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[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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October 24 2020 22:27 GMT
#3
/in
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 26 2020 03:18 GMT
#18
On October 26 2020 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 26 2020 06:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit grey coming back in here when I have limited time

/in

CANNOT PASS THIS UP PPL. You cannot!

On October 25 2020 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Happy Birthday Grey! ^_^

/in

Dittos, mayhap it was a great celebration with masks of Terminia rather than masks of electrified plastic webbing.

On October 26 2020 04:21 GlowingBear wrote:
This is unusual


On October 25 2020 10:39 Blazinghand wrote:
/OBS



Thou fools, do not let this opportunity pass you by. Even Blazinghand is not safe from my ire regarding this!


My playstyle doesnt match the playerlist's. It would be a bit overwhelming for me lol

You do realize this game will have ridiculous roles right. Their most likely will be multiple mafia teams based on history. your play style will be irrelevant
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 26 2020 15:19 GMT
#23
Trying a new style btw.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 27 2020 00:30 GMT
#34
30 man game
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 27 2020 00:39 GMT
#37
also for everyone

On October 25 2020 05:45 GreYMisT wrote:


Mafia: Objective - Outnumber the town and no third parties with competing win conditions remain. KP for Mafia is 1. The number of Mafia is unknown. The Mafia Do require members to carry out KP.





before it said do not. speculate now for reasons for the change
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 27 2020 03:22 GMT
#40
6 AM [image loading]
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 13:41 GMT
#92
On October 28 2020 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2020 22:21 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 28 2020 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry, i am not calling you stupid Acrofales. I mainly never understand your train of thought and why you do the stuff you do and ask the questions you do, because to me most of the time they seem worthless and i dont understand how you can deduct any alignment indicative things from the answers.

I mean like, you asked me if i am mafia or if i am a third faction. How on earth you think i am giving you any other answer than "no" regardless of my affiliation and how on earth that answer can tell you anything about my alignment? That's why i think the questions are stupid and i dont see a point in answering them. That's the only thing you have interacted with me. I dont genuinely have any reason to "avoid you" regardless of my alignment.

I am basically just going to wait for more people to post, corruption counter is interesting. Especially to see what people want to do with it. It actually CAN tell something about someone's alignment. I mean like i think Dirkzor is town already.

Are you scum?

yes

WHATCHA GONNA DO NOW BIATCHHHHHH??????

We got him
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 13:47 GMT
#94
On October 28 2020 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shit, it took a townie to ask

wait...

You did say sorry though. That is pretty scummy
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 13:50 GMT
#98
It says in the op that stuff happens with corruption. Not necessarily bad stuff the way it's worded makes me think just weird stuff
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 13:52 GMT
#99
On October 28 2020 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2020 22:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 28 2020 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shit, it took a townie to ask

wait...

You did say sorry though. That is pretty scummy

I said sorry for implying i think he is stupid. Because i dont.

Do you know why i think Dirkzor is town?

Because he read the op?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 13:55 GMT
#101
On October 28 2020 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol no, in general mafia is way more likely to read the op than town...

I disagree with that
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:06 GMT
#107
On October 28 2020 22:57 Dirkzor wrote:
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On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:
On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

The TL Mafia Database

The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.

Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.

Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.

If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.


I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties...

Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!!


Is it scummy to not read and understand setup?

I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good.


I found the answer: Its not scummy

I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does...

I find it strange you care so much about this? You think figuring out roles and setup will help solve game. I don't think it will help that much their are probably way to many hidden mechanics to coordinate successfuly. If anything discovering more about the setup will probably just help mafia.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:15 GMT
#117
On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.

Not possible
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:18 GMT
#120
I'm just being realistic. The best bet in these games is the lynch coordinating and plans can be mucked around with to much in these games.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:19 GMT
#121
On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.

Not possible

Okay.

Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)?

What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:21 GMT
#122
I could get behind that the more I think about it
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:28 GMT
#125
On October 28 2020 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads

I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.

Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:36 GMT
#130
On October 28 2020 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:19 iamperfection wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.

Not possible

Okay.

Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)?

What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe.

yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates.

the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever.

I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said.

If you get what i mean.

I get you
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:37 GMT
#131
I wouldn't say it's a super strong town reading but not a bad one.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:41 GMT
#132
On October 28 2020 23:30 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads

I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.

Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town?
yes. Agrees with my gut feeling on him.

I don’t think scum has actually posted yet.

That's a bold claim for no reason.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:49 GMT
#137
On October 28 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm, i actually read on of Dirkzor's posts wrong, he was not really saying he wants the corruption counter to increase. So ditch that town read.

Why does that change your thinking that much though. Isnt it just that he was gunhoe about it it not being that anti town shouldn't matter much
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:53 GMT
#139
Am I retarded or was kitaman in this game?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:57 GMT
#144
I am waiting for people to feed my ideas. I'm much more lazy these days.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:57 GMT
#145
Acro is probably 3p he always is.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 14:59 GMT
#148
On October 28 2020 23:58 Hapahauli wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think iamp is town though.

also it was not shockeyy who replaced kitaman, who was it????


Onegu.

Please remember this post as my immortal contribution to the town.

Hello world.

What a downgrade lul
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:00 GMT
#149
On October 28 2020 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Acro is probably 3p he always is.

Is there any meat around the bones because i kinda thought of the same :D

I was just joking 2 games I had with him he was 3p. His legendary chrono trigger game and some other one I can't remember
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:19 GMT
#153
Did he really just post to post?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:19 GMT
#154
Oh nevermind
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:22 GMT
#156
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:27 GMT
#160
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
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On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?

The book on him is he is slower to react as mafia which is why I needled him for not responding quickly but I would say he usually puts a lot of thought in his posts. They just come out slower as mafia and he loses the story eventually.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:28 GMT
#162
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

It just says something happens I don't think it's that important
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:28 GMT
#163
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:31 GMT
#165
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:33 GMT
#166
On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.

I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:36 GMT
#169
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

Lol your basically saying your a survivor
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 28 2020 15:36 GMT
#170
On October 29 2020 00:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

Oh that's a good point.

I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too

Lemme check the QT. Oh wait.


I mean it's likely that not everyone has even read their role pm yet that was my thinking
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October 28 2020 15:42 GMT
#172
On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.

What no we force him to win with town I will make him
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October 28 2020 15:55 GMT
#177
On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?

He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp
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October 28 2020 15:55 GMT
#178
On October 29 2020 00:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers.

Do you want to go?

I don't really care either way.

From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from.

I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.

I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.

Why? I don't understand.

Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.

I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?

He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp

At least this early that is
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October 28 2020 15:59 GMT
#183
On October 29 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.

What no we force him to win with town I will make him

Okay... lead the way. But color me skeptical that you can force a survivor to do much of anything. I briefly entertained the idea that he's a scummer fake claiming early on to afk all game but it just seems so... lazy. I mean. Maybe? I guess we just don't let him use it as a "get out of lynch free" card.

For starters, @Hapa: you have to visit the TL Database tonight. You don't get to use your Night Actions as I don't trust you.


I wish I could say I was purely a survivor, but my alternate win-con is a good deal more complicated than that. After all, it's a Greymist game.

That all being said, I don't mind visiting the database, but I have a couple of questions:

1) I thought we were playing "resistance" for Database slots.
2) Why do you believe you can force me to do anything, if you freely admit that you can't generally force survivors do to anything?
3) Why do you discount the possibility that my win-con may have something to do with the Database?

Why do you care why he cares ?
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October 28 2020 16:01 GMT
#186
Also one person suggested the resistance shit nobody really got behind it? Misreading thread why?
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October 28 2020 16:14 GMT
#195
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro
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October 28 2020 16:30 GMT
#210
It isn't some sort of gambit to produce discussion is it?
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October 28 2020 16:37 GMT
#215
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting
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October 28 2020 16:40 GMT
#218
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?
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iamperfection
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October 28 2020 16:43 GMT
#221
On October 29 2020 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In other words. I do not believe Hapa has a "secondary win con" as he claims. I dont think he is town. I think he is mafia. Because if he was not mafia he could just scumhunt normally and not say any of that shit, as he would not know who is mafia (if you are 3p it is easy to scumhunt because you dont belong to a mafia team). He is not doing that by any means.

I think Hapa is mafia.

At the very least he must have some sort of traitor mechanic for sure. He could worry about getting shot I guess though but you would think he just play normal and tone it back if he becomes to townish.
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October 28 2020 16:44 GMT
#223
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented
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October 28 2020 16:45 GMT
#226
On October 29 2020 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In other words. I do not believe Hapa has a "secondary win con" as he claims. I dont think he is town. I think he is mafia. Because if he was not mafia he could just scumhunt normally and not say any of that shit, as he would not know who is mafia (if you are 3p it is easy to scumhunt because you dont belong to a mafia team). He is not doing that by any means.

I think Hapa is mafia.

At the very least he must have some sort of traitor mechanic for sure. He could worry about getting shot I guess though but you would think he just play normal and tone it back if he becomes to townish.

would you think 3p hapa would be interested in figuring out mafia or not?

I can't really say. If it's like a survivor he should be somewhat I would think.
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October 28 2020 16:47 GMT
#227
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me
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October 28 2020 16:48 GMT
#228
On October 29 2020 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In other words. I do not believe Hapa has a "secondary win con" as he claims. I dont think he is town. I think he is mafia. Because if he was not mafia he could just scumhunt normally and not say any of that shit, as he would not know who is mafia (if you are 3p it is easy to scumhunt because you dont belong to a mafia team). He is not doing that by any means.

I think Hapa is mafia.

At the very least he must have some sort of traitor mechanic for sure. He could worry about getting shot I guess though but you would think he just play normal and tone it back if he becomes to townish.

would you think 3p hapa would be interested in figuring out mafia or not?

I can't really say. If it's like a survivor he should be somewhat I would think.

But his role could legitimately be very complicated
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October 28 2020 16:50 GMT
#231
On October 29 2020 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In other words. I do not believe Hapa has a "secondary win con" as he claims. I dont think he is town. I think he is mafia. Because if he was not mafia he could just scumhunt normally and not say any of that shit, as he would not know who is mafia (if you are 3p it is easy to scumhunt because you dont belong to a mafia team). He is not doing that by any means.

I think Hapa is mafia.

At the very least he must have some sort of traitor mechanic for sure. He could worry about getting shot I guess though but you would think he just play normal and tone it back if he becomes to townish.

would you think 3p hapa would be interested in figuring out mafia or not?

I can't really say. If it's like a survivor he should be somewhat I would think.

I think he has an ambition to solve the game, even if not town (3p). Idk i dont see it rn.

I agree with that so far
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October 28 2020 16:57 GMT
#235
On October 29 2020 01:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also had a few extra minutes to post, just trying to get a convo going, but you seem like you don’t want a convo. You just attack.

How are you trying to get a conversation you haven't talked about anything but yourself
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October 28 2020 17:11 GMT
#240
On October 29 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:14 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro

I am interested, how do you read me?

