thinks. I know you are calling yourself VT and saying you were blocked BY MATTCHEW... You can't possibly know that. Fite me. | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:02 Alakaslam wrote: So in other words he doesn't anymore, and the reason was that you claimed blue and he believed it as he is new to the village and hasn't heard you crying wolf yet are you claiming mafia or what? | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:10 Holyflare wrote: Still a dumb accusation and vote when Cop is basically a red check and you dunno whether Matt is JK or doc yet. Unless you really are mafia and know :D me? | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:14 Holyflare wrote: Yes. Your argument is worth absolutely 0 before Matt has confirmed whether he's actually JK or doc. okay, if matt claims doc i take back my shit and go cry in my my corner | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:18 Alakaslam wrote: Well not me, but it seems if I try to prove otherwise I will actually prove the false instead :D but are you mafia with holyflare? :O :O :O | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:25 Mattchew wrote: yeah i take back my HF clearing. still think hes town, but thought he was blue getting rb'd I would like to know what this is about. Matt? | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:21 Holyflare wrote: Also btw. Mattchew was the most obvious blue in the game and he basically outed himself last night. If I can pick that up as town then I sure as hell would have as mafia lol. wifom | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:25 Holyflare wrote: Not wifom he outed himself talking to me lol okay show me where? | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:28 Alakaslam wrote: I am blue/red colorblind and see the same thing when I see either (in forum mafia) are you blue or red? | ||
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On September 08 2022 05:28 Holyflare wrote: He asked if my claim was legit after I switched to being RBd and then asked me to clarify again in a really blue way like he was either planning to CC or out himself. Regardless, the asking me to clarify after I said I was RBd at least pays a bit extra credence to him being a JK that thought I was legit after I said what he did. But how do you know you were rb'd? | ||
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MZ is parity cop, who has Cake as different. Holyflare claims he knows he has been rb'd, but he is VT apparently. Mafia roleblocker? Idk HF is mafia 100% of the time atm i think. HF can't know as VT if he is roleblocked or not. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:00 Holyflare wrote: The only way you keep saying this when you know that Mattchew being doc discredits all of it is if you are mafia and actually got your shot stopped by him I think. Doesn't really make sense that you keep pushing this so hard any other way. ok | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:10 Holyflare wrote: You keep asking me and I keep quoting the same post again and again. unless you're re-claiming. are you? | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:19 Chezinu wrote: If that was the case, it would be a piece of cake. It would be grand slam. nice | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:22 Holyflare wrote: The case on cop about baiting mafia to out themselves? It was another bait but I think it worked successfully. Reached the conclusion Cake was mafia without even needing the check. I think HF is mafia. I don't think the night shit makes any sense, even as VT. Also, he knows he has been blocked by Mattchew as per his words. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So I'm about to fly and I haven't been able to read the thread thoroughly but has mattchew clarified whether he is a Jail Keeper or a doctor? Because if he's a jail keeper, this actually makes a decent amount of sense. I dont know but Mattchew already said this: which made me believe that HF was jailed at some point. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:27 Holyflare wrote: So eager to potentially implicate yourself tbh. i would love to have the 1v1 with a mafia dude so go on!! You might even win because i dont have too much time ^_^ | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:37 Holyflare wrote: IF YOU BELIEVE THIS WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME BELIEVING IT LOL If you are VT you dont know if you are rb'd or not what the fuck is so hard to understand for you in that????????????????? mafia. