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If you’re hoping this dumbtell is gonna save you from death tomorrow you better try harder -wherebugsgo | ||
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I’ve committed a cardinal sin and reread something for only the 2nd or 3rd time this game but that one might have been worth it. Right at that time was when I had a post to eversince about needing time to understand why slam would martyr in that situation, in the way he did, as well as getting cold feet on FF purely on tone-basis (and secretly, because we were getting 0 traction on FF) As an alternative to slam/FF I proposed Koshi. Right around that time branch starts flinging poop at us. Hmmm.... -wherebugsgo | ||
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We're agreed. I had that team anyway and WBG has come back and agreed with it and MZ's cases have been very good today. FF still trying to throw doubt on the QT stuff nice lol. -J | ||
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10 players left Us Slam Eywa ES MZ HF Koshi FF Branch Pandain so its 7v3 if we mislynch and there's 2 mafia kills its 4v3 still -J | ||
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On July 30 2019 18:21 Branch.AUT wrote: That didn't take long to find. Does this still affect your read on me? It seems to me that this is the source of your cognitive bias against me. Please reevalute with this in mind. I don't think it looks like cognitive bias. People were generally willing to townread you when you first subbed in to the thread, but the way you have posted has led to you being one of the main scum candidates. You aren't doing town things right now, your end of day was panicky like you wanted to look like you were voting in the 'right' place and you took ages to update how you were thinking about the game when things changed, as if you were waiting for town opinion to shift before you would shift your own opinion. You pushed us hard when you first came in to the thread and that's why people were null-townish on you. Who are you going to push now? How are you going to figure the game out? It looks like you're just coasting to the next lynch but its urgent that town figures the game out quickly and doesn't mislynch any more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On July 30 2019 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Also was considering making a QT and showing how easily I could fake 10 QT posts because I have like 100 qts with everyone's qt usernames and shit to reference but I am far too lazy On July 30 2019 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote: I will save my thoughts on that for post-game FF complaining (or insinuating that he had complaints at least) about the QT thing is pretty much a scum claim, no? -J | ||
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Sorry if I yell at anyone today. I will yell at you if you don't vote for koshi or FF though. -J | ||
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On July 30 2019 15:48 Eversince wrote: Oops you are right!! How embarrassing! I just counted up base names but that excluded both Branch and myself xD! How did I do this for days.. I should sleep more. I did the same thing yesterday (IRL time) in #1506. Sorry FF lol I’m the idiot on that one. Par for the course I think  On July 30 2019 15:03 Alakaslam wrote: Man alive bugs I owe you an apology. You’ve been on fire this game and I suspected you for it, slung shit at you for it, and got petulant for it. I must seem like the fatass playing Warcraft at home to you. Man alive but I do feel marginalized in here when I finally find something. I gotta learn communication skills. I also realized not everything is implicit and punctuation is important in English, period. It suddenly dawned on me with this weird idea: It is hard being a man, child. It is hard being a man child One is a warning the other is a pathetic statement. I gotta de-lazy myself with punctuation. Don’t apologize yet, no idea if I’m right since we haven’t seen a flip. No worries on anything though, I’m enjoying the game cause I can do less than half the work and converse with my buddy Jock here Game would make too much sense if all 3 of Koshi, FF, and branch are scum and that makes me paranoid lol. At least we don’t lose if we lynch one and they’re a townie (unlike my dumbass thought yesterday after my flight, that we’re in mylo) -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 30 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote: Well: A) I didn't think he was town B) Even if he was I'd pretend to be parity and get shot letting our actual parity get off a check C) If I didn't get shot I'd know mafia was full of baddies D) If I didn't get shot and someone else that wasn't a lead vet got shot after I basically claimed parity then I would of rampaged on bugs/koshi Don’t ever try this again. Seriously, if you’re town this plan is selfish as fuck and awful to boot. From the poor townie PC perspective they have no idea whether you’re mafia trying to bait a claim or whether you’re a townie fake claiming. Ordinarily you could apply the logic that no scum would ever trade 1 for 1 in that situation, but it isn’t true here because: 1. A veteran scum player trading 1 for 1 for the real parity cop is actually a solid play there. The PC, if they believe you are scum, has a strong chance of counterclaiming before day 3 which allows scum to shoot on n2, because in the moment they will think you are the best lynch. This is especially true for someone like me where I will be wondering why the fuck you hijacked a lynch of Koshi to kill an afk vanilla townie. 2. You should have already known mafia were full of baddies when they fucked up the mason hunt on n1. Anyone who was reading the game should have known that tube was rayn’s partner essentially within minutes of his flip by reading the vote count & who sheeped rayn and said they’d tunnel us forever for no reason at all (hint: TUBE) 3. Your last statement proves that scum kills (except when shooting confirmed townies) don’t really matter all that much. I think the Vivax kill was bad because there was a confirmed town after day 1. Otherwise, any kill would have been fine, because people read all sorts of weird shit into scum kills, as proven by the fact that people tried to read into the tube shot anything other than “oh, they figured out tube is the mason, finally” If you’re town I seriously implore you to stop trying to pull plays like this. They don’t win games, and they make it harder for your teammates. Maybe they sound fun to you but it is decidedly not fun in the moment to try and figure out what the fuck you are doing when it causes so much chaos. This is precious time lost trying to piece things together as proven by the number of times you are being asked to explain yourself. As scum you are an experienced enough player to do it and use it to your advantage even if you haven’t been brave enough to try it till now. -wherebugsgo | ||