I would say town so far. Can't give a strong town read as I have never had those be wrong. But engaged looks like your trying to figure things out.
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October 28 2020 17:13 GMT
#241
On October 29 2020 02:01 Acrofales wrote:
I believe he has some weird 3p wincon. It could perfectly align with town. It could also totally not, and his idea upon reading it was to claim survivor++ so he doesn't have to deal with shit from either team while he egotistically pursues his shit. I agree with grack that claiming 3p as scum in the first few hours is pretty needlessly attention seeking. So straight scum just doesn't seem likely. But claiming if it's a straight "win with town, but extra special win if XXX" seems even more pointless.

TLDR: I believe he's 3p. I don't believe he has any reason to play town-favoured. Other than what town forces him into. So.. for all intents and purposes: survivor.

I haven't yet thought through how this claim would work with a cultist, SK or other definitely anti-town 3p roles. It's probably possible. Especially for something like a cultist. Hell, he's not even lying. He can win with town, as long as all of town is converted into his thralls!

So what's your suggestion ignore him?
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October 28 2020 17:16 GMT
#246
On October 29 2020 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:14 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro

I am interested, how do you read me?

I would say town so far. Can't give a strong town read as I have never had those be wrong. But engaged looks like your trying to figure things out.

I was more thinking into how you actually form a read on me, because i dont actually think "engaged" (unless you have your own way of interpreting how my engaging is engaging) as town suits it.

Oh you mean like a meta analysis no I won't do that day 0 if at all.
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October 28 2020 17:18 GMT
#249
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
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October 28 2020 17:20 GMT
#252
On October 29 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.

last sentence especially, i dont care about who was right and when or if someone is / thinks they are good or not...

I mean why would he lie about being an analytical person. Or at least himself thinking that he is an analytical person
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iamperfection
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October 28 2020 17:23 GMT
#256
On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk why he would lie, people do though, when they are mafia

But he has no reason to lie about that he probably does think that about himself rightly or wrongly
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October 28 2020 17:32 GMT
#261
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?
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iamperfection
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October 28 2020 17:40 GMT
#266
I'm very confused
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October 28 2020 18:50 GMT
#295
On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
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On October 29 2020 03:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Therrre we go, Slam failed the test.


To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way.

That's so much BS
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October 28 2020 19:16 GMT
#305
On October 29 2020 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah yeah whatever. I know you’re town and that’s all I care about for now. Have fun screaming at a wall.


How do you know he's town? The only way you know he's town 100% is if you're mafia :O


The way he addressed my claim makes him town. That is how Town-Rayn acts when he is confronted when an "experienced player" does something that doesn't make sense to him.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:50 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Therrre we go, Slam failed the test.


To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way.

That's so much BS


Absolutely not.

This post:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


and this post:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


Are not congruent.


I thought you were walking back on your claim saying it was a gambit of some kind
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October 28 2020 19:25 GMT
#311
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?
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October 28 2020 19:33 GMT
#319
On October 29 2020 04:30 yamato77 wrote:
I truly did not want to play with rayn and I regret that I am in this game already

Being a little sensitive
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October 28 2020 19:37 GMT
#323
On October 29 2020 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
am i being unreasonable?

No
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October 28 2020 19:38 GMT
#325
On October 29 2020 04:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:30 yamato77 wrote:
I truly did not want to play with rayn and I regret that I am in this game already

Being a little sensitive

I'm not going to play along in a rayn-game. If this turns into one I will just replace. Not worth my time.

I mean he just diagreed with you and you take your ball and go home?
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October 28 2020 19:38 GMT
#326
Disagrees
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October 28 2020 19:46 GMT
#335
On October 29 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn, when you disagree with someone, you tend to do so in a tone that comes across as extremely aggressive and personal.

I don't think you intend it, but that's my experience... both in the last game we played and this one.

You can take it for what it is worth.

it's text you can't have a tone.
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October 28 2020 19:49 GMT
#340
On October 29 2020 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:46 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn, when you disagree with someone, you tend to do so in a tone that comes across as extremely aggressive and personal.

I don't think you intend it, but that's my experience... both in the last game we played and this one.

You can take it for what it is worth.

it's text you can't have a tone.


The history of human literature says otherwise.

That is the last I'll say on the subject.

Someone talk about my goddamn Slam read.

Your third party you are not allowed to make demands
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October 28 2020 19:51 GMT
#343
On October 29 2020 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:46 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn, when you disagree with someone, you tend to do so in a tone that comes across as extremely aggressive and personal.

I don't think you intend it, but that's my experience... both in the last game we played and this one.

You can take it for what it is worth.

it's text you can't have a tone.


The history of human literature says otherwise.

That is the last I'll say on the subject.

Someone talk about my goddamn Slam read.

Yeah but Rayn ain't writing war and peace he's shit posting in a gaming forum
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October 28 2020 19:55 GMT
#345
On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.
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October 28 2020 20:00 GMT
#350
On October 29 2020 04:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:55 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.


What implies that I have a traitor mechanic? I read your post, but I don't get it.

??? You said you can win with town. That implies you can win in other ways. Are you saying you can't win with mafia?
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October 28 2020 20:01 GMT
#354
Yamato pretty sus here.
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October 28 2020 20:02 GMT
#356
On October 29 2020 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do we have these retards in this game tbh??

Well that's a little uncalled for
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October 28 2020 20:05 GMT
#360
On October 29 2020 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:00 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:55 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.


What implies that I have a traitor mechanic? I read your post, but I don't get it.

??? You said you can win with town. That implies you can win in other ways. Are you saying you can't win with mafia?


I mean... if I was mafia (or mafia aligned), I'd never answer that question honestly, but yes, I cannot win with mafia. My 2nd win condition is factionally independent.

In all seriousness, how does it make any sense for me to openly admit or imply that I have a 2nd mafia-favored win-con?

You did so accidentally is what I'm saying.
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October 28 2020 20:07 GMT
#365
Btw if it's revealed that there is more than one mafia team like in the first game of this kill hapa.
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October 28 2020 20:08 GMT
#370
On October 29 2020 05:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:07 iamperfection wrote:
Btw if it's revealed that there is more than one mafia team like in the first game of this kill hapa.


Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.



Yes just going by history it's possible.
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October 28 2020 20:09 GMT
#371
On October 29 2020 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:07 iamperfection wrote:
Btw if it's revealed that there is more than one mafia team like in the first game of this kill hapa.

I think there is a chance there is 2 mafia teams.
3mafia, or 2mafia with 1x3p, or 2x2mafia teams

Well I just don't think there would be room for 3p at that point
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October 28 2020 20:13 GMT
#373
On October 29 2020 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?

Rules are for thee not for me
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October 28 2020 20:24 GMT
#382
On October 29 2020 05:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I am talking. What do you want?

But frankly, I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber. I am not diplomatic enough today to deal with that.

What do you think of yamato's entry post
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October 28 2020 20:35 GMT
#387
On October 29 2020 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why are you good with playing with iamperfection and when we are both grilling you for "same" stuff (as i see it) playing with him is cool as fuck and playing with me at the same time is "I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber.". I mean, we are both calling you mafia at this hour, if your brain works correctly.

Why do you treat me differently than iamp?

He likes me better that's why
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October 28 2020 21:24 GMT
#415
On October 29 2020 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Hapa is mafia for a couple of posts, iamp agrees with me. That's enough i think, yolo.

I don't think I agree
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October 28 2020 21:29 GMT
#423
On October 29 2020 06:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 06:26 yamato77 wrote:
@Shockey

On October 29 2020 05:37 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:53 yamato77 wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:

"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."

So is there more than just town/mafia? :D

Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out.

Why do you think you're a good candidate?


I just am. I have no malintent for our database.

I wish for you to be more forthcoming about your claim here. What do you intend to do if you do go to the database? Why should we trust you?



Just trust me yo. If you're town, you'll trust me. If I'm mafia then Acro's post here becomes more relevant.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 23:06 Acrofales wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean mafia, town, who?

Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info.

So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help!

(obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).


Wat
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October 28 2020 22:17 GMT
#457
Are you losing your mind? These last 2 pages are all over the place
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October 29 2020 00:33 GMT
#472
i find you a very strange fellow alakaslam
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October 29 2020 00:45 GMT
#474
your like a more coherent version of that person
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October 29 2020 01:03 GMT
#476
On October 29 2020 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Did we sort out what’s going on with the TL Mafia Database?

your going and if the counter goes up we kill you deal ?
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October 29 2020 01:11 GMT
#478
i can got too btw if i want to i have to think though
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October 29 2020 01:22 GMT
#480
On October 29 2020 10:15 Hapahauli wrote:
I'd lean towards limiting visits to 1 or 2 people tops, since we don't know if mafia can visit the database. I.e if town sends 3, mafia could hypothetically send 1 person and increase the corruption counter.

your choosing this btw or we kill you

what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause
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October 29 2020 01:23 GMT
#482
On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.

You have to choose a player to target.

what you talking about fool it says it right in the op
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October 29 2020 01:28 GMT
#484
You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.


i did ask though
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October 29 2020 01:33 GMT
#486
On October 29 2020 10:31 Hapahauli wrote:
I specifically asked whether I could look target the Corruption Counter and seek information on it. The response I got was that I must always target a player.

well target a player and choose that
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October 29 2020 01:39 GMT
#488
i think its just saying you have to target a player but the information can be about that player or the setup at large thats how i understand it
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October 29 2020 02:07 GMT
#489
here are my limited reads at this point


1.Iamperfection – confirmed town


2. Hapahauli – absolutely 3p consider killing late game if still alive. I don’t see him making a 3p claim the way he did as scum.

3. Grackaroni - almost as useless as onegu somehow. Null

4. Onegu – useless not reading the thread as I made a joke about him and he didn’t respond can shoot

5. Dirkzor – slightly townish for reasons he was a bit brash early making think town but not a super strong read

6. Acrofales – his posts always scare me but I think he might be town this time- a very weak town read as he somewhat looks like rayn trying to figure things out.

7. ShoCkeyy – I don’t know very confusing. The needing to post to say he was busy but to stick around with small heat was scummy null to slightly scumish

8. Alakaslam - the scum haven’t posted comment struck me as weird but most of his posts I find strange

9. Tictock – vig

10. Koshi – vig.

11. Raynpelikoneet – town large activity, trying to figure things out

12. Yamato77- scumish – hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. The anger seemed real but I think that could come from either alignment so it doesn’t get him any town points
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October 29 2020 03:49 GMT
#496
On October 29 2020 12:35 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 11:07 iamperfection wrote:
here are my limited reads at this point


1.Iamperfection – confirmed town


2. Hapahauli – absolutely 3p consider killing late game if still alive. I don’t see him making a 3p claim the way he did as scum.