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:40 Holyflare wrote: If you can think "this post could mean mattchew rbd hf n1" but can't equivocate that with me maybe thinking that was the case too (as a VT theorising whether my claim was good or bad) then I'll just laugh at you for the rest of my mafia career. You claimed both VT and rb'd. You are mafia. READ! | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:40 Chezinu wrote: You don't get notified this game. Now, if you are cop and don't get response back, then you will know. if you are a vT you dont fucking know if you are rb'd or not.......... | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:45 Vivax wrote: Is that a sure thing? I'm voting HF either way. Like, cop/HF doesn't seem too unlikely from the way they interacted at night and then just kinda stumbled into the day 100% thing | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote: My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:48 Holyflare wrote: Dude, for real. You're just rambling. Quote my posts, outline your case and wait for Mattchew to respond. It's getting a bit tedious. I am almost sure he said he jailed you. lemme see | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:54 Holyflare wrote: This tracks. I should know, I'm an excellent tracker. I am not sure if i even want to do shit and if this is your "contribution" then we can fuck off | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:53 Holyflare wrote: If mattchew is a JK who didn't ever save me then plz eliminate rayn tomorrow 11/10 times. fu | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:59 Holyflare wrote: I contributed, I found two mafia. If you can't handle being wrong when you didn't want to listen to actual evidence and re-evaluate then that's on you. Don't blame me for you not reading my actual words or understanding what I'm saying, that's insanely rude. I have voted mafia more than you, go figure. | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:02 Holyflare wrote: We've both voted one mafia, not sure how that works out. but you said you voted two? i did vote rels before you, if you wanna compare dicks. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:59 Holyflare wrote: I contributed, I found two mafia. If you can't handle being wrong when you didn't want to listen to actual evidence and re-evaluate then that's on you. Don't blame me for you not reading my actual words or understanding what I'm saying, that's insanely rude. whose the other mafia you found? | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:07 Holyflare wrote: I found (important distinction). You can't tell me I haven't contributed because you're angry with yourself that your case fell flat on its face. I agree, it's not my case that you have not contributed. I'm clarifying that I did contribute. It's not a dick measuring contest, that's a strawman on your part. If you did case and vote for mafia then I'm happy for you but it's rude to say I haven't contributed when I have been trying to get people to see Cop as mafia for a long while. Nah, you said you found two mafia, who is the second one? Where is the evidence, that's the case. I don't care about the case on Cop, you said you found TWO MAFIA and you havent presented the other one. I want our last game together to go smoothly. You just have to admit you're wrong from time to time and got overzealous instead of hurling insults at the person you were wrong about. That'd be a nice way to end at least. Okay. I wont be annoying, but i also wont be giving you leeway for shit reasons, make your case for NOT being mafia, okay? | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:19 Holyflare wrote: Think it's also INSANELY convoluted for me to concoct that whole parity into rb into not rb maybe into call out my partner strategy as mafia when it's really just on brand for me to do as town and +ev vs huge -ev as mafia? I suppose you could argue I'd bait out blue claims but I think it should have been obvious why you shouldn't claim blue at night? At least, I thought the people in the game left would be intelligent enough to recognise that. I just cant shake it you know you were rb if you are vt? And there are two other claims... | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:34 Holyflare wrote: I am not blue and I made that clear at the start of the day lol. which is why i find it all more confusing, you call cake mafia because of a narrative you found out when blue but you are actually not blue?!?!?!? | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I think Cop's preference for voting Rels over MZ at most times in the game when MZ was her preferred wagon and I can't really remember Cop singling out why Rels over most people is kinda telling. I also think she semi slipped d1 in the Rels/me fight parroting Rels' argument of "as mafia Rels would never go aggro against me knowing I'd fight back". It says to me that she didn't think of: 1) Worlds where Rels and I were mafia together (and even now she's left that out of her pushes on me) 2) Worlds where I'm mafia and Rels was town (because TMI) 3) Worlds where Rels and I were both town. She simply picked the correct explanation that I was town and defended Rels with his own bs argument. this? | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:40 Vivax wrote: What if we ignore all role info and just lynch people playing like scum? who would that be? | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:41 CopCake wrote: When I flip miller, promise me to kill HF with the power of thousand suns. why would we kill HF if you flip miller? | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:46 Holyflare wrote: What's this got to do with me being blue? This