EPTOr he somehow already knows he's RB/JK
Or he's 3p/mafia.
I think you all know where I'm at regarding that decision.
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
Or he somehow already knows he's RB/JK Or he's 3p/mafia. I think you all know where I'm at regarding that decision. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 10:05 Eversince wrote: I've skimmed most. The last half a game is like ? For me. Anything relevant with a fast way to get there is great. What was the case on you at? I remember seeing people but can't remember names yet Most of it was that he said he was scum, kus Dandel sent him a role PM. I personally think he is town so wouldn't worry about it, but Jat and HF were the only people who had semi-valid arguments. Oh and since I don't think I clarified, me being in the same QT with Wave was my bad reason for thinking he was town before. I think I have better reasons now. But since I like the bad ones I think he dumbtelled with thinking we had been targeted by GBs ability. Your catch-up posts were mildly amusing, but I find it fun to sometime just say fuck a phase and pick a point to read from that's more recent then go back via filters later. I'm not normal though so use at your own risk. Oh do make sure you check flips though, things get awkward otherwise. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
He seems to be falling in line with thread sentiment a lot without much of his own apparent thought process. His post-sheep work justifying a vote on Wave is unconvincing in particular. His lack of reasoning behind a GB vote is even more frustrating. I see him cite meta reasons at one point, a point of contention that I did not think was a driving factor behind the case on GB. Right now my top 3 scumreads are Shockey, TickTock, and JAT, and the common denominator to me is how they acted around the GB vote. Shockey's voting makes no sense if he's town, and Ticktock/JAT sheeped a bit too willingly for my tastes. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On January 11 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: I still dont like Dandel, his ability did nothing for the thread other than get a townie lynched. His ability had absolutely nothing to do with the lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On January 11 2021 14:46 Tictock wrote: I too do not know why this was so hard, but you also thought my in thread vote on HF was somehow real so he got you too. I do not check the voting thread every time someone votes in thread... come on. On January 11 2021 15:29 Tictock wrote: To that end, I haven't fully decided what I think of Dandel's role and how he used it. On the one hand he removed himself from the game and caused a fair bit of confusion. Both of which are fairly anti-town... Actually if he is town is it that bad to remove self as a target for a day? As a scum ability it actually would be pretty OP to force a mislynch. The other hand is that it was ultimately all fluff and the game is now back to as normal as this game will be. So in that sense his ability was a ton of flavor but pretty weak. The flavor was too notch though, besides the continued joke relating my name to TikToc. I was clearly here first and no silly video app should define me. I have also been using Tictock as a username since like 2010 so :p Well, removing yourself from the lynch is one thing. Forcing a mislynch is something different. His ability was at most disruptive. But that is more people fault than Dandels in my opinion. On January 11 2021 16:28 Tictock wrote: I think if Dandel is in fact scum it would make a lot of sense for him to make a scum QT with 2 town and 1 mafia. If Dandel is town or 3P though it would be either just whatever names he picked it straight RNG. I suppose he might RNG as scum too but more likely he tries to plant a teammate. If that is the case Obi is more likely since he was the only one of us to not want to let the game know he was "scum" I mean, I didn't claim it like Wave but literally the first thing I did was hint at it pretty strongly. Someone (might have been wave) already figured out that Dandel did not have to put any scummates in there since he probably could read the qt himself. In essence I do not think all of this makes Dandel mafia at all. We should wait and see what he contributes now that he is back and judge accordingly. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 10:52 Eversince wrote: If two universe exist where is the second game thread? See this is the awkward shit I ment. At least read the host posts geez. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 10 2021 20:22 justanothertownie wrote: I would be interested in that reason right now. The conversion stuff also does not really convince me. The fakenuke on yamato was a decent choice for example. I also really, strongly dislike this line of reasoning. I said exactly why I believe otherwise already, and this reads like a fabricated reason to townread someone that you already know is town. I also believe he doesn't elaborate much on this point. Why is fakenuking me at that point in the game a pro-town move? If anything it sidetracked me at a point in time where I was actually interested in the game. Later he posts this: On January 11 2021 02:12 justanothertownie wrote: I obviously knew my nuke was a dud, which is also why I assume conversion knew that about his. I just didn't want Wave to be able to hide behind a claimed 3p. I also still think we should not lynch Vivax since his claim seemed genuine to me. If we are ever in doubt we can still kill him and if there are actual town KP he also wouldn't be a terrible shot but for now he is not a priority to me. I agree in principle with his reasoning for faking a nuke on Vivax but I disagree with its equivalence to faking a nuke on me. I think JAT obviously had a similar role (maybe a copycat role, even, but that is idle speculation) and used his in a way he believes is pro town, but I do not think that he could really think that Conversion's nuke on me was pro town, especially given that he said it was a bad nuke if it was real. The difference is not that large in effect. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: I still dont like Dandel, his ability did nothing for the thread other than get a townie lynched. I get this but even if Dandel is scum and was untargetable we still had 2 scum to find. This is random blame on Dandel for no reason. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 11:12 Eversince wrote: What I know Dandel switch did little else but confusing. Dandel switch gave me a new role, while my perfectly fine role kept function as normal. I didn't test his new win cons because.. Reasons I hate moving right now.. So throw that bath water out. I'm to far behind to seriously think about things. I'm just sleep soon.. This is one of the more sensable posts I've read this game. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On January 11 2021 17:10 justanothertownie wrote: [/b]I do not check the voting thread every time someone votes in thread... come on. Well, removing yourself from the lynch is one thing. Forcing a mislynch is something different. His ability was at most disruptive. But that is more people fault than Dandels in my opinion. Someone (might have been wave)[b already figured out that Dandel did not have to put any scummates in there since he probably could read the qt himself. In essence I do not think all of this makes Dandel mafia at all. We should wait and see what he contributes now that he is back and judge accordingly. Wait. 'Scum mates' Expressly say what you mean by that. | ||
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Eversince
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justanothertownie
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On January 11 2021 17:04 yamato77 wrote: To explain my thoughts on JAT in more detail: He seems to be falling in line with thread sentiment a lot without much of his own apparent thought process. His post-sheep work justifying a vote on Wave is unconvincing in particular. His lack of reasoning behind a GB vote is even more frustrating. I see him cite meta reasons at one point, a point of contention that I did not think was a driving factor behind the case on GB. Right now my top 3 scumreads are Shockey, TickTock, and JAT, and the common denominator to me is how they acted around the GB vote. Shockey's voting makes no sense if he's town, and Ticktock/JAT sheeped a bit too willingly for my tastes. What do you mean post-sheep? I was the first vote on Wave. It is sad that you forgot how I play that much btw. Very decent posts otherwise. | ||
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Eversince
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On January 11 2021 17:13 yamato77 wrote: I also really, strongly dislike this line of reasoning. I said exactly why I believe otherwise already, and this reads like a fabricated reason to townread someone that you already know is town. I also believe he doesn't elaborate much on this point. Why is fakenuking me at that point in the game a pro-town move? If anything it sidetracked me at a point in time where I was actually interested in the game. Later he posts this: I agree in principle with his reasoning for faking a nuke on Vivax but I disagree with its equivalence to faking a nuke on me. I think JAT obviously had a similar role (maybe a copycat role, even, but that is idle speculation) and used his in a way he believes is pro town, but I do not think that he could really think that Conversion's nuke on me was pro town, especially given that he said it was a bad nuke if it was real. The difference is not that large in effect. It is though. Yamato we both know you sometimes need a little incitement to actually play the game. That is why fake nuking you is a pro town move in my book while actually nuking you would have been terrible. Now this by itself certainly doesn't make conversion town but in a vacuum it is a good thing. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On January 11 2021 17:18 Eversince wrote: [/b]Wait. 'Scum mates' Expressly say what you mean by that. What do you want me to explain exactly? TT was theorising that mafia!Dandel would put another mafia player in the new scum team to "infiltrate" it. Which is obviously unnecessary when Dandel can read it himself perfectly fine. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On January 11 2021 17:22 Eversince wrote: I promise Yam I'll go through your post but I'm about to drop over the dog and promptly drool all over him in a few. Read them. They are really good posts. Echoing a lot of what I already said in this game and then concluding that I am mafia, which is kind of frustrating I have to say, but yamato looks good right now. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 12:50 Alakaslam wrote: I’m sorry man. It has done the same to me. Blue cancelling glasses can help, but it can be over the top too. Sometimes using a laptop or desktop will help with this. Also, it could be hydration. Once we hit out 30s, our thirst sensing faculty degrades so that could be part of it. I’ve already found myself having to force water drinking a little bit to keep up. Weed, ibprofine and caffeine combo finally did the trick. Thanks for the suggestions though I have been meaning to get new glasses soon too. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 16:27 Alakaslam wrote: Hot damn now I want your analysis of that game. I hadn’t even come close to thinking of that. I dunno if I have a good one and that game ended on a sour note so idk how motivated I'd be. I started thinking about how bad is it really to elect a mafia mayor could be if they show face by how they use it a fair while ago. Mayor stuff hasn't come up enough in games I've played for that to be relevant though. My biggest regret that game was not looking into it sooner, but it's telling how fast Rayn had people piling on me when I did dare to suggest it. Tough to play against convincing players like him when many people tend to play like sheep. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 11 2021 16:28 Alakaslam wrote: Yes I’ve been aware and tried to avoid making that joke... It just... presents itself though right? Lol, I think the first time I even noticed was when somebody left a starcraft game by typing "reported you pervert" | ||
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