3. Grackaroni - almost as useless as onegu somehow. Null

4. Onegu – useless not reading the thread as I made a joke about him and he didn’t respond can shoot

5. Dirkzor – slightly townish for reasons he was a bit brash early making think town but not a super strong read

6. Acrofales – his posts always scare me but I think he might be town this time- a very weak town read as he somewhat looks like rayn trying to figure things out.

7. ShoCkeyy – I don’t know very confusing. The needing to post to say he was busy but to stick around with small heat was scummy null to slightly scumish

8. Alakaslam - the scum haven’t posted comment struck me as weird but most of his posts I find strange

9. Tictock – vig

10. Koshi – vig.

11. Raynpelikoneet – town large activity, trying to figure things out

12. Yamato77- scumish – hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. The anger seemed real but I think that could come from either alignment so it doesn’t get him any town points



Lol me read the thread... Also game just charted and 2 people want me gone even though I am VT currently.

i dont want you gone i just dont care if you die there's a diffrence
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October 29 2020 05:33 GMT
#503
On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.

You have to choose a player to target.


Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post.

i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though.
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October 29 2020 13:36 GMT
#543
Rayn you can replay a cycle and you choose night 0 ????????????????????????????
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October 29 2020 14:41 GMT
#547
Oh I was confused
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October 29 2020 15:55 GMT
#552
On October 30 2020 00:49 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think there are two mafia teams in a mini lmao

There were 2 mafia teams in portal 2 mafia you pleb. It had 13 players instead of 12
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October 29 2020 16:18 GMT
#556
The counter is at 1 anyways everyone could go tonight no?
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October 29 2020 16:42 GMT
#562
On October 30 2020 01:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The counter is definitely going to increase if we all go. We definitely know mafia is going to visit no matter what, it’s in their interest. I prefer sending one or two towns if there’s three mafia. Rayn you said KP doesn’t count as an action for the database right?

I don't know that. How do you know that.
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October 29 2020 16:43 GMT
#563
On October 30 2020 01:41 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
If I had a gun I would shoot Shockey. His posts read as smug and flippant and that's a general scumtell in my book. I no longer really want to send him because he refuses to be more open about much of anything.



If you somehow found one of these on the ground sending it to the proper professionals on lost items (ie. me) would be smarter than using found items. Dont say you werent warned....

Talk about something useful or die
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October 29 2020 19:08 GMT
#582
Yeah shoot onegu or die hapa.
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October 29 2020 19:35 GMT
#590
On October 30 2020 04:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Dirkzor it's true, if it takes 4 people to up the counter, then all 12 of us visiting would make the counter go up to 4 no? So yea I don't think all of us visiting is a viable option either...

thats not what it says

If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.

if more than half then the majority goes it increases more then 1 it says nothing about it being additive
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October 29 2020 19:48 GMT
#596
ticktock's post seem nice but come off as slightly scumish just by word choice stuff like leery and what not come across as not wanting to rock the boat.

I dont feel that strong about it though.
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October 29 2020 19:59 GMT
#601
your ability doesn't sound that good to me dirkzor.

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October 29 2020 20:07 GMT
#606
On October 30 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:
I noticed Onegu jumping on my scumread too. Seems to easy. But you asked me shockey.

iamp: I've tried to be as open as possible. Ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.

i just dont understand why you would claim like that and request protection.


only you get a hint when bascially everyone can get a hint every night if they go to the database?
You need to survive 5 phases why would you volunteer that information?

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October 29 2020 20:42 GMT
#623
playing like a jester onegu
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October 30 2020 01:52 GMT
#629
yeah it seems strange to me as well but im puzzled by it.
Like it just dosent seem very good to me. but it dosent seem scum.... i think
so maybe another 3p.
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October 30 2020 01:52 GMT
#630
maybe everyone is 3p except me
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October 30 2020 01:53 GMT
#631
the named VT part seems strange too im pretty sure you always have a name in greymist games?
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October 30 2020 06:49 GMT
#693
On October 30 2020 15:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:14 yamato77 wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:05 yamato77 wrote:
Shockey if you're town you should at least explain something about your role at this point.


I sell insurance, you know, protection.

Why would you think your night action is worse than visiting the database if your claim is true?


I didn’t say that.

What is this nonsense. You literally said your the best candidate and now your saying you have a protective role
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October 30 2020 06:58 GMT
#696
On October 30 2020 15:54 Tictock wrote:
The more I look at and read the rules I think checking "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is specific to the person you are checking.

So I think if I check Dirk and what the corruption level does and I get nothing then that means his claim is pretty legit, otherwise my sus about him is totally valid.

This seems like a solid option for me then as I will either be able to clear Dirk or prove he lied about his claim.

I don't have an interest in trying to control what everybody does, but I do think it would be good to say who, what, and why you are going to the database so we can at least try to track what is going on in this game.

Greymist literally clarified it in the thread
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iamperfection
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October 30 2020 07:14 GMT
#707
On October 29 2020 16:10 GreYMisT wrote:
I have had a few questions about this, so here was my intent in the rules post.

You must always target a player when you visit the database because otherwise the database won’t let you connect. Once you are “in” you are able to determine what effect the next level of corruption will have on the game.

Again, my intent was to have that be clear from that post. Carry on.

No he says you just have to target a player. He says once your in you able to see what the corruption will have on the game. It doesn't say player
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iamperfection
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United States9643 Posts
October 30 2020 07:18 GMT
#711
I'm finding out what the corruption does btw I don't trust hapa to do it. Good night
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iamperfection
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United States9643 Posts
October 30 2020 07:26 GMT
#714
You don't think yamato has been more townish recently?
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October 30 2020 07:38 GMT
#719
On October 30 2020 16:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 10:53 iamperfection wrote:
the named VT part seems strange too im pretty sure you always have a name in greymist games?


Btw i never claimed VT. I also a night action.

Named town whatever
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 13:57 GMT
#896
Just reading the night post it says still processing which reads to me as just being delayed. Acro if your town find out if you can still post.
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November 01 2020 14:03 GMT
#897
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.

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iamperfection
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United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 14:05 GMT
#898
At least I didn't fuck up untill after the switch
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 14:10 GMT
#899
So in our thread one of yamato Rayn and slam lied about vote or fucked up?
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 14:30 GMT
#902
On November 01 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
So in our thread one of yamato Rayn and slam lied about vote or fucked up?

why would i lie or fuck up?

Just saying it has to be one you three.
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November 01 2020 14:33 GMT
#903
On November 01 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.


what comment?

When he talked about going we were talking about sending everyone because we didn't know at the time raising the corruption level was atrocious for town.
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November 01 2020 14:37 GMT
#905
Dirkzor when you claimed you said the downside was the corruption counter went up by 1 why did you word it that way?
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November 01 2020 14:40 GMT
#906
On November 01 2020 23:36 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 22:21 Dirkzor wrote:
Is acrofales role coming? Or is it part of the game that we dont know his role?


The night post stated that his role is currently being processed. We anticipate this will be completed in the near future.

This means just the role is being delayed like I said. He probably can't post then and was lynched.
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 14:42 GMT
#908
I can be the only one going to the database. If anyone else goes or is caught by a role going it's a scum claim.
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 14:45 GMT
#909
On November 01 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.


what comment?

When he talked about going we were talking about sending everyone because we didn't know at the time raising the corruption level was atrocious for town.

But what is the comment he made that makes you think so?
I mean like he said this:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:30 Onegu wrote:
Or am I missing something here that I didn't see because I only skimmed it

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?


This has been discussed hehe. I thought you were going in already.



I thought it had already been discussed I haven't read the thread. But what was decided? And why aren't we coordinating who everyone is visiting? And shouting at people to do it?

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
I know it's to late to shout at people. I will be visiting and targeting koshi

I understand he is saying it's a possibility that everyone goes. But after that he is saying the townie thing that we should consolidate and even asks who is going? Did he check who was going? Did he try to follow up with something?

I am not sure his D1 post on Grack lines up with that string of posts, regardless ofwhat he decided to do.

I also dont really like you saying i could have lied or even worse fucked up or forgotten to do something, because i dont do that. I dont like it because you are very adamant on telling people how they should think (re: my grack problem D1), what is the most likely explanation. It's not a bad thing playing like that because it usually ends up in a right conclusion but suggesting i could have lied (which would make me mafia) about voting for TT when i made the case on him when noone and their mothers even thought he could be mafia when i could just like... not do that lol...

I think that's the dumbest thing you have suggested this game.

I'm just saying I know for a fact I voted for him. I don't know a 100 percent that the rest of you three did and the fact he didn't die means one of you lied or fucked up..... Not sure why your getting your panties in a bunch over it.
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November 01 2020 16:10 GMT
#913
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Yes
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November 01 2020 16:58 GMT
#916
On November 02 2020 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:05 iamperfection wrote:
At least I didn't fuck up untill after the switch

what is this ?

I posted in wrong thread but I made it through the whole cycle.
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 16:59 GMT
#917
On November 02 2020 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Iamp do you agree that Hapa + Dirkzor should never go in any case unless agreed by town?

Nobody goes no matter who they are. I don't care if greymist himself posts that he went we lynch whoever gets caught going.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 17:13 GMT
#922
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 17:19 GMT
#927
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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November 01 2020 17:20 GMT
#929
On November 02 2020 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:14 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When did you vote for Koshi and why?

Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people

When exactly?

Why did you not post a vote on Koshi TO vote for him but posted a vote on TT and NOT vote him?

Cell phone reception and around 7pm my time, when I was shitting and saw my PM did not go through (bad token or some shit) and was clear. Forgot who I was voting for, didn’t care that much as I needed to wipe and go drive, voted Koshi

That would be... about 5AM this morning your time

Oh so you don't care about vote yeah you can die.
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 17:23 GMT
#931
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 17:25 GMT
#933
On November 02 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you

The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 17:29 GMT
#937
On November 02 2020 02:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you

That’s fine a lot of people don’t believe my life, like dating billionaire heiresses while driving the poor man’s taxi- then marrying fallen-from-grace heiress friends instead

Having wealthy parents but being dirt poor in LA

Being a sharpshooter with no gun

Being a libertarian not voting for Jo Jorgensen

My life is really weird and bigger than mafia so if that bothers you I’m sorry I guess? I do care about the game but not every waking moment. Let’s just lynch TT in the next day.

How bout we lynch you first or better yet someone takes care of you tonight. I couldnt care less about your real life.
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 17:30 GMT
#938
On November 02 2020 02:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:25 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you

The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy

I didn’t unvote bro. Read it.

Whatever the even worse claim that you forgot who you were voting which is even dumber
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 17:31 GMT
#939
Do you believe this story Rayn ?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 17:32 GMT
#941
On November 02 2020 02:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:25 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you

The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy

Not reading pushing low hanging fruit, this is interesting

TR for rayn but I don’t know about this one anymore.

But ShoCkeyy stuff?


Could it be ShoCkeyy and Iamp?

I read every fucking post. Anyone suggesting I'm mafia at this point needs to go back to newbie school
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United States9643 Posts
November 01 2020 17:43 GMT
#944
On November 02 2020 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:25 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
[quote]
Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.

