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On July 13 2019 09:11 Eywa- wrote: Tubesock is mafia Fact. | ||
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I'm actually sad about iNcontroL. Binging on all the videos though. Good stuff from the community. I see Coag folded from all that pressure he got. 1 mafais down. | ||
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On July 23 2019 15:03 Tubesock wrote: Fecalfeast's music videos I mean.This has been my jam for awhile. Not much on the metal screaming, but I would like the karaoke version of most of them. | ||
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I like FF though. He seemed genuinely concerned at the slow pace of the game in the first couple pages. And is spot on with the BS call on Nosmurf. I really hated the list post the Hydra did. @meapak. Why do you think Vivax is ok? or the Hydra? What's decidedly mafia about FF? I disagree on all three accounts, so would like to know what you think about it. | ||
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On July 24 2019 07:56 Coagulation wrote: No one has any fucking clue in the slightest as to who is mafia unless they ARE mafia by design. Anyone posting anything to the contrary is completely full of shit. True, but is the game soo....yeah. People just want you to post. You only post "I am mafia" and don't do anything then well you're probably mafia. If you post that and then do stuff, people won't really care you claimed mafia in the beginning. Do you have any opinions on any of the players yet? If not how are you going to choose your lynch? | ||
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On July 24 2019 08:05 Koshi wrote: Not answering is agreeing Good night all. I'm not seeing the raynp hate. because he didn't like HF's Pandain confusion? | ||
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On July 24 2019 08:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ahh intelligent conversation, this is nice. The Hydra: I liked this post here This is almost exactly how I was feeling about the game at this point although I think they are being incredibly lenient on HF. Hydras are tough to read by nature so I understand how the reflex response would be to want them gone quickly however not only do I think there are better targets, at least one of the heads is seeing things in a similar light to me. Vivax: He soft townreads rayn and dislikes Coag's first post. He doesn't have a lot of activity but what he does have I agree with. Which stands in sharp contrast to the final person. FF: Aside from the spam which is annoying, FF has a few early posts which stick out: Similarly to what I said I didn't like about HF, I hate people who passive aggressively complain about thread atmosphere. The tone is also incredibly wishy washy. WIFOM Pointless suspicion with no supporting evidence. Easily answered spam question. His only real substantial post is about....... drum roll.... lynching lurkers. Which is always a super easy topic for scum to discuss because it doesn't require calling anybody out based on evidence, and usually ends up with a townie lynch. The thing about the list post that bugged me is that it's pretty meaningless. Like I agree with Coag actually about early game (actually I think all of D1 is blind guessing and acting tough or whatever). This list has that "well it's early game so nothing is concrete" tone to it. Which is fine BUT this early sure seems like a attempt to look try hard for town points. That after 24 hours or so maybe Bugs hasn't responded in their QT or whatever and Jocks thinks he is on his own. Town!Jock probably wouldn't care too much and just be active knowing that his townlight will shine. I think a mafia!Jock would be quicker to go back on his "I'm going to only post reads after I deliberate with Bugs" and post "productive" content. I guess I just liked FF's tone. His play is in his mafia range sure. But I guess I just really didn't like the Hydra's action. | ||
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I'm not lynching HF, Koshi, or raynp today. Unless they do something that ruffles my feathers. But I do think the Hydra is best chance for mafia. | ||
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So raynp is scum because he’s reading literally and missed sarcasm so must be nit picking? Do I have that right? | ||
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So this isn’t a sarcastic response to rayn, but you’re pointing out to the thread rayn is using scum strategy? If that’s your case then I just disagree. | ||
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On July 24 2019 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot to respond to this. I love a good 10 minute stoner ass guitar song, thank you. first an instrumental from a band that very much uses "metal screaming" I think you'd enjoy: Second, at what point does a sing become a scream? Is this just a gruff singing voice? I'd like to think we can agree that this is not screaming at least. + Show Spoiler + What about this? I imagine the chorus could be a scream, but I'm talking about the verses. + Show Spoiler + Now, this song is where I believe you would consider it 'metal screaming' but I would like to know why. The lyrics are completely understandable and the tone of voice is harmonious with the notes played on the instruments. + Show Spoiler + Also uh If you don;t listen to all those songs you're mafia... or something to keep this game related. Cool I’ll watch these tomorrow when the wife won’t murder me. I like a bit of mastodon so I probably like that one you posted. I also like some Opeth and don’t really mind when they scream. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:38 NoSmurfHere wrote: Immediate gut reactions: Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one. Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range. Vivax - nothingburger Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude. FF - dunno Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa. rayn - waiting to see on this one. Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then. Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move. J This was 21 hours ago. So, basically first half of the cycle. This is after he said no reads posts until deliberating with Bugs. This entire post is fluff. Did anyone like Koshi's first post? I doubt anyone say any redeeming value in it either. You can say that about almost everyone in the game for most games. So that's a nothingburger. He didn't like how HF tried to dumbclaim his way to town, but then eosn't arrive anywhere with it. It's convoluted for mafia but in HF's mafia range. Ok, that's a nothingburger statement too. Vivax - nothingburger, well he said it best. Saying V is a nothingburger leaves the rest of us with nothing. It would have at least said something if Jock then said Vivax being a nothingburger is most likely mafia. That would be substantial, and useful for town. Coag - of course scumclaims suck. He got heat for it immediately too. So this is a useless comment from town. FF - dunno. More nothingburger. Why not have a line about Chezinu and Alakaslam? They both are most likely similiar as in complete tossups. Why include FF? Feels like it's easier to later throw shade on FF than succomb to the law of Brown or Chupazi. Eywa - quickly scumreading someone isn't scummy. But apparently it is for Jock, so why isn't HF scumread too? rayn - he just finished a shitfight and has no read??? From the tone I would think he would scumread him. That isn't neccessarily scummy, but yet another player listed with zero information for town. This entire post is fluffy fluff. What is the purpose of it? To give town his reactions? How did any of them help town? | ||
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On July 25 2019 00:13 Eywa- wrote: Hmm... The counter wagon is super strong... I WONDER... Maybe you're just wrong. | ||
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On July 24 2019 17:14 NoSmurfHere wrote: #386 is Jock, sign your posts buddy Slam can you stop posting every thought please? I literally am posting this now because I read page 19 or whatever it was and I am surprised there isn’t a mod action for that. In fact if you as much as double post again I will make it my goal to include you as a lynch suspect in every post I make (and hopefully get you killed) if the hosts don’t get to you first because I have no desire to play in a game like the last one ever again. -wherebugsgo Slam, don't listen to this guy. I much rather you post your thoughts as you play. Bugs can't kill you. | ||
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On July 25 2019 00:26 Koshi wrote: So many words to say nothing. By your own definition you are mafia. Go vote yourself. Instead of: "This post from the hydra has no value" You make a word wall. Go vote for yourself. Bring it. I was explaining to Meap as he asked. | ||
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On July 25 2019 00:28 Koshi wrote: So many words just to shade a player typing out his thoughts. Lol Only proof of mafia mindset makes sopebody mafia. Typing fluffy posts doesnt mean anything if it just randomly happened. Sure if i believed it was random then you would be right. Then fluffy posts could be from Town. I don't think it was random. I think it was to show some productivity. If that wasn't obvious. | ||
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On July 24 2019 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot to respond to this. I love a good 10 minute stoner ass guitar song, thank you. first an instrumental from a band that very much uses "metal screaming" I think you'd enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odmkVoDn8V4 Second, at what point does a sing become a scream? Is this just a gruff singing voice? I'd like to think we can agree that this is not screaming at least. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEN1YKL6iEI What about this? I imagine the chorus could be a scream, but I'm talking about the verses. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek Now, this song is where I believe you would consider it 'metal screaming' but I would like to know why. The lyrics are completely understandable and the tone of voice is harmonious with the notes played on the instruments. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-H_8PsHbo8 Also uh If you don;t listen to all those songs you're mafia... or something to keep this game related. Fallujah - It truly amazes me how fast people can play. That dude on the drums is sick. I can't even hear that fast. I really liked the Highway song. It reminds me of Lemmy's singing or even Jason Newsted's. Probably my favorite of the bunch. I think the last one was technically screaming, but I guess I just don't like the screaming where you can't understand it, and it's just essentially the same low note growl that you can place on any song. So it's tough to hear much difference. But that is of course coming from someone who doesn't listen to much of it, so I can't hear the intricacies. I appreciate how the music has melody and his voice follows it. I prefer that to some songs which seem like they're examples of just speed. Mafia stuff...I totally respect if you want to vote rayn for being an asshole the first pages. I think that's the only real viable reason to vote him. I still think he's town, but you do you (Koshi). I can be convinced to vote Meap if it means saving rayn. I will admit that I think I'm just digging my heels in reaction to the rayn is scum team. But I'm not ignoring my feelings. And my feeling is that rayn is town. | ||
