EPT[M][N] Holy Guardians - Cpt 3
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On July 08 2020 04:04 Tictock wrote: We on the same team again rayn? For some reason my intuition says we are looool  first impression said the same for me ^^ | ||
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If youre interested in shockeyy i find it a bit weird you arent interested in VE. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:47 Jockmcplop wrote: You don't think someone playing mafia two games in a row would try consciously to approach the game differently? Or did you mean different specifically in a townie kinda way? Yes, specifically in a townie kind of way. The thing i find a bit weird in your approach is that in case you're actually interested in VE (who had the total 180 approach on shockeyy than you did -- so basically you should), i dont really know why you're "harassing" shockeyy right now instead of him? Like shockeyy did what he did and his posting so far definitely needs explaining. Which is something shockeyy will do anyways when he returns from the hangover land. Or if he doesn't, he is probably mafia. It's like... You progressed on something that will come out regardless of you asking for it, and left something else just be. Aka, from my pov you focused something useless instead of something useful. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:59 Jockmcplop wrote: VE has already said he isn't going to post much on day 1 so i don't see how its more useful to go after him than shockeyy tbh. I dont care who posts how much. - shockeyy needs to explain his shit anyways - VE doesn't need to explain his shit unless someone asks to - Based on your posting you should want VE to explain his shit | ||
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Yes. He is killing the demons. | ||
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On July 09 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote: So is chez saying he's going to help you a towntell for him? I actually think it is. He doesnt tend to lie especially when roleplaying. I am not sure if other people caught the flavor "roleplay" between us but at least i am pretty sure Chezinu knows who i am and that translated to the real gameplay, he either doesnt know my alignment or wouldnt lie (imo) so in both of those scenarios he is town. | ||
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On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote: Completely forgot about this game. I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this? Yeah i care, but it has to wait until i get home from work. | ||
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On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote: Completely forgot about this game. I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this? I dont think so. Or well as if you dont know his alignment it might seem like that ofc. I still think the difference to this game is considerable. You just have to open his filter and see that in the last game he was kind of robotic and his posting was really "clean". Like even now when i read his filter from last game during this game i dont really know why i should call him mafia at least early on by his posting (tbh later on i didn't even read his posts ). But the stuff imo lacked emotion and in this game his posting feels completely different to me, there was never any "wow why does he say THIS here" kind of factors, you know like stuff based on feelings and just letting it out and not keeping things aside from "hard facts" close to chest (which i think is something mafia SHOULD do -- so you're not gonan run out of options regardless of your reads -- you just need to be good enough to reasonably explain yourself when a change of heart needs to happen).Basically he is posting way more "freely" feels way much relaxed than the last game and i dont think he would have called me town like that in case he was mafia here. | ||
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On July 09 2020 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why exactly am i town? On July 09 2020 03:40 CopCake wrote: You are posting a lot, not making excuses, etc. Can you elaborate more on this? When am i NOT posting a lot (even in the last game when at times i wanted to sleep instead of posting i was still probably the top poster easily in the game)? I am never making excuses as mafia. I think there are only two times ever that i have "intentionally afk'd" as mafia. Of course one of them was last game on D2 lynch but i am not sure that even counts since i didn't even know what was going on and about 80% of the reasoning of me not wanting to post (or even turn on the computer) was because i was really tired. | ||
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On July 09 2020 05:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like wtf are you even doing rayn? Why do you think I'm mafia? I dont really think you're mafia, but i have no reasons to think you're town. Like, i have absolutely no idea why you would think what you did. I don't know why you think Slam is mafia. I don't know why Shockeyy was "interested in the game" when you said he was, i don't know why you liked jock and shock and i don't know why you felt the need to say you liked shock there because you already thought he is town. | ||
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I just don't think he would do that as mafia. I also don't think that your case is as strong as let's say why Trfel is mafia. Sure it's something you can easily say looks like mafia doing by narrative (idk if i said that correctly but you know what i mean), but i just don't see it. | ||