So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????

I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.

I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.

So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.

So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.

I don't believe you

The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy

Not reading pushing low hanging fruit, this is interesting

TR for rayn but I don’t know about this one anymore.

But ShoCkeyy stuff?


Could it be ShoCkeyy and Iamp?

I read every fucking post. Anyone suggesting I'm mafia at this point needs to go back to newbie school

Sure! I need to go back to newbie school for the distracted hopeful businessman barely keeping his fam off the street I’ll take that.

Like I do care I just don’t care about being badass. Or ebough to commit this stuff to memory in front of “ok so are we gonna shoot for trucking or landscaping? There are 5 trucking businesses for sale but currently everything for landscaping that is any good is in NorCal, if anything my parents want to leave Cal entirely so asking to move up there makes no sense... oh dammit my fucking vote didn’t go through. Who was I voting again? Probably Koshi or some shit, I don’t want to no vote this thing... here we go. Alright back to life”

If I was scum, why say anything at all? I could just fein to winder if scum had some way to just nullify a lynch because what with the hard lurking, TT does look really bad.

You expect me to believe that you checked to see if your pm went through but didn't have time to check who you were voting. And what do you mean by token there is no token that would be for like a message on phone not a message on team liquid

Your last point has some merit.

But you are a self admitted moron.

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November 01 2020 18:32 GMT
#969
On November 02 2020 03:30 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:37 iamperfection wrote:
Dirkzor when you claimed you said the downside was the corruption counter went up by 1 why did you word it that way?

I'm not sure what you are asking here?

Does it come from your role?
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November 01 2020 21:27 GMT
#1008
There was no lie in Alakslams's eyes. A fool… but an honest fool he remains.

i agree with hapa's interpretation.
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November 01 2020 21:30 GMT
#1009
koshi that's unacceptable
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November 01 2020 21:40 GMT
#1012
i want options for the database i can only think of 2 but i want multiple in the thread so i can pick from them.
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November 01 2020 21:46 GMT
#1014
On November 02 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 06:40 iamperfection wrote:
i want options for the database i can only think of 2 but i want multiple in the thread so i can pick from them.

we force one to go who is mafia, or you go.

i mean for my actual action as in what to do. We also have a problem if im the only one to go that im checking on
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November 01 2020 21:53 GMT
#1019
On November 02 2020 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:40 iamperfection wrote:
i want options for the database i can only think of 2 but i want multiple in the thread so i can pick from them.

we force one to go who is mafia, or you go.

i mean for my actual action as in what to do. We also have a problem if im the only one to go that im checking on

idk about the action. i dont think there is anything useful. like yamato confirmed i did something D0 (duh). i dont think tha database is that useful unless someone claims to be a role and you can contradict it in a way it was/wasn't in some other greymist game.

it's just not that useful imo.

im just worried if they know exactly what im doing they could fuck with it. I'm also worried if i get role-blocked but im checking to see if going to the database can be role-blocked.

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November 01 2020 21:54 GMT
#1020
my guess would be it cant since it isnt your role but thats just speculation
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November 01 2020 21:56 GMT
#1023
On November 02 2020 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 06:53 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 06:40 iamperfection wrote:
i want options for the database i can only think of 2 but i want multiple in the thread so i can pick from them.

we force one to go who is mafia, or you go.

i mean for my actual action as in what to do. We also have a problem if im the only one to go that im checking on

idk about the action. i dont think there is anything useful. like yamato confirmed i did something D0 (duh). i dont think tha database is that useful unless someone claims to be a role and you can contradict it in a way it was/wasn't in some other greymist game.

it's just not that useful imo.

im just worried if they know exactly what im doing they could fuck with it. I'm also worried if i get role-blocked but im checking to see if going to the database can be role-blocked.


roleblocking is a thing but i dont think we should take that into account. rbing someone who goes to the database uis always better than rbing someone that uses shit for town.

if nobody goes it would give them more KP? seems worth it ?
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November 01 2020 21:59 GMT
#1026
well i cant perform an action so if you have something useful it would be best for me to go. we can wait till i get answer about roleblock though.
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November 01 2020 22:06 GMT
#1032
it was worded like this

The next corruption event will cause Aperture Science KP to become more powerful!
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November 01 2020 22:07 GMT
#1035
i hadn't thought about that it could become piercing i was thinking more but it could be that.
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November 01 2020 22:08 GMT
#1036
On November 02 2020 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i should go. I really think it should be me.


ok
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November 01 2020 22:18 GMT
#1043
alright so the action of going to the database can be roleblocked.
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November 01 2020 22:20 GMT
#1045
who
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iamperfection
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November 01 2020 22:39 GMT
#1051
in addition to the above post


Being dumb is now policy lynched any BS about i didnt read the thread i didnt send my vote i changed my vote without telling anyone will die.
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November 01 2020 22:42 GMT
#1052
and no more sob stories too

i dont care about whatever bs is going on in your life you signed up to play the game play the game.
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November 01 2020 23:26 GMT
#1069
you respect me. nobody respects me.
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November 01 2020 23:44 GMT
#1071
On November 02 2020 08:34 Hapahauli wrote:
What’s up Rayn?

if you visit database you die just a friendly reminder.
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November 01 2020 23:49 GMT
#1073
On November 02 2020 08:48 Alakaslam wrote:
My dirkzor’s recommendation (thank you) I found out what happened with my phone.

All the messages went through anyway. If I had sat on my hands,

Uh

Well the same result but I’d be more pissed at Koshi than I actually am.

Iamp only tonight agreed

DID YOU NOT READ THE NEW POLICY
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November 02 2020 02:07 GMT
#1078
like is everyone deliberately trying to tilt me by not reading the thread ?
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November 02 2020 02:39 GMT
#1080
i dont know what is going on you tell me what is the plan for the database
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November 02 2020 02:54 GMT
#1082
On November 02 2020 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Well it sounds like you're going.

If you're really worried about roleblock I'm still not doing anything tonight. I'm not sure that mafia can reliably count on nobody else going to prioritize role blocking you. There are probably enough wildcards between 3rd party and independent minded townies.

does it sound like im going ?
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November 02 2020 03:03 GMT
#1084
Hopefully mafia grants me the sweet release of death.


1.Iamperfection – confirmed town


2. Hapahauli – absolutely 3p consider killing late game if still alive. I don’t see him making a 3p claim the way he did as scum. If he does something anti town like visit the data base kill him and cite this post. If he argues just quote this section over and over again.

3. Grackaroni - almost as useless as onegu somehow. Null slightly scumish dumb town tell look it up. fairly confident about review later if you have to.

4. Onegu – kill

5. Dirkzor – slightly townish for reasons he was a bit brash early making think town but not a super strong read. I wouldn’t be shocked if turned out to be scum. Especially if god forbid acro is town somehow. His vote post off of onegu doesn’t make any sense to me and his role is obviously anti town by raising the level. If the so called reward/hint is shit I would take a long look at lynching him.

6. Acrofales – he will flip scum…. For my sanity I hope

7. ShoCkeyy – I don’t know very confusing. The needing to post to say he was busy but to stick around with small heat was scummy I believe his claim he swapped which we saw me missing kp

8. Alakaslam – the scum haven’t posted comment struck me as weird but most of his posts I find strange well played fake sob story if scum. His argument about he didn’t have to reveal he didn’t vote is slightly wifom but probably town I would say

9. Tictock – kill

10. Koshi – high energy but no real scum reads that I remember ?????? wouldn’t be shocked if scum pretty null on him

11. Raynpelikoneet – town large activity, trying to figure things out. Some posts struck me as weird but I don’t care if he is scum he can win. He has to be town as hes the only one really playing with me ☹.

12. Yamato77- scumish –hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. The anger seemed real but I think that could come from either alignment so it doesn’t get him any town points. Came on strong at the end of night looking like town but his play since has been just like his last post I saw poop. Null slightly scumish

Also the plan is for rayn to go to database as we discussed. Anyone else going or caught going is a scum claim no if ands or buts i don't care if you didnt read you die. If you have an ability that lowers corruption in some way check with greymist when the lowering would happen. For example if the next night the corruption is at 3 somehow and you reduce it to 2 would that lower or weaken the kp before or after the kp for that night? Basically ask when your ability happens with regards to other effects.


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November 02 2020 13:51 GMT
#1156
On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).

anyone want to claim the RB on hapa? I suggest you do if your town.
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:02 GMT
#1159
On November 02 2020 22:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 22:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).

anyone want to claim the RB on hapa? I suggest you do if your town.

I did but it was because my cat died so I didn't have time to play and I was confused.

so you are claiming that ?
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:05 GMT
#1160
im voting rayn
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:07 GMT
#1162
im pretty sure yamato is claiming he has to write like that.
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:12 GMT
#1166
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.
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November 02 2020 14:20 GMT
#1170
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:23 GMT
#1173
On November 02 2020 23:20 Onegu wrote:
If someone actually did that to Yams. I give you props!

Seems like he doesnt believe my claim which is sad. I just want to be shot and then I can prove it by killing myself...

Also I will not be voting for iamp.

well you cant vote for me can you.


also your claim is dumb because YOU NEVER CLAIM VETERAN.
your play makes no sense as a veteran. You should have used what limited ability you have to try to be a good townie if your actually a veteran.
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November 02 2020 14:29 GMT
#1182
On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?


What?

did i stutter?
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:32 GMT
#1186
On November 02 2020 23:31 Onegu wrote:
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.

so you didnt visit anyone then correct ?
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November 02 2020 14:36 GMT
#1196
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?
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iamperfection
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November 02 2020 14:38 GMT
#1199
On November 02 2020 23:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, is your "transformation" temporary?

For "yes" - eat a carrot
For "no" - poop.

God that was weird to write.

-poop-

-poop- = this is bull shit
Carrot = i somewhat agree/ good thinking
Licks fondly = I completely agree.
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November 02 2020 14:38 GMT
#1201
On November 02 2020 23:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?



Correct

and i mean no action not just visiting the database
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November 02 2020 14:41 GMT
#1209
On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.

really are you sure about that?

so you visited hapa night 0 and yamato last night ?
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November 02 2020 14:44 GMT
#1213
On November 02 2020 23:35 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?


What?

did i stutter?


No, but i dont understand anyway. I'm trying to figure shit out just like you and you attack me.

im saying you do not have my permission to role hunt.
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November 02 2020 14:49 GMT
#1217
On November 02 2020 23:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:41 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.

really are you sure about that?

so you visited hapa night 0 and yamato last night ?

Hmm. How do you not get the sarcasm here Mr. Policy lynch all liars, sobstory and irl excuses guy.


I didn't do anything to those last nights. I did things though. Secret things. Or Didn't I?

I may have forgot to send in actions twice.

But for sure I didn't do anything to Hapa and the other guy

so you didnt visit hapa or yamato is what your saying
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November 02 2020 14:50 GMT
#1221
On November 02 2020 23:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:48 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:41 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.

really are you sure about that?

so you visited hapa night 0 and yamato last night ?