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Like really I don’t know if anyone else actually thinks that at this point and you literally never explain your read. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 30 2019 23:14 Eywa- wrote: I mean, in a game that's this hard to read and this tight, I think it's important to not give passes for anything. Like, we're all pretty much scum reading Branch due to his terrible entrance, but if that was day 1, I bet you all would have forgotten about it. He can't play the card of "Well, everything has been kosher since then". That’s not why I’m scumreading branch. I’m scumreading branch because he has had a long time to make sense and still doesn’t. All of his pushes are just reasons pulled from thin air and his logic makes no sense (+ he’s ultra-defensive of his pushes right up until he’s not). It’s like he’s making up reads. I actually gave him a pass all of yesterday because he was a replacement. As for why I don’t scumread MZ, I never saw his entrance on day 1 as bad and I still don’t see anything wrong with his posts. In particular I have no idea how you can think branch and MZ are scum together unless MZ is next-level bussing because MZ was basically the only player who straight up called out branch on his bs yesterday. He tore apart his logic, in a situation where he could have just sat back and watched Chezinu get lynched. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. -Jock | ||
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Read MZ’s posts for once and it’ll be obvious to you. Not doing your legwork for you, I’ve already read the game On July 30 2019 23:38 Branch.AUT wrote: Please take a step back and consider my point on Eywa. In an atmosphere where the game gets easier if people contribute, hiding behind one liners is bad play. If I'm wrong, tell me why and I might reconsider. Otherwise vote Eywa with me to make them play the game or get lynched. If in the off-chance you’re still misguided town here: Eywa is not the best lynch. Period. Posting one liners is not a scum tell; townies do this all the time. Even if that were the case, if you want to kill people for one liners, by that same logic why aren’t you voting or suspecting FF? Lastly I don’t understand why you would be voting to “make people play” at this stage of the game rather than killing the people most likely to be scum. According to you earlier, Koshi is suspicious but now that he’s on the chopping block you’re urging us to consider someone else entirely. To top it all off, you completely dropped your attack on us when it was clear no one was biting. Strange. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 31 2019 00:10 Branch.AUT wrote: FF has been scum read so many times that piling more reads onto him serves no purpose. Neither does sitting here doing nothing. Pushing the next weakest read for information is the most useful thing to do here. You have been fixated on Koshi for a very long time now, and never tire to mention me calling him suspicious. Enlighten me, what is it that makes you tunnel him so hard? Try reading my posts I actually don’t really disagree with you that getting more information here is useful, as long as your vote contributes to killing scum at the end of the day. However I really have nothing new to say on Koshi nor FF. If you can find new things on Eywa or other players, then be my guest. I’m open to convincing, just so far you haven’t been. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 31 2019 03:07 Eversince wrote: @ Jock Between Koshi and FF. I'm still deciding. Koshi is my easy choice. I could vote for FF too though. His play today when I tried to interact with him especially made me really go from waffle to a 'why the hell would town play this way?' So bleh, took me long enough, he's got a good chance of flipping mafia to imo. If you vote on FF it gives koshi the choice between himself and FF to die. -J | ||
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This Eywa push is garbage. Pandain you around? Care to tell the class what you think of the vote situation? Same question for Meapak. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 31 2019 03:13 Pandain wrote: And by don't care I mean that's why I'm not really engaged in this discussion on someone I don't think is scum Can you actually play the game and talk it out with me instead of being inactive all the time? I don’t recall it being this difficult to get thoughts out of you the last couple games and I’m having a hard time understanding whether that is because you are short on time, scum, or both. Like this statement is a bit vague. Do you mean you don’t think FF is scum? If not, who is your 3 person scum team? -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote: I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments. If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense. Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone. Actually we learn a ton if the lynch is between Koshi and FF. They have tons of interactions with other players and FF in particular (IIRC) is a defender of Koshi. Making people pick between those two is way better than having them pick between either of them and Eywa, especially when the only people who seem to agree on Eywa are the ones voting him Presumably they either think the other is town or scum bussing here, and given that almost no one outside you 3 thinks Eywa is scum, it’s much better to have people split between the two players that are actually being called scum. -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 31 2019 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote: I mean... I want to self vote to save koshi but that's like literally playing against my wincon since I can only be 100% on myself. I'm at work and we're taking an early break See look at this I think only HF has bothered to defend Koshi this hard -wherebugsgo | ||
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