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On September 26 2019 02:33 Eywa- wrote: I agree to play instead of tubesock Should this hurt me in my feeling? I keed I keed....I think. | ||
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On September 26 2019 05:13 FreezingFoot wrote: Hi TS! Let's vote FF, shall we? ##Vote: FecalFeast But he revealed you to us! So far he’s the towniest town. | ||
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On September 26 2019 05:53 Eywa- wrote: I'm the towniest town, anyone who says otherwise is awful at mafia. Is this angle shooting? | ||
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I’ve liked a couple things Vivax has said. Part of me wants to town Eywa- but I’m pretty certain it would be trivial for mafia!Eeya- to do what he’s been doing. As far as I’m concerned everyone else is probably mafia. | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote: I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion. So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town. Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^. You don’t think he could be doing this as mafia? | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:33 Eywa- wrote: To be honest, there is a very strange practice on this site of wringing out the obvious... Like... It's consistent and I don't really understand it. Clearly we are on different levels. | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:36 Eywa- wrote: I did and everyone thought I was town, so I won. Then the next game everyone thought I was scum, so I lost as town despite immediately calling the scum team in a 3 player PoE. I feel pretty comfy keeping you null then. Carry on. | ||
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On September 28 2019 01:30 FreezingFoot wrote: Yes. He is too focused on bashing on Eywa instead of actually scum hunt. If you check their interaction, Branch opted to just defend himself from Eywa, but not actually justifying his actions. He chose to discredit Eywa, and keeps on doing this. He only appeared again in the forums once I voted him. It seems his only concern is surviving. And re-reading Eywa, although I dislike how he is playing, I could see his tunnel coming from a town perspective. He could be town. I think you’re wrong here. Eywa scummed him before he did anything, there’s no actions to defend. Eywa essentially did what rayn did when he was my mason partner (scumread hydra before he posted) and Eywa scumread rayn for it too. Branch also dropped a couple reads so wasn’t always defending himself. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:10 Vivax wrote: What is making you doubt that eywa is a good choice to place your vote then? In this 16 page game, he is one of like two people who has actually done anything. | ||
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I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:15 FreezingFoot wrote: I could be wrong, but I don't think I am now. One thing is to dismiss what Eywa said, the other is to use his whole day to just say how bad Eywa. As town, shouldn't he be trying to understand Eywa and then having a conclusion about his alignment? He never said he is town or mafia! Sure town “should” try to understand attackers alignment but I don’t think that happens very often. Usually it’s straight to OMGUS. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:24 FreezingFoot wrote: I don't think you need to think of teams now TS. Just vote the scummiest. Who's the scummiest? I’m not thinking of teams. I think that trio is more likely town. Eywa Of the wagons. I’d rather see boxer or copcake be lynched due POE. | ||
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Meant to put “her”. Waking up every three hours to feed a shitting crying machine destroys brain function. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:30 FreezingFoot wrote: I'm comfortable in calling CopCake town for now, boxerfred is being boxerfred and his opening sounded townie to me (gut feelings) I won't lynch these guys today I just reread boxer and still don’t remember what he did. But ok. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:33 CopCake wrote: Explain to me how i am mafia and where do you put FF? I have more gut feelings on other people are town and nothing for you. You haven’t done anything mafiaish but I don’t think you’ve done anything towny either. And I disagree with all your reads, so I don’t think we are sharing the same headspace. I could probably vote FF. Last game he tried to spam a bit to get something going as it was similar to this one. But he is on a boat and I believe him as I know he’s been getting married for quite a longtime. Otherwise he’s null. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:31 CopCake wrote: I mean Shockey feels fake as fuck about his “happiness” to see GB. Do they have history or something? I mean when I saw him the first thing that came to my mind was “ugh that dude who bussed his mafia partners to win” but since I am town I have to be impartial and he seems extremely laid back and towny, doing towny things without being too paranoid. Add the fact that he hasnt played in some time so seems like he is happy to get a role that doesnt make his ass work that much. Why would mafia fake enthusiasm for GB’s return? | ||
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Reasons to lynch Branch: Eywa was town and has a very high correct reads rate. There’s something else I’m going to look at Eywa said, I’ll dig it up. Boxer: policy, and has afk’ed before as mafia. Tube: I’ve been afk, and should be forced to play more, otherwise will always be a question. | ||
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On September 26 2019 05:29 Eywa- wrote: Is Angleshooting permitted? On September 27 2019 06:47 Eywa- wrote: Actually, that's not ENTIRELY true, yes he was Wolfy and you should scum read him for it, but I actually think he had a >rand chance of being scum before he posted which is very unfortunate for him. I think the angle shooting and him thinking Branch had a > random chance of being scum are tied together. Eywa scumread him before he said anything of any substance. | ||
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On September 29 2019 05:54 CopCake wrote: role blocker also. Isn’t that considered a save? | ||