is about stuff she posted d1 that makes sense as TMI posts (I've pointed it out before). When Rels and I were fighting, Rels came up with the excuse "I'd never pick a fight with HF as mafia, it doesn't make sense" and then copcake picked up the same reasoning (and stopped scum reading rels I BELIEVE(???)) using Rels' own reasoning. I think it's quite likely that mafia partners inherently copy their partner's words and thoughts subconsciously like that. I think it was a convenient excuse to stop scum reading Rels AND I think it was TMI because cop just assumed that I was town straight off the bat to come to that conclusion in the first place. doesnt matter i made up my mind already | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:56 Holyflare wrote: Roles people would have to be as dumb as bricks to out themselves. Although Mattchew did kinda out himself at night at least :D But like people have said to you repeatedly, I do that shit as town ALL THE TIME. It's my MO, my bread and butter. So, why this time is it anti town and mafia and not just anti town and me being town? It's bad because you leave room for wiggling. | ||
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On September 08 2022 07:59 Holyflare wrote: :shrug: I enjoy it and that's what's most important to me. But you call people outing "dumb as bricks"? For real man? :D | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 08 2022 07:56 Holyflare wrote: Roles people would have to be as dumb as bricks to out themselves. [/QUOTE] | ||
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On September 08 2022 08:01 Holyflare wrote: Anyone in this game can still be mafia but the important thing is only whether they are or not and I'm not. no not anyone can | ||
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On September 08 2022 08:20 Holyflare wrote: And separate your point of view here and put yourself in a town HF's shoes. What do I do in that circumstance? It is actually nice to read this you turn absolutely everything like it's in your advantage, it's amazing. :p | ||
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On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote: The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town. What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off I'm quite sure you did out yourself though. This is like fucking scummiest shit ever yet you are able to turn like the other person is mafia what the fuck even?? | ||
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On September 10 2022 00:05 Vivax wrote: Sorry bro I don't have a 10 page filter and launched a crusade on Rels Some things don't change No you have 21 page filter, i don't know what that has to do with anything? The crusade on Rels was launched on D1, only Tubesock kinda hindered it. Why don't you want to vote for a person who got red checked and it's not lylo? | ||
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On September 10 2022 05:59 Holyflare wrote: Oh just realised they could have actually vigged me lol right. Mattchew saved me twice. Super wp. Also broken doctor being able to target the same person consecutively. how are you saved twice? | ||
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On September 10 2022 06:25 Holyflare wrote: Mattchew saved me 3 nights in a row and there's not a chance they didn't try and use vig shot in that time I get you were probably saved but twice? | ||
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On September 10 2022 06:25 Holyflare wrote: Mattchew saved me 3 nights in a row and there's not a chance they didn't try and use vig shot in that time This is also night 4 and he saved me N3 so no three saves for you man :D | ||
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On September 10 2022 06:59 Mattchew wrote: There was literally 0 doubt to what i said. I meant that the night dandel died i probably saved you, i have also posted twice my exact saves If i was mafia i would always have the vigi shoot N1, not that it matters in terms of HF, but in terms of what mafia would / could do. Cake is tricky though.. She could shoot later. But definitely assume mafia shot with vigi. | ||
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On September 10 2022 05:59 Holyflare wrote: Oh just realised they could have actually vigged me lol right. Mattchew saved me twice. Super wp. Tell me how this is possible? | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:09 Chezinu wrote: Vivax already explained and basically echoed my same thought process. so you both voted for a guy who was like 80% chance of being protected and therefore cleared over a another who was cop checked red and like 90% mafia? that's your story? | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:18 Holyflare wrote: I believed Mattchew lied about saving you and saved me every single night. So I got saved this cycle and presumably cycle 1/2 when I've assumed they're most likely to use their vig shot. But he actually saved you so I'm making the assumption still they vigged me one of the nights still. Okay and yes, most likely they did. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is saying he voted for HF because of what Vivax said, but that cannot apply because claims and revelations. Or if it is just that, then it doesn't make any sense, he is just blaming someone else. After claims and shit happened it definitely doesn't make any sense to NOT vote for Cake, and Chezinu's reasoning seems to be "because Vivax did". He's even referring to Vivax' "case" that cannot be after D4 because there is no case anymore there. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:24 Chezinu wrote: Dear Mafia, Shoot this guy! Thanks, Your favorite tour guide. Please do, i appreciate that! | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is saying he voted for HF because of what Vivax said, but that cannot apply because claims and revelations. Or if it is just that, then it doesn't make any sense, he is just blaming someone else. After claims and shit happened it definitely doesn't make any sense to NOT vote for Cake, and Chezinu's reasoning seems to be "because Vivax did" Or didn'tu. Huh? Coincidence? | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:33 Chezinu wrote: Ugh, rayn wants me to actually type it out. You see when you vote off the main wagon, you can lure mafia for information. That could be a valid reason, but then there is also the chance to add some drama to a game that could end with 3 mafia lynches in a row. Do you know how many tours we can go on if we keep the killer around? It's business. If you know who the killer is, you could kept said killer around til there are a few fellow non killera around. This way there are more tours and more loot for the survivors. + Show Spoiler + Seroously? Your asking Chez to act like a town at night when mafia can strike and not when he is up for lynch? My main problem to be honest is that you think you are gonna get killed (or anyone is gonna get killed) instead of the two claimed blue roles. It doesn't make any sense. What information did you get from voting off main wagon? If you don't get any, what's to accomplish voting there? | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:39 Chezinu wrote: Oh! So you are saying that you won't get kill because mafia always kills blues over greens? I have publicly ordered your death my mafia. I have followers beyond the town. Do you not fear the death? + Show Spoiler + To be honest, I don't fear it either. Just know, you may not be able to troll tomorrow. See exhibit Koshi. What are you saying? That you vote for me if a blue role dies? I don't have any kills so i wouldn't know what has happened before or what happens after. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:47 Chezinu wrote: Being a lynch suspect is safety from the mafia Night kills. But seriously, the fact that no blues have died screams I'm town. I've been red/blue blind for years. When mafia, blue sniping is fun. I agree and that also works for Vivax in my opinion. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:52 Vivax wrote: Fingers crossed I‘m superscum and that may or be not be true I think it is slam though. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:53 Vivax wrote: Superdrunk applies in all cases because I have to be proud of my country in that regard Who needs milk when you have beer but you said superscum. i might be more or less drunk here also ^^ | ||
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On September 10 2022 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am working for one as my second job so it shouldn't be a problem. I mean one with literally with the knives and shit. | ||
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On September 10 2022 08:02 Chezinu wrote: Oh wait never Mafias. He can live now. Ignore that last order. I told you it is Slam | ||
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On September 10 2022 08:04 Chezinu wrote: Do you this game is a piece of cake and we are gonna win it with a grand slam? For Rels? But but... I <3s Slam :D :D: D | ||
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On September 10 2022 08:58 Vivax wrote: Like a lion, or Spacey Random flash-in from a killem with kindness song at the current location Maybe killem with kindness exists? House of cards was better with Spacey imho House of cards was better with Spacey imho agreed | ||
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On September 11 2022 04:12 Alakaslam wrote: HF there is a world where others carried shots and you are mafia. The simplest explanation is really that neither of us is mafia. | ||
