[N] Uninspired Mafia

On April 30 2019 08:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
No one has anything more interesting to say than just their role?

On April 30 2019 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Rayn should we lynch bugs for lying and saying I claimed scum?

On April 30 2019 21:42 wherebugsgo wrote:


what game are you talking about

I haven't played for something like 2 years

On April 08 2018 10:43 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Someone tell me the run down of who’s good and who’s not in this game. If it seems legit maybe I’ll actually consider you town

On May 01 2019 02:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Yeah still super Ok with where my vote is located.

Jock should know enough at this point (especially after his first game) on how to at least FoS people or pressure people. Given that hes not adding content, showed he was lurking thread waiting (replied literally like 2 minutes after i voted) and hasnt offered anything other than "im not scum, people be bad"

I get its day 1 and day 1 can be a crap shoot but at least try for fucks sake.

On May 01 2019 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
shoot grack until he says something useful, and let MZ live long enough to prove his alignment as I think hes town atm.

On May 01 2019 20:25 wherebugsgo wrote:


for how much our opinions align it's remarkable you think I am scum

I actually was in agreement with some of rayn's opinions early on (#125) but on reread it seems most of the things rayn accuses me of are projections.

On May 01 2019 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock town
Meapak town
VE town but misguided as fuck atm
Grack maybe town

Pandain maaaaaaaaybe town. I have never played with town!Pandain lol

BC no idea
FF no idea. I originally thought he cant be scum with bugs but rhat doesnt hold. Him and grack made the stupid packt some years ago that threw me off completely so he can defs be mafia with bugs.

Bugs maybe mafia.

Who else idk.

On May 02 2019 01:29 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think WBG's repeated questions about incognitos guides and irrelevant things are a scum ploy to fly under the radar. I think he's just a bit of an odd-ball especially considering his reply to the incognito question.

On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote:
FIXED POST

I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close.

Also this is concerning:


And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.

On May 02 2019 04:01 Pandain wrote:
If you think there's almost no chance someone is scum why are you perfectly okay with his lynch

On April 08 2019 22:14 Eywa- wrote:
The hard claim of big dick is hands down the best thing I've seen on any mafia site 😂

On May 02 2019 04:53 Pandain wrote:
Grack join the train. You know me and you are mafia bros. Let's lynch scum together.

On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
If you super dislike that leave a comment brlow.

On May 02 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
Just kill whoever claimed jock was town. Easy game easy life.

On May 02 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
Let us also not forget that he agreed with all the points on Jock, fought against rayn that jock looked scummy, said rayn was scummy for not trying to save his town read and then dropped it all to try and shenanigan with rayn.

On May 02 2019 05:04 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see two scum between BC, VE, HF, bugs, and vivax

On May 02 2019 07:41 Holyflare wrote:


When did I say vivax wasn't mafia? I don't think he's done anything good or awful. Similarly to you.

On May 02 2019 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
Also jock now that you actually were town I feel pretty bad. I hope you play here again because I do enjoy when you play.

On May 02 2019 07:47 Holyflare wrote:


Sometimes they're okay but I can't say I'm a fan. Pretty gross really.

On May 02 2019 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when you're just sitting on your computer with the lights off reading tl mafia and then you come across a post and there's bugs just looking back at you all sassy and shit? Like I said, tolerable but annoying.

On May 02 2019 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
I quit drinking like 6 months ago lol

On May 02 2019 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
I can't really elaborate any more than I don't like bugs. Problem with bugs is the unavoidability. You'll just be talking with a guy in the thread and suddenly bugs attack you and you're defenseless. What do you do?

I've tried calling bugs mafia but how do you call such a miniscule being mafia? I don't think anyone listens to inane midnight ramblings of a British man talking to bugs anyway.

On May 02 2019 08:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
rayn seems like you disagree with HF on pandain, care to explain why?

On May 02 2019 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:


not sure, I’m reading on mobile and you and HF have literally a page or two of just direct chat. If you’re around for deadline just prep a post and post it before then. Good chance one of the three of us dies if we’re all town. I’m not sure if all 3 of us are but occam’s razor suggests that to be true

On May 02 2019 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Good chance one of the three of us dies if we’re all town. I’m not sure if all 3 of us are but occam’s razor suggests that to be true

On May 02 2019 09:08 wherebugsgo wrote:


MZ
Pandain
FF

replace one with Vivax/Rels potentially.

