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On March 04 2019 10:33 iamperfection wrote:why the fuck would you want a plan from bh who is clearly not playing the game
Because he said there would be one.
You remember me well?
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On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:Acrofails is mafia. I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum. He is also making reads but they aren't really reads. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic? 100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor. Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game. I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all. HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch. #540Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it. I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post. 1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material. 2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive. 3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications. Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too. Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read. He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.
Summary of the night:
##mayor Palmar zzz this is why the sent push is pointless Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders. And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town. 36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy. And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit? Though props for not being that guy at least. People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO. Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information. Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above. Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1. This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is. not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for. I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.
It’s day one though. Is any of us really pushing anything particularly hard? If so, is it wise?
I think stuff like what (I think it was LS?) was doing is more scummy day one. Heck even BH
Hence I ask of him but now I see it as worthwhile to ruin that if you can stop my hole poking.
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On March 04 2019 10:39 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 10:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Hi Iamp. I’ve failed to see thee this game, been flossing over your stuff I admit.
Sorry m8. We’re both on rn so I’ll go read your shit if you have failed to see me your not reading
That was my point, I meant GLOSSING damn autocorrect did it again anyway, yeah I wasn’t reading you with any more attention than I could divide with dental string
So yeah I wasn’t reading. Hence the apology.
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On March 04 2019 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Standouts from Meapak's spreadsheet:
Meapak/me/Mr. Wiggles are the only ones purely being scum read. Feelsbadman.
Holyflare has a sea of town reads with Rayn as the only person reading him as mafia in the middle.
Ticktocks' reads are very strange. Town read on Sicklucker as honest and engaged, the only town read on Damdred who is very widely scum read.
Ah.
Maybe something bad from tick tick or just honestly odd though?
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On March 04 2019 11:15 Blazinghand wrote:
TBH I think it would be reasonable to spend the lynch or the free mayor lynch on me today. I don't mind being knocked out early, and it would give other players a chance to play longer and have more fun. Same with eating a vigi bullet if needed
Nay
Curse this Blazinghand with longevity
We shall win this together
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On March 04 2019 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious.
Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy.
You know? I think I also do this.
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Maybe wave not still here so I’mma sleep
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Well sheeeeeeeit you are here
Sup wave
You’re town. Therefore I am town.
Let’s townchaf
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On March 04 2019 15:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol
So long as you keep the hijoles to a minimum I'd say
Well
I can say сукна instead.
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On March 04 2019 23:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 23:44 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 23:41 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2019 23:28 Vivax wrote:
If you're town here's what you're going to do:
You accept your swift merciful death and thank us for relieving you from your duties in a busy week irl.
You try to find oddities in the peeps pushing for your lynch and/or summarize for us why MZ should be the next lynch, cause that seems to be your only scumread atm.
I'll honor your contributions, take them into consideration and if found worthy carry on your will throughout the game. Very town. I also always say these things when I am town and convinced. Cool stuff. Koshi how do you feel about rolling town? Very good thank you for asking. Being mafia is always a burden on my life. I eat, sleep and live less happy when I am still alive in a game as mafia. But now I am happy and I can do my thing. Life is good. Side story. I had soccer yesterday and I went to the MacDo drive in after with gf and asked for a cheeseburger, paid the 1.5 euro for the cheeseburger, but instead got a double cheeseburger. And I told my gf that this was the sign of a good week. And today I rolled town. Coincidence? I think not.
This is not a Belgian
This is an American
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On March 05 2019 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like in HF's head:
'behold! I am scum leader palmar and I want all you lesser scums all to vote for me so I can waste the mayor lunch! Bwahahaha!'
Wave/mocsta/ls/chezinu/mz- 'yes sir'
So there was this mafia game where Kush and I bussed each other all game and it worked like magic
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On March 05 2019 00:49 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like in HF's head:
'behold! I am scum leader palmar and I want all you lesser scums all to vote for me so I can waste the mayor lunch! Bwahahaha!'
Wave/mocsta/ls/chezinu/mz- 'yes sir' So there was this mafia game where Kush and I bussed each other all game and it worked like magic
So stupid strat =/= nonviable strat as scum
I think Palmar is aware of this
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On March 05 2019 00:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
2 people. Not 5.
And that's not even the entirety of HF's list I mentioned.
Seriously Hf this time I have a really hard time believing what you're writing about palmar.
We bus each other so much
We win neither ever suspected
We do blatant shit and get away with it
Such is TL mafia
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On March 05 2019 00:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Does ls needlessly martyr as scum? Usually a townie thing to do
Could be. That could be exactly why he does it, with a veteran at the helm of the team
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On March 05 2019 01:03 Vivax wrote:
7th mafia is BC btw.
Ah, I haven’t been seeing you Vivax what is this about? We find 6 members on D1 over here?![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/VrDqVLU.jpg)
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On March 05 2019 01:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 00:57 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote:
I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that.
I made this argument first btw. On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote:
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Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here:
a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town.I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. The whole bunch seem to think the complete opposite lol Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote:On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote:On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote:
@sen,
I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone.
So here we go,
The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid.
However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum.
He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y.
There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on.
I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing.
However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying. Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary. I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^ But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol >< On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote:
@sen,
I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone.
So here we go,
The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid.
However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum.
He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y.
There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on.
I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing.
However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. They quite literally think the opposite. Prepare to die Palmar. By the way: Holyflare knows me mistaking earlier positions of rsoultin and Damdred from here: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:57 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Not sure if this makes you town or just stating the obvious lol and not realizing they had changed their view, is actually not scummy at all. It simply means I haven't read or followed every post in the thread. I'm just as likely to make that mistake as town and scum, and again, HF is perfectly aware of this. I'm like 90% sure he's just posturing, but in case he is not, if something like this is what he justifies lynching me on, that's only mafia HF play.
Fair cop
Let’s lynch oats and rayn
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Idea: Let’s lynch oats and Rayn? Any good reason not to?
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If I miraculously become mayor
I will lynch into pats or Rayn
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On March 05 2019 01:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:09 Tumblewood wrote:On March 05 2019 01:03 Tumblewood wrote:On March 05 2019 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like in HF's head:
'behold! I am scum leader palmar and I want all you lesser scums all to vote for me so I can waste the mayor lunch! Bwahahaha!'
Wave/mocsta/ls/chezinu/mz- 'yes sir' i did mean you were scum when i said you made an awful bad post earlier. however i love this post and some others today have been good so i no longer think scum actually i take this back. it made me laugh but why would mafia ever ever want to install a town!palmar as a mayor? this does not help wave’s logic, but i suppose mafia do not want town!HF as mayor either, and his wagon is IMO scummier than palmar’s. but forget those two, iamp’s wagon is all town except maybe damdy or rayn. Who on it is scummier than Palmar's? Imo it's incredibly clean.
Why thank you
I guess I look good
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On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum.
Then Rayn. I provide two
Want them both flipped
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