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On September 11 2022 23:15 Holyflare wrote: Mafia knows there's a jailkeeper or doctor in the game. Since I claimed blue that was roleblocked, mafia assume that's what happened (although still very likely they just have a rber anyway) and that there is a JKer. Rayn fits this scenario because he spent the whole beginning of the day saying I'm mafia for knowing I was RBd BUT he wouldn't wait for Mattchew to reveal whether he was doctor or JKer to determine whether his case was actually correct. The only reason i spent time in this "fight" you are referring to, is because YOU YOURSELF literally said you were blocked by Mattchew!!!!! Like you literally did that when he was claiming doctor instead of jailkeeper, even before that. Yet you're accusing me of not waiting what Mattchew has to say??? When Mattchew revealed his doctor (important) was on Rayn, instead of backing down completely Rayn STILL believed his case on me had merit. THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF HE KNOWS IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN HIM THAT WAS SAVED BY A DOCTOR. Thus, it's extremely probable Rayn knew a JKer was in play and tried to preempt Mattchew saying he RBed me and fucked up. This is bullshit where you only make things fit your narrative. Here's how things went: - You claim parity cop with some checks - You claim "jk i was roleblocked" - Noone dies during the night. - Mattchew claims he has probably saved you and/or you and me - You literally make this post when we are arguing: On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote: My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew. So basically you are accusing me that i didn't wait for Mattchew's claim being either doctor or JK when you somehow KNOW you were blocked by Mattchew????? Like even if you are just assuming things and saying them as they were true somehow you treat me in different standards and i am not allowed to assume Mattchew is JK instead of doctor (which i didn't even do -- i was just simply referring to your at the time bullshit claim, regardless of it's right or wrong). Again, you are the only one here who has demonstrated TMI if possible, yet you're accusing me of it. That's bullshit Holyflare. | ||
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On September 12 2022 08:25 Mattchew wrote: I jailed you last night but with a likely mafia rb, i think that means nothing Oh god why? Did you think i am mafia or what?? Do ypu realise there is a very simple reason why i am not mafia? I am never delivering a night kill N3 because of i am mafia i dont know if there is a tracker or not, and being tracked to two places is insta death. Like 95% there is a roleblocker and then that would be me. Also if i am mafia i know one of our shots hasnt gone through, because there is a mafia vigilante so one nk is missing. So there is a doctor or jk. Doctor cant play offensively, and i never assume jk plays offensively because they should not unless there is only one mafia which is not roleblocker. So if rayn is mafia with cake, cake always delivers the night kill on N3. Any player who has ever been mafia with me should attest to that. If you think Cake hasnt shot / didnt shoot even N3 then i am definitely not mafia because that doesnt happen in a game where rayn is also mafia 100%. | ||
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On September 12 2022 10:12 Mattchew wrote: I have already explained my thought process Well next night toure going to protect whoever you think is mafia and if there is no kill we lynch them. | ||
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On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote: combined with ???? self aware partner vote After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez. Like this is the only thing i can see "against" Chezinu. There is a lot more scummy shit on Slam and Vivax, both of them. And this is shitty because it has nothing Chezinu has done. I feel bad even thinking this could be the correct answer. | ||
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On September 12 2022 13:01 Chezinu wrote: Giving Slam innocent this round for helping town by realizing mathematically we should no lynch. That's bullshit you don't no-lynch here. | ||
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On September 02 2022 10:21 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake Tubesock (2): Holyflare, Chezinu Not Voting (7):Jockmcplop, Alakaslam, Rels, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew, Tubesock, Meapak_Ziphh With 3 votes, Rels is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in On September 04 2022 02:12 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Tubesock (5): Holyflare, Rels(4): Dandel Ion, Mattchew (1): Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake Vivax (0): Dandel Ion (0): Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop With 5 votes, Tubesock is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in On September 04 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Tubesock (6): Holyflare, Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Mattchew (1): Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake Vivax (0): Dandel Ion (0): Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop With 6 votes, Tubesock is lynched! Second on Tubesock, switches to Rels and later back to Tubesock. | ||