The problem with FF, Vivax, and Rels is that they are very hard to distinguish. Rels at this rate will get replaced and if the hosts follow their rules to the T Vivax should be replaced as well. iGrok also hasn’t posted so that’s a 20% possibility.

I am more than 90% sure we have at least one scum between MZ Pandain and FF and I would give the chance of 2 at 50% or more

On May 02 2019 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
I could argue on balance that one of you should be scum but that’s not the simplest answer because it requires me to throw away my actual read on one or both of you.

On May 02 2019 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
I know you probably think you are playing transparently and townie but if you are town, then I will ask that you spend less time contributing to the thread with useless filler posts like this one and more helping others actually establish your reads, particularly your reasoning. You certainly seem to think I should be doing that but you appear to have little self-awareness that you aren’t doing that.

On March 05 2019 13:55 Tictock wrote:

I've seen Rayn many a time bulldog down a scumread of his even when there is tons of evidence that he could be wrong, but since he sees something that colors a person red he will never let it go. Similarly will ignore someone he sees as townie who disagrees since he writes them off in his mind since he has "solved" their alignment. I'd go so far as to say that Rayn often is playing his own game of mafia, called "How right can Rayn be this game" (ok this is a bit unfair, and sorry Rayn, but it's how I perceive it).

On May 02 2019 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would people want to lynch MZ?

On May 02 2019 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
go back and reread the progression of my read, it’s actually fairly obvious at the point where I agreed with the Jock case (hint: it’s when I actually voted) I had already formed my read on grack well before that.

On May 01 2019 23:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
1. MZ claimed to be "obviously standing with the Jock suspicions crowd" but never actually voted

On May 02 2019 11:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
You haven't even tried the thing that actually made me suspicious of MZ in the first place, which was confirming I knew how to read MZ by reading his past games..

On May 02 2019 11:19 wherebugsgo wrote:


no, I don't think so. I think HF is more likely to be scum than you if I had to flip one of my reads.

Do you actually legitimately believe an HF & Vivax & me scum team? If me and HF were on the same team why would I argue with him over meta on Jock?

On May 02 2019 11:42 wherebugsgo wrote:


I have no idea what on earth you're trying to say. I already said I think your interaction with HF makes more sense if you are town. You wouldn't interact with HF if you are mafia and HF is town? Cool story, that agrees with my read and what I actually saw happen.

I'm going to stop wasting my time and polluting the thread by replying to you now, consider thinking more before you post.

On May 02 2019 12:22 Rels wrote:
I totally forgot about this game =X
I'll read everything during my lunch break tomorrow

On May 02 2019 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Istill dont know why MZ is mafia.

On May 02 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
Just kill whoever claimed jock was town. Easy game easy life.

On May 02 2019 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you filter everyone before you ask them a simple question?

On May 01 2019 09:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Scum has a pretty natural tendency towards appeasement when under pressure. I don't think scum's first reaction to being accused would be to shit on the entire player base of the website and boast about getting night killed in the last game. I feel pretty confident at reading butt-hurt and he reeks of butt-hurt townie to me.

On May 02 2019 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently he actually has a scumread on MZ. That in itself is weird because MZ's opening was at worst null and there was absolutely nothing scummy in it. Second point about that is that the rest of D1 bugs has wasted onto something (aka ll the posts on jock) that could have been said in one sentence - "play or die", if that's what you want to say. He never pursues the MZ lynch further and instead makes a completely useless set of coaching posts - like hf put it - onto a different person. Hell noone even knows why he scumreads MZ and he never even cared to explain that. Does that sound townie? Because to me it doesnt.

On May 03 2019 01:01 wherebugsgo wrote:


huh? it takes time to tell whether MZ is actually going to follow up, or vote, or do anything. I wasn't confident on MZ which is why I didn't push MZ. I wasn't confident on anybody, which is why I proposed no-lynch. Specifically, I wasn't confident we could avoid mislynch.

Also I'm typically not around for the last few hours before deadline because it's 5 a.m. here (currently 1 am) so I can't actually influence lynches effectively last-minute in a low-activity game.