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On July 09 2020 23:22 CopCake wrote: Ticktock Thinks VE used his post to vote for slam Shades Shockey Gives me a town pass in the middle of the dirk gently talk Votes for VE More shade at shockey Slam is town Cake is mafia because she speaks random shit but slam also does the same Nope. First i am gonna say something about this. I don't really think your case on TT is good at all. From what i see you're accusing him of the following things: (1) Last few posts she is fighting against Trfel being lynched because "he was inactive and town last game" yet here she has him as mafia (and this was after his post) as well as Chez. So basically the 2 most inactive ppl this game. (2) Her scumread on me is also really off. Like it reads more like she decided to push me and just keeps saying "I dont buy him being town" or "this feels off" but never explains. (1) I don't really think there is anything scummy in this train of thought? I mean like he is just saying what you did and i can easily see how someone thinks that makes another person mafia. I don't think it makes you mafia but that's what you did yourself and it IS contradictory whether you like it or not. (2) Really off or not but once again, that's what you did. I still have no clue of why you think TT is mafia besides "don't trust TT as town" (which doesn't really mean anything) and this post i quoted from you (which i understand none of). And him making a case on you. But the case is definitely not scummy. It can be wrong sure but it definitely does not make TT mafia. Him forgetting Chezinu is not scummy ever because as Jock said it doesn't even make any sense as mafia. Like there is no reason he should ever think he can gain something by lying about that as mafia regardeless of Chezinu's team. Another thing i wanted to talk about is Shockeyy. I don't really think Jock's case makes Shockeyy mafia. (I do though think it probably makes Jock town so something good there ). I think you're looking "similar" things in "wrong" perspective. Imo you cannot compare vote count analysis from D1 to other days (which you were doing) because you don't know any alignments, so basically the VCA D1 is a crapshot. Now you are right that it is indeed weird Shockeyy is doign that with ONE vote on several people, and i definitely would want to hear his logic behind this.However, aside fro mthis, i think how shockeyy handled the after-drunken-posting (when he returned) in a really townie way. I don't think he overplayed anything and basically shockeyy's jam D1 is that D1 is useless and he can't have any reads. I think he is playing "towards that" fairly "well", and it fits his town MO imo. I got a small nagging feeling about him actually having town reads so early but that's pretty much all that i think could possibly make shockeyy mafia. But yeah, let's play this a bit further: Shockeyy you said this: On July 09 2020 07:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: My current thoughts are: Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop VisceraEyes (1): Tictock Tictock (1): Copcake jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam One of these fuckers are mafia 100%. I meant the ones voting. So you think you are town (obviously), that leaves me, Chezinu and Trfel as the people who are not voting. Why cannot Trfel and Chezinu be mafia together (assuming you think i am town)? Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done. However i actually do think Trfel's post in itself looks like a mafia post. Basically i see Trfel as paerson who investigates things and asks questions because there is some sort of contradiction to his own thought process of how things should go and he tries to figure out what the person thinks and if it makes sense or not. See for example him questioning Cake last game at the start of the game. This post though: On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote: Completely forgot about this game. I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this? ...doesn't reall show any of this. First of all the whole question i nthe first place about TT is really stupid and shows no thinking behind it at all. Because TT was fucking mafia in the last game!!!! Trfel thinking TT was town last game doesn't mean shit because Trfel was WRONG and if TT is town this game, there FOR SURE is a difference in his play (regardless of if anyone can notice it or not at that point). Like the whole question feels like a throwaway thing based on no thinking at all. It just.... doesn't make any sense to me that THIS is what Trfel has to say when he comes and posts. Coming in late makes it more likely you make mistakes as mafia, and i think Trfel made on here. Also a smaller point is that yeah, as i said earlier, people who feel the need to tell that they forgot about the game starting (regardless of if it is true or not) are more likely to be mafia. That's a fact. No matter when you start posting there should be no reason for a townie to feel the need to explain why they haven't been posting so far. | ||
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I don't think Trfel's post is townie. I don't believe he doesn't investigate TT based on meta (based on his first question in game to me) but randomly does that on Slam. I think he is trying to find a lynch and not mafia. Shockeyy just voted a person who is his scumread's (Jock) suspect over someone else. | ||