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Yeah Bugs I’ll scumread you for shutting down a player for posting 25 times in a row when it’s a very slow game. It wasn’t like anyone else was around, and You should know that Slam isn’t exactly a high post count player, so shutting him down hurts town. I doubt it took you anymore time to read those 25 posts than it would have if it was all in one. I think the shade towards FF and Meap post flip are scummy. | ||
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On July 26 2019 05:47 NoSmurfHere wrote: Mason please claim now. I am pretty sure I already know who it is  Hehe stupid mafia couldn’t even guess who it is hehe neener neener Right now I’m trying to narrow down my suspects list. Top of the list: FF Slam Chezinu Coag I have a couple other players I’m keeping an eye on (lol Pandain) but I want to wait it out to give them the opportunity to do something useful. In 24 hours if no usefulness is demonstrated I’d be fine with killing people on my (atm non-public) watchlist as well. -wherebugsgo I’m against the FF lynch. I’m fine with his eod. There wasn’t a time where him voting NSH would have swung the lynch to NSH instead of rayn. So him voting someone who he thought was more scummy makes me feel better about him. I won’t vote slam because he “spammed” during the off hours in a game where even after a full cycle we haven’t hit page 30. Like seriously. He is actually posting and making some sense and being transparent. Now if your argument was “a reasonable and coherent Alakaslam is mafia because he tries harder then that would be a good argument I guess. I just don’t think that is the case this game. Chez. Well I could vote Chez off the island. I don’t think he’s readable. Coagulation. I don’t think he will shine brightly as town, so will always be a question. I do think I’ve agreed with everything he’s said though. So he has some towny points there. | ||
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On July 26 2019 05:49 Eywa- wrote: So, I think we should be lynching Meapak_Ziphh today. I imagine the scum team isn't super strong based on the night kill. This actually made me laugh. If the team was HF, Bugs, and Koshi or Pandain (I think I’ve heard he’s a good scum) then why wouldn’t they kill Vivax? They certainly wouldn’t kill you. You lead the wagon pretty convincingly into Mason rayn and if Meap is town are pretty likely to kill him too. So you’d be great to keep around. | ||
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On July 26 2019 06:47 Alakaslam wrote: What a short read. He suspected Pandain and HF mostly. If he is killed this early, I tend to think he was on the right track. See subsequent vote in vote thread. If folks want a counter wagon, it should be me I think so that my statements can warrant a reread when I am gone. Because then y’all will realize: 1. I was town, and knew Rayn was too 2. That I was playing pretty carefully and pretty attentively 3. That though I couldn’t explain why, I was right on Rayn and am semi- likely to be right on other reads by EOD D2. If Hf vs Pandain well idk I somehow feel they aren’t BOTH scum. What’s amazing to me is how little people are talking about HF. I don’t know what to make of it. I’ve never seen it before. I’d also be fine lynching Pandain. | ||
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On July 25 2019 23:56 Chezinu wrote: It looks like there are at least two people that want me to address why I am so mafia. Well, you see the question asked is not a good one. For it is built upon an assumption that is false. In order to explain why I am so mafia, I would have to have a greater alignment to mafia than town. The "so" assumes that I have a greater amount of mafia than they thought should be my baseline. Here I am assuming the baseline to be brown, which would mean they think my color is tinted more red than green. Ryan asked what my color was before he left us. Now two individuals are trying to infer my color through their prejudice. They asked a question in a colorist why. They assumed my color without asking. You see Ryan asked about my color. These two assumed my color.. big difference. Who do you think is red? Although I’m hesitant to ask because I know you often see blue as red too, but still. | ||
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On July 26 2019 07:02 Eywa- wrote: Pandain is uderly forgettable, so it could be him. I agree. I just read his filter and I still can’t remember what he said. | ||
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On July 26 2019 07:03 NoSmurfHere wrote: Cool, we found scum. Vivax offhand mentioned wanting to look into HF -> slam is trying to stretch this as if he was really on the right track. No way anyone can tell and an offhand comment is not worth significant effort. Newsflash: townies get shot by mafia all the time for all sorts of reasons. I personally think mafia would have gone mason partner hunting last night to avoid having a confirmed townie, but I’m actually a good scum player and whoever is scum in this game (you?) are probably not as good as me at scum (lololol I’m only half seriously being pretentious here, die scum) Lastly slam conveniently tries to point to Vivax’s suspicion of HF and Pandain but: 1. The post mostly focuses on defending himself and is preemptively making himself the “counter wagon” even though there should be no reason for a townie who just said they’d reread the guy shot last night to suddenly randomly defend themselves before anyone has placed a single vote. 2. On HF vs Pandain slam says he thinks both of them can’t be scum yet says absolutely nothing about which one he actually thinks is scum. At odds with the fact that he believes Vivax was on the right track. Surely if slam’s reads are as correct as he believes he should find it easy to point out to us which one of us his reads we should be sheeping and why. If slam believes Vivax was right then why not just consolidate to HF & Pandain for the day??? Unless of course slam is scum and knows neither of them are actually scum already and is hedging his bet here that we haven’t caught him. -wherebugsgo You are no student of Chupazi. | ||