Hmm. How do you not get the sarcasm here Mr. Policy lynch all liars, sobstory and irl excuses guy.


I didn't do anything to those last nights. I did things though. Secret things. Or Didn't I?

I may have forgot to send in actions twice.

But for sure I didn't do anything to Hapa and the other guy

so you didnt visit hapa or yamato is what your saying

...
Yes
wow

ok
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November 02 2020 14:58 GMT
#1235
On November 02 2020 23:54 Onegu wrote:
I think iamp needs to ask more people if they are sure of their answers to him...twice

why you want to retract a previous statement.
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November 02 2020 15:22 GMT
#1250
On November 03 2020 00:21 Hapahauli wrote:
We may be very close to solving this game with a full claim, given the lack of scum KP.

dont listen to this nonsense.

im sure you want a full claim for your own reasons.
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November 02 2020 15:24 GMT
#1254
On November 03 2020 00:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 00:12 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:05 Koshi wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:04 Koshi wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Like wtf could I have done that is mafialike or pushes mafia agenda. Pretty sure nothing. Not even by accident.

Just this weird idea I should care more as town. lol.


Well first, you can stop pushing the town insurer as mafia. I’m certain I helped find Acro as mafia.

Your role is a very big ???
I don't believe it except the busdriving part.

Oh and to build on to that.

You had Acro 100% pegged and trapped as mafia.
Why did you vote Dirk?


Cause Acro was getting voted out anyways. And my role isn’t very big if I get roleblocked like I did last night.


It was a hidden vote. How would you know if acro was voted or not?

One could also wonder how he knows he is being roleblocked except if it is notified. Or he protected TTTTT.
But your question is fine as well.

smh

This is a Closed setup. However, it will be the game standard for alignment and role to be revealed on death. It will be standard for a player to be notified if they are roleblocked.
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November 02 2020 15:32 GMT
#1260
yamato put a carrot next to who you kill as mayor

2. Hapahauli

3. Grackaroni

4. Onegu

5. Dirkzor

7. ShoCkeyy

8. Alakaslam

9. Tictock

10. Koshi

11. Raynpelikoneet

12. Yamato77
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November 02 2020 15:37 GMT
#1264
On November 03 2020 00:30 Hapahauli wrote:
It is pretty clear from the game dynamic on D1 that Acro was bussed. Why would mafia-Shockeyy hard bus Acro, vote Dirk, then admit to voting for Dirk after Acro is already confirmed lynched, knowing that Acro would flip mafia and make him look like shit?

this is true. I think the simplest explanation is that shockeyy is town.
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November 02 2020 15:49 GMT
#1277
On November 03 2020 00:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 00:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:42 Hapahauli wrote:
The player that looks the worst from Day 1 is Grack IMO.

As I stated before, he poked and prodded all of Day 1 and didn't make any commitments on Acro until SUPER LATE in the day, when it was pretty clear that everyone wanted Acro dead.

I don't think that's true.

I spent like half of that day reading through the thread from the start and there wasn't much of a consensus or really any activity at all. You dropped your case and left. Dirkzor voted 3 different people and then I voted Acro rather than try to go for a lynch of my own. I don't think Acro would be dead if I didn't put my vote there.


Literally all of thread B was screaming for Acro's head. Are you telling me that you didn't pay attention to that at all?

for the record that thread was the A thread. your thread felt like more of a B thread.
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November 02 2020 16:11 GMT
#1290
and you know he wouldn't even have to vote for him because he was in the other thread.
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November 02 2020 16:36 GMT
#1299
i consider this mayor vote a dick measuring contest between yamato and rayn. Disappointed im not in there.
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November 02 2020 16:37 GMT
#1300
as there would be no doubt who would win then.
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November 02 2020 17:11 GMT
#1321
On November 03 2020 02:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 22:54 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 22:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).

anyone want to claim the RB on hapa? I suggest you do if your town.

I did but it was because my cat died so I didn't have time to play and I was confused.

You didn't? I can see you started joking after that but i thought this was a legit post, at least the action.

No sorry. I wanted to play with iamp a bit. But it didnt work out. Went south a lot.

noted

you might want to just come clean clearly who you visited
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November 02 2020 17:22 GMT
#1329
On November 03 2020 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it's really safe to assume shockeyy is town here and actually did whatever he said he did N0. Otherwise mafia must have been exactly acrofales/shockeyy/hapa and that's kinda dumb imo. By dumb i mean it doesn't really make sense. Now why did Acrofales want to split the thread the way he did?

so he could claim he didnt have control over it.
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November 02 2020 17:39 GMT
#1341
i think koshi might be afraid i have caught him in a lie
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November 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#1344
On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.

or he hoped it would be. I think trying to get in the head of someone we know was trying to deceive us is just gonna get us go in circles.
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November 02 2020 17:55 GMT
#1351
On November 03 2020 02:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...

i really am speechless
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November 02 2020 18:18 GMT
#1369
Did you visit hapa?
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November 02 2020 18:18 GMT
#1371
On November 03 2020 03:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 03:18 iamperfection wrote:
Did you visit hapa?

No.

Ok
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November 02 2020 18:32 GMT
#1386
On November 03 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 03 2020 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Very clearly I said to lynch acro. I jumped on acro immediately.

And in our thread I said to lynch Slam which is still very much likely the correct idea. It is not my fault you dumbasses killed a mindmelded townie and now want to kill the townie who stood up for him.
Like if TTTTT is town you fuckers completely misread him, and refused to believe another townie claiming a full mindmeld. You know how sgitty that is?

I wouldn't lynch you at least before i know either TT flips mafia or Slam flips town. I don't know about others.

We can grant him a cycle
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November 02 2020 19:05 GMT
#1400
On November 03 2020 04:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Did we ever resolve from Night 0 why the corruption counter went up?


Wasn't it cause of Dirk?

that made it go to 1 its at 2 now
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November 02 2020 19:07 GMT
#1401
On November 03 2020 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Did we ever resolve from Night 0 why the corruption counter went up?

but me yamato ticktock and onegu all went so that would have raised it
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November 02 2020 20:27 GMT
#1415
for both grack and onegu why did they lynch their partner then if mafia ?
Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time?
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November 02 2020 20:29 GMT
#1417
On November 03 2020 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
for both grack and onegu why did they lynch their partner then if mafia ?
Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time?

just for the cred because acros role is bad ? eh i dont think so
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November 02 2020 21:06 GMT
#1422
On November 03 2020 06:02 Onegu wrote:
I dont really want to put this out there, I could not be lying about my role but my faction he knows I am mafia and trys to get you to shoot me knowing it will power me up... This was before my claim.

Also if there is another gun you really should shoot me. The next day you still lynch and then I stop all kills for a cycle if I dont immediately sacrifice myself it is a scum claim and you react accordingly

good point lol
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November 02 2020 21:13 GMT
#1424
i think hapa is a sk or he has to kill certain people before he can win.

Its why he wanted a full claim before.
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November 02 2020 21:19 GMT
#1427
On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

or you dont care because you have to kill everybody
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November 02 2020 21:22 GMT
#1429
On November 03 2020 06:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

or you dont care because you have to kill everybody


In what world would an SK think it was a good idea to claim 3p?

in the world of greymist games where the roles are very complicated.
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November 02 2020 21:26 GMT
#1432
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.
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November 03 2020 02:01 GMT
#1450
+ Show Spoiler +
for postgame yamato made up this part of his role to entertain himself
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November 03 2020 02:03 GMT
#1451
rayn you haven't voted for yourself ?
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November 03 2020 14:04 GMT
#1521
im voting yamato under protest
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November 03 2020 14:20 GMT
#1534
On November 03 2020 23:16 Dirkzor wrote:
But i can see a Slam/Onegu scum team.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 03 2020 09:13 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.

Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.

My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.

-poops-

“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”

Obviously I can’t vote you.

Anyway.

Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.

Iamp is lock town.
Hapa is more questionable than he was.
Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.

Yama is clearly town.
My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips.
Rayn is obvious town to me.
Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean.
ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.

Dirkzor is town IMO.


i dont know what slam is talking about there. I basically just berated onegu for being garbage which regardless of alignment we can agree on i think.
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November 03 2020 14:29 GMT
#1538
On November 03 2020 23:26 GreYMisT wrote:
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On November 03 2020 23:04 iamperfection wrote:
im voting yamato under protest

congratulations on the defiler icon

?
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November 03 2020 14:31 GMT
#1540
On November 03 2020 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i have absolutely no idea why i am not eligible for mayor. I thought i did but it was not what i thought. I think i still might know but that would require me to have information i dont want to have rn.

host fuck up implies miss interaction between roles would be my guess.
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November 03 2020 14:46 GMT
#1549
i dont get how you can edit quotes yamato but have to talk like that.
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November 03 2020 14:52 GMT
#1553
slam or koshi he said
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November 03 2020 15:15 GMT
#1558
On November 04 2020 00:06 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 23:46 iamperfection wrote:
i dont get how you can edit quotes yamato but have to talk like that.


bolding is the same thing as editing
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November 03 2020 16:35 GMT
#1578
On November 04 2020 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

Literally i said every piece of this shit. You can just say i agree with rayn.

i dont understand your mad he stole some of your ideas and made them easier to understand ?
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November 03 2020 16:41 GMT
#1588
On November 04 2020 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 01:35 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

Literally i said every piece of this shit. You can just say i agree with rayn.

i dont understand your mad he stole some of your ideas and made them easier to understand ?

i am not mad? he could have quoted me and said i agree with rayn instead of writing my words again. It's not really hapa-like imo.

i think he is expanding on your points a lot imo. Or at the very least making them more clear.
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 16:48 GMT
#1596
yeah were not killing hapa until we absolutely have to.
He isnt on the scum team.
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November 03 2020 17:03 GMT
#1608
On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:
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On November 04 2020 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you wanna get Dirkzor in powah?

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

do you have a problem with yamato outside of wanting to kill you?
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 17:52 GMT
#1637
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?
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November 03 2020 18:01 GMT
#1639
On November 04 2020 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 02:52 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?

i dont think dirkzor can sway the vote in any way if he is mafia.

it just seems so detached from what is going on
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November 03 2020 18:10 GMT
#1642
On November 04 2020 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:52 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?

i dont think dirkzor can sway the vote in any way if he is mafia.

it just seems so detached from what is going on

do you think dirkzor thinks he is gonna win the mayoral race?

No. Just for show then?
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 18:11 GMT
#1643
On November 04 2020 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am like 50% the game is solved this phase. if you think it will help i will claim, iamp. that is if you think i am not 100% town. i am if i claim but i dont want to do that for nothing.

i think onegu is taking shit about the threads because he didnt think TT is town and his explanation smells like ass.

i know hapa is bs. i dont know why and i dont know if it hursts us but i know hapa is bs.

Koshi is probably town.

Slam can be mafia.