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On August 31 2022 12:16 Alakaslam wrote: Top read of the game from my perspective currently. So here is where we start where Slam agrees with HF's read. I don't know which read but let's see. HF says: - MZ mafia (bus on Cake?) - Matt town - Tube maybe mafia - Rayn null (town?) The people HF is calling mafia here (even remotely) are MZ, Tube and perhaps Cake. Later Slam does this: On August 31 2022 12:47 Alakaslam wrote: Voted M_Z to be on bandwagon for further pressure and because I do not think Rels is maf then: On September 01 2022 01:44 Alakaslam wrote: Sufficiently that I vote rels then: On September 01 2022 02:25 Alakaslam wrote: Fuckingnhell I am certain now rels is town. Not voting him out of policy. then: On September 01 2022 02:27 Alakaslam wrote: I can get behind Vivax as well. Let's do it then: On September 01 2022 02:31 Alakaslam wrote: BECAUSE HE IS MORE LIKELY THAN RELS OR MZ TO BE MAFIA THOUGH HE PROLLY ISNT then: On September 01 2022 02:31 Alakaslam wrote: I could do decon is there traction? MZ what do you think, Decon? and finally: I don't see any reasoning for any of this, ever. But never he ends up considering any of those "tip top read(s)" HF posted earlier, unless he thinks it's a top notch read to call rayn null or Matt town. Basically from what i get from the first post is that Slam agrees with HF's read on MZ. Then Rels becomes a counter-wagon to MZ, Slam moves there quickly just to get an idea that Rels is 100% town not long after. Then he starts finding a lynch. Never consider Tubesock here (which could be the "good read" HF posted), never considers Cake here, but instead Vivax, and finally he starts a wagon on deconduo WITH the person i can only assume he has agreed is likely mafia from the HF post he agreed with. | ||
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On September 12 2022 13:33 Chezinu wrote: Rayn, any words on my solid case against you? Or are you not frustrated? no and no, idont really care about what you say about me right now. i'm trying to find mafia, you can try to lynch me if you want to. | ||
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On September 12 2022 13:41 Chezinu wrote: Also talked to HF about this long ago. I voted for Mr. Tubs when I couldn't get people like Matthew to vote for Rels. I don't think the voting thread corresponds with that. You comfortably sat on Tubesock when at the time vote was probably tied with Rels, when Rels was at 1 vote and Tubesock 6, THEN you switched to Rels, just to switch back (twice lol) when Rels gathered momentum again and the situation was Rels 4 Tube 5. | ||
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On September 12 2022 14:16 Chezinu wrote: Why do you believe Mattchew's claim? Why should i not believe his claim? | ||
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On September 12 2022 14:29 Chezinu wrote: I'm a reactionary reader and I did not read that part of the thread. I asked for 3 people to summarize claims and only Vivax answered. I wanted at least 3 bc there were 2 mafias at that time. One other would do now. Can you explain it to me like I was 8 years old (lololol). If Mattchew is mafia that means that mafia has not submitted night kills in two nights, either Cake has not shot at all (or they have missed one night) AND they did not kill anyone the night before last night. Just to "confirm" Mattchew as town, which will be unconfirmed if he doesn't die next night. That call would have been made already on either N1 or N2 at latest, and I call that fucking stupid mafia play and i don't think any mafia team is ever that stupid. | ||
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On September 12 2022 14:38 Chezinu wrote: Lolololool Ok, thanks. So, for you it would be: HF vs Vivax? I <3 Slams Dont put words in my mouth. I think it's you or Slam, i don't know how you are confirmed town. | ||
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On September 13 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Alakaslam Going out before deadline so unlikely to be around. Are you sure you're out? I am gonna be here if it's needed but if youre going then i am going to sleep before work. | ||
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On September 13 2022 06:08 Holyflare wrote: If Rayn is mafia then this is on you guys for not interacting with me when I thought he was mafia. Pretty much burnt that bridge imo. If you think i am mafia just say so. I am probably gonna get lynched anyways because Vivax and Chezinu are going to vote for me and one of them is in other one's pocket so hard it's not even funny. It's kinda hilarious though when noone has anything to say in why i am mafia and when someone has i have assumedly reasonably answered them because there has been no follow up. Vivax hasn't said shit about why i am mafia, Chezinu says i am frustrated, well guess what, i am always frustrated at points in a mafia game, every single game pretty much. At least i think i have been doing fine with what time i have had to participate, especially since i have been even saved once in the game. I guess this could have been easier in case we could have lynched Rels D1. | ||
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On September 11 2022 03:00 Mattchew wrote: Im actually the JK, my jailings are the same n1 hf, n2 hf, n3 rayn On September 12 2022 08:25 Mattchew wrote: I jailed you last night but with a likely mafia rb, i think that means nothing So n1 HF, n2 HF, n3 rayn, n4 rayn. | ||