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Secondly, saying both HF and Pandain may not be mafia probably has more to do with the reality that scumreads are often wrong. Not a lot of people have the same confidence that Eywa- was showing. | ||
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On July 26 2019 07:09 Koshi wrote: 0% chance slam is mafia. If you think so you shoot up in my mafia list so high kites would be jealous. I’m starting to like you. | ||
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On July 26 2019 07:16 NoSmurfHere wrote: Do you actually have a preference right now between HF and Pandain or is everyone just gonna say they think they meet good lynches and then explain nothing? I’d give it about 24 hours personally before I start considering killing either of them but I agree on principle that HF & Pandain are not bad leads, especially if all of Coag & FF & Chezinu are town (or even two out of three, which is fairly likely) I want to see more opinions on this list of players: FF Coag Chezinu HF Pandain As at least with slam the opinions are already fairly polarized. In my case it’s just a conditional read. -wherebugsgo My way of reading HF is essentially he’s mafia until he proves himself town by doing something that makes life for mafia!HF harder for zero reason. But it requires time and I don’t mind giving him days because I know he’s busy. I also am not that afraid of a mafia HF running around though. He gets a lot of heat every game. Except this one, which to me is interesting. My preference is Pandain (between him and HF). Although I still think you’re mafia but I’m willing to watch you work. | ||
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On July 26 2019 06:41 Alakaslam wrote: Will filter Vivax On July 26 2019 06:47 Alakaslam wrote: What a short read. He suspected Pandain and HF mostly. If he is killed this early, I tend to think he was on the right track. See subsequent vote in vote thread. If folks want a counter wagon, it should be me I think so that my statements can warrant a reread when I am gone. Because then y’all will realize: 1. I was town, and knew Rayn was too 2. That I was playing pretty carefully and pretty attentively 3. That though I couldn’t explain why, I was right on Rayn and am semi- likely to be right on other reads by EOD D2. If Hf vs Pandain well idk I somehow feel they aren’t BOTH scum. It's clear if you look at both these posts as one, that Slam is clearly giving weight to Vivax's filter because of hte night kill. A Vivax kill is pretty weird as he wasn't posting so was definitely a misslynchable target. It's reasonable to think that Vivax was killed due to being correct. And also reasonable for Slam to doubt Vivax' being correct on BOTH. To me this makes Slam more town. I don't see the mistaken scumclaim. | ||
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On July 26 2019 09:34 Fecalfeast wrote: tube who are you killing today I'll probably follow you 1. NoSmurfHere 2. Pandain????? I don't think Meap is scum. I didn't mind anything he wrote. Like his thing on HF was true. It doesn't make HF scum though cause well HF messes up details pretty often as town. And as HF correctly pointed it, it didn't really matter (this concerns the timeline of his Palmar/Pandain confusion). Also, I'm super distrusting of Eywa- right now, and she went hogwild on meap is scum after his first and only post in the game. So, hahaha as terrible as it seems, meap gets town points for that. I want to flesh out why everyone (including myself) thinks Ewya- is town. For me it was just her zeal. But I have pretty much disagreed on everything she has said except one thing that was minor and I can't remember it. | ||
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The only time I remember playing or reading a game he was in, he was town but I was certain he was scum. This game is completely forgettable. So, I guess that could be scum points. | ||
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On July 26 2019 10:45 Chezinu wrote: HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT A GAME With CHEZINU IS FORGETTABLE!!!!! AND COMPLETELY FOR THAT MATTER!!! #Vote Tubesock Hashtag don't forget this game. to be fair I meant Pandain is forgettable this game. English is hard.But thank you for noticing me. What are your brown eyes seeing? | ||
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On July 26 2019 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I could be on board with this if something changes my slam read. I think Pandain was scum in the game back in February and I think he lurked the shit out of that one too. Ok let's kill Pandain. Your points on Alakaslam have been true. The problem with it though is he actively changes his game. There was a time for sure that he tried harder as mafia. I think it's no longer a good metric now because he has matured, and that the atmosphere since TL's last mafia game ever is more conducive for him to actually play like he wants. Like Onegu he has tried to play seriously and has been punished for it. So, I think he's trying anew. I could be way off. I also like what he's written. I also believed that rayn would flip town. I have made that exact post he did when I was town. I've been killed for TMI for it also. Like three times I've been miss lynched for "TMI". Kinda hilarious. I like that he is genuinely trying to be transparent. He is also paranoid of people. He's unsure of his HF read. Not waffling on HF's alignment is crazy. Flat crazy. FF didn't scumclaim. I'm too lazy to look for it, but he has made similiar statements before when he has a strong townread. It's a well I've been fooled before. have you not read someone mafia person as strong town? If Bugs is as good as he says he is, then I'm certain that people have done that to him too. Saying it is a scumclaim is disrespecting my scumplay. Which I don't mind, I like that none of you remember how I play as town or mafia. Works great. | ||