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On July 08 2020 01:59 GlowingBear wrote: [...] When Lucca went to take his breakfast, he found out Fischer was also there. They sat on the same table and started chatting again. Suddenly, a man in a cape approached. His face couldn't be seen: "Lucca Gallo Ricci?" "Captain 3?" "Come with me." Fischer held Lucca by his arm. "Don't" "Who are you?" asked Captain "I'm fucking Fischer. And my friend is staying. "Lemme go, Fischer" "It's not safe, Lucca" "I won't repeat myself." Said Captain 3. "Get the hell outta here or I'll beat the shit out of you." Both Fischer and Captain sustained eye contact for a brief, intimidating moment. Then Captain 3 punched Fischer in the face, who fell on the ground, fainted. Captain took Lucca by his arm and started running. However, he was blocked by the creation of a Birdcage. Sentinel's hologram appeared and his voice echoed in the room[...] On July 08 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry Lucca he hit me On July 09 2020 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk if Captain or who did that, but we had a nice breakfast at least!! | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I feel terrible voting for slam, however, now that trfel was rolecop, it makes me suspect Jock and Tictock more to be the other half >:O Why not VE instead of let's say Jock? | ||
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Anyways, i don't think Slam should be considered as mafia at least before lylo. | ||
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I don't know really, i am not really reading too much into it atm. | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: BS then how did I guess Bamou? The flavor helped me pick him out. From my experience with mafia flavor is also part of the game. That hasn't been a thing for the last ten or so years. | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Lack of attention and a decent post by Jock, no real tangible excuse. I'm still at work I hit u after. If you can, could you tell which post by jock? | ||
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On July 10 2020 03:00 Tictock wrote: You said yourself Mafia would be willing to vote a teammate like Trfel off and get towncred, Cake did exactly that. No, that's not what i meant. Read again what i wrote. That was before Trfel got back and started posting. I don't think the towncred matters if your teammate gets lynched (if your team can prevent that -- especially with only 2 mafia). Otherwise mafia would always bus in every mini game D1. | ||
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On July 10 2020 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done. | ||
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On July 09 2020 17:15 Jockmcplop wrote: Slam susses me all day and then without explanation other than 'i can see it being trfel' just switches his vote. What is that? Why? This post VE? | ||
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On July 10 2020 05:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: I thought Jock voted for me? :O yeah i meant on the main wagons. | ||
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I dont think it really adds up. | ||
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On July 10 2020 16:02 Jockmcplop wrote: Basically after the last game I didn't wanna be the guy who lynched someone last second for bad reasons again, and i wasn't that sure of my reason for wanting slam dead. I also wasn't overly bothered about saving trfel, even though i was suspicious of his wagon. Who could this magically suspicious person in Trfel wagon be now???? Because i just can't see any from his pov. I just think this does not add up. | ||
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On July 12 2020 21:51 Jockmcplop wrote: if its for an inquisition, no thanks No it's not lol, you too know you effectively killed yourself in case youre mafia. ##unvote ##vote shockeyy | ||
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I don't think it was really a smart play for cake to vote Trfel instead of Slam on D1 if she was scum. But idk... The TT kill is really really weird and me myself saw it a possible attempt to frame Cake for the kill. The problem is that noone is trying to take advantage of that. Basically if Cake is mafia the game becomes harder for her as he pretty much eliminated a suspect that is going to be lynched over her anyways. I mean like, she only has to say "i hammered Trfel you didn't even vote for him" against TT and that will be enough like 99% of the time. However i am not completely sure this is how Cake thinks but what she just said in pretty much in line with this. | ||
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On July 12 2020 23:35 CopCake wrote: That a play to “frame cake” can never happen unless you decide to make it, you are the only person that know how good I can be as a “red role”, the times I have been mafia on TL I Have been terrible. I dont think that has anything to do with what i know or dont know, because noone here in this game knows what i know or dont know. I think that's a reasonably possible play for someone to try. | ||
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On July 12 2020 23:41 CopCake wrote: Not with the “I got tfrl lynched” card. Hard to pull off. The thing is if you did not vote for Trfel everything is hard to pull off. And everyone who voted for Trfel can just kill everyone else in the Trfel wagon beside themselves and win. | ||