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I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia. As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives? | ||
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None are moving the game forward. Everyone else seems to be trying. | ||
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I don’t think HF likes to vote policy/lurkers because it is too coinflippy. More than winning the game he enjoys being right on people. Well, that’s my theory anyway. So this is why he’s after GB. | ||
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Who’s side are you on? | ||
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On September 30 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote: Can you really say gb is an active player? He's posted about 3.times since I joined. It’s really relative I guess. I mean by semi normal standards the only actives are you and Cop. But he has at least a 3 page filter which most of us don’t. | ||
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On September 30 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote: Can you really say gb is an active player? He's posted about 3.times since I joined. Actually, this could be something. I don’t think Town!GB would avoid you. (If he actually is) | ||
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On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote: Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~? It seems natural towards you. I don’t see why he scumreads me over Boxerfred. | ||
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On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate. I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far, Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still. What specifically makes Vivax a good town read? | ||
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On September 30 2019 02:17 Vivax wrote: werent you complaining that he scumread you in a way that doesnt allow justification? why is it natural flow now? She’s voting Shockeyy so I think it’s asking for people who think it’s natural flow. | ||
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On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote: It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours. Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself. Hahahaha really? This game will all of a sudden blow up! Where’s your vote if it were in 2 hours? | ||
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On September 30 2019 06:21 Branch.AUT wrote: Tubesock do you still scumread copcake? If so, what are your reasons? No. I’m pretty sure I’ve said as much. ## Vote GB | ||
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If something changes you can change it. | ||
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Of course the shot would be rng’d if nothing was submitted. | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:00 FreezingFoot wrote: @TUBESOCK Am I Mafia? Why? @SHOCKEY Am I mafia? Why? Nope. Did you notice who I was voting for before you? What about what was going on in the thread when I voted you? | ||
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On October 01 2019 01:46 FreezingFoot wrote: NK is important actually because Holyflare claims he was saved and we have no idea how he knows that. Then you should pressure him “how” he knows as that would be good information. But going on and on about if the mafia team is afk or not doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and isn’t something we can learn until postgame. Maybe I missed it, but I haven’t seen you pressure or ask him how he knows, so I don’t believe you think it’s that important. HF could be vet, could be hunting for reactions, could be blue hunting or just being grandiose and trolly. | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:13 FreezingFoot wrote: No, I didn't. And I remember you voted me after Holyflare started pointing fingers at me. What changed to make you feel I'm town again? I was voting Boxerfred. Voting you was pretty clearly pressure to bring you back. | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:20 FreezingFoot wrote: Oh you already answered. Could you reason your reads? Some OMGUS, and how he pretty much only has me as his scumread but hasn’t done anything to push me or figure out my alignment at all. He simply omgus’ Copcake defensively and nothing else. He has t progressed the game forward in any way. Branch is deliberately being uncooperative. | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:19 Vivax wrote: So we just murdered a guy for taking care of his kid. And people wonder why nobody plays on TL mafia any more. It's a satanistic mess. Lol | ||
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I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:20 FreezingFoot wrote: I didn't realize that, but I can never see him thinking I'm not town in this situation I can see not clearing you for it. Especially if he already thinks you’re mafia. I disagree with it, much like I disagree with everything he’s said for the last couple cycles. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote: But that would only mean that GB is mafia and tried to save Shockey. Thing he has done in the past btw. I guess? But I think it’s more likely that if GB was mafia he would have voted and stayed, or never voted at all. | ||
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You’re sure GB isn’t mafia? You think HF is tracker? | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote: What do you mean the rest? The bit after TSVGB. That’s the only thing Branch seemed to see that I visited GB. Do the other letters mean anything? Are you hardclaiming watcher? | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:53 Holyflare wrote: Please claim jk I'm waiting for it :D Nope, already said I’m VT. | ||
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On October 02 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote: I may have a surprise for you though  What’s the surprise? | ||