I "coached" Jock, as you put it, because I wasn't confident on the meta read so I wanted to establish my own read by seeing Jock's responses. His responses were awful so I was fine with letting him die and didn't bother putting in any effort to change the lynch.

On May 03 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
Why don't you think mz is mafia?

On May 03 2019 02:49 wherebugsgo wrote:


let’s assume HF and FF are town for the sake of this

If you have two reads POE should give you a third. For me, if HF and FF are not scum, MZ BC Vivax would be my top 3.

If HF is not scum, and he’s also not totally whack this game, I might be wrong about Pandain and his name rises.

The only other players left are like VE and grack. Koshi we can wait on potentially because of the night post.

On May 03 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

I mean, his posting looks objectively different, in the last game he felt compelled to answer questions aimed at him, he split apart posts to respond to them point by point, just a whole level of care that is lacking here.

It's not a great case, but definitely not a bad one if you just look at the game in question. It's even short.

On May 03 2019 03:22 Holyflare wrote:


Dumb they have a rber they just gonna rb you

On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO RAYN I DIDN'T

I will though, because I like you.

On May 02 2019 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things i think wherebugsgo is mafia for:

"Game starter" super useless question that is almost identical to last mafia game, guaranteed to have zero help in finding mafia regardless of what anyone answers. Apparently he actually has a scumread on MZ. That in itself is weird because MZ's opening was at worst null and there was absolutely nothing scummy in it. Second point about that is that the rest of D1 bugs has wasted onto something (aka ll the posts on jock) that could have been said in one sentence - "play or die", if that's what you want to say. He never pursues the MZ lynch further and instead makes a completely useless set of coaching posts - like hf put it - onto a different person. Hell noone even knows why he scumreads MZ and he never even cared to explain that. Does that sound townie? Because to me it doesnt. Furthermore his read on me sounds pure omgus since, let's look at it:

Here is the post in question:

The only thing in this post bugs can agree with is that VE is town, otherwise he is just lying. null reads should be a no factor to him, he probably doesnt think he himself is mafia in case he is town, grack like me calls jock town so none of us three should get towncred from him since he thinks the opposite. Maybe he can agree on Pandain too, yet i dont really think Pandain is town anymore. I think this post on mine should get me any towncredit ever if bugs actually thinks what he has said in the thread, yet somehow magically that happened. It makes no sense.

Rest of his accusation is just fluff and omgus that doesn't really mean anything.

Furthermore i have absolutely no idea why bugs should ever townread Grackaroni here because Grackaroni has called the person he is voting for town and said he thinks he can read Pandain (which in itself doesn't mean anything alignmentwise). There is simply no reason why Grackaroni should not be in bugs' lynch pool.

##vote wherebugsgo

So there is that. I am pretty sure jock is a mislynch and i give it maybe 5% succes rate. So i am just going to hope i am horribly wrong. Vivax might be mafia too, his only post was just a rehash of what everyone else has said in different words.

On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.

On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.

On May 03 2019 04:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


So? Compare the differences. Regardless of whether i was right or wrong (clearly i was wrong). I had a stand on a specific person. IE I made a hard call. This gives someone a starting point to analyze me. Take your pick on what you think that makes me.

Grack has posted a few town reads, and aside from a justification vote on rels never gave reasons for why he thought vivax was scum or why he voted for him.

On May 03 2019 04:42 Pandain wrote:
Also yes I read that rels sucks as day 1 even as town, but honestly I personally don't know that and I never really just "trust" people on what they say about other's people's metas. All I know is Rels played like how he did exactly when he was mafia with me.

On May 03 2019 04:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
He says he's got Meta with MZ, that his style feels like mafia from games past. Does his reticence MAKE him mafia? Not in my opinion, he's stated he doesn't want to "tip off MZ" or whatever, which I HAVE seen from townies.

Will it make him mafia if he continues to give no reasoning past N1? We can definitely have that talk.

On May 03 2019 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Remember end of the world? I am currently not committed enough to an opinion to literally shit a thread up. You and HF will spam hard defend yourself and I have to believe bugs would given my past interactions with him in old games. Currently as I'm not 100% why would I potentially derail a thread to let mafia hide in (in the chance im wrong).

Remember I was mafia in end of world where the shit with HF played to mafia advantage and pushing the right way led to a clusterfuck of a thread. Id like to avoid that.