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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 18:48 GMT
#4477
On March 07 2019 03:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Wiggles and Oats

Seriously everyone stop what you're doing and read all of Oatsmaster's filter. It is snarky comment, followed by asshole question throughout the entire filter EXCEPT for one point, where he very clearly seems to be making conversation with Wiggles for no reason but because they're both online and want to distance:

On March 04 2019 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, Ace. We're being oblique, so I hope I'm not too far off base.

Gonna move that mayor vote.

oops

you wanna expand on this Wiggles? your play interests me so far. What do you think of tube now after scumreading him earlier

On March 04 2019 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, Ace. We're being oblique, so I hope I'm not too far off base.

Gonna move that mayor vote.

oops

you wanna expand on this Wiggles? your play interests me so far. What do you think of tube now after scumreading him earlier

More or less reading that there's information to be gained outside of the policy lynch. That wagon should be dead now anyways.

Still reading scum on Tubesock. Don't think HF saw this earlier when I asked for comment:

On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:

On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?

I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.

On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.

I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.

Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.

If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.


You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.

Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins.



On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.

If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.


I think this is a bad post. It's quite obvious why he questions acros posts because there's no distinction between any of those other players.

What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game?

On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:41 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
[quote]
I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you!

Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace?


That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.

You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor.

Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone.

Reads scummy to me.


When I have a lynch target I’ll let everyone one know. Do you want an opinion from me?

Am I and Conversion your only scumreads? Who do you want for mayor and why?

Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear.

I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too.

I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.


I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator.


I'd like to hear more takes from others as well. Tubesock doesn't seem to get brought up much, so they're sliding by without much attention. They still haven't produced a hard read either.

Do you have an alignment read on ace from that exchanges

On March 04 2019 14:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, Ace. We're being oblique, so I hope I'm not too far off base.

Gonna move that mayor vote.

oops

you wanna expand on this Wiggles? your play interests me so far. What do you think of tube now after scumreading him earlier

More or less reading that there's information to be gained outside of the policy lynch. That wagon should be dead now anyways.

Still reading scum on Tubesock. Don't think HF saw this earlier when I asked for comment:

On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:

On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:
[quote]

Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?

I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.

On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
[quote]

You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.

Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins.



On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.

If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.


I think this is a bad post. It's quite obvious why he questions acros posts because there's no distinction between any of those other players.

What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game?

On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:41 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
[quote]
You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor.

Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone.

Reads scummy to me.


When I have a lynch target I’ll let everyone one know. Do you want an opinion from me?

Am I and Conversion your only scumreads? Who do you want for mayor and why?

Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear.

I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too.

I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.


I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator.


I'd like to hear more takes from others as well. Tubesock doesn't seem to get brought up much, so they're sliding by without much attention. They still haven't produced a hard read either.

Do you have an alignment read on ace from that exchanges

I lean soft town on Ace so far. What I was sensing made sense to me, assuming I got it, and his other posting doesn't strike me as scum play.

Can you speculate the town reason for his proposal of how we should vote mayors in?


On March 04 2019 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, Ace. We're being oblique, so I hope I'm not too far off base.

Gonna move that mayor vote.

oops

you wanna expand on this Wiggles? your play interests me so far. What do you think of tube now after scumreading him earlier

More or less reading that there's information to be gained outside of the policy lynch. That wagon should be dead now anyways.

Still reading scum on Tubesock. Don't think HF saw this earlier when I asked for comment:

On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

I think this is a bad post. It's quite obvious why he questions acros posts because there's no distinction between any of those other players.

What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game?

On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear.

I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too.

I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.


I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator.


I'd like to hear more takes from others as well. Tubesock doesn't seem to get brought up much, so they're sliding by without much attention. They still haven't produced a hard read either.

Do you have an alignment read on ace from that exchanges

I lean soft town on Ace so far. What I was sensing made sense to me, assuming I got it, and his other posting doesn't strike me as scum play.

Can you speculate the town reason for his proposal of how we should vote mayors in?