TT can be mafia.

Grack can be mafia.

Everyone else is town i think, Dirkzor can be 3p but i care less about him than i care about hapa.

Nah you don't have to claim
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November 03 2020 18:27 GMT
#1653
On November 04 2020 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies

it's an upside that ZERO players might not be able to confirmed? really hapa? really.............. i know about statistics and if your chances are from 0 to 3 then you are as good as nothing.

He was talking from mafias perspective
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November 03 2020 18:32 GMT
#1656
On November 04 2020 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i agree that i probably look like shit after this, but i want to kill hapa because he is not being honest. most of the people may not see it. it's okay, i dont even think we NEED to kill hapa. i want all the town win and not some smuggy 3p's who are shit. hapa is a smuggy 3p and we are in a good position to have 1 mafia dead and no towns so far.

call me scummy for trying to sway the lynch away from mafia idc. another thing is that i wanna see TT flip before i decide if to lynch slam or not, and hapa being very not town gave me a chance to try.

Like hapa is most responsible for getting acro he had the most sway in that thread he is a non issue. Plus I need him for a little bit anyways.
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November 03 2020 18:33 GMT
#1657
On November 04 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:27 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies

it's an upside that ZERO players might not be able to confirmed? really hapa? really.............. i know about statistics and if your chances are from 0 to 3 then you are as good as nothing.

He was talking from mafias perspective

what no? lol

He was talking about the secret voting in response to my question why any of the 4 voters would not just lie if they were mafia.
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November 03 2020 18:41 GMT
#1665
On November 04 2020 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guess that's correct but why to even fucking say that? like if we lynched TT and he flipped mafia 0-5 ppl can be confirmed town if TT flips mafia. am i now town?

I don't think you understand what he is saying. He is saying that if someone lied about their vote and they flip at a later point it confirms the other voters as town and outs acro which is why bussing isn't dumb.
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November 03 2020 18:53 GMT
#1671
if hapa gets killed im taking it as a scum claim he will provide information that i need.
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November 03 2020 18:56 GMT
#1674
On November 04 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:53 iamperfection wrote:
if hapa gets killed im taking it as a scum claim he will provide information that i need.

is this like cult or something?

no i can find out who roleblocked him.
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November 03 2020 18:58 GMT
#1676
On November 04 2020 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 03:53 iamperfection wrote:
if hapa gets killed im taking it as a scum claim he will provide information that i need.

is this like cult or something?

no i can find out who roleblocked him.

if he lives this day?

yes
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November 03 2020 18:59 GMT
#1678
i read it wrong he can be actually dead lol.
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November 03 2020 19:02 GMT
#1681
On November 04 2020 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and you think we cannot win the game with killing a claimed 3p who is saying they are leaving the game today?

what
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 19:06 GMT
#1683
On November 04 2020 03:46 Dirkzor wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 03:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I think basicly it all town arguing between themselves at this point. Our finest job is to just stay the course and dont fuck it up. Which you are doing rayn.

hi do you need hapa dead in order to win?

Well, maybe. I need town win to win. So that depends on Hapa's win con i guess. I just don't happen to agree with you.

I don't know what hapa is up to. Be i have had a solid town read on him all game (despite his claim). He thinks like i do and does what i do/want to do.

But im fealing super confident about Onegu/Slam that i think, for now, its a non issue and will only muddy the water by dragging town through it.

onegu or slam is fine

you or koshi if hes feeling adventurous.
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November 03 2020 19:06 GMT
#1684
On November 04 2020 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

I assumed he can win N2, D2 N2 what's the difference?

he probably has to survive too
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November 03 2020 19:12 GMT
#1687
On November 04 2020 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is not helping town since D1 period.


Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hapa is not helping the town 100%

Do you disagree?

yes i do sort of.

Ill have more stuff to say tomorrow.
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 19:24 GMT
#1691
On November 04 2020 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tomorrow as before or after the lynch?

tomorrow as in after the lynch

but if hapa is dead i wont take it as a scum claim i read something wrong but i would highly prefer if he was alive.
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November 03 2020 19:26 GMT
#1693
On November 04 2020 04:24 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tomorrow as before or after the lynch?

tomorrow as in after the lynch

but if hapa is dead i wont take it as a scum claim i read something wrong but i would highly prefer if he was alive.

and i only prefer it as other people should die before him
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November 03 2020 20:20 GMT
#1735
On November 04 2020 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
have you ever argued about anything in this game?

we are like each others favorite people to play with thats why we dont fight. Plus he is clearly not on the scum team and i am clearly not scum.

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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 20:23 GMT
#1739
On November 04 2020 05:09 Onegu wrote:
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On November 04 2020 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 05:01 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont care, aside from what i think a vet calling a vigi on himself has to be mafia.
Period.
Or a fucking fucktard.



I power up.. I will never get shot by scum how many games I have played here now? I have been shot by scum 1 time I think...

I seriously think you hit the liquor early today...

You know I love you Rayn you are one of my favorite people on this site, but chill the fuck out.

If you think as veteran your best play is to call a shot on you and play like you did it makes you even more mafia.

Maybe you're just onegu and shit but everyone tells me to play for the easiest answer and this is it. You're mafia because you need top get shot and you play like you are never gonna get shot ever in the world.



I never get shot by mafia... I dont...

Ok full claim.

I am the Time Traveling Vigilante who lost his gun in the first aperture game. Even though I lost my gun if I am shot I can jump back in time to cancel the shot once. Then I can rewire my gear to sacrifice my self and prevent all kills for the day and night. Like the godsend role but I dont end the day. So you still get a full day after I sac my self.

your full claim seems to be lacking a lot of details.
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November 03 2020 20:27 GMT
#1746
On November 04 2020 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 05:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
have you ever argued about anything in this game?

we are like each others favorite people to play with thats why we dont fight. Plus he is clearly not on the scum team and i am clearly not scum.


unless you are scumteam #2 when you can scumhunt anyways.
i know you are each others favorites or whatever but like you are not even blinking an eye on the shit he says. either you're gonna be sad when he says i was right after the game when he fucked us as 3p or you are scummers with him.

like you take some word choice and go off the deep end because of it.

I questioned hapa a lot. I dont even fully believe he isnt hiding stuff but if you look at most of the evidence he is clearly not on the scum team as he provided a lot of weight in killing acro. Claimed 3p in such a strange way it implies his win condition is very weird and is not part of the scum team there are just so many people that need to die before him.

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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 20:29 GMT
#1747
I am the Time Traveling Vigilante who lost his gun in the first aperture game. Even though I lost my gun if I am shot I can jump back in time to cancel the shot once. Then I can rewire my gear to sacrifice my self and prevent all kills for the day and night.

Its missing a lot. When would you die for example?
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 20:52 GMT
#1768
you need to just embrace the chaos my friend.
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 20:55 GMT
#1769
if me and hapa were on a second scum team we would be winning by so much right now lul
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November 03 2020 20:56 GMT
#1771
On November 04 2020 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 05:55 iamperfection wrote:
if me and hapa were on a second scum team we would be winning by so much right now lul

you are ?

i wish
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November 03 2020 21:06 GMT
#1775
On November 04 2020 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you tell me what beautiful insight hapa has given since D1?

he gave insights you just hate them.
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 21:10 GMT
#1779
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.
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November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1784
On November 04 2020 06:12 Onegu wrote:
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it

wouldnt that make you think he is more likely to be scum!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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November 03 2020 21:13 GMT
#1785
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone
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November 03 2020 21:14 GMT
#1789
On November 04 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually like them a lot because i made them first

yes but he expanded on them and made them easier to understand we are going in a circle and your starting to bore me.

show me how? show me one thing he expanded on in comparison to me please.

the whole thing that started this conversation im on phone

you mean the post where he basically quoted me and wrote it on his own words?

yes but it was much better
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 21:24 GMT
#1793
i found his post easier to understand i didn't get what you were going with the first post at first.
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November 03 2020 21:42 GMT
#1802
On November 04 2020 06:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:12 Onegu wrote:
I was starting to think rayn was scum but now he says he is also a time traveler I am second guessing it

wouldnt that make you think he is more likely to be scum!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Not really, look at my role.

im talking to onegu ?
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iamperfection
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November 03 2020 21:43 GMT
#1803
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.
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November 03 2020 21:44 GMT
#1804
On November 04 2020 06:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
you need to just embrace the chaos my friend.


What? as town you'd want to embrace peace. I'm curious why Acro was so upset by you and I switching as I think about it more.

its a greymist game
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November 03 2020 21:51 GMT
#1808
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.
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November 03 2020 22:04 GMT
#1812
On November 04 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

whose?

TT
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November 03 2020 22:05 GMT
#1816
On November 04 2020 07:02 yamato77 wrote:
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On November 03 2020 00:32 iamperfection wrote:
yamato put a carrot next to who you kill as mayor

2. Hapahauli

3. Grackaroni

4. Onegu

5. Dirkzor

7. ShoCkeyy

8. Alakaslam

9. Tictock

10. Koshi

11. Raynpelikoneet

12. Yamato77

-eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot--eats carrot-

thats fine
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November 03 2020 22:06 GMT
#1818
On November 04 2020 07:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.


What are you thoughts on Hapa thoughts about TT? What post do you think made him shoot TT?

i dont know ask him
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November 03 2020 22:07 GMT
#1820
On November 04 2020 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

and you didnt even tell me who is mafia.

yes i did
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November 03 2020 22:12 GMT
#1828
On November 04 2020 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Q: hey how are these people you called mafia, indeed mafia?
A: ah this one person is not now that i think about it

fu

you know what im gonna say it im happy your not up for mayor.

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November 03 2020 22:21 GMT
#1836
On November 04 2020 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

dumbest iamperfection post of all game.

no it isn't.


Mafia posts sometimes look very clean. Town members are more likely to get into fights and show aggression. His posts are very smart and may be because he has extra information. However if i have to guess with a gun to my head he will flip town thats all im saying and its just a gut feeling really it could be wrong i dont know its a mute point anyways.

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November 03 2020 22:22 GMT
#1838
On November 04 2020 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa shot TT, only to say he made a mistake after.
iamp voted for TT, only to now say he is prolly town.

Both of those people dont make mistakes, or if they do, very rarely. Coincidence?

when did hapa and me become gods of course we make mistakes.
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November 03 2020 22:25 GMT
#1842
On November 04 2020 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

dumbest iamperfection post of all game.

no it isn't.


Mafia posts sometimes look very clean. Town members are more likely to get into fights and show aggression. His posts are very smart and may be because he has extra information. However if i have to guess with a gun to my head he will flip town thats all im saying and its just a gut feeling really it could be wrong i dont know its a mute point anyways.


but you voted for him?

yeah and i read through his filter again and had some doubts like he had some original thoughts about slam that stick out.
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November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1845
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

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November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1846
On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.


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November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1847
On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.