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So, saying "I would never shoot Vivax because I'm too good" is hilariously silly. Like if there is the proper team, then yeah Vivax isn't a bad shot. He can be very towny when he plays. And people love shooting veterans who can look towny. | ||
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On July 26 2019 12:40 Eversince wrote: I think this whole fight is stupid btw. WBG has said entire game he's more a sounding board and letting Jock run the ship. I checked EoD votes and even if FF changed votes to you no one off Rayn wagon was going to move and Coag was mia iirc. So it's weird but I'm not sure it anything more than NAI. I'm completely caught up now, I'm strech my legs and let the dog out! Be back in 5-10! You are correct. There was zero chance FF's vote would have done anything. rayn still would have died. It's a fabricated reason to scum FF. | ||
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lol, I am full onboard with NoSmurfHere is mafia. I haven't changed my mind. but I don't mind talking to him. So, far nothing he's said has changed my mind or provided any doubts. I thought it was funny his 180 on the mason claiming once HF said don't. | ||
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On July 26 2019 13:22 Eversince wrote: 'Why does one inconsequential post make bugs change his read on me?' I didn't get the whole 'scumslip' thing either.. said as much! The point is he’s fabricating scumreads because he’s mafia. | ||
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On July 26 2019 16:35 Holyflare wrote: Do you even read his posts though? It's not that he was right on rayn, I really don't give a shit about being right on someone's alignment. It's that he was right BUT HAD NO IDEA why half the people on rayn were on rayn. So, he casually berates people while simultaneously saying there's no case on rayn when there actually was. He can't be bothered to read into why people vote where they do but still calls them out for it anyway and then has made absolutely 0 conclusions on any of those people that voted really obvious town rayn for no reason? His filter for the last few pages is basically absent of any proper read until vivax flips which is when he decides that vivax was on the right track with vivax saying "look at hf and pandain" rather than any other reason at all. He's 180d his town read on me based on something I'd never even do but his town read on me was because he knows what I do? He said he didn't agree with those on rayn. As far as I'm concerned the only one who had a legitimate gripe was Koshi (rayn being an ass). Hydra added that too to his list. I'm pretty certain Slam didn't say there are no cases, but no credible cases. I disagree that you would never shoot Vivax this game. I think this is a supremely weak argument for Alaskaslam's scumminess. You really don't think there is a world that you wouldn't shoot Vivax? Really of all possible teammate variations on this player list. I will never believe that. I don't even have to consider if you thought about Vivax being mason or cop. (sidenote: Why did the Hydra go straight for Mason hunting and not specify cop possibility? Hmmmmmmmm). I also don't see a difference from saying X player is town/mafia because of meta and being wrong and Slam saying I know X player is town/mafia and being wrong. Or flipping in his case. Yet, no one scums players for bad meta reads. *rarely. I think the only person with a logical case on Slam is Meap. Which is basically Slam is trying too hard to be town. That was an accurate meta years and years ago. I do not think it is relevant any longer. I guess we will find out. | ||
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On July 26 2019 18:30 Koshi wrote: Anyway. Most likely scenario is that: Scum!HF sees that Slam has him as his top scumread. Scum!HF attacks Slam. Town HF would do that too... | ||
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On July 27 2019 01:57 Branch.AUT wrote: I dislike the interaction between koshi, slam and HF. It seems to be aimed at making thread think only about pandain. When theres many other options to consider. What? Which pages? | ||
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On July 27 2019 04:11 Pandain wrote: Jock and HF seem fine so far. I'll admit I only read the first half of Jock/Bugs filter but they seemed town with their effort, responses, critical thinking, etc... Don't like Slam's filter. Mainly for two reasons. 1. He completely lies/misrepresents what happened to Rayn day 1 Absolutely terrible post. This was not at all the reason for voting Rayn at all. I know townie's can misunderstand stuff sometimes but Slam was active and responding to people the entire thread, I find it hard to believe he actually misread the dozens of actual posts on why Rayn could have been scum. It's more likely he's just TMI knowing rayn's alignment and not really reading those cases. 2. His vote on me He's voting me because I'm "utterly forgetable" and literally no other reason. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2019 07:16 Alakaslam wrote: Yup this is why he got my vote as well. HF is a tough catch and I don’t like lynching him early because after about day 1 or sometimes 2 he is one of the most reliable towns who can carry a comeback. Great rep for rolling mafia. On July 26 2019 07:38 Alakaslam wrote: Yes, but I was gut feeling that. In the context of HF filter I am more and more thinking Hf actually but Pandain was too damn forgettable. Meanwhile, he actually scumreads HF and Chezinu but doesn't vote for them , HF for some bullshit "He's a vet" reason and Chezinu...for no reason. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2019 06:56 Alakaslam wrote: In all of HF, the confident active poster’s whopping 1.5 pages of filter, he seems to give the impression that scum outnumber the town roughly 3:1 Hell we might even be able to reverse POE with that I’m actually totally down with both HF or Pandain after reading HF. On July 26 2019 07:40 Alakaslam wrote: This excellently states why I am loth to lynch HF early even if he is my top scumread, which at the moment he is. WNG/Jock either of you want to read his filter? It’s Hf but it is also short. "HF is my top scumread" while he's voting me, rofl Slam wrote the last thing in green. "nastyass filter" from HF On July 26 2019 02:06 Alakaslam wrote: Yes! I ask you why you behave redly. You know the way, you have returned from Colorado to the Sequoias! But you are still at ground level at this post. I shall read thee, most excellent Russian American On July 25 2019 13:45 Alakaslam wrote: Chezinu y u so mafia?  On July 27 2019 02:06 Alakaslam wrote: I did mention Chezinu is scummy but I like him too much in person to vote him yet defense of chez here. honestly i keep people around sometimes too who i like even if i slightly scum read them, but only to a certain extent. In this case, there's two people who he scum reads way more than me (he's never actually scumread me) and two shitty reasons. I think having a scum read on people and then refusing(indirectly or directly) to vote them is trademark mafia. In this case, Slam is doing it twice. I also don't like his characterizations of the rayn lynch which is complete lies/misrepresentations and sounds like a mafia trying to lecture town about how "obviously wrong" they were. Good chance to be mafia In your words what happened to rayn? Where is the misrepresentation? I agree with Slam. Concerning point 2. I mean sure. You admitted you haven't been active and it's not even a bad reason to lynch you. He explained HF and also said he just personally likes Chezinu. So I can see why he would vote you instead. I've voted for people who were policy over people I thought might be scum but were funny to me so.... | ||
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On July 27 2019 04:23 Pandain wrote: hardly. He said at one point I "might be mafia". He seems a lot more certain on HF and actually even you. No. He said very early game that the townreads on slam are whack. Which I doubt were do to a read on slam as it is Slam's unreadableness. You're making shit up. | ||
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On July 27 2019 05:05 Pandain wrote: how is it even about misunderstanding rayn? you "misunderstood" the entire thread despite actively reading and responding in it You also misunderstood rayn's case on the Hydra, it wasn't because J was afraid to post. | ||
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On July 27 2019 05:18 Alakaslam wrote: Also why has Eywa- gone absent? Actually starting to worry. On July 26 2019 00:01 Eywa- wrote: You guys might lose me for day 2, since my sister's wedding is this weekend. I'll do my best, but I imagine once the posting picks up, it'll be pretty difficult. My vote is going on meapak, if you're going to counter wagon, I would suggest Alakaslam or Fecal. | ||
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On July 27 2019 05:49 Alakaslam wrote: Oh yeah Tubesock I just got word from the FAA that the clouds can only ever be seen from above by me if I pay for an airline ticket. I was an angsty teenager and my mom put it in my medical record. Drank listerine, cause everyone knows that stuff is poison. This saddens me. There are programs to fight this though, albeit expensive and well then you still have to somehow afford lessons. If you are ever in the Seattle area, I can give you a couple flight lessons and your fiance/wife can ride along. | ||
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On July 27 2019 06:20 Pandain wrote: Not sure it was Rayn who posted it, but defeintely someone made a comment that they were suspicious of Jock because "he seems afraid to post as mafia and this game he's not posting alot" I did say you had a point with point 2. It's just I can't imagine a mafia saying that where I can see townies say it. But I townread him for his other stuff and it, for me, points to town. Well, more so than say hydra. Truthfully, if NoSmurf wasn't trying so hard on slam, I could see that possibility. But I do feel pretty strong on NoSmurf. rayn did say "and Jock can post a lot" but his point and what the rest of his paragraph was saying is that Jock opens with "I'm not giving reads without coordinating with Bugs, reactions only" Then some time goes and J posts a list post but calls it a reaction post. Then was called out for it due to going back on his word so fast where a couple of us (HF saw it too) believed a towny wouldn't be compelled to post such a fluffy fluff post. *I'm not sure if HF thought taht post was fluff or not. That's my adjective. Before anyone gets pedantic. | ||