I suspect it was something of a bait to check reactions. As to what he was looking for exactly, I think he'd need to answer that himself. I get the feeling he was having a laugh too, like some of the other entry posts.

It's the lack of follow through or trying to push it that doesn't push it into scum territory for me. There was the one post about it, some reactions, and it didn't eat up a bunch of thread space with back and forth.

i mean, it gained 0 traction and a ton of backlash, why bother pushing it or following up on it. Unless it was a straight up joke post which i doubt, town Ace wouldve felt some ownership towards the case

On March 04 2019 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?

I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning.

I wanna lynch Acro yeah lol


This is so out of character from the rest of how Oats acts in his filter.

I'm sticking with this 100%
On March 07 2019 02:06 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm reading through Wiggles' filter now.

I have a strong suspicion that if he is scum that I can find the entire mafia team from associations in his filter.


On March 05 2019 05:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
I wanna say wriggles is town because everyone is literally ignoring him but he’s still trying his best


On March 06 2019 01:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Looking at Mr wriggles filter, he’s about as bland as a bowl of porridge. He doesn’t put himself out there, doesn’t really seem interested in finding scum and is kinda cruising doing whatever, take some real fencesitting reads. mafia


It also took me longer to find relevant quotes that I knew I read before I realized that my search is off because he calls him Wriggles.

Out of character being I make some posts and generally ask some soft questions, how does that make me scum?

Secondly, why bother having such an inconsistent read on my scumbuddy when I can obviously make it happen much better if I was trying to because he’s under literally no pressure

Anyone can say that for any read:
If I was mafia my read would look a lot better.

What I should have asked at the bottom of that is why you liked Wiggles when nobody was paying attention to him and said that he was trying his best and then when people start scum reading him you start shitting on his filter.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 18:53 GMT
#4481
FOR PALMARGAAAAAAARD
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:07 GMT
#4484
On March 07 2019 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Wiggles and Oats

Seriously everyone stop what you're doing and read all of Oatsmaster's filter. It is snarky comment, followed by asshole question throughout the entire filter ...[...]

Istopped reading here because you just said why Oats is town and has been because of that every game he has been town in.

You stopped at the worst possible time!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:12 GMT
#4486
You should take less convincing honestly because you already have a scum read on Wiggles and you can read distancing conversation pretty easily.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:19 GMT
#4493
On March 07 2019 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
I don't actually agree with your perception Grack, but I do find it a bit towny that you seem so excited about it lol ><

The one other thing I'd say is that I'm pretty sure the day 1 votes on Oats are all town

HF/Rsoultin/trfes/slam/Acro/Jockmcplolp

The only one I really think might be scum is slam and I have no read on him whatsoever.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:19 GMT
#4494
On March 07 2019 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 04:12 Grackaroni wrote:
You should take less convincing honestly because you already have a scum read on Wiggles and you can read distancing conversation pretty easily.

I lied i actually read the sentences after. But there is no world where i lynch oats before acro/bh/wiggles. After that, in case wiggles is actually mafia, we can discuss this, i give you that.

I'm fine with that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:30 GMT
#4506
On March 07 2019 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni can you prove my case on Acrofales is somehow not legit?

I'll read through Acro's filter and then respond but my first impression is that it's just a day 1 case of Acro scum reading lots of lurkers that got extended into day 2 out of intertia and it makes me suspect you for pushing it so strongly.

I generally agree with Koshi's point of view on the first point here:

On March 04 2019 22:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Acrofoles is not mafia because he said that he doesnt agree with the post but liked it a lot. This is a clear contradiction that most likely a townoe would make. Mafia would not like it and attack it.

I also like the part he attacks a lot of people with minimal commitment. Looks like town calling how he sees it, while mafia wants to make friends and not attack people.

Also Acrofoles has 4 pages of filter. So why kill him d1 lol. Kill scrubs.

I read 1 post of Acrofoles and decided he is most likely town and if he isnt should be left alive anyway.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:45 GMT
#4520
I got distracted but I will get back to Acro

On March 05 2019 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day One final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles , Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel , Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet , Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

Not Voting (0):

Holyflare is the Mayor and Trfel is lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

I'm quite liking how my scum team is looking at the moment.