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November 03 2020 22:31 GMT
#1853
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.
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November 03 2020 22:33 GMT
#1856
On November 04 2020 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.

i dont think i caused suspicion on acro?

yes you did i called him town and you disagreed
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November 03 2020 22:33 GMT
#1859
On November 04 2020 07:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So, check this out.

Hapa claims RB without even knowing if RB gets a pm, then immediately knows to vote Acro D1.

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On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).


Why do you need to presume you were RB?

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On November 03 2020 00:24 Hapahauli wrote:
OP says that roleblocks are notified.


Why do you need to check 4 days later if RB are notified? You definitely would have been notified.

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On October 30 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Acro, does your ability allow you to control who goes into what thread?


what is this garbage ?
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November 03 2020 22:35 GMT
#1861
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all
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November 03 2020 22:38 GMT
#1868
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

THEN HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED BY MAFIA
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November 03 2020 22:49 GMT
#1877
On November 04 2020 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, why does hapa need to claim roleblocks are notified about 3 days after he is roleblocked?

he was answering a question by koshi the quote is taken out of context.
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November 03 2020 23:06 GMT
#1887
On November 04 2020 08:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

This is all nothing but what i said. Literally nothing else than what i said before, hapa just +1'd me. NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE THING.
if you take out the below, which is completely role-related:
The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

he was roleblocked, seemingly by mafia. Okay what else?
Analysis of how he was rb'd by mafia and what it means. super deep lengths? okay you may say that, how is that deeper than my analysis when i dont know what he does?

in the end he wants to take acro's words by face value, i do too, to some point, iamp DOES NOT, but still hapa went to different lengths in analysis than i did. What the fuck man?

i stand by this. good night for real now


We definitely know that iamperfection and I were switched, and Acro really was upset about it. That could mean he wanted to stack three mafia in group one if iamperfection is mafia, if it was 4 mafia vs 2 town, that's not likely, but a 3v3 is more likely, since they would only need one vote to have majority. However, that didn't happen and that may have forced hapa to vote Acro for town cred.

Lol your so bad read acros role.
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November 03 2020 23:24 GMT
#1894
On November 04 2020 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Can someone tell me if anything of value was accomplished in the last 20 pages of filter?

no
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November 04 2020 01:18 GMT
#1919
wat
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#1923
of course i wouldn't include myself as an option lol
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November 04 2020 01:21 GMT
#1927
yamato is asking you guys who you think is mafia if you cant tell by his bolds.
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November 04 2020 01:24 GMT
#1930
On November 04 2020 10:23 yamato77 wrote:
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On November 04 2020 08:59 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
you need to just embrace the chaos my friend.


What? as town you'd want to embrace peace. I'm curious why Acro was so upset by you and I switching as I think about it more.


Because would be really dumb for scum to claim it. I flip town time traveler it would focus attn on him. Scum wouldn't want to do this...

My problem with rayn is and I say this in the best possible way even though he is normally a asshole he is never obtuse and he is this game and it's bothering the crap out of me.


Did you read into the last few pages?



Currently reading...

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On November 04 2020 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

and you didnt even tell me who is mafia.


thats yamato's way of telling you your being shit onegu.
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November 04 2020 02:21 GMT
#1953
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.
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November 04 2020 04:26 GMT
#1955
On November 04 2020 11:52 Onegu wrote:
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On November 04 2020 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.



Because I would immediately sacrifice myself at the start of the day

so you would be dead and flipped ?
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November 04 2020 04:35 GMT
#1957
On November 04 2020 13:31 Onegu wrote:
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On November 04 2020 13:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:52 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.



Because I would immediately sacrifice myself at the start of the day

so you would be dead and flipped ?



Yes and preventing all NK and Day Vig if there are any...

and that cant be a mafia role why ?
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November 04 2020 13:15 GMT
#2009
On November 04 2020 22:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?

How would he hide among the other voters?
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November 04 2020 14:30 GMT
#2036
On November 04 2020 23:28 Alakaslam wrote:
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On November 04 2020 23:23 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2020 16:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.

But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.


Did you “sap” me last night?

No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.

I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack.
Probably just Grack.

Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.

I don’t affect the counter.

The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.

I think that changes with corruption?

are you saying you don't count as going that's pretty convenient if your scum.
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November 04 2020 14:34 GMT
#2038
On November 04 2020 23:30 Koshi wrote:
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On November 04 2020 23:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:23 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2020 16:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.

But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.


Did you “sap” me last night?

No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.

I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack.
Probably just Grack.

Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.

I don’t affect the counter.

The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.

I think that changes with corruption?

Maybe iamp should go again. He has information now.
But maybe he should share all information before EoN.



The mayor was my role. I thought i was supposed to get information on the people that visited the people up for mayor but i was wrong.

and by i was wrong i mean greymist lol.
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November 04 2020 14:35 GMT
#2039
also i have no idea why rayn became ineligible. Since it was host error im assuming overlooked role interaction.
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November 04 2020 14:49 GMT
#2041
On November 04 2020 23:44 Alakaslam wrote:
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On November 04 2020 23:30 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:23 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 23:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2020 16:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.

But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.


Did you “sap” me last night?

No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.

I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack.
Probably just Grack.

Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.

I don’t affect the counter.

The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.

I think that changes with corruption?

are you saying you don't count as going that's pretty convenient if your scum.

Is it though? From what we have seen I think they want corruption to increase.

Or at this point, he wants it to increase

yes but now you have an "excuse" for the corruption counter going up if you just go and kill someone instead.
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November 04 2020 14:58 GMT
#2042
also i can reveal now there is some other mechanic going on called pollution. Its possible this is a red herring from greymist but i thought i should share about it in case i die. It could have something to do with hapa.
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November 04 2020 15:45 GMT
#2053
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

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November 04 2020 15:56 GMT
#2057
On November 05 2020 00:50 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 05 2020 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.



Yes. At the end of N2.

And Christ, how many mafia do I need to kill before I stop being harassed by townies?

why does it have to be end why does that matter.
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November 04 2020 16:02 GMT
#2061
On November 05 2020 00:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Slam, I understand that you targeted me on N1.

Who did you target on N2?

he said he didnt use it
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November 04 2020 16:10 GMT
#2064
but the corruption count would still increase if only you go correct
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November 05 2020 00:52 GMT
#2088
hapa killed the game by catching all the mafia [image loading]
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November 05 2020 01:48 GMT
#2089
so just slam and grack go to the database agreed ?
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November 05 2020 02:09 GMT
#2091
On November 05 2020 10:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Why send both? Grack should go alone. Slam should do whatever.

well i dont think we ever figured out if you can go to database and kill
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November 05 2020 02:09 GMT
#2092
and we may never know
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November 05 2020 02:57 GMT
#2094
we got him boys
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November 05 2020 13:26 GMT
#2188
On November 05 2020 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 05 2020 22:18 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:13 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look guys:

If shockeyy is mafia he has, instead of busdriving iamp, roleblocked and bus driven) hapa N0. That's a fact. But that doesn't make any sense because iamp made hapa a planeteer N0 so shockeyy should be a planeteer instead of hapa.

Only roleblock hapa doesnt make any sense because slam claims he can stop busdriving. Why do you put a role that can stop something that's not in the game? And also if that was the case Dirkzor's check shoudl return iamp instead of shockeyy.

Why the bolded?

because the planeteer thing would hit shockeyy instead of hapa.

I must have missed some things because I have seen this planeteer thing with the mayor votes be discussed but I have no clue what it is. iamp can make people planeteers? And he targeted hapa n0? So why would Shockey get it then?

iamp made 5 people planeteers. If shocekyy had driven and roleblocked hapa, iamp's power would hit him instead hapa. But it's irrelevant because iamp had to do it D0 rather than N0, since N0 he went to the database.

Since I had no choice in that I had to select planeteers I could visit database and select. It was my understanding that the choices could not be role blocked or redirected.
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November 05 2020 13:28 GMT
#2192
On November 05 2020 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 05 2020 22:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:18 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:13 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look guys:

If shockeyy is mafia he has, instead of busdriving iamp, roleblocked and bus driven) hapa N0. That's a fact. But that doesn't make any sense because iamp made hapa a planeteer N0 so shockeyy should be a planeteer instead of hapa.

Only roleblock hapa doesnt make any sense because slam claims he can stop busdriving. Why do you put a role that can stop something that's not in the game? And also if that was the case Dirkzor's check shoudl return iamp instead of shockeyy.

Why the bolded?

because the planeteer thing would hit shockeyy instead of hapa.

I must have missed some things because I have seen this planeteer thing with the mayor votes be discussed but I have no clue what it is. iamp can make people planeteers? And he targeted hapa n0? So why would Shockey get it then?

iamp made 5 people planeteers. If shocekyy had driven and roleblocked hapa, iamp's power would hit him instead hapa. But it's irrelevant because iamp had to do it D0 rather than N0, since N0 he went to the database.

Since I had no choice in that I had to select planeteers I could visit database and select. It was my understanding that the choices could not be role blocked or redirected.

can you ask?

It was the first thing I asked when the game started
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November 05 2020 13:28 GMT
#2193
On November 05 2020 22:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 22:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:18 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:13 Koshi wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look guys:

If shockeyy is mafia he has, instead of busdriving iamp, roleblocked and bus driven) hapa N0. That's a fact. But that doesn't make any sense because iamp made hapa a planeteer N0 so shockeyy should be a planeteer instead of hapa.

Only roleblock hapa doesnt make any sense because slam claims he can stop busdriving. Why do you put a role that can stop something that's not in the game? And also if that was the case Dirkzor's check shoudl return iamp instead of shockeyy.

Why the bolded?

because the planeteer thing would hit shockeyy instead of hapa.

I must have missed some things because I have seen this planeteer thing with the mayor votes be discussed but I have no clue what it is. iamp can make people planeteers? And he targeted hapa n0? So why would Shockey get it then?

iamp made 5 people planeteers. If shocekyy had driven and roleblocked hapa, iamp's power would hit him instead hapa. But it's irrelevant because iamp had to do it D0 rather than N0, since N0 he went to the database.

Since I had no choice in that I had to select planeteers I could visit database and select. It was my understanding that the choices could not be role blocked or redirected.

Are you 3P? Or do you come 3p back to checks?

Nope
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November 05 2020 13:35 GMT
#2201
On November 05 2020 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you go to the database last night?

no action last night
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November 05 2020 13:51 GMT
#2217
On November 05 2020 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 22:47 Koshi wrote:

And Shockey fakeclaims it happened to him N1?

So what is shockeyy then? Just happened to claim bus-driver when there is a DIRECT nullifying role to him without knowing there is? I don't believe it.

right wouldnt shockeyy be shooting himself then if he were "mafia"
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November 05 2020 13:57 GMT
#2226
On November 05 2020 22:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I’m not mafia you ignorants... I literally can save people, that’s my role... I’m pro town and been pro town. I targeted Hapa last night with my role.

just claim clearly please.

lay out every part
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 13:58 GMT
#2231
you said you were a bus driver lol ??
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 13:58 GMT
#2233
so the check was on you not me
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November 05 2020 13:59 GMT
#2235
dirk is just a dummy why did you take what he said at face value and not think ?
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November 05 2020 13:59 GMT
#2237
On November 05 2020 22:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 22:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 05 2020 22:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Dirk literally claims iamp and onegu aren’t the same role, and some how Koshi and Hapa are saying dirk checked me... can you guys read?