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On July 27 2019 06:22 Pandain wrote: Ok I'm exagerrating a bit but he does also criticize slam for not appropriately reacting to a scummy post. Meanwhile the only thing he said about me is "he might be mafia." I just think its a weak as hell reason to vote someone. sure he scum read me on the end, but it was very weak and there were others he scum read more. I could be projecting on Slam. But I think he's voting you cause you haven't done anything and the belief that the dead died for a reason. As far as not voting HF or Chezinu, I mean I guess I see it as what's the point of voting HF? It's unlikely Slam can get him killed, it'll really just get Slam killed. That's not necessarily mafia exclusive thinking. In your shoes, I would absolutely be scumreading Slam for that. So, you could be right. I just don't think so. Slam rarely does what people expect, so I don't understand why people are scumreading Slam for not behaving like the cookie cutter towny when he's never done that in the last 8 years or whatever. The other reason Slam could be mafia is Meap's meta. But I really really truly believe it's no longer valid for both Slam constant change reasons, TL site change reasons, and internal Slam maturity reasons. But people wanting him to die because he doesn't make sense is absolutely tragically hilarious to me. | ||
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On July 27 2019 06:59 Koshi wrote: I still stand by my 3. I could switch to Eywa-. Chez too for that matter, but I do enjoy him when he plays soo lollololol terrible reasons | ||
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Anyone want to talk about any of them? I leave in 30 minutes but can phone post a little later tonight and tomorrow morning before the lynch. | ||
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On July 27 2019 07:23 Alakaslam wrote: There is host wifom in the Branch slot that was once Coagulation Hf Eywa town Eversince hasn’t been able to chime in enough or likely scum NSH watch Chezinu probably scum but possibly annoyed with you for not understanding how timelessly important your Survivor reference was (or perhaps, for knowing full well what strings you were pulling) I don't remember why you think Eywa- is town. Can you recap? Or simply just say you've said why, and I'll find it. But I just read your filter and don't remember. HF is tough for me. Usually, he does something I don't think a mafia HF would bother with. Of course he hasn't done anything scummy, HF never actually does I don't think. Maybe silly crazy fakeclaimy shit but still... I'm looking forward to see his town light shine tomorrow. No matter what it'll be fun. While I know the Survivor reference, I don't know how that pertains to Chezinu specifically. I was just using it generically. More a well Chez, you are not playing, so not only do I not have any idea of your alignment, I am not being entertained by your puzzle or hilarity. So, he currently only holds the potential for value to me. Which isn't enough. | ||
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But I'm impressed with this old time band. never heard of them before. | ||
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On July 27 2019 07:55 Branch.AUT wrote: All of these i have not read. Except coagulation. He's not in this game anymore. What do you think of the hydra? You need to read my filter I’d you want my thoughts on the hydra. I will answer further questions. You say we will need to use logic and reasoning to figure out your alignment. Fair enough. Coag posted non alignment indicative truthisms. He remained opaque so to remain hidden from town. Logic and reason say he’s scum. You replace in. Make two posts of substance. 1) something about HF, and Koshi and Slam looking bad for talking about Pandain on the last two pages. 2 people asked you essentially “what? Wasn’t that about Alakaslam?” You didn’t answer. Your second post is about meap. Which I don’t think I agree with, but at least it was a read. Then you are very unhelpful when someone tries to engage you and tell them to use logic and reason. As a replacement, I and I’m sure others, are giving your time to catch up and give us something. It’s beginning to look like you are going to continue the opaqueness of your predecessor. If I start to think you will continue on this line, I would rather lynch you than Eywa- . I’m very confident she will return from her wedding and start playing by the next day. So I’d like her to have a chance at showing us if she’s town. | ||
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Voting NSH. | ||
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I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere. Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum. Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is. | ||
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If Slam doesn’t get lynched, he can go back to oh we should have lynched Slam, my bad. So no Meap, this scenario is not necessarily implying Slam is a scum power role. | ||
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On July 27 2019 23:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Smurf has literally put himself on the chopping block for Koshi. Explain to me how that makes sense as scum. He could have sat back and ridden the slam lynch into the sunset if he was scum and slam was town. Smurf had one vote (Chezinu). Yeah that Chezinu. Saying he put himself on the chopping block is a massive exaggeration. Very scummy. He could have. Maybe should have. Even if true, it doesn’t miraculously make him town. | ||
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I'll go to Chez if the Hydra loses the lead. | ||
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On July 28 2019 02:09 Pandain wrote: do you actually think it's a good thing to post 25 times in a row? not scumreading this for you, just genuinely curious. Slight townread on TS, only reason its slight is because this is the most logical I've ever seen him play. Chezinu filter actually complete trash. In this very SPECIFIC instance yes, I am fine with 25 posts in a row. Generically speaking, no and in the predeath "meta"/atmosphere (100 page D1's) it is bad. I shouldn't even say bad, I don't mind it, but I'll agree it's better to consolodate posts. Chez' filter is trash. He is a good lynch. | ||
