EPTWhy would shockey Fake claim?
Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.
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Number 4
380 Posts
Why would shockey Fake claim? Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him. | ||
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Monadel
110 Posts
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote: Well say goodbye to your cop then. - cop Can you quote the posts from ES where mafia shockey would have thought you guys were the cop -Vanilla Town | ||
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Number 4
380 Posts
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this. Shock start talking  .This, is post #144 so you can read the transition. Shockey claimed and rayn told him to shut up because the doc would protect him. Like no questions asked. And ever came and said “Shock start talking”, going against town general plan. | ||
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Monadel
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Number 4
380 Posts
On September 18 2020 18:16 Monadel wrote: So why did ES not counter claim rayn if they believed it I can’t answer that, like her point of view. For me, I didnt cc rayn inmediatly because I know he was joking (i read his not) and Rayn has a tendency to fake claim a lot, as town and as mafia. I think I posted that somewhere here. Like Rayn’s actions speak for themselves as town, I guess you agree with that with fake claiming or not. | ||
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Monadel
110 Posts
In probably off for the night everyone enjoy your normal time zone posting Rayn top town im real on the fence about cop claims | ||
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Number 4
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Number 4
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Number 4
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Number 4
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 . I'm take a bath.. ProIly bring critters in after. I'm eating dirt after that. | ||
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Number 4
380 Posts
He is always opportunistic. Evercop is town: rayn Gb asap says that he agrees with rayn and I am town. Doc don't protect the claims: monadel Gb asap says he agrees. He doesn't have opinions on his own. | ||
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Dadred
249 Posts
On September 18 2020 19:47 Number 4 wrote: Ok, I think GB is the other mafia. He is always opportunistic. Evercop is town: rayn Gb asap says that he agrees with rayn and I am town. Doc don't protect the claims: monadel Gb asap says he agrees. He doesn't have opinions on his own. I do like this post. If number 4 was scum what's the point of doing this type of work n0 instead of just putting everything towards shock. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop? On September 18 2020 05:48 GlowingBear wrote: You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town. How about now? If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'. On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
Damdy + Mona giving off sneaky vibes, but that's about it for now. Carrying onö. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out. I think we need to get a vote going starting D1 about which of the cops is gonna claim their check first (best play is to have the fake cop claim first obviously). I am pretty sure smart people figure out why. As for my reads i think the hydra is way more believable as a claimed cop than shockeyy is. Shockeyy was acting way too diplomatic with his claim, anyone who has played with shockeyy should think the same in my opinion. Basically: On September 18 2020 07:12 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting. and On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured. - cop posts there are pretty much what i think about the cop situation. This leads me to think Dadred is the other mafia. I think Dadred should know better than this: On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think.... I think this is super bullshit for anyone who has played with shockeyy. You have to understand that at the time this post came out me and GB were basically grilling the hydra for the "illogicalities" of their claim and i am sure it looked like (at least i WANTED to give that impression) that we think shockeyy is the real cop. It makes sense for other mafia to "join the bandwagon" to protect your mafia buddy when other people have started it already. That's pretty much all i have to say about Dadred. I think GB genuinely believes or believed when the claims happened, that it is NOT the correct play to claim for mafia. We had a discussion about it early in the game and i didn't feel like at all that GB is saying something he doesn't actually believe there. We can probably all agree that whoever is the fake cop has had a discussion about to claim or not in the scum QT. I don't think GB fits as mafia here for the reasons stated above. I don't think Monadel is driving any particular agenda here. Sure there can be a chance he is mafia but i dont really see it at least for now. Vivax hasn't posted and ironically that makes me think he is town, because well... mafia has discussed whether to claim or not in QT. Sure there is a chance that Vivax is indeed mafia but that would mean he is intentionally not posting at all and i don't really think Vivax does that even though he normally has huge problems posting as mafia.That's what i have for N0. Protect the cop, get checks, no-lynch, protect the cop again if doc alive, get more checks, lynch accordingly. | ||
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Number 4
380 Posts
I see the discussion being more of two active players than a non active. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On September 18 2020 06:20 GlowingBear wrote: Because his claim makes sense and yours doesn't, sorry. ES reaction was... weal compared to the hype you get when you catch mafia fakeclaiming. It makes more sense to realize mafia needs to fakeclaim and saying "ok we need to fakeclaim" ? | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
I think town never lynches into the cop claims initially but avoids outing the doc, mafia never shoots the cop and just tries to find the doc. So we just ignore the cop claims for now and just play standard mafia pretending the two claims aren't even in the game. Once the first checks start rolling in and we caught one mafia outside of the claims is when we decide which cop to lynch. I think sandbagging N0 as to which cop you believe is town makes sense? Isn't mafia more likely to just shoot townies who believe the actual cop to be the cop at this point? | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out. Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive? Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 19 2020 01:16 Vivax wrote: Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive? Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically? Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is? | ||
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