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If there is anything scummy it's pretty much that he chose to vote for Slam instead of Trfel while his scumread Jock was having Slam as scumread. That sounded weird to me already back then because i think shockeyy is very very mechanics / votes based player and that just made me iffy. | ||
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On July 13 2020 00:13 Jockmcplop wrote: I was wondering why i was your first suspect  That's why i said "dumb". I dont mean dumb in literal way, because sometimes unexpected things are best things to do for mafia. I all depends on how other people react to them and imo that's the hard part of the game. Like a couple of games ago there was a game where i was coaching a newbie and he happened to be a jailkeeper. He jailed GB and when he told me that i literally had to delete my first impression in the coaching qt because i basically knew either either GB or both HF and Vivax had to be mafia. Well, HF and Vivax won the game uncontested. | ||
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On July 13 2020 00:10 CopCake wrote: Ok Rayn, let’s play a game. If someone from Tfrl’s wagon is mafia who is it? You or Slam. Probably you. | ||
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"Chezinu tries to play for the win even though he doesn't post much. If he just parks his vote on his teammate and basically afk's for the rest of the day (game) that would be really shitty towards his teammate". Basically i don't think there is any chance Chezinu would bus there. | ||
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Didn't you get the memo on D1? | ||
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I can tell you that Trfel would have not been lynched if i was mafia, believe me or not. I am just posting what i think. | ||
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On July 12 2020 23:47 CopCake wrote: Town would have lynched TT, shockey, jock, ve, so easy. On July 13 2020 00:54 CopCake wrote: What I want you to see is that the TT kill is not that dumb as you think it is. ????????????????? Why is killing TT wise? | ||
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On July 13 2020 01:00 Jockmcplop wrote: Sorry if you already explained but why are you so sure its not slam? yeah i dont get that either. | ||
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On July 10 2020 18:37 Alakaslam wrote: Whoa now Careful I may be ever present but I was gone allday And it is my scum meta to bus Like he literally even said this. | ||
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On July 13 2020 01:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: All of you are terrible at this game if you think I’m mafia. i dont know, why should i consider you as town and who should i consider as mafia instead? | ||
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I mean like at least personally i want to win the game clean if it's possible as mafia. Because it's the easiest way to win, the less you have to give town time the better. | ||
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On July 13 2020 01:22 Jockmcplop wrote: I was gonna say I didn't pay any attention to what trfel was saying when he was basically dead already. How about you stop saying stupid shit when youre town? Trfel wasn't dead until the very last second. | ||
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On July 13 2020 19:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Trfel help + Show Spoiler +  | ||
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On July 13 2020 02:45 Alakaslam wrote: He votes trfel throwaway and panics hard after. I was pretty sure he was town for being first to sus trfel but now I don’t think so | ||
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On July 13 2020 04:17 CopCake wrote: Ok I am kind of annoyed now because you should know by now that I am fucking town for fucking bringing up all the possible cases of why TT got killed. no | ||
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On July 13 2020 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: My kill list is: Slam Cake VE My kill list in order is actually this. Jock either dies in the next two nights or he is mafia. It's that simple, so i don't think we ever get to lynching VE anyways. I am honestly not sure which one of Cake / Slam i would want to lynch first. Funny thing is i don't really think anyone is mafia lol, but obviously that's impossible. So if i have to find the least townie person it has to be cake or slam (or jock). I really don't think Chezinu is mafia VE, and i don't really think you are either. | ||
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On July 13 2020 22:25 CopCake wrote: 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 That last minute lynch obviously killed my mafia partner that has a power role. and like one minute after follow it up by "yeah i could totally kill my mafia partner like that"?????????? | ||
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On July 13 2020 22:48 Jockmcplop wrote: And a question for everyone except rayn... Are we just assuming rayn is town? I struggle with reading him always but it seems like quite a deep assumption among everyone here and I admit to not really getting why. Educate me. I can educate you. I was the only person who ACTUALLY had a good reason to push lynch on Trfel. I mean bussing is one thing but even if i am bussing i dont actually want my teammate to die. For example i dont think as mafia i would have ever asked shockeyy to take a stance on Trfel vs Slam because regardless of my affiliation i thought shockeyy would vote for Trfel since you thought Slam is mafia and you were shockeyy's scumread. What i can say with 100% certainty is that i would have never ever killed TT N1. Never fucking ever would i have done that. Period. VE knows this and this is one of the reasons why VE is also town like with 99% certainty. | ||