The BH vote count doesn't surprise me. Like I said earlier mafia weren't going to shy away from bussing him based on how he was playing. If Sentinel is mafia then the mayor election was the election that actually mattered.

The only person I've seen who is even close to having the same mafia team as me is Vivax, so I guess I'll have to count on him if town is going to do well today.

I'd take Tumble/TS/SL as less sure potential mafia to add on to that. That list should probably have close to all of the mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 19:48 GMT
#4521
This shit is good.

If only town hadn't imploded because of that huge scrub HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 20:01 GMT
#4532
HF bby you know we love you.

Don't post PM.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 20:20 GMT
#4553
On March 04 2019 16:59 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 04 2019 16:43 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:41 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?


Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.


HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory.

It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town.

And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.

I mostly agree with you.

Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one...


Thoughts on Palmar then?

I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF.


Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die?

If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be?

Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead.


So HF wants you dead, but you're sure HF is town? If you are Town, isn't him wanting you dead a sign he might not be town? Explain why you think he's town if you're also town.

I'm not sure he's town, but town being wrong doesn't make me suddenly think they're scum. It makes me think they're wrong. Other than that his posting has mostly been of someone trying to get information flowing and he seems interested in pulling threads and seeing where they lead. I like that.

But I'd vote HF over some others, who I have a stronger townreads on than HF, as I don't trust their judgement. I'd rather not put them in a place where they kill a townie and then we spend all of D2 arguing over whether it was a mistake or malice. I'd much rather do that with someone like HF, or especially Palmar, as I trust their ability to kill scum D1 a lot more than my stronger town reads.

And that's why I'm still voting Palmar for mayor because even if I'm not confident he's town: if he is, I trust his judgement. I trust it a lot more than HF's, whose judgement is suspect given he's currently voting to lynch a townie. That said, even with HF being temporarily (I hope) wrong, I still think his judgement is better than that of my strongest town reads.

Names of other ppl purposefully omitted, as there doesn't seem to be any reason to start giving scum strong town reads right now. They can figure that out on their own.

hmmmm

Oats was right about one thing. We need to get some Grackaroni mayor campaigns going in the next game. If there's one thing Grackaroni needs it's more attention.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4566
On March 07 2019 05:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can I modkill myself in solidarity?

Maybe this is the proper way to end the last game of TL mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 20:41 GMT
#4585
On March 04 2019 22:46 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote:
I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why.

Two reasons:

I don't think a scumversion would be bold enough to come into the thread and be the second guy to claim mafia. But I don't really know him and I did find it a shitty entrance to the thread. But useless townies being bad is not scum. It just seems too brazen for scum. I don't know conversion and maybe he does play this kind of game as scum where he drops in and claims scum, but it seems like he is drawing attention for no reason except to be an idiot. Which is, unfortunately, far more likely for town.

Being excessively lazy just seems to be his thing:
On March 03 2019 23:52 Conversion wrote:
someone xplain to me where mayors get a vig lynch basically? can’t find the info

Regardless of town or scum, this is just being lazy. It is 2 clicks to open the OP and click on "Day 1" (okay, 3, because it's spoilered), where you can read all about the mayor election. Instead, he wants someone else to do it for him. That makes the post you tripped over far less telling. He's just being lazy, again.


He is completely useless and might be scum. But I don't think he's a good lynch today.


I will give credit here for this post. This rebuttal influenced me away from following Palmar's Conversion case, which I thought was pretty good before reading the Acro post.

If I recall correctly around this time he is probably still under threat of being lynched and is pushing back against what appeared to be the most likely counterwagon to himself.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 20:43 GMT
#4591
On March 07 2019 05:35 sicklucker wrote:
if we were gonna yolo lynch I think rels is the guy. he starts getting active as mafia starts winning. very nice. also thinks im scum for some reason which seems forced (omgus)

He still seems to be doing nothing to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 21:01 GMT
#4602
I've read through the Acro end of day posts now.

