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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 18 2020 16:23 GMT
#401
I don't really care to discuss what mafia would or wouldn't shoot.
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 18 2020 16:44 GMT
#402
Sorry I was acting up yesterday, between work yesterday and the game, I was stressed the fuck out. Going to catch up on the last few pages.
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 16:49 GMT
#403
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?

On September 18 2020 17:23 Number 4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote:
Ok. Let us end this.

Shock start talking .


This, is post #144 so you can read the transition.

Shockey claimed and rayn told him to shut up because the doc would protect him. Like no questions asked.

And ever came and said “Shock start talking”, going against town general plan.



You know that this means nothing but a breadcrumb right? It's exactly what I said in the beginning of the game. This is far from outing yourselves.

On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
1. Vivax : Probably reading this and frowning his face and thinking this game is confusing or mafia enjoying the mess. Null.

2. Shockeyy : His reaction obviously makes me think he is mafia so mafia.

3. Dadred : I don't know him that much, I think I have played with him once many many many years ago. Only thing I know is that he is one of the best mafia players or the best player ever here (according to rayn). And I know these two can read each other that makes me be a little be wary, on the other hand it had been years, I might go against rayn a bit here but he leans more town. Like 54% town?

4. GlowingBear: I am sorry NOT detective GB but I think you are mafia. You were kinda shaky in the beginning, I don’t think your soul is honest in the game. I can be wrong, but maybe you think Ever and me are town is to win Rayn’s trust. Not so sure. I was believing but then you said the cop shouldn’t be doc’d it is like ughhh

5. CopCake / Eversince: Forever town

6. Monadel : I think he is looking the game from a town perspective and it is what I would expect it to be. So, town.

8. Raynpelikoneet: Obs town.


1. Why would Vivax actively read the thread and not engage as either alignments?
2. His reaction? Or his CLAIM? Sometimes it seems you believe his claim and it's confusing as hell.
3. All you've said is "rayn believes this but I don't know haha he is probably more town than mafia". Any reason for why you think he is mafia?
4. Let me get this right. You think I'm mafia because I'm not being honest in this game? You think I faked believing you are town just to gain rayn's trust? Why would I do that?
6. This is the only read with a bit of "grounds" that you gave. I'd like you to talk more about the others
7. Like this one. I think rayn is town but obs town is kind of a stretch.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 16:53 GMT
#404
On September 19 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm caught up until this post but in the meantime I need GB to decipher this post, I don't understand this logic.

Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop?

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 05:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay sue me for it.


Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?

not really, but educate me pls


You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day
You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility
You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.

How about now?


If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not a cop you idiot.


I've went on his opening posts just to generate some discussion. I didn't really think I've caught on to something.I also didn't understand what he would expect with his question towards me.
Then, when we started bouncing opinions and I was understanding how the mechanics influence the game, it came to my mind that mafia needs to cop claim and that rayn knows that, and that he would immediately claim cop in order to gain credibility in his claim. He didn't, so he might've been town.
I'm adorable.
Number 4
Profile Joined September 2020
380 Posts
September 18 2020 16:53 GMT
#405
Where me as cop has called rayn mafia in this game?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 18 2020 16:58 GMT
#406
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:23 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote:
Ok. Let us end this.

Shock start talking .


This, is post #144 so you can read the transition.

Shockey claimed and rayn told him to shut up because the doc would protect him. Like no questions asked.

And ever came and said “Shock start talking”, going against town general plan.



You know that this means nothing but a breadcrumb right? It's exactly what I said in the beginning of the game. This is far from outing yourselves.

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
1. Vivax : Probably reading this and frowning his face and thinking this game is confusing or mafia enjoying the mess. Null.

2. Shockeyy : His reaction obviously makes me think he is mafia so mafia.

3. Dadred : I don't know him that much, I think I have played with him once many many many years ago. Only thing I know is that he is one of the best mafia players or the best player ever here (according to rayn). And I know these two can read each other that makes me be a little be wary, on the other hand it had been years, I might go against rayn a bit here but he leans more town. Like 54% town?

4. GlowingBear: I am sorry NOT detective GB but I think you are mafia. You were kinda shaky in the beginning, I don’t think your soul is honest in the game. I can be wrong, but maybe you think Ever and me are town is to win Rayn’s trust. Not so sure. I was believing but then you said the cop shouldn’t be doc’d it is like ughhh

5. CopCake / Eversince: Forever town

6. Monadel : I think he is looking the game from a town perspective and it is what I would expect it to be. So, town.

8. Raynpelikoneet: Obs town.


2. His reaction? Or his CLAIM? Sometimes it seems you believe his claim and it's confusing as hell.


Why do you think that is? It's painfully obvious. There has been multiple scum slips especially from TWO people.
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 16:58 GMT
#407
On September 19 2020 00:42 Vivax wrote:
Also that list post with town/not town looks excessively 'mimi I'm doing stuff' for how early it was.