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On July 14 2020 02:52 Jockmcplop wrote: Also the only way rayn could have 'played a perfect game' is if he's mafia because he voted town on day 2. No i voted for trfel and then you, both of which are mafia. And never teally considered anyone else before your claim. | ||
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You engineer a situation where you can paint me as 100% scum because you didn't kill me last night and then you don't vote for me so you can kill me on day 4, when your 'why aren't you dead yet?' argument has an extra day to settle in.[quote] Why should i vote for you if i am town? Like literally from your perspective you cannot even know if i am mafia if you're town so why should i vote for you if i am town? Why did i let you clear VE which you effectively did in case i am mafia? Do you think i think that's the best play for me as mafia? Why is that? [quote]Its so obvious though. Why would I kill TT night one? I wouldn't, you or chezinu are dangerous to me when i'm scum, i would have killed one of you.[/quote] Because (i am sorry) you do dumb shit. You do dumb shit and i knew shockeyy does dumb shit (like he killed me over hapa in that one game for no reason) and i thought cake could do dumb shit. Maybe slam. idk, i dont do dumb shit, someone did. [quote]Why would I go for you instead of slam now? That's insane if i'm mafia.[/quote] Are you really asking this? Like at least twice you have put up the "why would i do this as mafia" when you actually are mafia and did something you think people wouldn't think you'd do as mafia and that's exactly what you did. [quote]From a town perspective it makes much more sense because slam wouldn't start the day like he did if he's scum.[/QUOTE] I am playing the 1% that you're actually town, Slam is mafia if you're not. Go back to phase one on this post. I told you you are dead if you are mafia and yeah, if it's not you it's Slam and you're dead after the next night. I am not even gonna pretend i am not voting for you the next day if i am alive. You're the ONLY player in the game that has done even REMOTELY scummy shit now that VE is clear. And you're a fucking cop that ignores the godfather and for some miraculous reason you didn't die when there is not a roleblocker for mafia. Like seriously dude, even if you are town you SHOULD have claimed roleblocked and see what the mafia does with that. You lost, you can just concede. | ||
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On July 14 2020 03:11 Jockmcplop wrote: You engineer a situation where you can paint me as 100% scum because you didn't kill me last night and then you don't vote for me so you can kill me on day 4, when your 'why aren't you dead yet?' argument has an extra day to settle in. Why should i vote for you if i am town? Like literally from your perspective you cannot even know if i am mafia if you're town so why should i vote for you if i am town? Why did i let you clear VE which you effectively did in case i am mafia? Do you think i think that's the best play for me as mafia? Why is that? Its so obvious though. Why would I kill TT night one? I wouldn't, you or chezinu are dangerous to me when i'm scum, i would have killed one of you. Because (i am sorry) you do dumb shit. You do dumb shit and i knew shockeyy does dumb shit (like he killed me over hapa in that one game for no reason) and i thought cake could do dumb shit. Maybe slam. idk, i dont do dumb shit, someone did. Why would I go for you instead of slam now? That's insane if i'm mafia. Are you really asking this? Like at least twice you have put up the "why would i do this as mafia" when you actually are mafia and did something you think people wouldn't think you'd do as mafia and that's exactly what you did. From a town perspective it makes much more sense because slam wouldn't start the day like he did if he's scum. I am playing the 1% that you're actually town, Slam is mafia if you're not. Go back to phase one on this post. I told you you are dead if you are mafia and yeah, if it's not you it's Slam and you're dead after the next night. I am not even gonna pretend i am not voting for you the next day if i am alive. You're the ONLY player in the game that has done even REMOTELY scummy shit now that VE is clear. And you're a fucking cop that ignores the godfather and for some miraculous reason you didn't die when there is not a roleblocker for mafia. Like seriously dude, even if you are town you SHOULD have claimed roleblocked and see what the mafia does with that. You lost, you can just concede. | ||
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???????????????????????????????????????? you cleared him lol | ||
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i call bullshit. | ||
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And this is mostly host wifom because putting a godfather into this game eould be like huge fuck you to the town since all town roles actually work against the town like 50% of the time... but yeah oast game woth gb was also really too much stacked with the roles so i guess its not impossible or even unlike here, unfortunately. I dont think i have time to get votes on slam. I have to leave 1,5hours before deadline. I am on vacation and going to an escape room. I wish the game started four days earlier but apparently making a 9 player setup takes a week or so nowadays. | ||