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During the EoD he wasn't actively trying to do stuff, all he did was yelling and causing chaos. The most notable thing is he perfectly knew both Palmar's and Holyflare's mayor lynch choices don't align with his reads yet never ever during the whole time the debate was on tries he convince either of them to agree on a different lynch. Especially Palmar when they both share a scumread on Mocsta. There is simply no reason why a townie shouldn't care about this.

He tried to convince HF not to lynch Palmar and he tried to get people to elect Koshi so that Koshi would kill Blazinghand. I don't see anything scummy in his end of day interactions.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 21:10 GMT
#4612
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He scumread iamperfection for too long, he should know wayyyyy better regardless of the fact iamp made a case (that everyone should read) on him.


As far as I can tell this is inaccurate. He makes a long post about Iamp but his conclusion wasn't actually that Iamp was scum. I think Vivax was the one who was super red on Iamp.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 06 2019 21:24 GMT
#4619
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After D1 Acrofales hasn't done a single productive thing. He has given himself a narrative in calling Holyflare mafia, hiding behind it, and doing nothing else. Even if he genuinely thinks Holyflare is mafia for doing a bad / stupid thing (which isn't even a good reason to scumread someone) it's simply pure mafia play to excuse yourself for not doing anything other than calling him mafia and everyone stupid and bad.


i wish there was less HF discussion but Acro clearly does some of his own scumhunting after day 1 here. He isn't hiding:

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On March 06 2019 00:29 Acrofales wrote:
Ugggghhhh. Please tell me I am wrong, but rsoultin looks really really scummy in how she talks about Palmar.

In the beginning, she just seems upset that Palmar, a big name, is stealing the limelight and that people (me) are happy to sheep him. I can see that happening from a town point of view. But there's some stuff that doesn't scan with that:
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On March 04 2019 16:29 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Strangely ironic that when I first read your post I bristled at being told I had a chipmunk memory, but if reading comprehension doesn't fail me (and maybe evidently, it does?) you were talking about yourself?

lol

Fair point I guess but the larger point still stands---if you are calling me scum, you're doing it based on nothing other than how 'blah' I'm being? And I still don't buy you not being great at reading me. Historically, you have been barring I think our first couple games together.


-shrugs- Maybe I was I really don't recall lol I don't even remember if you were the one Palmar kept trying to convince me was scum in the Noir game Artanis threw a fit in where I needed to be hit between the eyes with it before I just sheepled a Palmar days later.

Actually yeah I'm pretty sure that's you.

But regardless, I don't think it matters. You can believe or not that I don't remember how to read you no skin off my back. The purpose of my post was 1) objectively don't like the sniping without really saying anything and 2) getting others' opinions on it because I think you're not much of a poster anyway. (Again with the caveat that I don't really remember.)

Anyway! If you want to talk about something else we can cause this is getting circular and I read people better when they're not talking about me.

Now I was nowhere near that game and have no idea what happened, but clearly rsoultin is okay with people sheeping Palmar, because she does it herself as town. Still, don't know the game, so different circumstances, etc. etc. but this whole thing about being upset people are sheeping Palmar makes far more sense from a scum player than a town player:

Town rsoultin: upset because she doesn't know Palmar is town and is worried dumb townies are sheepling a scum Palmar. Next step should be: figure out Palmar's allegiance.

Scum rsoultin: upset because townies are sheeplong a town Palmar, who is always going to be one of the major threats to scum in the game.

So. Lets see, where does rsoultin go with her investigation into Palmar. I tell you, it's nowhere. She doesn't try to engage with Palmar. She doesn't analyse Palmar's posts. Nada. She just throws shade:

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On March 03 2019 18:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 18:27 Holyflare wrote:
When did I ever make a case on rayn wtf?


You didn't that I recall.

Though I like his Palmar read.

Rayn at the time had a pretty weak scumread on Palmar based on (1) Palmar thinking I was looking townie, and (2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent. There really wasn't much there, but this is literally the only justification for rsoultin going after Palmar, because the next appearance we see is her waffling onto Palmar as an "experiment":

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On March 03 2019 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 18:32 Tubesock wrote:
Anyone want to vote Palmar? Doesn’t that sound super fun? rayne, Chez? HF?


