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On September 21 2020 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:07 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote:I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time  .. -es I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t. I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do.. -es I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible. Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax.
I think there is a flaw here, have you read my posts of why Monadel could be mafia?
Ofc I dont mean Vivax is town either but to me is mostly a 50-50.
The problem with inactives and what I have learned in late games is that they are not exactly mafia for it.
Except chezinu who just came last minute to vote for rayn, which is what I am afraid mafia will do here.
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On September 21 2020 03:41 Number 4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:27 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote:I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time  .. -es I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer This comment is unfair. Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4? I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching. Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch. Huh... I dont know what to think of this post.
Please explain the conclusion you're drawing from the bolded?
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On September 21 2020 03:43 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:42 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote. -es Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information 
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
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On September 21 2020 03:48 Number 4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:43 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 03:42 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote. -es Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information  This is possibly the stranges thing you've said. 1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it. -es
Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
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On September 21 2020 03:44 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:41 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:27 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote:I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time  .. -es I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer This comment is unfair. Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4? I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching. Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch. Huh... I dont know what to think of this post. Please explain the conclusion you're drawing from the bolded?
You need to come up with your own conclusions dont follow just “he said this”, like Rayn was wrong of Damred, he is a doctor with no cc, mafia would not dare to cc because they already fake claimed cop, it is suicide specially when dadred reasons of why claiming at the end makes A LOT of sense, not because he picked n4 but because it makes sense that mafia wouldnt do it o change his subject.
We know rayn was not wrong with us but he was with dadred.
Might I ask you some stuff? Well I will ask anyways to engage.
Have you noticed shockey hasnt answered people but just play victim and fight with ever?
Why isn't he trying to solve the game? Like trying to see who is the other mafia, theories, etc.
IF YOU were the cop and YOU knew the other guy was faking it wouldnt you be SURE the other one is mafia? Shockey is saying we are not considering the no lynch but we do not need to consider it, shockey hasnt voted for us because...?????????????????
- cop
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On September 21 2020 03:55 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:48 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:43 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 03:42 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote. -es Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information  This is possibly the stranges thing you've said. 1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it. -es Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch. We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant 3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously. This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what?
3 town vs 2 mafia
I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario.
- cop
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On September 21 2020 03:55 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:48 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:43 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 03:42 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote. -es Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information  This is possibly the stranges thing you've said. 1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it. -es Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch. We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant 3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously. This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
If 1) is true then why not kill the scum? 2) is true which is exactly what makes 3) true.
Town losing a doctor for nothing when we already found mafia? I'm cutting a lot of slack friend because you're new but your logic is really flawed. How is it better for town if we let the doctor die, both cop claims live which puts us right back to this 'shock or 4 is scum', we waste an entire day.. Why?
-es
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Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
- cop
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Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
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On September 21 2020 04:05 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
- cop
Why is it a no no. Can you guys stop saying this and not backing it up.
Show me mechanically or whatever why it is a no no.
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On September 21 2020 04:03 Number 4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:55 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 03:48 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:43 Monadel wrote:On September 21 2020 03:42 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote. -es Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information  This is possibly the stranges thing you've said. 1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it. -es Here is my explanation. Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch. We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant 3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously. This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what? 3 town vs 2 mafia I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario. - cop
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On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either.
We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you?
-es
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On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 04:05 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
- cop Why is it a no no. Can you guys stop saying this and not backing it up. Show me mechanically or whatever why it is a no no. It's because at least we have a chance to be wrong. Give this day away no longer do we have it.
-es
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On September 21 2020 03:27 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote:I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time  .. -es I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer This comment is unfair. Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4? I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching. Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
Please don't be upset. I'm okay with your play here, but I don't see the game moving forward so I'd rather confirm what I'm already convinced of.
We can no lynch but nothing will change my mind. I've had my fair share of information to decide Shockey is mafia and I can't see how any other relevant information can be obtained in the next hours.
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@Hapa can we get vote count please?
-es
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I'm trip over my feet on the way to bed if I'm not getting to bed very soon r.r.
@ Vivax- play gosh darn it friend! @ Mona- please vote, we've made the reasons to do so obvious.
-es
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On September 21 2020 04:17 Number 4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view. Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either. We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you? -es
Yea, I already know you’re the confirmed mafia. And GB is your partner. If GB had been reading, he’ll see my discussion on what I think of the game so far.
I don’t mind no lynching. I’m not mafia.
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I also don’t mind USING my time to be able to continue building a case on yourself and Gb. Unlike you who and GB who are both so urgent to vote some one out.
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On September 21 2020 03:44 Number 4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 03:07 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote:I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time  .. -es I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t. I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do.. -es I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible. Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax. I think there is a flaw here, have you read my posts of why Monadel could be mafia? Ofc I dont mean Vivax is town either but to me is mostly a 50-50. The problem with inactives and what I have learned in late games is that they are not exactly mafia for it. Except chezinu who just came last minute to vote for rayn, which is what I am afraid mafia will do here.
It's not about his inactivity, it's about his behaviour.
I didn't read your posts about Monadel, I couldn't find it, if you could please direct me to them. I have limited internet connection during weekends, and I also have less time to play mafia, so. yeah...
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On September 21 2020 04:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2020 04:17 Number 4 wrote:On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view. Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either. We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you? -es Yea, I already know you’re the confirmed mafia. And GB is your partner. If GB had been reading, he’ll see my discussion on what I think of the game so far. I don’t mind no lynching. I’m not mafia.
You know I'm mafia and your not lynching me? You're win con says that makes you scum.
-es
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