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ghostofconversion
Profile Joined December 2020
227 Posts
January 11 2021 03:17 GMT
#1101
tocktic is still mafia btw
👻👻👻👻👻👻
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 11 2021 03:27 GMT
#1102
On January 11 2021 11:35 Eversince wrote:
I'm obvious way behind on processing but didn't HF call for that?

Wave only outed one. Obi confirmed later.

So HF pressure worked? We had to wait for it, I'm not even sure what to do with it, but at least it gave us something, anything!, to work with..


Let me be clear
HF had nothing to do with it
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2021 03:42 GMT
#1103
Yeah Wave was planning to claim scum almost since start of day so don't let that get to HF's head or w/e.
Retired.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2021 03:50 GMT
#1104
On January 11 2021 12:14 Tictock wrote:
I think staring at my phone is giving me these migraines, they keep coming back today. Also very likely my poor sleep patterns are contributing.

I’m sorry man. It has done the same to me.

Blue cancelling glasses can help, but it can be over the top too.

Sometimes using a laptop or desktop will help with this.

Also, it could be hydration. Once we hit out 30s, our thirst sensing faculty degrades so that could be part of it. I’ve already found myself having to force water drinking a little bit to keep up.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 11 2021 04:30 GMT
#1105
I think eversince meant did he coerce me into revealing you obi
And the answer to that is no as well
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2021 04:31 GMT
#1106
On January 11 2021 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think eversince meant did he coerce me into revealing you obi
And the answer to that is no as well

As far as I can see this is correct
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 11 2021 04:31 GMT
#1107
On January 11 2021 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 12:14 Tictock wrote:
I think staring at my phone is giving me these migraines, they keep coming back today. Also very likely my poor sleep patterns are contributing.

I’m sorry man. It has done the same to me.

Blue cancelling glasses can help, but it can be over the top too.

Sometimes using a laptop or desktop will help with this.

Also, it could be hydration. Once we hit out 30s, our thirst sensing faculty degrades so that could be part of it. I’ve already found myself having to force water drinking a little bit to keep up.

I run into this daily at work (optometrist).
I could go into more detail elsewhere but the gist of it is eyestrain is very common especially given the amount of time people are spending on devices in pandemic times.

Headaches may be as a result of the eyestrain but it depends on your prescription and other thing. (if I could examine you I would
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2021 04:39 GMT
#1108
On January 11 2021 13:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 11 2021 12:14 Tictock wrote:
I think staring at my phone is giving me these migraines, they keep coming back today. Also very likely my poor sleep patterns are contributing.

I’m sorry man. It has done the same to me.

Blue cancelling glasses can help, but it can be over the top too.

Sometimes using a laptop or desktop will help with this.

Also, it could be hydration. Once we hit out 30s, our thirst sensing faculty degrades so that could be part of it. I’ve already found myself having to force water drinking a little bit to keep up.

I run into this daily at work (optometrist).
I could go into more detail elsewhere but the gist of it is eyestrain is very common especially given the amount of time people are spending on devices in pandemic times.

Headaches may be as a result of the eyestrain but it depends on your prescription and other thing. (if I could examine you I would

Oh

I’m 20/10 left eye and 20/13 right eye. Sucks because I use the right eye a lot more. But the blue cancelling glasses are a bit much when using my phone but they did help.

I live in the desert/LA as well, so dehydration is much more likely to be noticed by me in general. Fun fact: I started having issues not noticing thirst at 28- 2&1/2 years ago.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2021 04:41 GMT
#1109
Iow I don’t have a prescription as my eyes are about as good as can be measured currently in one eye and very close to that in the other.

Unless I’m dumb and that is my prescription
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2021 04:42 GMT
#1110
*in other words, not low
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 05:36 GMT
#1111
On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.


Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.

At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'

Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.

I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.

There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,

I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol


Just to add my interpretation, though Waves description of what happened is accurate.

I read Obis statement more like he thought Wave sucked as mafia and didn't want to play as scum with him, or that he was convinced Wave was going to be lynched so if our "team" turned real we would be a man down. He said as much in another post than what Wave was discussing here.

From the rest of his messages though I see Obi wasn't sure if Dandel's stuff was or was not going to be perminant so that may have been part of it. Idk, I'm going to make a separate post of my thoughts about Dandel essentialy makng the three of us masons for a day.

One more interesting thing though from that QT though, I dropped the idea that I had a way to save Wave from the lynch. Dandel's role for me did say it had something like that, not that I was ever going to use it, but wanted to see what Wave would say. He told me I shouldn't do it.

Take that as you will.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 05:43 GMT
#1112
Idk what made me think this but I am really not a fan of Slam basically being a non entity all game.

By this I mean his only legitimate sounding posts, where he was pushing Dandel were later claimed to be RP and then his vote is somehow stuck on essentially no lynch because he fucked up?