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I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk. So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play. | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:58 Holyflare wrote: I can't mechanically leave you alive, just for my own fucking sanity. No worries! I’m just glad we don’t lose when I die. | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:03 Holyflare wrote: You know, sometimes I have existential moments where I ask, "What does it all mean?" I question everything about humanity, how people can think the way they do, the root causes of events and tragedies and just generally ask myself, how can things transpire in the way they do? Why can people not look at things critically and resolve matters with civility? How can a collective group be presented with evidence that says one thing that has been reviewed multiple times by experts but then believe in something one person said one time? Then I come to Team Liquid Mafia and read posts like this and I sit here in my chair at midnight just nodding, "Ah, this is how." Sometimes those experts are mafia though. | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:59 FreezingFoot wrote: I also think that HF has been absurd, but it’s hard to believe he is mafia. But it’s straightforward, if tubesock flips town we Lynch HF No way man. HF is town, I really doubt he could orchestrate that crumb as mafia. | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:14 Holyflare wrote: I'll be frank with you, I do think GB is extremely likely town, he's just annoying. I didn't think, or at least wasn't sure at all yesterday because I didn't know what happened or who visited whom for what reason. What do you mean you didn’t know who visited whom? | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:41 FreezingFoot wrote: So, you’re saying you definitely visited me? I believe I’m unknowing wanderer or whatever it’s called. | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:52 FreezingFoot wrote: Hahahaha no way you can think that, Tube. If you’re VT and HF doesn’t claim right away you just vote him 100% I can’t think that? Haha well I guess we will find out pretty soon won’t we? | ||
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On October 02 2019 10:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: It's not that soon, we still have a full day to figure something out. Why Vivax Tube? Your filter doesn't really state why you think Vivax is scum. This is a post I looked up to because you and Vivax both said the same thing about CopCake misreading, and making fake narratives. To me it seems like you consistently thought Vivax was town until recent? Why the change? I think CopCake misreads due to second language reasons and don’t believe she makes fake narratives. I wouldn’t have had her in my town pile in that paragraph if I did. Vivax is mostly POE. Although he usually is super town and vocal and that’s not him this game. | ||
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On October 02 2019 11:08 Holyflare wrote: Would anyone like to play a game?  + Show Spoiler [Play before playing!] + + Show Spoiler [Clue #1] + TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM + Show Spoiler [Clue #2] + It is nobler to declare oneself wrong than to insist on being right --especially when one is right. The game progresses as you get closer to the answer! Unwillingness to hardclaim, and the “I have a surprise for you” plus this makes me think HF is faking it. “Declare oneself wrong” (fakeclaim) even though he thinks I’m mafia. HF, you said Branch mostly got your crumb right. What exactly was it? | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:45 Vivax wrote: It seems like for once I have gotten a gift from my fellow players. They are lynching the guy I was asking to be lynched earlier for his semi-martyring. I also miss quite a bit of emotionality in Tubes posting. But that could be explained away by him being a fresh dad. And as we do with caring parents around here, we kill them with fire for the blood god. Joke aside, something is really rubbing me the wrong way here. People jump onto the guy I was scumreading previously because of unverified claims. It's too good to be true, but kinda tempting. When have I martyred? My play has been described as “comically unemotional” by more than one player in my past games. You only scumread me because I don’t have any hip reads this game. | ||
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Kinda hilarious play. I don’t think mafia!HF would have done it. I’ve seen town!HF do something like this a few times. | ||
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It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this. But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:23 Branch.AUT wrote: Copcake, what does it take for you to stop this immense tunnel on shockeyy? Probably for Shockeyy to do something towny. So far he’s “uh I’m town yo!” | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:28 Branch.AUT wrote: He actively scumhunted on d2. He even accepted getting lynched to keep his vote on his top scumread. What else could he do? Where did he scum hunt? | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:31 Branch.AUT wrote: Ok day 2. I have already read it, Im not doing it again for you. Because you can’t because he fucking didn’t. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:40 Branch.AUT wrote: So instead of participating in the game, and playing with town. Youre reversing the burden of proof, until someone CONVINCES you shockeyy is town (=go townhunting). Your action divides attention from an actual scum hunt, because what? He judged you differently than anothwr person on the same facts? Thats prerty fucking scummy. Or being a four year old. Your pick I guess Actually you are wrong. She’s done a big case and brought up other points. She is not the 4 year old. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:43 Branch.AUT wrote: Read it, make up your own mind. Stop relying on me to think for you. Thanks. Are you reading at all? How on earth is the take away that I’m relying on you of all people to think? Honest question. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:53 FreezingFoot wrote: 1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night. 2) To gain towncred He claims blue truthfully and falsely fairly often at night. It could be for towncred, but I think he had plenty already and I don’t think it’s worth not killing 2 people with. Unless Shockeyy is mafia. Which I am warm too. If I move from Vivax it’ll be to Shockeyy. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:39 FreezingFoot wrote: I don’t get why you’re upset, we are lynching your main scum read. You don want to lynch shocked anymore? Read page 65. | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:50 Holyflare wrote: Branch should rng between saving me and offensively rbing between gb/tube/shockey/vivax This. | ||