You bus drove yourself with Iamp on that night.


Wtf is bus drive. It just says it redirects any actions a persons has done to them to myself if I’m protecting.

so the check is on you then you pepeg
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November 05 2020 14:26 GMT
#2260
On November 05 2020 23:23 Koshi wrote:
I keep forgetting things. Does the bolded makes sense? I guess.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 23:09 Koshi wrote:
Ok this happened N0

confirmed:
Shockey inversed everything done to iamp N0
Koshi healed iamp but instead shot Shockey
Koshi watched iamp for D1 and N1 but instead tracked Shockey D1 and N1
Mafia put iamp in group 1 and Shockey in group 2 but instead iamp group 2 and Shockey group 1.
Dirk parity cop checked iamp, but instead checked Shockey, which should come back green but got inverted to red?

not confirmed:
- Mafia shot iamp and by doing that healed shockey
or
- Shockey is immortal like he said.


i dont know his role keeps evolving lol
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November 05 2020 14:34 GMT
#2265
can you just say how it was written not translated with how you think it works.
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November 05 2020 14:41 GMT
#2276
On November 05 2020 23:35 Koshi wrote:
Don't get him modkilled?

It makes perfect sense it works exactly how he says it does.

im not saying post his role pm im just saying use the actual words given.
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November 05 2020 14:41 GMT
#2278
On November 05 2020 23:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On a slight plus side, I am now more or less a database watcher.

So

Rayn cheeked Grack

Grack checked Dirkzor

Alakaslam checked ShoCkeyy

And no I didn’t. I checked Hapa. Sho wanna tell me about Hapa

Time to catch up.

lol
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 14:46 GMT
#2285
On November 05 2020 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna tell exactly what i am because it's funny

Once during the day, i can target a player and and name a phase.The next same phase (night or day -- if i name day phase then day etc) they will be returned to whatever status they had at the beginning of the phase i named. They will also be forced to perform the same action on the same target they did that phase. That does not include factional KP. Also all actions that hit them that phase will happen again, aside from roleblocks and docs.

So i found the loophole in matrix. Start of every day phase i go to what i was day 0 and i need to use my shit on myself again. Only thing that can shit my shit up is if i was roleblocked D0 (and therefore not allowed to use my action there because of it). I think hosts didn't think i think i can self-target, but hey, my role PM doesn't say i can so i did

so you did know why you became invalid for mayor because you were no longer a planeter
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 14:56 GMT
#2294
On November 05 2020 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 05 2020 23:46 iamperfection wrote:
On November 05 2020 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna tell exactly what i am because it's funny

Once during the day, i can target a player and and name a phase.The next same phase (night or day -- if i name day phase then day etc) they will be returned to whatever status they had at the beginning of the phase i named. They will also be forced to perform the same action on the same target they did that phase. That does not include factional KP. Also all actions that hit them that phase will happen again, aside from roleblocks and docs.

So i found the loophole in matrix. Start of every day phase i go to what i was day 0 and i need to use my shit on myself again. Only thing that can shit my shit up is if i was roleblocked D0 (and therefore not allowed to use my action there because of it). I think hosts didn't think i think i can self-target, but hey, my role PM doesn't say i can so i did

so you did know why you became invalid for mayor because you were no longer a planeter

not at the time when it was said it was not possible for me, i even asked about it. well i asked if i was SUPPOSED to be a planeteer in the first place and i got no as answer. but yeah i suspected it after.

i am supposed to be planeteer now though? :D

its useless as far as i am aware now though
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 15:09 GMT
#2307
i mean how else would he have all that information?
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 15:10 GMT
#2308
like he has to be lying about his role no ?
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 15:16 GMT
#2315
he killed all the mafia
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 15:36 GMT
#2336
would shockey's ability even reverse a passive ability ?
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 15:41 GMT
#2340
also no concede talk there could be 3p that continue the game plus its unsportsmanlike.
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November 05 2020 15:46 GMT
#2349
On November 06 2020 00:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote:
Why?
1) the action "get info on hapa" was done on Hapa
2) The action "get info is reversed and applied to shockey"
3) Results go back to Slam.

Except I got nothing?!?

You sure got something because you keep crying Shockey

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the action "get info on" maybe got reversed into "get no info on"

or something weird like that.

I don't care tbh

or get the opposite info ?
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November 05 2020 15:50 GMT
#2361
On November 06 2020 00:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if all this other shit is correct is it koshi?


Or it's Grack because he is sitting back and watching all this shit happen.

That's what my gut says.

you just want to be right about everything
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 16:00 GMT
#2380
On November 06 2020 00:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 06 2020 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if all this other shit is correct is it koshi?


Or it's Grack because he is sitting back and watching all this shit happen.

That's what my gut says.

It really can't be me though unless mafia has a role that isn't worth using for 3 turns.

like roleblocker?

That's a valuable role!

could you use that? even if you wanted to?

Well mafia haven't gotten a kill in 3 nights now so I think a roleblock could come in handy.

?
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 16:15 GMT
#2415
why does everyone else get the cool roles.
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 16:28 GMT
#2431
i think i understand why you rub some people the wrong way rayn
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 16:45 GMT
#2451
On November 06 2020 01:42 Koshi wrote:
I was most likely 3 times healing the person who got shot by mafia.

Then yamato killed me.

F. You will be remembered
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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November 05 2020 17:49 GMT
#2467
how was i mean. i just speak facts. [image loading]
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 17:51 GMT
#2468
sorry for having the high standards of reading the thread and remembering to vote.
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 20:07 GMT
#2487
it's slam
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 22:48 GMT
#2490
Proverbs 13:5
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 23:42 GMT
#2494
kill two town members.
Complains about thread that almost successfully double lynched scum.
Just Yamato things
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iamperfection
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November 05 2020 23:46 GMT
#2496
[image loading]
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 15:34 GMT
#2505
dont forget to vote
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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November 06 2020 16:22 GMT
#2511
how many different themes are in this game
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 16:34 GMT
#2514
when you get saved by two separate medics [image loading]
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 16:50 GMT
#2520
On November 07 2020 01:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 01:34 iamperfection wrote:
when you get saved by two separate medics [image loading]

I call you MVP.

However please note Hapa caught me IMMEDIATELY.

why would i be mvp i didn't do anything.

Hapa claiming 3p when he isnt to avoid getting shot was pretty pog
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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November 06 2020 16:50 GMT
#2521
like i think the scums downfall was actions and then thread activity with the actions making lack of thread control even worse.
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:13 GMT
#2528
On November 07 2020 02:11 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 02:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:50 iamperfection wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:34 iamperfection wrote:
when you get saved by two separate medics [image loading]

I call you MVP.

However please note Hapa caught me IMMEDIATELY.

why would i be mvp i didn't do anything.

Hapa claiming 3p when he isnt to avoid getting shot was pretty pog

You were proving yourself town all the time

Hapa also gets MVP IMO and rayn wasn’t too shabby


Rayn had the best reads, despite getting overly hung up about Hapa and Yamato early on

well when you call everyone scum hard to be wrong
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November 06 2020 17:16 GMT
#2533
On November 07 2020 02:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 07 2020 02:11 Tictock wrote:
On November 07 2020 02:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:50 iamperfection wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 07 2020 01:34 iamperfection wrote:
when you get saved by two separate medics [image loading]

I call you MVP.

However please note Hapa caught me IMMEDIATELY.

why would i be mvp i didn't do anything.

Hapa claiming 3p when he isnt to avoid getting shot was pretty pog

You were proving yourself town all the time

Hapa also gets MVP IMO and rayn wasn’t too shabby


Rayn had the best reads, despite getting overly hung up about Hapa and Yamato early on

well when you call everyone scum hard to be wrong

Did he do this?

Maybe he did this. From scum perspective it felt like he pressured us mostly.

thats because you were scum. You probally got scared every time someone writes your name.
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:16 GMT
#2534
dirkzor really screwed himself out of a win there. Probably should have claimed more like hapa did.
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:19 GMT
#2539
i think you should have lied about not voting tick tock. Someone could have brought up their could be vote stealing mechanics or vote switching.
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:23 GMT
#2542
and hapa doubting the dumb town tell on grack smh
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:26 GMT
#2544
what happens at corruption level 5 ?
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:28 GMT
#2545
"Aperture Science KP cannot be redirected or inverted

All players who ever used or were targeted by the Database searches (""users"") will participate in a pick your power mafia role selection, choosing from roles from Pick Your Power: Intriguing. You will be told how many Users there are, but not their identities.

Within the first 24 hours of the day, each User must submit two numbers to the hosts, each between 1 and 24. The first number is you pick priority number (lower number equals higher priority), and the second number is a tiebreak number (again, lower is better). After the first 24 hours are up, you will be told where you are on the pick priority list.

Within the final 24 hours, each User must select a role from the PYP: Intriguing role list, and send their selection to the hosts, along with a statement saying whether or not you want to keep your current role, or opt to take the new one you have just selected. Roles will then be assigned to each User at the end of the day, in order of the pick priority list. If you pick a role selected by a User with higher priority than you (regardless of whether or not that User), you will be forced to keep your old role. If you select an unselected role and you previously opted to select it, you will receive the new role at the start of the night. Any previous win condition you had before remains unchanged.

"

lol
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:30 GMT
#2549
so wait why did dirk die ?
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 17:32 GMT
#2551
oh i see
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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November 06 2020 20:03 GMT
#2584
roleblock and kill him
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 20:14 GMT
#2588
oof so you could have activated ticktocks role giving an additional KP. that might have changed things
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 20:37 GMT
#2609
On November 07 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Gee gee.

Thanks for hosting Grey!

Yamato's role was a work of art. That alone made the game worth playing.

Mixed feelings about my own play. I definitely lost the thread toward the end, and I'm pretty happy that Rayn made the database play that he did. Themed games are not my strongsuit.

never trash dumb town tells again
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iamperfection
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November 06 2020 20:58 GMT
#2627
On November 07 2020 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the only thing you offended me with was when you copied my post and then called me plausible mafia after iamp called your post super good and my "unreadable" (which it wasnt). I didn't think you can be that stupid but i couldnt also think youre nmafia so i just raged out on both of you.

i never said unreadable i said better.

also it was clearly bothering you so i kept doing it.
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November 06 2020 23:37 GMT
#2650
On November 07 2020 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote:
Good game town!

I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.


Who are you?

Who are you?
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iamperfection
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November 07 2020 19:03 GMT
#2674
so the pollution in my role pm was a fake clue right?

It made me think there was 3p with a poisoner gimmick of some kind
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