Damdy + Mona giving off sneaky vibes, but that's about it for now.
Carrying onö.


ROFL this is so nitpicky
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 18 2020 16:58 GMT
#408
On September 18 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote:
Btw when I die, ask yourself only town this question.

Why would shockey Fake claim?

Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.


Exactly, why would I fake claim?
Life?
Number 4
Profile Joined September 2020
380 Posts
September 18 2020 16:59 GMT
#409
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?



On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:
But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims.
DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS

I hope the doctor reads this.



Am I dumb or something?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 16:59 GMT
#410
On September 19 2020 01:53 Number 4 wrote:
Where me as cop has called rayn mafia in this game?


? Where did I say that?
Anyway if you could address my list post in its entirety, it would be much appreciated
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 17:00 GMT
#411
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?



Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:
But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims.
DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS

I hope the doctor reads this.



Am I dumb or something?


There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 17:02 GMT
#412
On September 19 2020 01:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote:
Btw when I die, ask yourself only town this question.

Why would shockey Fake claim?

Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.


Exactly, why would I fake claim?


Also, if Number4 dies, if the claim is true, she will flip blue. We don't have to think much rofl
I'm adorable.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 18 2020 17:04 GMT
#413
On September 18 2020 15:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Nevermind LOL

DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED

I hope the doctor reads this.


Hey "Cop" nice reading.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 18 2020 17:05 GMT
#414
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote:
Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.

I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.

For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.

And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.

- cop


If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
Life?
Number 4
Profile Joined September 2020
380 Posts
September 18 2020 17:05 GMT
#415
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?



On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:
But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims.
DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS

I hope the doctor reads this.



Am I dumb or something?


There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.


Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.

And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.

Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.


Number 4
Profile Joined September 2020
380 Posts
September 18 2020 17:16 GMT
#416
On September 19 2020 02:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote:
Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.

I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.

For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.

And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.

- cop


If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.


I am taken. :p

Mega taken, super taken, I am owned, like a pokemon in a poke ball.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
September 18 2020 17:16 GMT
#417
On September 19 2020 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 01:16 Vivax wrote:

The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.


Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?

Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?

Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is?


This setup you can have doc follow cop every night but he can't heal himself afaik.
But makes sense to heal one of the claims if it's mylo off the bat. I didn't think of that, otherwise I'd say nah.

I do think it'd have been better for town to not dig up too much information in this phase since if anything it only helps mafia and we have a 72h day and plenty of time for that soon (reminder: IML). The only plus side to this night really is if one of the cop claims gets shot and healed, but that doesn't look likely to me.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 17:18 GMT
#418
On September 19 2020 02:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote:
Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.

I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.

For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.

And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.

- cop


If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.


~Doctor Seuss

On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote:
Glowingbear is wrong with what


Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.

Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.

Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.

- cop


Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.

Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk


Well say goodbye to your cop then.

- cop


I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside.
Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?



On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:
But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims.
DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS

I hope the doctor reads this.



Am I dumb or something?


There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.


Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.

And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.

Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.




I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.

Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
September 18 2020 17:18 GMT
#419
On September 19 2020 01:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm caught up until this post but in the meantime I need GB to decipher this post, I don't understand this logic.

Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop?

On September 18 2020 05:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay sue me for it.


Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?

not really, but educate me pls


You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day
You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility
You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.

How about now?


If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.

On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not a cop you idiot.


I've went on his opening posts just to generate some discussion. I didn't really think I've caught on to something.I also didn't understand what he would expect with his question towards me.
Then, when we started bouncing opinions and I was understanding how the mechanics influence the game, it came to my mind that mafia needs to cop claim and that rayn knows that, and that he would immediately claim cop in order to gain credibility in his claim. He didn't, so he might've been town.


I'm not sure I follow your metric here. I don't claim cop, ergo I'm town?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 18 2020 17:22 GMT
#420
On September 19 2020 02:16 Number 4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 02:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote:
Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.

I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.

For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.

And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.

- cop


If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.


I am taken. :p

Mega taken, super taken, I am owned, like a pokemon in a poke ball.


Modern slavery shouldn't be glorified. Nintendo supports animal abuse. Stop Japan.

On September 19 2020 02:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2020 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:16 Vivax wrote:

The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.


Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?

Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?

Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is?


This setup you can have doc follow cop every night but he can't heal himself afaik.
But makes sense to heal one of the claims if it's mylo off the bat. I didn't think of that, otherwise I'd say nah.

I do think it'd have been better for town to not dig up too much information in this phase since if anything it only helps mafia and we have a 72h day and plenty of time for that soon (reminder: IML). The only plus side to this night really is if one of the cop claims gets shot and healed, but that doesn't look likely to me.


We shouldn't be talking about this anymore. Mafia would discuss mechanics in their QT anyway. Understanding how the mechanic affects behavior is crucial for town, especially for the cop and for the doc. We only start to help mafia when we start to point out who the doc will heal specifically, and I don't think that is the case here (until now at least)
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