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Holyflare will not send in a night kill himself when Rels is alive, like ever. There is a night kill missing before N3 most likely because Cake is a vigilante. That's why Holyflare is town. I will not send night kill on N3 because Cake has shot, and if i am mafia i don't know if there is a tracker or not, and i will never in million years take a chance of getting tracked, like even if the night kill doesn't go through it's infinitely better, and anyone who has ever played mafia with me should know that's my MO as mafia. The only argument to make is that either: - Cake has not shot at all, and that's never the case in case either me or HF is mafia. - There is no mafia roleblocker at all, but if that's the case it makes me mechanically confirmed town because Matt has jailed me n4 and there is a kill. So the only question is, which one of Chezinu and Vivax is mafia and which one is deep in mafia's pocket? | ||
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On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote: I think Chez and Slam are town HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE Nothing‘s changed from D1 I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope Did I forget anyone? I keep going back to this and trying to figure out if this is just very fucking bold scum or incredibly wrong.. | ||
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Vivax why haven't you called either me or HF mafia with some crazy conspiracy theory i think until it has become quite clear we are not? I don't think that fits your town MO and unless i am mistaken it started when you voted HF(?) WHEN Cake had a red check on her!! Wh yare we not able to see the voting thread? | ||
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On September 13 2022 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wh yare we not able to see the voting thread? nvm there must be a glitch for me. I can see it now. Here: On September 09 2022 23:12 Grackaroni wrote: Day Four Vote Count CopCake (5): Holyflare (3): With 5 votes, CopCake is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Friday, Sep 09 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in At this point Cake has already been called to have a different check that Mattchew by MZ. Long ago. | ||
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On September 14 2022 08:36 Holyflare wrote: ##vote no lynch wow, so you actually effectively defeated the only possible way to get Chezinu and Vivax to actually play mafia this game. Like literally the only way to get Chezinu to play was to vote for him and depending on what he says either Vivax has to play and try save him or continue absence and just be mafia, or Chezinu just outs himself. Well done. Like you could have even tried!!! Even in the small span of time look what Chezinu vomited in thread: On September 14 2022 08:35 Chezinu wrote: I'm in between two people. Hoping mafia would kill one. If he genuinely thinks HF is mafia he is insane. If he genuinely thinks someone else than HF is going to die he is insane. This doesn't even make any sense at all for a townie to say this. ONLY mafia benefits from having one less townie alive to decide the final vote, Chezinu is being voted here. Vivax is probably just trolling and doesn't give a shit about the game at all, but for Chezinu to survive he would have to make Vivax mad and try to lynch him (since voting for me effectively does nothing). Instead of looking for who is town and who is mafia, trying to figure out something, he avoids conflict and just stays peacefully in his On September 14 2022 08:59 Chezinu wrote: So you are saying matthew didn't save you from a hit but stop you from killing? And that is why rayn is town and not Mafia RB? What is this bullshit even? I am refusing to believe Chezinu is incapable of understanding what that post says. Then how do you explain Rayn's frustration This is as much mafia tell than saying Chezinu is mafia because one of the first 4 letters of his account is "e", just like Rels and Cake. ...and obsession with Mafia RB? I have not been obsessed with mafia rb, i wonder what thread he is reading. Would Mafia have 2 special roles against town's two blues? Most likely yes, what does this even matter? Is Vivax playing Chezinu's style to stay alive? Doesn't matter anymore, game's over already and mafia wins. Only questions, stupid questions. Nothing that progresses any sort of reasonable thought process anywhere. Not even under pressure can Chezinu make a legitmate argument on anything at all and Chezinu is not stupid. He is just mafia. So holyflare quit and Vivax isn't giving a shit about this game so i guess you guys can keep chatting about starcraft or whatever you want for the rest of the game, i will have other stuff to do on weekend so unless vivax wants to play this day phase i'm just gonna hand the win for mafia and self-vote the next day. Not gonna use a single minute of my time in this game after this phase if this is how people want to play a game of mafia. well played Koshi, MZ and Mattchew, epic two saves and still we managed to lose. Shame on you HF for avoiding responsibility of making people play when you 100% could achieve that. Shame on Vivax for not playing. gg mafia. | ||