Not the worst idea. Actually, new experiment \o/

On March 03 2019 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Palmar


I have no idea what the experiment did, except set her up for vote analysis for "going after Palmar early" or some such nonsense. She herself just kinda waffled on it too:
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On March 04 2019 05:15 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 04:59 Rels wrote:
rsoul can you detail your "experiment" if it's done ?


Which one? The first was seeing if Rayn would get annoyed and come after me for ignoring his question. Which he both did and didn't so that was a wash. Though he did actively ignore me when I was trying to get clarification on his Iam read changing, which makes me want to lynch him and pretend that's more about scumreading him than ego. He's definitely still a scum lean, though.

The second was seeing what happened with a Palmar vote when so many were kinda scumreading him but that one I just kinda abandoned cause impatient rsoul is impatient. And HF's comment on LS was right and that's actually a good way to read LS, but LS is probably just town for getting all out of whack with no real pressure on him lol ><

Damdred is probably just scum though so that's nice ^^ It's not as strong a read as my tonal read that I think he's incapable of replicated as mafia but he's not playing this game right.


But she isn't done, she'll continue throwing jabs his way, based on... what? Still nothing insofar as I can tell from her filter. That comes quite a bit later, when she finally gets around to explaining why Palmar is scum. I'll just post it verbatim, because it's utter bullshit:
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On March 04 2019 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 04 2019 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
i think its obvious that im town as well so just vote me for mayor. i don't think i've ever made a case as mafia.

Ill use the ability as another lynch during the night phase where we have to do votes and shit.
and lynch whoever we vote " although i would probably do what i want and just use it as a vig shot because im a dictator.


Is that how the mayor thing works? Then we really shouldn't be voting for Palmar.

On March 04 2019 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 04 2019 06:49 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:39 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:19 rsoultin wrote:
Eew.

Acro: "Palmar wanting to lynch sent is more likely to find scum than HF who wants to lynch Oats who I want to lynch."

rofl ><

Given that I want to lynch Oats, I don't want to vote HF to mayor kill him. It defeats the purpose.


Sure, but in your world one of those two players has found scum. Yet you think the one who hasn't is the more likely to?

It's Palmar.


Palmar's likely mafia tho, so there's that. Would make you right. He probably can find scum xP

Pft. It's annoying that this sort of thing town can think cause people on this site are so good ol' boys club.

On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote:
@sen,

I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone.

So here we go,

The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid.

However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum.

He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y.

There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on.

I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing.

However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case.


This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying.


Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise


Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying


Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary.


I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^

But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol ><

On March 05 2019 06:29 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor.


If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar?


I'd be happy to lynch Palmar if anyone wanted to lynch Palmar. I'm also happy to lynch Truffle and Tube. And Rayn if it comes to it. Also LS, but my bad rsoul doubting brain is less confident about him.



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On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:
On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:
To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game.

Kill the policy lynch, continue playing.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.


On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play.




@Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent?

Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch.

I think Palmar is scum.


I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum.

Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door.

-cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target?


Her earlier light suspicion of people following Palmar has turned into thinking Palmar is scum because people are sheeping him. This is bonkers. It doesn't make sense. Nobody can think this is a real reason for scumreading someone. Someone is scum because they do scummy things, not because they just happen to be there and other people do scummy things (sheeping them). This reeks of a scummer panicking that town Palmar is gaining traction. It isn't how a townie thinks.

But now that we have established that Palmar is a priori scum, and rsoultin doesn't have to doubt herself, it all makes sense:
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On March 04 2019 16:45 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:39 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:
On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:
To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game.

Kill the policy lynch, continue playing.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.


On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play.




@Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent?

Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch.

I think Palmar is scum.


I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum.

Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door.

-cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target?


So then following this, if Palmar is scum:

What does his pushing on Sent say? Is it a random policy lynch or is there more to it?

What does his town read on acro mean?


Don't know and don't care? Palmar is capable of pushing or reading people any which way if he's scum, so why is this a thing for you?

