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On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum.
Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense.
Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first.
Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more.
All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum.
You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time.
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On July 27 2019 22:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:47 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:12 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 22:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 21:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 19:39 Koshi wrote:
Oh well. I am on Chezinu and I am fine with it. I would prefer to vote Eversince right now but hey. Maybe I am just mad at her and the world. It's crazy how you started this day cycle as a pretty decent townread of mine and literally everything you've posted since then has been garbage. I've got eversince as soft town. What is your reason besides for an elaborate omgus for voting him/her? Between koshi and chez I'd rather lynch chez but I'd much much rather lynch slam still. Ohhh I made this post before fully catching up and missed the hydra's case... I may have to reconsider chez vs koshi now. Here's where I am on Slam: If he's mafia and he's self voting he's doing it to try and keep votes away from other mafia. Otherwise he's town and just wants to die cos he thinks it will help town. Either way voting for him at this point is bad. Koshi is scum however and he will get stronger as the game gets smaller. If you think he is mafia kill him today. -J I absolutely hate his martyr and that's from someone who's done it before. Imo you martyr as town when there's like 6 hours left in the day and you have no hope of getting saved so you self vote to spawn discussion about the next day's vote. Slam on the other hand self voted with like 24 hours left and hardly a vote lead which to me says he's trying to appeal to emotion (and it seems to be working). The case on Koshi is not bad though, I just feel like we're moving from a like 95% chance to a 75% chance at hitting scum. I hope you are mafia. Go read the end of the world mafia if you want to see what I'm talking about. I got lynched like D4 or something and just stopped fighting it in the last couple hours so we could move on and talk about other shit. This preemptive 24 hours early martyr is just ridiculous. And yours is not any better by the way Mr. "I'm fine with Dying today." If you're town, start giving a fuck and play. I gave enough fucks. I am ok with dieing because I can't cure retarded. Let me get this straight Branch, you think this guy right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is scum. Getting bused by the hydra. Who is also scum. Which means you must think slam is scum, since the only person who a koshi bus would save is slam. Have I got all that right? Because that is the path that your logic is flowing down right now and it is pants on head retarded.
Missed this earlier.
Never accused koshi, never accused slam. Talking about the hydra, because the hydra is my scum read.
Your insistance on connecting players to each others at this point in time is premature. Seems to me you are trying to spread attention between many people at this time. Which is miguided and anti town.
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On July 27 2019 23:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 23:10 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum.
Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position. But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment. Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum) That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him) Think about the implications of your reads.
Youre making up connections between players, which is purely speculative. I urge you to focus your attention on your top read, and vote this one person
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Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town
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On July 28 2019 05:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town Can you explain why you have expressed that you find Koshi suspicious and want to vote for the hydra but instead of making the wagon on Koshi basically the same size as the Chezinu one you joined BOTH your scum read and suspicious Koshi to make Chezinu more in the lead?
The hydra is my scum read. If you want to know why check my filter, it's the main thing there.
Koshis behaviour is suspicious because of poor reasoning and my perception of him sowing distrust in thread, and escalating emotionally. He flips around between sheeping slam and providing reads only after admitting he doesn't read the thread. This is suspicious but not lynch worthy.
I voted Chezinu mainly because he had the highest votecount when I managed to get to a computer, and had not finished catching up on the thread prior to deadline.
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On July 28 2019 05:10 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Wait branch has never played with chezinu before right?
I have
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On July 28 2019 05:24 Eversince wrote:Real first game this then?  I thought it was said earlier you just obs. Hmm..
First game on forums. Therefore no recorded meta
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On July 28 2019 05:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 05:19 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 28 2019 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town Can you explain why you have expressed that you find Koshi suspicious and want to vote for the hydra but instead of making the wagon on Koshi basically the same size as the Chezinu one you joined BOTH your scum read and suspicious Koshi to make Chezinu more in the lead? The hydra is my scum read. If you want to know why check my filter, it's the main thing there. Koshis behaviour is suspicious because of poor reasoning and my perception of him sowing distrust in thread, and escalating emotionally. He flips around between sheeping slam and providing reads only after admitting he doesn't read the thread. This is suspicious but not lynch worthy. I voted Chezinu mainly because he had the highest votecount when I managed to get to a computer, and had not finished catching up on the thread prior to deadline. You misunderstand, I KNOW the hydra is your scum read and I KNOW that you find Koshi suspicious. I'm asking why you look at a vote count, see the highest wagon is Chezinu that contains your scum read (the hydra) and Koshi (who you find suspicious) and instead of voting the second highest wagon, the guy you think is suspicious (Koshi) you simply vote the highest wagon that contains both your scum read, the hydra, and your suspicious player KoshI???
I had to make a quick decision and never considered any of these things minutes before deadline.
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On July 28 2019 05:27 Eversince wrote:
More so because someone else said they'd move over to Koshi if he got 1 more vote too. Changing lynch from Chez->Koshi
I didn't know this as I wasn't caught up on thread at the time.
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On July 28 2019 04:59 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town ???
With 0 information available on chezinu, and 11 players out of which 3 are mafia, a blind lynch into inactive has an 8/11 chance of being a town lynch.
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On July 28 2019 05:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
so coag claimed scum post 1 as scum and branch is a super tryhard or what are we thinking here
I don't know what you mean by tryhard. I think pushing my main scumread for lynching is baseline town play.
On July 28 2019 06:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE HYDRA IS JUST SCUM EH
I have gathered a few thoughts on this topic in my filter, feel free to browse.
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FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF?
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Holyflare what HAVE you learned from lynching chez? I simply dont understand.
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On July 29 2019 10:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2019 02:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Raynpelikoneet (6): Eywa, Holyflare, Koshi, Pandain, Meapak_Ziphh, NoSmurfHere
NoSmurfHere (4): Tubesock, FecalFeast, Raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (2): Eywa, FecalFeast, Coagulation
Coagulation (0): Holyflare, Vivax
Holyflare (0): Raynpelikoneet, Meapak_Ziphh
Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Revelator
Raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Wednesday, Jul 24 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
FF Branch.AUT don’t look good by VA. NSH looks worse.
Youre right my voting looks bad. I was extremely rushed because i tried reading several hours of ganeplay in under 10 minutes.
At the time i decised to give up, I voted the highest votecount (chez) because in my mind it would make it more difficult for scum to last minute jump the vote ona different target.
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On July 29 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF? You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right? I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes.
It'd be more surprising if they didn't, having four hands and two active time zones makes it easy.
Why is # of posts important though? Spamming out posts is really easy, just look at slam or koshi...
Their reaction to me pointing to this post is far more telling. Especially the part where they ignore my argument and pull unrelated information for their defense is extremely scum to me
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On July 29 2019 23:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:21 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF? You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right? I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes. It'd be more surprising if they didn't, having four hands and two active time zones makes it easy. Why is # of posts important though? Spamming out posts is really easy, just look at slam or koshi... Their reaction to me pointing to this post is far more telling. Especially the part where they ignore my argument and pull unrelated information for their defense is extremely scum to me Number of posts is important because in the post I quoted you say one situation is that I'm pushing an inactive veteran which they most certainly are not? I don't really believe they're mafia after Jock is posting this qt summary. I do expect him to finish though.
WBG, the veteran head announced he would be travelling and inactive. Rephrasing inactive to afk would be correct.
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Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations.
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On July 30 2019 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
I really can't bring myself to read anyone lol
I recommend MZ his filter is really short
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On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way.
Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up.
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On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start.
Calling me scum entails coagulation claiming scum with first post and actually being scum. I don't know the man but I'm quite certain hes not that much of a cretin.
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