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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 31 2022 00:10 GMT
#518
idk i didn't even want to play in the first place and now i want even less.
i also have to be at work in 7 hours and i just spent the last 2 hours doing nothing pretty much and it makes me annoyed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 31 2022 15:05 GMT
#726
Well. I dont simply have any time this week other than friday evening and sunday. It is what it is, so i sm gonna check in 1h before deadline and vote for whoever Koshi is voting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 31 2022 17:06 GMT
#756
##vote Rels
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 20:10 GMT
#989
I've got some time today so i am gonna start reading and let's see where i get.

Quick question though, has there been any claims since HF's "i will protect Koshi"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 21:48 GMT
#991
So there is very weird interaction between Rels and HF at some point during D1. These are the problems i have with it:
- Holyflare makes a point. If he believes in that point why does his vote never move? Looking from the post HF is absolutely certain that makes Rels mafia, he continues posting to the thread for an hour, talking about Tubesock????
- Probably the only good point Rels made in the game so far. I don't get this thought process from HF at all:
I think it's a townie way to shut down a potential future wagon on Koshi.
Doesn't mean anything for MZ or Koshi's points on MZ though (although it kinda implies you think Koshi's points are weird or have no merit which I disagree with).

Oh wait you mean it's supposed to imply MZ was townie last time and not that Koshi being weird makes Koshi townie???

Ah, yeah, seems I misread. I retract my townie points on you then :D

[...]Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc).

This is just simply super weird. The underlined is exactly what i said. So i get townie points for townreading Koshi for his case (i said his thought process seems legit). I don't understand what i said about MZ should change on his read on me. Then he says rayn "wasn't defending Koshi" which is already a very weird way to put it because there is nothing to "defend" there. Then i lose my townpoints because i wasn't saying Koshi is being weird??? Then this thing ends. Like... just that's it, apparently rayn in HF's mind townread Koshi for no reason and didn't get townpoints for his read after all, so HF just doesn't care.

I dunno, Rels didn't seem to quite manage to explain this properly. But look at those quotes about the situation, how does the whole string of quotes make sense as thought process?

Other than that though, Rels doesn't look very good. Some of his "rantish" posts about getting lynched as town D1 because he doesn't play well on D1 seem genuine but yeah, there is not much substance in his posts and HF's and Dandel's stuff makes sense. I know Rels brushes this off by "dude he just quoted my every post" and if you just glance at it that's how it looks, but there is this:
On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
[...]
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.

This is pretty much how i felt at that point. Come night 1 there is also this post where he contributes. The reads pretty much start with this:
Assuming MZ is town, one of Dandel / Tube is pretty likely to be scum if my remembering of the vote pattern is correct. They were at the right place to create a second town wagon and have an easy EOD1 just letting the rest happen. Will take the time tonight to reread how everthing went.

"Assuming this person is this alignment then this is true because _______" is a very shitty way to start progressing reads and Rels should be good enough to not do that as town because he can't POSSIBLY know MZ's alignment FOR SURE if he is town. Yet he has already created a narrative on which players to question. I think Rels is fairly likely to be mafia.

Speaking a bit more of HF his best post was that Tubesock should be lynch D2. Tubesock is also very likely mafia:
On August 31 2022 13:15 Tubesock wrote:
my vote preference is Rels, MZ, Vivax, Chezinu.

Then he votes for Deconduo instead. Doesn't even fucking matter what alignment's Rels and MZ are this behaviour 99% sure comes from mafia.

Meapak made probably the best post in the game here:
On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating.

Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels.

Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels.

Vivax probably mafia too based on his play (or rather no real play).

I don't have anything useful to say about other people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 21:50 GMT
#992
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 22:23 GMT
#994
I am not "trying to scum read" you, i am trying to understand your thought process on that particular instance because it's one of the things that appeared out of place to me. I don't care if you called all the same people mafia than i do because i don't actually KNOW who is mafia especially since you didn't act on your Rels read during D1 which seemed that you quite 100% believe, to me. I know you say you forgot about the vote thread, it could be that, it could be it's not that, there is no way for me to confirm because there is no real evidence on that either way that i can see.

I still don't really get your thought process.
1) yeah i did that, although i didn't "defend" him in any way. It was one of the first pages of the game -- it shouldn't make MZ anything.
2) The problem i have here is that if youre telling the truth i would expect town!HF to get into discussion with me about it, that's what this is pretty much about. Since what i know from you, that's what you usually do.
3) I don't know what this means or how it has anything to do with anything? I don't think MZ is mafia.

But at least we agree that Tubesock is mafia, that's good for now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 22:46 GMT
#998
It's okay. Originally it hit my eye (the last post) because you were somehow enabling Mattchew's 100% incorrect post about me at least subtly, when the first part is all about him not understanding my trap on Vivax (which i do almost every game he is in game and also quite accurately) and painting it as setup discussion and the latter part of me having "no substance town reads" which is what i do every single game as town always, especially when i am on phone.

Actually i tend to explain my town reads way more in detail when i am mafia because people like words and it's easy to get townread that way.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 01 2022 22:47 GMT
#999
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 08:37 GMT
#1063
On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?


Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it.

The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently.

The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels.


Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 08:50 GMT
#1064
On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3.

Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah.
Vivax, you need to start playing please.
##Vote Vivax

You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481):
On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?

If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.

Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market.

Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it.
Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off.


Then you say this (#543):
On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.


Then Koshi (#622):
On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote:
Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on.
If he is still shitty on N2/D3. Kill him.
Atm he is active enough to leave him alone.


After this post you said this (#772):
On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote:
creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end
Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum


So you definitely parroted Koshi's point on vivax for D1, now you say "he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah".

I don't really believe you believe what you said during D1 if you have now done kind of complete 180 on, like right after D2 start. Calling vig on him is very easy as mafia because noone in their right mind should think there is town vig in a game with "not-normal" player number, 4 mafia is too much and with three mafia vig is too powerful.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 09:15 GMT
#1065
Day 1:
On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia

180ing on MZ

It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo

Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now.

Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax.

Vivax posts:
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around.
Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 09:23 GMT
#1066
Vivax can you explain to me why your scumreads are scum and why Rels is town?
The only thing even close to a real read in your filter on them is you supposedly think Tubesock spewed MZ town but that doesn't really work since you 180'd on MZ and think he is mafia again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 09:30 GMT
#1067
On September 02 2022 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?


Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it.

The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently.

The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels.


Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF?

Actually this is a stupid question by me.

Vivax and Cake, why are you / were you originally voting for Rels at the start of the day?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 10:12 GMT
#1068
Well gotta head to work now.
##vote Tubesock
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 13:12 GMT
#1095
On September 02 2022 22:06 Chezinu wrote:
Oh yeah, I never told you guys, but people in Real Life found Lucca Gallo videos funny, so I was making some of them for two audiences.

Are you saying we are not real life people??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 13:14 GMT
#1096
I can confirm Cake, Rels and Slam as real life people so you are lying dear Chezinu!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 13:26 GMT
#1099
Do you think the people who are trying to steal Lucca Gallo Ricci's painting and make him a potato are real life people or possibly unreal life zombies?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 14:16 GMT
#1110
On September 02 2022 22:42 Mattchew wrote:
I have just been hit with a cold feeling that mafia are completely controlling this game. So many frail players to pick off if the mafia team is competent they could be coasting to a win

How is this possible if i am mafia and i am not even doing anything in your opinion?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 02 2022 14:27 GMT
#1112
Ehh actually Mattchew's filter is pretty crappy crap, i just have to figure out if it's town crap or scumcrap but that i can't do at work.
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