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Basically the only way HF is mafia is if Cake has not used her shot. And 99 times out of 100 HF makes mafia vigilante shoot N1 because that's the phase for mafia when the town has least information -> the shot is most likely to go through. HF suspected both Rels and Cake at least N1 if not D1. The other option would be that Mattchew jailed HF who was delivering the night kill. Why does HF deliver the night kill when he is playing pro-town-looking-really-townie game? Hell, even if he doesn't look town he is STILL always a possible, even likely doc/jk protection target. HF will most likely never send a night kill when there is vanilla mafia Rels alive. Like it's just very simple, he is just easily the most likely townie out of us four for anyone who doesn't know other people's alignments... And Chez voted off wagon with me when everyone was on cop. So why do you believe it‘s that clear cut who the last one is if you are town? My read has nothing to do with that. Although that is the dumbest thing a townie has done in this game, not vote for red checked person. And one of you is definitely town so lol. At the very least HF should tinfoil you and the other way around Why? | ||
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On September 14 2022 14:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is also this thing where Chezinu calls red/blue sickness and i am certain he said he thought i am blue at some point before the claims so it makes perfect sense for him to shoot me N3 and not even lie about his read. nah he didn't actually say that. | ||
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On September 19 2022 03:17 Vivax wrote: Thanks rayn for counteracting the obvious at the end I quit the game 4 days before the "end". I know what would have been smart, but idgaf. You can have your island. "good job" | ||
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On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote: Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him. No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result? + Show Spoiler + 4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one [4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ... [4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha [4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that? [....] [4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win [4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty [4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win 4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all [4:33 AM]Rels: yeah [4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show??? [4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄 [4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1 | ||
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On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote: I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway. Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth? | ||
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On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote: What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments? Because it has nothing to do with the player in question has said. Mafia can say anything about anyone. If someone decided you are mafia because of something a flipped mafia has said, would it be fair? There is no way for you to defend against the accusation, regardless of your alignment, and if people think like this smart mafia will fuck you over in a game just for nothing. You can do that, and continue doing that. I mean using someone else's sayings as evidence for someone else being mafia. It's just not reasonable, because it doesn't have anything to do what the person in question has done. Sure you get it right sometimes, but most of the times you don't. And anyways, regardless of if you get it right or wrong on me, i will not participate, then you can win or lose on your own time for me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote: I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again. You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote: combined with ???? self aware partner vote After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez. Pretty much on any other forum this would be a 100% lynch case because it is air tight. Is it though? I think this is a good example of why what you are arguing here is wrong. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2022 13:10 Chezinu wrote: There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend. Youre kidding yourself but that's fine. On September 23 2022 13:16 Chezinu wrote: If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch. Enforced by this. If RAYN didn't do this i would think HF is mafia. Nice solve on a mafia game people <3 Glad i didn't play. | ||
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