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On October 03 2019 10:22 CopCake wrote: Yes, like I want to lynch Shockey But then I got called childish for having a strong read and asking you questions. So I am like 🤷🏽♀️ All will lost. I will sheep you. I’m sorry one player had that effect. From my perspective it says more about the person who said that than you. You who cased and put a lot of effort into the evidence that Shockeyy is mafia, and he somehow thinks it’s on you to find the evidence he’s innocent as if you haven’t looked. For what it’s worth, I find what you say useful and valuable to the game. | ||
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On October 03 2019 13:35 Holyflare wrote: Another mafia gb ploy. Make me so sleep deprived I can't get him lynched. Or a TL Mafia ploy so you go to work sleep deprived, so you can mislawyer stuff get fired and we can keep you playing forever. | ||
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It’s day 3 and Vivax has done absolutely nothing. There is zero chance in any world where HF does what he did yesterday and Vivax stays silent as town. Zero freaking chance. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote: I have scaling scum reads though. Gb top Tube Vivax Shockey Why am I above Vivax? Why am I there at all? After D1 you seemed to “not hate” what I’ve said. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:45 CopCake wrote: If we lynch GB and he flips town... Are you ok with being the next lynch or would it be just a shit read? If GB flips town who is the mafia by poe? makes sense he'd just go down the line right? | ||
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On September 05 2019 23:16 Grackaroni wrote: In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.) If only one Roleblocker is roleblocked, then the roleblocked Roleblocker's action will not go through. (Suppose the Town Roleblocker/Jailkeeper has roleblocked the Mafia Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked a Cop. Then the Mafia Roleblocker's action will not process and the Cop will get a check.) Town can no lynch Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. If HF and Branch are actually blue, why would mafia that has a living RBer keep HF alive? Further, rbing anyone other than Branch allows for him to possibly jk whomever is carrying the kill. There’s no way competent mafia would risk that. I’d RB Branch for days and kill people who are actually posting. ##Vote: Holyflare | ||
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Holyflare if you are town, you are far more dangerous than Branch. There’s no comparison. | ||
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On October 05 2019 04:26 Holyflare wrote: If you had to sum up the candidates that have been talked about being lynched by people over the night, who are they Tubesock? Essentially everyone except Branch. Shockeyy the most. | ||
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And to be fair, CopCake can’t get her lynch, I can’t, Shockeyy can’t and I’m pretty sure Vivax can’t either. So I don’t see why they would keep you alive as you’ve basically called everyone mafia in the last day or two. So right now you’re unpredictable which is more dangerous if you were town. | ||
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On October 05 2019 04:55 Vivax wrote: Tube if I'm mafia because HF hasn't been scumreading me, why is your best approach that you flip him first and not me? I'm pretty sure you were much more confident that I was mafia than him, besides, that association read is lazy as fuck. I think it’s possible you’re just being lazy town. I feel stronger about HF. Which association read are you talking about? | ||
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On October 05 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote: Tube did you scum read shockey last cycle? Yes. Still do. | ||
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On October 05 2019 06:20 CopCake wrote: Where can I see my past games? I want to prove how annoying I am with night actions. Second post of the TL Mafia Database. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17349384 | ||
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I think you’re more likely tho. | ||
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And how can you say I’m hypocritical by saying you defended Vivax implying you’re mafia with him, and the only person you’re mafia with is Shockeyy? How does that logic worth. I’ve said many times it could be shockeyy or Vivax with you. And it isn’t just nk wifom. I don’t believe there’s 2 blues in 9 player game. You also haven’t done anything mafia HF wouldn’t also be able to do. Your claim was far more elaborate than town HF would bother with. Mafia!HF needs an elaborate claim. You constantly claim I don’t buy for a second that town!HF would say “I had to make it elaborate so town would accept it” | ||
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Bleh, don’t really know. I’m only positive CopCake is town. | ||
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On October 06 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote: Hahaha! Well you are a new dad? I imagine having a baby is fun and tons of work :p Funny the baby is fairly easy. Just wakes up every 3 hours to eat. The exhausting thing is the family that’s been around. | ||
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On October 07 2019 01:01 Holyflare wrote: Is this some great bait so we don't vote you??? what I won’t blame you if you did. But no it’s no great bait. I have to convince the one town player within two players who basically gave up. I don’t think that will happen. | ||
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I was thinking that claim was a little too elaborate hahaha Not sure even if I played more I could have done anything. My D1s are always such shit | ||
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