Cupid's Arrow Mafia - Page 9

On August 05 2019 04:10 NoSmurfHere wrote:
MZ yesterday:



ES today:



-J

On August 06 2019 09:04 wherebugsgo wrote:


Try and step out of your own shoes for a second and reread what you just wrote here.

It's rare for people to understand exactly how others play all the time. And what you say in-game is unreliable, even what you say here is unreliable because I personally don't believe when people say "I only do this as one alignment". I do a ton of things as both alignments and I'm personally not sure I can tell you how to read me because I'm not sure myself if I have any tells, and there hasn't been anyone I've played with yet who I feel can reliably read me. I can tell you the things I would be likely to do as certain alignments (like kills) but most of the stuff I do (like talk about masons etc. which people used to scumread me this game) is not alignment indicative.

And you're still not reading I think on the vote stuff

LYLO: one incorrect town vote risks losing the game.

You: don't vote, don't provide any hard reads at all. Also you: it should be obvious who I am about to vote. Me: facepalm.

Really, read what you just wrote. If you have no idea what's going on then how is anyone supposed to be able to guess who you're about to vote??

If we don't know who you're going to vote till the last minute, we can't coordinate and potentially waste the cycle. Which at LYLO equates to a loss.

If you don't get this....then, I don't really know what to say. Reread the newbie guide?

On August 06 2019 11:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
btw as an aside I think my opinion on the self vote rule has changed.

I used to think that there were really niche situations where killing yourself would end discussion and allow the game to progress in a way that is beneficial to your faction.

Given that there are people that will now do this at LYLO as town and it becomes a really stupid scumhunting "heuristic" (aka martyrs cannot be scum fallacy) think it should go back to being against the rules.

I think the vast majority of self-voting cases are playing against your own wincon and we should not allow that if playing against your own wincon is against the rules. It's not fair to the other players if you've got one person who'd rather refuse to play and end the game early rather by playing against their own wincondition than actually doing what's expected of them.

On August 06 2019 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:


1. Pandain threw his vote on Koshi in LYLO and left it there all day.

2. MZ pushed branch & Koshi and parked his vote on branch.

3. voter list on MZ and ES was identical, just different order. minimum 2 townies in both lists.

4. after MZ flipped scum, both Koshi and branch basically shot to near confirmed town (branch more so, it would have been koshi if Pandain was lynched instead) especially because both players were pushed heavily even prior to LYLO.

This makes the following three scenarios the most likely:

1. scum didn't bus. ES & Pandain scum. by definition not possible from ES perspective.

2. Pandain lock scum and wasted vote seeking a mislynch. One other scum bussed. To ES, this should be the most likely scenario.

3. Two scum bussed and somehow just left ES alive. The only scumteam where this makes sense from ES perspective is us & Koshi because Eywa was the first voter on MZ AND the hammer on ES. It would have indicated that scum us did not feel comfortable predicting where the lynch would go and decided to bus MZ for a guaranteed win the next cycle. ES should have seen that this is borderline impossible.

On August 06 2019 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
another reason koshi was essentially lock town was because MZ and at least one other scum pushed him as a viable lynch candidate d2 in opposition to Chezinu, because the 3 voters on Koshi were MZ Pandain ES

multiple scum don't try to create wagons on their own teammates when the votes are so close. scum can't predict lynches like that.