Independently I think sent seems okay, certainly enough to warrant not lynching him d1. And acro is someone I need to look at again cause I've seen things I both like and don't like. I don't feel strongly enough on him to not lynch him though so there's that.

Palmar is scum because Palmar is making reads and pushing people.


Now regardless of whether rsoultin is a good player or a clueless scrub, she has been around the forum, and has admitted herself to sheeping Palmar as town. Does this filter read like someone who is trying to figure out whether Palmar is mafia? Or someone pushing an agenda. I can really only get the latter from it.

rsoultin congrats on leaving the maybe pile. You scummy little creature, you.



also I missed this originally but this is a very good catch by Vivax/Acro:

On March 06 2019 03:31 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 06 2019 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:07 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2019 02:48 Vivax wrote:
I'd still lean Oats (???) because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.


Like this post is why Sentinel is confirmed scum.

When you're town, you read something that catches your attention, form the opinion, then go write about it to justify your opinion.

Here you have Sentinel forgetting to fill in the blank cause first he wrote up some bsbsbsbs, then he tried to decide what would be the best way to read Oats for that. Basically mafia with his pants down.


I think that's a bit of a stretch lol. Can quite easily forget a word or two when writing a giant wall of text.


I mean if you think this ONE missing word confirms him mafia then why the fuck don't you think Mocsta who was caught lying about his entire read on Acro isn't mafia? :D

No. He actually has a point. It isn't in the big post where he "forgot the word". He literally posted Oats as a scumread and then used the same justification to post Oats as a not-a-scumread.

This is backed up a bit later when Oats has disappeared off his scum list completely:
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On March 05 2019 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit

Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't.

Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote.

I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O

No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are.

Lol. Hi pot.

Here are my scumreads rn

LS
Damdred
Tictock
Trfel

I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful



(People should listen to my scum reads. They are very good.)

Anyway this case is completely bullshit and I stand by my original conclusion:

On March 07 2019 04:30 Grackaroni wrote:
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On March 07 2019 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni can you prove my case on Acrofales is somehow not legit?

I'll read through Acro's filter and then respond but my first impression is that it's just a day 1 case of Acro scum reading lots of lurkers that got extended into day 2 out of intertia and it makes me suspect you for pushing it so strongly.

I generally agree with Koshi's point of view on the first point here:

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On March 04 2019 22:21 Koshi wrote:
On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

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On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

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On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Acrofoles is not mafia because he said that he doesnt agree with the post but liked it a lot. This is a clear contradiction that most likely a townoe would make. Mafia would not like it and attack it.

I also like the part he attacks a lot of people with minimal commitment. Looks like town calling how he sees it, while mafia wants to make friends and not attack people.

Also Acrofoles has 4 pages of filter. So why kill him d1 lol. Kill scrubs.

I read 1 post of Acrofoles and decided he is most likely town and if he isnt should be left alive anyway.


Big scum points to Rayn for pushing it today. The only thing in there that's valid came from day 1 when Acro got a lot of votes for attacking lots of lurkers.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 07 2019 02:12 GMT
#4714
On March 07 2019 11:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 07 2019 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sentinel i think is town. When i was mafia wiith him (the infamous Noir game where you fakeclaimed medic twice) he had serious issues putting together even ANY single post. I basically played the game for him. I can see why people think he is scummy even after he read his role but i think even that is out of his mafia posting range.

My ass you did

To be fair it seems like he did:

On October 05 2013 19:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
gg

Big thanks to rayn, I feel like he's the reason I lived as long as I did the first three days


Investigating QT now. (I've read this one before, I definitely recognize this quote:

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2013
10:58 PM ET (US)
nah im trash scum and i will bus all of you in the most obvious manner
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 07 2019 02:21 GMT
#4725
I don't see it really. He doesn't seem entirely incapable of writing a post in that game and seems to be enjoying himself in the scum QT from that game:

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https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/xE7HcF4bKpC
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 07 2019 02:36 GMT
#4736
Rels can you read the last couple pages of my filter and see what you think about my idea for what is happening in the game atm.
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