This sounds really suspect to me as it could easily be an excuse to not vote (what is supposed to be towns really power) and hand Wave away a fair chuck of his posts.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 05:46 GMT
#1113
On January 11 2021 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone?
Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.-

Today is very much real. You just have to ignore dandels shennanigans. What is so complicated about this?


I too do not know why this was so hard, but you also thought my in thread vote on HF was somehow real so he got you too.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:08 GMT
#1114
On January 11 2021 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's not obvious to me at all, especially since he's been spouting that
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone?
Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.-


Humm, that is contradictory to what he was saying in QT. Kus in there is seemed worried it was permanent.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:19 GMT
#1115
On January 11 2021 04:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 18:59 Tictock wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:17 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 10 2021 11:02 Tictock wrote:
On January 09 2021 10:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 09 2021 10:11 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2021 10:06 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 09 2021 09:20 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people so convinced dandel is scum?
I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it.

It definitely is all Slam and he hasn't given any reason afaik

The reason is the whole shenanigan with replacing the host looks to me like a scum power

The OP clearly says that roles have no correlation to alignment

Still. What this is causing just looks like scum.

You have to correlate roles to alignment! Are you gonna make scum a parity cop?

I guess you could...

Are you gonna make a townie godfather? Every townie that isn’t also a miller is a godfather!


What makes you think this game has roles like that?

Like which?

For dandels, it’s obvious so I was making a point in reply to Yamato (I think?) saying something about not being able to discern alignments from roles; this was my way of trying to express why I disbelieve it.


Just, from everything I have seen this game has very custom roles hand created for this game.

You brush off a point that the OP says roles don't define alignment by refferancing normal roles designed for certain alignments.

So what does it matter that those roles you listed can't be balanced if they are not in the game? Thus, why are you assuming they are?

Though I suppose this also means my assessment that Dandel is 3P is null as he could be trying to achieve a win con of his as any alignment. I still would rather sort it out when his abilites are not active to avoid that.

Good points, thanks for clarifying.

My point is that I believe you can’t completely separate the uses of a role from it’s alignment.
So, to illustrate why I believe this, I used normal game roles because I don’t know what roles are in this particular game. But Dandel

Is not helping town

Could easily be helping scum

I want him lynched. That line of reasoning.


I whole heatedly agree with the bolded. This is exactly why I chose to help enable Dandel's role N0, because how he used it would be more telling than what it was.

This is also why I wasn't mad at myself for pushing a mafia!Rayn into mayor last game. I should have caught it but I think the way he immediately changed to wanting to lynch who the thread wanted from who he wanted when he suddenly was going to be elected was actually a big scum tell.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:29 GMT
#1116
To that end, I haven't fully decided what I think of Dandel's role and how he used it.

On the one hand he removed himself from the game and caused a fair bit of confusion. Both of which are fairly anti-town... Actually if he is town is it that bad to remove self as a target for a day? As a scum ability it actually would be pretty OP to force a mislynch.

The other hand is that it was ultimately all fluff and the game is now back to as normal as this game will be. So in that sense his ability was a ton of flavor but pretty weak.

The flavor was too notch though, besides the continued joke relating my name to TikToc. I was clearly here first and no silly video app should define me. I have also been using Tictock as a username since like 2010 so :p
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:36 GMT
#1117
On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote Dandel Ion


On January 11 2021 04:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 11 2021 04:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote Dandel Ion

You are aware that the daypost states that we cannot lynch Dandel, yes?


Yes, but why does he count others and not mine?

Who cares? Why do you not want to lynch anyone?


I care? And only other person I’m lynching today is conversion. I’ve already stated it like three-four times, are you reading?


Uhh...

I am pretty sure I was the only person to vote for conversion yesterday, this is laughable hypocritical-ness right here or just straight mafia. Probably mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:38 GMT
#1118
Oh I misread that a bit, but still. Probably mafia.

Thought he said "only person I'm lynching today is conversion" right after voting Dandel. Lol
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:53 GMT
#1119

Once per game, you may channel your Discord moderator powers and PM the host the names of three surviving players. At the end of the phase, any surviving players you have chosen will be placed into a "Discord Sleeper Cell" Quicktopic. This sleeper cell will have access to 1-shot KP, which can be used during any night phase if a majority of sleeper cell members agree on a target. You also secretly have access to this Quicktopic, but you cannot post in it or vote for KP.


Creating QTs might be a theme this game. Cool way to give town KP though.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 11 2021 06:58 GMT
#1120
On January 11 2021 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok so....
We have KP?
Dandel threatened to close our mason QT but I don't see why he can do that, theres nothing in the role PM about it

Do we keep that KP? If so tictock and Obi we have some work to do
Maybe not obi though lol


I assumed he ment Hapa would force him to close the QT if we keep posting, but we can leave it up as a reference as long as nobody tries to abuse it.

It's basically considered out of game communication at this point.
I can take that responsibility.
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