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You agree Chezinu is a good lynch. This lynch is coming out of nowhere. So, that could be a wrench in scumplay. It also provides a good opportunity to find logistical fallacies when/if people change their vote or don't. It forces everyone to reason why they changed or not. Plus, HF is absolutely right, it's a good play to see Chez die, and then force mafia to shoot into the 3 veterans or into the lurker crow. It's pretty smart. | ||
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On July 28 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote: I guess so. But he's sounding like it will win us the game. you said you're going to switch to Chez if he loses the lead. are you going to switch? I'm taking that as HF grandiosity. Like he will solve the game for town. Or lulz win for mafia if he's mafia. But I think it's a good town play so I'm willing. I am not sure I'll change. I'm not voting Chez to save hydra, and I won't endanger Koshi or Slam. But at that point my vote won't matter anyway, so I'll probably just stay. Plus, people can get mad cause I'm so deeeeeep in a tunnel and I don't want to take that away. | ||
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On July 28 2019 03:16 NoSmurfHere wrote: Unwilling as in willing, right? Up is down with you koshi. Left is right. We are literally willing to lynch chez. In fact, we voted for chez quicker than tubesock did. He took over an hour to change his vote after he posted his comment about liking to watch hf or something. So why isn't tubesock on your list? Maybe its because that's really bad way to decide who's scum. You're talking bollocks. -J To be fair, I was waiting to make sure my vote didn't save you. Anyway, carry on. | ||
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On July 28 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote: yeah you're right it's better than throwing away your scum reads. but you're straight up lying if you think having no scum reads day1 and day2 is a good thing because it's literally the main reason we are voting chezinu And actually now that I'm looking at your filter closer your main reasons for voting Rayn actually are that he's anti-town, not because of any other reasons. You make one post very early on that is an actual scumread, and then you just repeat later he's anti-town and that's why he should be lynched. Which makes your one actual scum read really only half of one. I don't think the main reason anyone is lynching Chezinu is because he didn't have scumreads. | ||
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On July 28 2019 04:19 Pandain wrote: I don't know why anyone is voting chezinu other than the fact he's literally done nothing this game. town reads or scum reads It's true, it's because he's done literally nothing this game. I'm pointing out you're exaggerating a little bit about the no scumreads thing. I don't know if it's everygame, but soo soo many games theres always a towny who doesn't have a scumread for a day or two. So, that argument isn't selling Koshi is scum to me. You may have a point about the flippy flop scum to sheep thing. I'll look more into that later. | ||
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On July 28 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote: It's he spend most of D1/D2 sheeping instead of trying to come up with reads for me. Not that he doesn't have strong feelings one way or other. He didn't even try to come up with reads until he was forced to.. If you're talking about Koshi, he's posted several times who his 3 mafia candidates are for awhile.... | ||
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On July 28 2019 05:12 Koshi wrote: Next game I make maximum 1 page per cycle. This is ridiculous. I am bad now. Very bad. And you’ll probably have rolled parity cop. | ||
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On July 28 2019 07:30 NoSmurfHere wrote: 100 times fuck you HF. I hope you are scum here but almost on basis of tone you feel town. We should have killed Koshi like I said to begin with. -wherebugsgo I think it was a good play. Unfortunate we killed our cop. To answer your question, no. | ||
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Now that you know I’m not Mason, I don’t see how I can be your top town. We disagree on almost every read. Even philosophically I think we differ on nearly everything. We just don’t have any common ground. I can’t wrap my head around it. | ||
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I didn’t think both MZ and Eywa- could have been mafia. Although maybe possible if I put together that Eywa scummed MZ on his very first post but I doubt it. No Smurf, why do you two think I would just sheep rayns read all game? Did you really mean that? Aside from him I believed you were scum because of all the attention on the masons partner which I didn’t think a Towne would actually care about. And I never liked the “if I were scum I’d never...” stuff. Although after the chat summaries I did think you were town. Side note, this was the first time I’ve been night killed because I was blue. Lol | ||
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On August 06 2019 08:41 Eywa- wrote: Can I post the scum PT? It was posted. If you mean QT | ||
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On August 08 2019 10:43 Fecalfeast wrote: In what way was I not being cooperative could you maybe explain what you think I did to deserve getting lynched I think we were cooperative just not with him. | ||
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