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It sounds very convenient to me. But you guys do what you do, slam is gonna vote for chezinu anyways. | ||
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On July 20 2020 06:04 Hapahauli wrote: Also a good post, and honorable mention for best post in the game. It is worth looking at the D3 and LYLO lynches in more detail. Observe which players were trying to lynch their reads, often at the expense of their own safety (townies), and which players were trying to blindly stay alive. Jock's post here is an accurate depiction of how Chez played. Ironically this is not even true. D3 chezinu votes for anyone because he is the main lynch target, as townie aswell. And jock was the player who did what you described. The only reason jock voted for me was because he didnt want to have a lylo with rayn + chezinu. This is laughably idiotic for three reasons. One. Chezinu was his top scumread. Two, he could have lynched chezinu instead of me. Three, I already said i wont vote for jock because gb makes terrible setups and it makes him town. Basically jock was the only player who did a scummy self-preservation vote and even did that wrong. But hey he got the lylo he wanted so i guess he is happy now!! I really like slam but i think if i choose to play again i am not gonna want to play a game with someone who just does random shit and kind of keeds to just be eliminated unless you want mafia to have +1 player in town... it's just not fun. I mean like slam simply just voted against everything he said before, all game long. LOL. | ||
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Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia. I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went. | ||
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On July 21 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote: You are correct in a purely objective sense: it makes sense for a "townie" to do what he needs to do to survive. However, other town players (jock, VE, slam, etc.) were not purely "trying to survive" - they were pushing lynches, often by creating "binary" choices between themselves and their scumreads. These binary choices put the town players in serious danger. The actions by players who did this are strong town tells. Chez's play is absent of this. I raise the point of Chez's play to contrast it with how town players were acting, as opposed to calling Chez's play "scummy". Chez played objectively well, but nonethless, his play stands out. I disagree here. Jock wanted to lynch Chezinu. He voted for me only after VE said he is considering voting for slam (which he never did so if jock had stayed on his vote it doesnt matter where slam AND Chezinu vote, his #1 scumread still gets lynched). I also think pushing these "binary choices" are actually scum motivated. It's easy to say this or that as mafia (hell people can even agree with it) to make way for yourself to vote for the two "scummiest" people without reasoning it better, because the "town" agrees. Also jock did it 100% wrong in the end, do you agree? Just read lol... Slam should have been lynched. Like really, D2 i wanted to lunch him when jock claimed but i convinced myself otherwise because shockeyy didnt vote for mafia D1 (when i thought he should have) and slam did. I dare to say even if you are sure slam is town you win in lylo lynching him over me yhis game D3. VE was always town. I agree you cant tell eho night killed someone N1 but you can tell who didnt. Me and VE never shoot TT there, period. Maybe its vecause of experience that other people lack, but yeah, me and VE were always town after that nk. Slam was just shit and should have been lynched. I made a post about it and it was accurate. All game ve is mafia vote anyone who is not ve!??????? Fucking shit slam. At least try to do something... | ||
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On July 21 2020 03:58 Jockmcplop wrote: The only person who should have been lynched was chez because he was mafia. Don't forget the objective of the game, which pretty much ignores what you think is the 'correct' lynch in favor of lynching mafia. So you didnt lynch mafia D3 when you could decide on it? | ||
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You just played shit AND were wrong (because of your shit thing) | ||
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On July 21 2020 04:12 Jockmcplop wrote: Well you know what rayn you can have the forum to yourself and play by yourself and then maybe everyone playing will live up to your standards. Shut up and live up to your mistakes for once? I didnt have chezinu as mafia. Thats mine. You fucked up otherwise, why do you want to rub it on my face? Hi tracker, unccd after d2 lives and gets killed in lylo, sure you did everything right???? Fuck tou just fyck yoy. | ||
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Period. When you fuck with me i give what you deserve. | ||
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Which part of that "binary" he chose (because he surely chose one -- i can even point it out) is not bad or scummy? As i said he had the lylo he chose. I hope it was good | ||
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Hapa you too made a shit setup. You should feel bad about it imo. | ||
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He was the only scummy person in the game after trfel. | ||
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On July 21 2020 06:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: | ||
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